Why shouldn't I buy a turkish 1911? These seem like an absurdly good value.
turkey is a bird, anon.why would they have 1911s?
>>64339861It's an American bird anon. That's two reasons it'd have a brain small enough to think a 1911 is a good idea.
>>64339846They ARE an absurdly good value. The only reason they’re not $800 is because the Lira is in the fucking toilet. They want your sweet greenbacks.
No they are in fact excellentThey even come with two checkmate mags which are like $40-$50 aloneI regret not buying another one at $290 tax free but they're still only like $320 now. I'd buy 10 more if I could. RIA sucks by comparison.
>>64339846Buying cheap guns is like gambling. It might be a good deal, or it might lead you to having to send it back 2-4 times just so they can get it running. That being said, Tisas does seem to have a better track record than many other gun companies in their country.
Had one, excellent 1911 but it also made me realize I don't like 1911s. Slide/hammer bite and quite a bit of recoil. Low capacity too.
>>64340193How much does it recoil compared to a Glock 17? I've heard .45 is less snappy than 9mm but that kinda sounds like fudd shit.
>>64339846You're a idiot. You really wanna risk your life on a cheap cast turkshit pistol ? Buy a American made 1911. Then you got a pistol you can depend on.
>>64340486I'm not gonna say it's substantial because it's not, but it is more than your typical G17/G19. It's also an oddly smooth recoil. I don't know how helpful this description is.In a vague sense it's a bit like going from a G19 to a G26, or like a 9mm to a 40 s&w. It's especially noticeable if you're not confident shooting pistols.
>>64339846Im not into 1911s but i have a cheap Regent brand fron turkey, i think its good for the money
>>64340545>cast turkshitthey're forged
>>64340545Have you seen some of the newer colts? They're really pretty bad looking for the money. That only leaves like 3 or 4 brands, and Tisas is the only one that makes a quality GI style. Springfield can't do 90 degree slide serrations for some reason, it's too bad as I like the 3 dot staked sights.RIA rattles and feels like an 80 year old used pistol... they're ok but worse (who buys these in 2025???)Everything else is either cast garbage or deviates too far from the original 1911 design. Tisas is killing it rn
Depends on how you fight and how you live. 95% of people will never find out how great or junk any weapon they buy actually is. Few run their weapon with a mind to find where both their limits or the weapons limits are and why. Fewer still ever use their weapon in life or death stakes. And exponentially fewer still ever have multiple events of fatal encounters against other men trying to kill them.. So here's the best answer: Find a sidearm that will hold together at a comfortable price, those Turkish 1911's are definitely checking those boxes. Then find out how far you want to go. Buy 500 ball rounds. Burn that ammo up at a comfortable shooting range or buddies property. See what you think, ask yourself "Is this something I want to do regularly?" Practice getting further out, tighter groups. Find a range that let's you rip. Rural property is really the best way. Start doing balance of speed to accuracy drills. Shooting only as fast as you can maintain grouping sizes that shrink over time. If after 2,000 rounds you are still enjoying yourself, and enjoying that weapon, consider real training with a reputable tactical training course. Of course you're doing all of this after carefully studying and adhering to basic firearms safety. Some folks grew up with guns and always suck, others saw their first firearm in their 20's and became true meat eating operators. Just remember: The firearm is just a metal tool. You are the real weapon. And real weapons have to discover what tools are the best tools for the job for themselves.
They are. Love mine to death.
>>64340486the 1911 has a higher bore axis i think compared to a glock so that doesnt help
>>64340545to be honest i dont even trust half the american made 1911s on the market, they all cut corners in some way or another, we're the biggest jews there aresame reason i dont buy american AKs
>>64340193how fucking fat are your turd shaped hands that you get slide or hammer bite from a 1911?? are you holding it like a football??
>>64340654>thisLooks tl;dr, but it's what separates men from the boys.I have P220s and shitty 1911s. I like 45 Fudd. The P220 is expensive as fuck. If I were to use it in an involuntary social meeting, having it confiscated for evidence would hurt. Hence dime store 1911s.
They are great for 400-500 rounds then start to have problems.
I have one that should be arriving at my FFL today.>>64340545They are forged and machined after heat treatment. There is no casting involved on Tisas 1911s. You're thinking of RIA.
>>64341926nah. not the A1 model but my turkshit is coming up on 1,600 rounds without any real problems. Apart from a slide catch that wouldn't lock back on empty 100% which I replaced early on.
