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>30mm grenade launcher
>mag fed
Holy God-Emperor of Mankind, I fuck kneel.
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FN, like Bereatta, still knows how to make their firearms visually appealing and has actual humans with souls working on Visual design of a firearm. Good to know.
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>>64338731
We bolter CQB now
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>>64338800
That might be true, but holy shit FN needs to make better choices about color. Having 4-6 different shades of brown with non-uniform texture is retarded, and they seem to choose whether a part will be black or FDE completely at random with no recognizable pattern. Give us ranger green or OD or something for once
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>>64338864
It's their trademark cmon.
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>>64338731
>PGS competition loser
Who cares? There's a winner out there.
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>what if we made AR, but BIG?
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>>64338872
> Who cares? There's a winner out there.

There's no winner, PGS hasn't been competed. What you're probably thinking about is that Barret was the winner of the XTech Solider Lethality Competition, but that was just a technology acceleration program and not a program of record.

PGS is still on and FN just won a similar PPON program to develop their entry for PGS, hence the announcement and press releases.

https://fnamerica.com/press-releases/fn-wins-u-s-army-development-contract-for-the-precision-grenadier-system/
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>>64338864
Aw, need your safequeen to have matching colors for more upvotes?
Anyone who gets to use one of these doesn't give a fuck and will likely rattlecan some camo pattern over it.
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>>64338920
>What you're probably thinking about is that Barret was the winner of the XTech Solider Lethality Competition, but that was just a technology acceleration program and not a program of record.

a ton of people reported this as being the winner of PGS so I gues the confusion but it's not correct, competition is still on
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>picture of any AR or AK pistol
>IS THAT A HECKIN BOLTER?
>any picture of a Saiga 12g with the stock folded
>IS THAT A HECKIN BOLTER?
>any picture of a mag-fed grenade launcher
>IS THAT A HECKIN MOTHER TRUCKIN BOLTERINO?
40k trannies are so tiresome.
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what does it do that the M-32 dont?
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>>64338731
>Fat Nigga PP
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>>64338731
I honestly like this thing just because it looks better. MARS probably wins in recoil mitigation, but FN would be better at integrating optics and stuff like that.
Also, between this, the Evolys, and the IWTSD IWS, FN is killing it aesthetically. The guns are not only pretty, they're incredibly fashionable. They follow all the newest trends very tastefully. Same goes for Beretta. >>64338800 I like the NARP but they don't seem to have as many new military releases.
>>64338920
I had no idea, and I thought I followed the PGS program decently well.
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>>64339002
It's a shame the US hates bullpups so much, their weight balance advantage would actually matter here. With the hallway sized barrel, comically large magazines with 30mm rounds, and big muzzle device on the FN, these things will be impossible to shoot offhand.
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>>64338731
Im retarded and know nothing of grenades but im guessing this is meant to directly shoot grenades at people vs lobbing grenades at people like the M320 does? Any other capabilities that im glossing over?
>>64338981
I like their sexy blue alien chicks.
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>>64338800
>like Bereatta

explain the APX A1.
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>>64339163
Rheinmetall's SSW40 really looks like the most advanced and featured one, to me, and it even can use existing 40x46 mm UV ammunition unlike the others that have new cartridges.

>>64339181
Pretty much, medium velocity 30-40mm shells with much flatter trajectories.
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>>64339181
It's essentially just a further refinement of the XM25 concept
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>>64339190
*LV ammunition
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>>64338864
>4-6 different shades of brown
Matches the tan SCAR in 4-6 different shadeds. Trending mismatched color schemes.... begin!
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>>64338981
It's the favorite franchise of ziggers since it's represents living in ziggerstan so well
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>>64339190
40mm is an old cartridge. The hi-lo system was smart at the time, but the shape of the round and the fuze volume leaves a lot to be desired. An aerodynamic 30mm with a modern MEMS or electronic fuze could probably carry the same warhead weight.
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>>64338731
I'll show you to make a p-pon me
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>>64338731
What's with the fat magwell? Does it really shake the thing firing enough that it needs to be as long as the magazine? Seems like cutting it down to be in line with the release buttons would allow you to cram a hilariously oversized drum mag on it.
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>>64339263
>hilariously oversized drum mag on it.

