Will it be a military revolution?Seeing Ukraine combat footages, war between peer powers under the equalizer of air-defense denying both sides air supremacy will inevitably devolve to close range combat between small teams of heavily armed assault troopers who move along the tree lines or urban ruins.The side who uses power armored soldiers will inevitably win most firefights and gain territory.
>>64345923>Will it be a military revolution?No, because it's cheaper to come up with ways to gain the advantage in air supremacy than it is to design, produce and outfit people with power armor
We have powered armor.It holds up to 9! people, has an autocannon, and can equip ATs.Rumor has it that this powered armor can even destroy an MBT just with the cannon, if it gets lucky.
>>64345942It's too large and won't be able to hide. APC and IFVs are priority targeted these days because a vehicle full of squishy humans makes better gore videos than a single tank that might throw it's turret.
>>64345923Chat is this real
>>64345946Left guy is real, right guy is PS. China has the exoskeleton in trials but not the armor platings
>>64345946yea but you can buy this shit on aliexpress
>>64345941Makes sense, but even FPV drones will soon be endangered species due to HPM and lasers. And power armor with enough armor to protect from fragmentation would also reduce FPVs lethality to that of a stray bullet.
>>64345923Chong Changweng waited. The lights above him blinked and sparked out of the air. There were power armor in the base. He didn't see them, but had expected them now for years. His warnings to Cernel Chongson were not listenend to and now it was too late. Far too late for now, anyway.Chong was a CCP marine for fourteen years. When he was young he watched the ships and he said to dad "I want to be on the ships daddy."Dad said "No! You will BE KILL BY POWER ARMOR"There was a time when he believed him. Then as he got oldered he stopped. But now in the naval station base of the CCP he knew there were power armor."This is Chongson" the radio crackered. "You must fight the power armor!"So Chong gotted his palsma rifle and blew up the wall."HE GOING TO KILL US" said the power armors"I will shoot at him" said the HIMARS and he fired the rocket missiles. Chong plasmaed at him and tried to blew him up. But then the ceiling fell and they were trapped and not able to kill."No! I must kill the power armors" he shoutedThe radio said "No, Chong. You are the power armors"And then Chong was a power armor.
The power armor thread spammer is so gay.
>>64345955It is not an exoskeleton if the unit does not support itself.Think about it.All bodily force has to come from your interaction with gravity.If it's your feet bearing all load, it's your body ultimately spending all the energy and/or taking all the strain.Now if you'll excuse me, I'm watching a German whore pretend to be a cat.
>>64345969It is basically a brace in some way. Enough to take effort off the joints. A real exoskeleton with foot plates that are flexible enough to mimic the feet's movements still need to be invented.
Chainsword and bolters next
>>64345946you have to be 18 to post here
>>64345923>InevitablyThe only thing inevitable here is more shitty slide threads. Shut the fuck up and go read a book. Nothing you said was even remotely close to true or relevant. The war in Ukraine is not fought by assault infantry, it's fought by long range precision fires: artillery, drones, and every plane both sides can muster. There is no fundamental misunderstanding of war by western powers: this is literally the shit doctrine seeks to avoid but prepares to fight, and the end goal is always going to be munitions on target from as far away as possible whether your PGM is a $20 DJI or the latest Texas Instruments.
>>64345923Countries that are too poor to get air supremacy are too poor to afford larp armorsCountries which are rich enough to get air superiority don't need larp armors
>>64345972>>64345969The exoskeleton should be thought about as a spectrum, not just a heavily armored power armor. The US military was testing a light, strain-reducing exo which is powered by *pressurized air*.You need to re-pressurize a tank after X hours but overall, they weigh next to nothing and reduce strain on knees a lot. At some point they were planning a commercial model for skiing resorts, for downhill skiers who rely on their legs and knees.The commercial model cost 2500 USD, the military version probably more. But that's pennies in the military world.https://spectrum.ieee.org/roam-robotics-announces-2500-soft-exoskeleton-for-skiers-and-snowboardershttps://www.roamrobotics.com/
>>64345923No because anti tank rocket launchers exist."Power Armor" will simply priority flag you for attack by light anti tank weapons, high caliber gunfire and of course, suicide drones with shaped charges or simply enough explosive to Jellify your organs. The hard counters to that sort of armor already exist and are commonly deployed, they'll just issue more HMGs with tungsten core ammo, More RPG/LAW/CarlGustaf type lightweight expendable rockets.That sort of suit will never be able to carry enough armor to defeat HEAT or proper AP due to battery energy density concerns. The more you armor it the shorter your battery life and once that armors battery goes flat it becomes an immobile coffin. You survive infantry combat by staying low and avoid detection, not by walking into MG fire like a retard. Why go around the corner yourself in a 800 pound $1,000,000 suit when you could just throw 3 frags a flashbang and willey peat and just shoot whatever crawls out then send a quadcopter in to see if its clear for a total logistical burden of $800 and 15 pounds.Like "walkers", "Power armor" is a rule of cool fantasy, no a practical thing.The only place it will ever possibly exist is in zerog/microgravity combat where both weight and cover are not real, solving its greatest problem and presenting a problem for it to solve. But even so, why would you do that instead of just making a larger armored assault craft that can carry multiple men, or making an armored robotic probe that does not risk anyone's life.If you have the ability to make bulletproof armor move itself into harms way, why put a man in it at all?