>>64341877Wide spur will do it with a modern high grip, I replaced mine with a colt narrow spur.
>>64342063A lot of people report issues after a few hundred rounds. There's just enough QC that there's few out of the box lemons but the overall quality shows over time.
Has anyone tried a dan wesson? I like the look of the razorback.
>>64342121There's a guy on YT with over 3k rounds and all the internals are holding up perfectly fine. The internals are all forged as well, so I'm not sure where you're getting your info from. He even talked about how difficult it was to file things down when he was doing some polishing because the metals are heat treated and forged.
>>64341867That's why you buy Israeli
>>64340545>feels post>probly ever even touched a 1911
>>64340709the best part about this pic is the chrono costs hundreds more than the pistol
>>64342140I know there's some good examples but I've seen endless forum posts of people saying they started to get problems after 200 or so rounds. May just be poor qc on springs but that's the truth.
>>64342239Anyone who uses factory springs on their 1911s are fucking up. I have or have had two Colts, two Springfields, a Dan Wesson, and a Tisas. Every single one of them gets a full spring changeout from the get go because no factory 1911 manufacturer uses the proper spring loading that they should be, especially the recoil spring. They are all undersprung, every single one of them. You gotta get into the $3k range or so to start seeing proper springs out of the box. Why that is, I don't know. Cheap ass companies, I guess. You can get a full Wilson Combat spring set for $17 from either them or Midway. No reason not to do it. If you're buying a 1911 and you don't like to tinker, you're fucking up there as well. Once they're set up and tuned properly they are a dream, and you can do it for pretty cheap these days as OP is alluding to.
>>64340545based, subinsectoid scamming turkroaches will seethe
debating between the cerakote and parkerized one, which one anons? parkerized seems to be about $50 more, maybe $60.
>TurkYou said it. You don't buy anything from cockroaches islamists. Period.
>>64342509Parkerizing is harder to remove if you ever want to blue it. It also rusts easier. Cerakote will wear off though.For $60 less I would just go cerakote
>>64339846Girsan doesn't have a good reputation. Tisas gets either love or hate, sounds like kimber. If I was to cheap out on a 1911 I'd go RIA or Iver Johnson. For a couple extra bones you could get a ruger
>>64342509If you’re looking at the base model Tisas, just spend the extra $20 and get the parkerized ASF edition. The difference is $299 vs $319 at PSA sale prices.
>>64342509parkerized looks much nicer imo, I would spend the extra
>>64342509I got the parkerized one because it looks more GI and it was barely more expensive when I got it like >>64342697 said.
>>64339846Go ahead. Good lesson for you to learn.
i want one but i don't want to stock another caliber :(
>>64340486Not fudlore.True fact.Go rent one and see for yourself
>>64340588Nice dubs.Whats wrong with new Colts?
>>64339846The one I have is fine, looking at another in 9mm/.38 Super.Compares well with my WW2 Colt.
>>64343882wdhmbt
>>64340654# wholesome post
Well, my Tisas A1 just came in. I'll hold off on shooting it for now since the trigger is way too short for my liking so I'm waiting for a longer one to arrive. Overall, it's really nice. I took it apart for a cleaning and a look inside and the machining is extremely clean. If this thing ends up being reliable at $300 I'm gonna be fucking impressed.
>>64344184A few tool marks on the inside and a meh finish on the outside. If I'm paying nearly $1000 for a Colt 1911, I expect it to be perfection.
I've only shot one Tisas (a black Friday GI model). It seemed great for $300 lol. This knockoff 9mm Wilson one keeps calling to me. I'd prefer a tad smaller than commander size and maybe a slimmer frame/slide but...$600 with an aluminum frame and 2 mags seems like it would make a great beater/camping gun that I can blast some $10/box blazer through lol.https://palmettostatearmory.com/tisas-1911-stingray-carry-b9ba-9mm-4-25-9rd-black-1911-carry-b9ba.html
>>643398461. low quality from what I've heard2. Money goes to turks3. It's fucking turkishI hope the entirety of Turkey gets wiped off the face of the fucking earth, I went to a gun store looking for a shotgun and all they had was turkshit. PLEASE GOD DESTROY TURKEY IT'S NOT EVEN A SERBIA THING
>>64344561Tisas 1911s are not even close to the shitpile that Turkish shotguns are.