if you need a 30rd grenade launcher magainze you probably will just use a mk19
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>>64339234
Not really, the Imperium is hilariously corrupt and shit but ultimately still competent, at least in things like the Military.
As stated by Lord General Freddie Mercury,
>I will spend my soldiers lives, but not waste them frivolously.
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>>64339263
It's probably to act as a makeshift forward grip since the recoil on this thing is likely significant
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>>64339263
With 30mm you can fit at least 5 rounds in the mag. Drums are awkward to store: in a firefight you can drop them, but then they're gone, and at ranges dropping them constantly probably doesn't help reliability.
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>>64339263
The thing with grenade launchers is that you'll have half a dozen different kinds of grenades and you'll probably want to swap between them before each magazine is empty. Having a bunch of color coded 5-10 round mags makes more sense than having a huge magazine you can't stow easily.
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>>64339450
Makes me think something like
>Open Bolt grenade launcher, doesn't strip a "bullet" from the mag until you fire
>This way you can swap mags and grenade types without needing to clear the chamber
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>>64338731
When are we getting a pistol version for the civilian market?
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>>64339486
SSW40 has a tip barrel for this sort of thing and also for any sort of shell that's too long for the mag. It uses standard 40x46 shells too so everything's compatible. It really seems like the best solution.
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>>64339512
Memes aside the wrist obliterator 9000 from the first Killzone or the grenade pistol from Helldivers always struck me as an interesting design if you could get the recoil to a usable level, a sidearm sized grenade launcher that lobs full power 40mm grenades would be neat but I wonder if it'd even be accurate enough for use if aimed without a stock. I suppose you could always load them with low pressure smoke grenades/flares/etc
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>>64339605
Give it a WWI magazine cutoff and yeah that seems like the best of both worlds.
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>>64339163
absolute sexo
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>>64339613
Wouldn't that just be an M320 with the stock collapsed?
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>>64339238
>same warhead weight.
you would hope.
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>>64338731
Why not 40mm?
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>>64339613
turn the pistol into a full auto fungun and you've got the perfect pdw for remfs. suprised that cokehead at b&t didn't think of it. or kellgren for that matter.
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>>64338731
Me and a friend just talked about this very thing, he mentioned an idea and then sent this

>Pic rel.

Basically, the idea is to remake the china-lake, but base the design on the RMB-93.
(A shotgun without a bolt that kinda works like a mag fed slam fire shotgun, but with a trigger)

To reload it, you push the barrel forward.

As i understand, it will be lighter than "on par" designs due to most of the components being carbon alu and polymer.

As for range he said that something i use on my gun would be the best solution.. so you have a button in front of trigger that just Provide range readings and then alter scope height with fast zooming system scope switch that's fashioned to alter elevation instead of lense on scope.

Again, its not my idea, this is just a screenshot of the pic provided.
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>>64339795
Gotta give it to him, its a really neat idea.. think he pictured it to be 40mm but it would look so much sleeker as a 30mm.
Pic also rel, i like the way his tism strikes at times
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>>64339613
For me it’s the BSG Five seveN with underslung mini grenade launcher.
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>>64339613
It's called a pirate pistol.
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>>64338731
hmm
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>>64339190
Rheinmetall's is full eurojank.
Like the absolutely tiny mounting area for an optic. Or the giant magazine guide rail that makes the thing 2 feet tall even if you're using stubbies.
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>>64339486
This is honestly probably the smartest idea.
Could even do some kind of advanced primer ignition to cut down on the felt recoil.
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>>64340060
Instead of a "gyrojet" what about a "gyro-splosion"?
>Grenade launches with low pressure charge
>Grenade is shaped like a mine ball, at X distance, (basically "how far away until it's not going to remove your eyebrows and perhaps skin"), detonates a second charge that accelerates it to full speed (and I guess arms the grenade)
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>>64339795
That has the same problem as the Halo Carbine, in that the magazine will blow your face off if you eject it while scoped in.
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>>64338731
Old news, China has this for ages
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>>64338920
>>64338731
>PPON

always
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>>64340089
Implessive!
But I thought the chink blaster was 40mm?

Also the chink blaster is allegedly a "grenade sniper", isn't this more like a traditional grenade launcher in role?
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>>64340076
Accuracy issues like all other projectiles that do the same
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>>64340113
What about spinning? That's a neat trick.
Or perhaps fins

Of course at this point it's just a worse RPG.
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>>64338731
>Modern Warfare 7
>RODRIGUEZ!
>WERE TAKING FIRE!
>PPON THAT MACHINEGUN NEST! NOW!!
lmao
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>>64340081
No, go look up the shotgun it's based on.. in this case the cheek rest would be a spring loaded flap that you just pushed a button to open for loading.. the shotgun is downward ejecting, this would do the same thing.

I rly like this idea, its a neat design to upscale for this purpose, the biggest thing would be: no extra mags, (carbon tube instead) no bolt or gass ports.

It removes weight, and that's a huge factor.. and with the recoil, shooting rapid fire is counter productive, besides, ur gonna need a buddy just to carry the mags in that case.

Ergo, bud is correct in his autistic way of thinking.
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>>64340089
China's is more like this on steroids.
It is a very different gun conceptually. Far higher velocity and range, at the cost of size and recoil.
This is meant to be an upgrade to the current Milkor, without going all out.
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>>64340089
>>64340171
The Chinese version has the scope mounted on a spring so it doesn't kill the guy shooting it when it smashes him in the face with every shot.
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>>64339968
great picture of some plastic cases my dude. love the concrete floor as well.
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>>64339605
does it have to be so goddamn ugly though



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