>giving money to stink roaches>ever
>no dude roach guns are good>ok yeah everyone knows the shotguns are garbage but I'm talking about the other guns>ok so their glock clone is shit but what I'm really talking about are the clones of guns that I can't afford the real ones>trust me bro they're g2g
>>64345084man fuck turkey
>>64344561>from what I've heardWhat exactly did you hear abd where
>>64345131I've heard (read) plenty of shit on turk guns here, and I have my own biases https://youtu.be/DEyzlJg013E?si=bqKsXhY9lss6kLyU&t=250
>>64345180you think the shotguns or the entire industry?
>>64344567I don't even bother educating people on this anymore, at this point they're just willfully retarded about it and won't listen anyways.
>>64339846>These seemToo good to be true. The only hedge is the intrinsic soundness of Browning's design accommodating loose tolerances. Rock Island flip gats are closer, and they have skin & history in the game to make them good for their own market to a much greater degree.
>>64339846LOVE ME TISAS. SIMPLE AS.
>>64345188the shotguns are shit. sar is shit. canik is shit. girsan is shit. even beyond guns can you name one product from turkey that isn't garbage? ask yourself what is more likely, that the tisas factory has a magic fairy that waves her wand and makes them capable of doing what no one else in the country is capable of, or that you fell victim to a marketing campaign.
>>64339846>Why shouldn't I buy a turkish 1911?Pic related>These seem like an absurdly good value.They're a great value, the cost is further destruction and displacement of Armenia and Syria however. Every Tisas or Canik sold is another Bayraktar made.
>>64345194It's turkish>>64345374based
>>64345374
>>64345374Tisas 1911s are excellent.
Bought a RIA 1911 when it was only $300 at Sportsman's Warehouse.Haven't had a problem with it yet, but I've only shot FMJ with it so far.
Love how the schizo haters can never really say why Tisas is shit, they just scream Roach and Turkshit like redditors
>>64345735well for one thing the front sight on their gi model isn't properly installed
>>64345769Sucks for you, works on my machine!
>>64340654>depends on how you fight Who are you fighting anon? Ze germans?
>>64345816have you actually tried removing it?
>>64339846You're supporting a heckin genociderino of commie Kurds
>>64347418>supporting a heckin genociderino of commie Kurds...And Assyrians, Alawites, Druze, Maronite Cypriots, an Armenians too. [spoiler]Arguably Germany too.[/spoiler]
>>64345816Do not engage with it, this is the retard Pinoy who shows up in every Tisas thread and says retarded bullshit like aftermarket parts won't fit and that site swaps are impossible. He makes the same dumbfuck arguments, gets BTFO'd, leaves, and does it all over again in the next thread. A literally mentally ill pest.
>>64347529>retarded bullshit like aftermarket parts won't fitFFS, dealt with that idiocy when the RIA's came out, and before that the Norincos.A LOT of 1911 parts require fitting, and say so on the packaging. Doesn't matter who made the piece if you're too goddamn stupid to realize that bushing you're trying to cram on requires fitting. The Tisas I own mixes and matches just fine with my WW2 Colt, and with my Ballester-Molina (As much as can be expected). In my experience, if it's a "Drop In" for a Colt, it'll be the same for a Tisas.
>>64347611Bear in mind he also thinks that Rossi and Imbel are irredeemably shit, thinks staking is brag-worthy and this chattery mess is impressive, and that the Tisas 1911 sights are brazed. I'd think he was just shitposting if he hadn't been doing it so long so I'm convinced he's actually retarded.
>>64347651Wow, that is shit.
>>64347651they literally are brazed retard
>>64347651I read a few Tisas reviews on PSA that said windage adjustments would require a gunsmith. I don't understand that. I'm no gunsmith but, I have a bench vise, a drift punch, and few bottles of clp. Wtf were they and this poster alluding to? He thinks they're brazed or peened or something? Also, I own a Remington made 1911 (para ordinance buyout years) that's been nothing but flawless.
>>64347960Seriously? I don't remember how my buddy's Tisas shot (high/low/left/right?) but I didn't eyeball the rear sights either. I just remember it grouped like I'd expect. Fucker stood in line at rural king for hours to get it at whatever black Friday price $259? I remember him bragging that it was $300 OTD. If the rear sights were actually brazed into the dovetail, I'd love to see some pics. That seems like the sorta thing people would've shared by now.
I have one.It had some strange issues out of the box, but after a few hundred rounds, it broke in nicely and runs just fine. Had to drill the detent in the slide stop slightly deeper to prevent it from randomly locking back on its own, but other than that, stock parts with no modification required.
only reason i'd ever get a 1911 is to do some flag wanking and getting an imported one kind of undercuts that
>>64348044having the front sight brazed in doesn't mean it won't be zeroed, it means that you have to cut it off to remove it instead of being able to punch it out like you're supposed to be. it isn't widely reported because most people who buy gi models never touch the front sight and the ones who do immediately realize that it's too complicated to do at the kitchen table and take it to a gunsmith who will be dismissed by the internet roach defense force when it is brought up.
at $300 they are worth getting. that said my hi point .45 outshoots the tisas because of the adjustable sight
>>64348086You should own a 1911 because they're extremely fun and easy to shoot. Period.
>>64347960When I get mine out back home I'm going to take a pic and shit down your neck you island monkey nigger
>>64348119I understand what brazing is. Idk how that wouldn't be visible though? Even a tiny bubble/pool in the dovetail would be easily visible with any phone camera. Are there pics? I swear I read reviews saying the "windage" was off on the bobtailed aluminum frame one I've been looking at. I'm curious if it's just a bubba thing or legit, and if it's legit... WHY? Wtf is the purpose of that?
>>64348044>. If the rear sights were actually brazed into the dovetail, I'd love to see some pics. That seems like the sorta thing people would've shared by now.You don't see it shared because it's not real and he's a retard. It's why there's countless people, even redditors, that talk about replacing their Tisas sights with no issues.
>Guis how do????
>Whuuuhhhhh??????
>>64340545Why are you relying on a 1911 to begin with>100 plus year old design>manual safety>7 round magazine>fudd caliberIf you insist on a 45 for personal defense use a glock 21 or something with actual mag capacity. 1911s are fun range toys but not a practical defense weapon
>>64347651That's some "High on the Why?" gunsmithing there. And yeah, it looks..Bad. Not just the wonky cuts on the top of the slide, the overall presentation looks clunky.(Also, if that's brazed on, the guy who did it is a fucking wizard)
>>64348280Front sight is obviously staked.(Also: Not rust, that's Anderol L-786 grease)
>>64347992A brass (or delrin) drift and a small hammer are all you need for adjusting the rear sight.
>>64347960Uhhh no they are not, we get the USGIs in regularly and I've not seen one with brazed sights
>>64348300>Uhhh no they are not, we get the USGIs in regularly and I've not seen one with brazed sightsHere's the tenon of my WW2 era Colt. It's just staked.
>>64348320Yeah that prettier than what the Tisas have in our shop but they're still staked, bot brazed
>>64348191I'm gonna disagree with you, not on specs, but on experience. Some people shoot 1911's extremely well because they point naturally for them. I'm one of those people. You can train with anything and get better at it, but why not use what you like? It's less muscle memory and practice. I'm fine with an 8+1 1911. I can shoot it (offhand even) well enough to hit a man sized silhouette inside 25. I'll probably waste the first 5 or 6 rounds from a Glock just trying to adjust my wrist downward enough, nevermind my speed of follow-up shots with the plastic frame and too heavy feel. Without regular practice with a Glock, i'd probably put more of those 9 rounds of 45 on target vs the 18 rounds of 9mm in a high stress situation, and in the end, only hits count. As a general rule, 1911's are easier to shoot and more controllable on follow up shots than striker fired polymer pistols (for me).To each their own. We're all different. There's no one size fits all solution to any problem. Plastic dildos come in different sizes. I bet some are even made in Austria.
>>64339846You should. Any anon who says otherwise is retarded.
>>64348332Yes, I posted the front tenon staking of my Tisas above.
>>64348340*Top heavy feel (of polymer pistols).
>>64348191You don't actually shoot.
>>64347651>Those radiiREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>64348150it's the front sight not the rear one pay attention to what is being discussed. you don't see it any more than you see the staking in a properly installed sight.
Ok so the front sights are staked on Tisas. I'm ok with that. It's not fucking brazed though...I'm not out an entire slide if someone fucks up trying to adjust it lol.I consider this issue settled unless I see some actual photos of brazing on a Tisas (front or rear sights).
>>64348389Brazing would be obvious even with a casual inspection at the front sight area, as well. Painfully Obvious.
>>64348389I was trying to understand the complaint. There's no post ids here but I posted that I saw a few reviews on PSA about the "rear windage" requiring a gunsmith to adjust. I was trying to figure out if what any of these posters were talking about correlated. It's not my fault people are retarded...I'm just looking for evidence of said claims.It looks like the FS is staked, which is fine. It's not impacting my purchase decisions. With that said, apparently the Tisas knockoff 9mm Wilson model goes on sale close to $500 so, I've set a price alert. I'm definitely grabbing one.
>>64348399>>64348412found my picture. the yellow color is unmistakable. also the fact that it wouldn't fucking fall off even after the blade had been entirely cut off with an endmill.
>>64348399Apparently one of the importers (SDS) of Tisas made 1911's, offered a version with a front sight that was silver soldered on. " I have a Tisas 1911a1 which according to SDS the importer has a pressed in front sight which is then brazed welded with what looks like brass. "This does not mean it left the factory that way, or that all of them are. (or that it even was in fact brazed).
>>64348412Exactly. You'd see that shit as a pool/ooze mark. I'm not even a good welder, but ive brazed exhaust pipes before and I can solder well enough. You can't hide that like it's glue or something lol. Goddamn ESL no gunzs posters trying to confuse us...
>>64348436Yet mine lacks that. Interesting.
>>64348436That looks like a brass shotgun pin that someone took a Dremel to.
>>64348436You sure it's not threaded, like a shotgun bead sight?
>>64348436Wow that's nuts.But the USGI still doesn't have that. Maybe it did, but none of them that have come in for the last 4-5 years have.
>>64348451you couldn't see it until you dremel away what would normally be the staking. I don't know if they still do it but that one sure was and apparently at least one other person has reported the same>>64348440>>64348455it was a gi front sight. if you're going to claim I don't know what I'm talking about here is a different gun with a new sight being installed the correct way.
>>64348191None of the things you listed are meaningful downsides, zoomie
>>64348440So SDS decided to waste time pinning on 1911 FS with brass pins? I'm not saying you or the pic is wrong but...what on earth would be the explanation for that, and is it still a thing or was it done random one-offs? I owned a wasr AK. I've seen funky import mods lol.
>>64348473I hear ya, just trying to understand what I'm looking at. I Dremeled off a couple AR fsp pins back in the day out of frustration lol. I guess I'm asking for specifics. Is that an SDS import model or is it a recent buy?
>>64348461That would be unusual, but now that I think about it, an ivory bead on a high polish 1911 might look nice.>>64348473I've seen that forum post, and was the one who posted the reference to it it here.Again, I cannot see that on mine, and am not about to fire up the foredom and grind on a functioning piece without reason.USGI front sights were simply staked from the factory. Some 'smiths for a time were silver soldering and staking, but that died when red locktite and/or sleeve retainer became commonly available.
Why would you even braze that shit in, staking is so much quicker and cheaper and it looks like that's the standard for these roach clones anyways
>>64348513Breaklean and purple for me but, I understand what you're saying.I'm just asking if that's really a thing on all these Tisas or was it sone random bullshit by an importer a few years ago.
>>64348485Maybe some came in with with loose tenons, maybe they wanted to offer a different front sight.You'd have to do some refinishing though, as brazing/silver soldering is not something done to an already finished part.
>>64348530Honestly I'd bet money that one shot we have of a brazed Tisas sight that was done by the owner, we have no idea if that's a shot of his work getting an aftermarket part in and totally chimping it or not
>>64348503I forget what model that was, I think it was a ria or maybe a colt. it was brought in at the same time as the tisas, I think by the same guy. on that one the front sight came right off after removing the staking. this was like 5 years ago.>>64348513I know how it's supposed to be installed, I'm just saying that at least that one had it brazed in but ridf doesn't want to believe it even with photographic proof.
>>64348530If I reverse image search that, is it gonna show arfcom or 1911forum threads full of boomers convincing each other to buy colts and send them to "their guy"? Lol. Or, is it an actual ongoing issue?
>>64348520pretty much, makes zero sense and we have counter evidence that they're properly staked sooooooo...moot point?
>>64348554> I'm just saying that at least that one had it brazed in Okay, but that seems very much an exception to the rule so why act like it's the standard like you were doing earlier?
>>64348530>I'm just asking if that's really a thing on all these Tisas or was it sone random bullshit by an importer a few years ago.I'd answer that "even if it is that I am mistaken, and ALL of their front sights are soldered and staked, how many end users intend to remove their front sights?"Chances are, of the fairly small minority that do, removing the front sight would be so that a dovetail could be cut, and not installing another tenon type front sight, rendering the concern moot.
>>64348554Ok so it's the only photographic "evidence" of a pinned and welded FS on a Tisas...and it might not be a Tisas according to your memory.I'm just playing devil's advocate here as I refuse to believe these people would bother milling out parts, just to butcher something so noticable. Unless they're employing the same $13/hr employees that PSA uses to pin fsp on uppers? lol.
>>64348563well that was the only tisas I had a job to replace the front sight so it was 100% as far as I know. maybe it's different now but I wouldn't be surprised if there were a bunch floating around.>>64348568plenty of people like gi style sights but want them to glow in the dark. that's why trijicon sells gi style sights and doesn't just tell people to cut their slides.
>>64348591>I refuse to believe these people would bother milling out parts, just to butcher something so noticable.With said butchering involving a slower, costlier and more difficult method than just staking like every other 1911 got since day one...No sir, something don't add up. Let's see the original forum post.
>>64348591no I know the brazed on was tisas. the normal one is the one I don't remember. and like I said it's not noticeable until you start dremeling away and try to punch it out. if I had known it was brazed in I would have told the guy to find someone else to do it because it was a pain in the ass.
>>64348611>as far as I knowHmmmmmm
>>64348568Makes sense, but given the sheer number sold by now, id expect some feedback from local smiths to permeate the gun community (with pics).My buddy that bought one on black Friday said they had a separate line for Tisas and heritage.22 revolvers. He said there were stacks of them. That's one store, in one area, of one state. That was like 4 or 5 years ago. They've had to have sold a few hundred thousand of those things by now. Even if 1% had point of aim issues and 1% of those people sought out a gunsmith, that's a few hundred Tisas with brass pins installed. There should be more than one pic. The gun community is kinda clicky.
so the ONE piece of evidence that these things have brazed sights is from the anon who hates roach 1911s so much he doesn't even need a trip to be recognized. against a multitude of counter evidence that shows them to be staked.
>>64348657you don't have to replace the front sight to correct zeroing problems you retard, and it's been reported by me and at least one other person so you can't claim that I'm just making it up.
Is it worth building one of these up as a future supressor host or just saving up for an FNX or something?
>>64348679If this thread is still up tomorrow when I'm back from work I'll add mine to the pile. I'm willing to go the extra mile to shit on this annoying Pinoy prick, his negative charisma is just so rancid I'm driven to.
>>64348611>that's why trijicon sells gi style sights and doesn't just tell people to cut their slides.The vast majority of those buying said sets are going to field the work off to a gunsmith or machinist. Very, very few tritium front sights for 1911's are installed by the home gunsmith. Again, making it a moot point how the front sight is held in.
>>64348191
>>64345769okay so since this has been shut down what are your other reasons for why no one should get a Tisas?
>>64348617>Let's see the original forum post.here's one I found, which again reads like he was "told that's how it's done". https://www.1911addicts.com/threads/tisas-1911a1-brazed-front-sight.95597/
>>64348679Well it MIGHT have been valid...a half decade ago at least. He should probably retire that as a talking point, though, since it seems they're no longer imported that way (if they ever were to begin with).
>>64339846I never heard a bad thing about Tisas.Other brand seems dodgy
>>64348737There is a recall for repair on some models for hammer follow, but they were very up front about it. I've been happy with mine, and the other members of the rifle club I'm in also seem to be pleased with theirs.That being said if the concept of buying a Turkish made 1911 curdles your cream, the RIA offering is also fine too.
>>64348711answer me faggot
>>64348683Re-read that post and respond again. No is disputing how to correct poa on a handgun, ffs. I hope you're just drunk.
>>64349437so what does having a point of aim problem have to do with trying to remove the front sight and discovering that it's brazed on?
>>64345389>Every Tisas or Canik sold is another Bayraktar made.GET ME 500 TISAS 1911s AND 500 CANIK TP9s RIGHT FUCKING NOWTOTAL ARMENIAN DEATHOTALARMENIANDEATH
>>64347526Am I supposed to be against that? And if they genocide the Krauts, where else are they going to be able to sell kebab to? The German market for Kebab alone directly supports at least half of the population of Turkey. Sounds like some Greekoid needs to get back to work and start paying denbts.