>>64345986Nah,you havent seen how Pvkrosk or other shithole ruins have been taken over. It was all assault infantry infiltrating through tree lines or even pipelines, moving from one ruin to another. Both sides I t he conflict love Datcha areas and commie blocks because they offer cover for their assault troops like Wagner and Azov to move through and murder each other on close combat. Fires are just for preparation work and usually targeted against identified strongpoints or logistics bases.
Is China even supplying plates to their soldiers yet? Last time I checked they weren't because something something esprit de corps.
>>64346010They do have them but usually not train with them.They never fought a war in 40 years but those deployed on counter piracy missions and UN nigger wrangling all look as Globohomo as they can get
Current exos can add at most 5 kgs per arm.A good ol Steroids will double or triple your strength.
>>64346014Really telling that China will adopt drones en masse before adding 10 pounds of armor to their soldiers to stop them from bleeding out.
>>64346019If by that you mean that do not give a single solitary fuck if the average solider lives or dies and care only about damage inflicted down range per cost, than yea. We all knew that though.Same reason they issue those retarded automatic grenade launchers everywhere when a guy can only possibly carry like 50 rounds for one. Those things cannot suppress they lack magazine depth and saturation, they are not precise, They are about flinging as much down range as possible before the guy carrying it gets MG'd and another takes his spot.
>>64346008>Fires are just for preparation workwhen youre an impoverish slav army too poor to provide tactical fire support and too low tech to physically dig positions out with artillery and bombs.This conflict in Ukraine is not indicative of "the new war" this is poor as fuck retarded slavs bludgeoning each other with last centuries leftovers.Neither side is capable of maneuver. Neither side has air superiority.Neither side has meaningful deep strike capability. This war of attrition is happening because both sides are exhausted, impoverish and deeply incompetent.Theres only so much that can be learned by watching two gassed boxers hug each other.
>>64346026Go watch the Type 56 channel. PLA doctrine is exactly opposite to what you say or usual USSR doctrines. They go with semi British shit like every soldier is a marksman, wasting bullets is a crime against the people, aim and aim again and only then shoot kind of shit, and train all their soldiers as if they were expert infiltrators and light infantry because they were PTSDes by almost a century of having zero industries and logistics at all, making every single bullet a precious gift by the party to the fighters.This is why they lost the firefight against Vietnam back then, since Vietnam used fully automatic AKs and the PLA only SKS.
This was 42kms behind russian frontlines.Ukraine is currently developing a fiberoptic drone able to hit up to 100kms away.
>>64345923Power armor will eventually be standard for all infantry. The question is how far out "eventually" is.First applications are probably going to be for guys like the first one in the funnel as well as logistics and engineering. Being able to tank an AK being dumped at you from across the room is a big deal. So is being able to move things that would normally take a crew or specialized equipment to load in a timely manner. First suits are going to be big, bulky, and slow compared to sci-fi suits. Probably also short battery lives unless hooked to an umbilical. Plenty of time to kool-aid man some poor bastard, but not practical for widespread issuance or general combat use.Logistics is where the early frames will truly shine. Raytheon did demos of this two decades ago. Imagine loading up pallets transport all day and barely being a little tired because the frame basically did all the actual lifting while also more or less being an anywhere chair. Productivity through the roof is guaranteed. The biggest problems for designers is being able to ensure the suit has the energy capacity to be worth widespread issue instead of specialized roles. The motors to run the thing aren't that big of a deal anymore. Tesla could probably fart them out casually. It's just simply not worth giving one to everyone if you don't get enough run time to actually make it worth it.>>64346005Please knock if off with the "we have scissors so paper is worthless" shit. Might as well not even bother with plates in the first place by that logic because a fucking 9mm to the dome will kill you dead as shit even if you're wearing the best coverage body armor with level IV plates in it, so will the things you listed. MANPADS, SAMs and SPAAGs exist so should we stop using planes and helicopters? ATGMs and "anti-tank rocket launchers" make IFVs, AFVs, and tanks totally and completely worthless right?War's over kids, everything's got a hard counter so we should just give up.
>>64346040>fiberoptic droneSo... wire guided? With 100km range.Okay.
We really need a revolutionize that will finally Kill of combined arms warfare and manuever shit.
>>64346044Its not that "paper is worthless" its that scissors are already commonly deployed, inexpensive and well developed. Its not uncommon for infantry to have light AT on them. and its utterly common for a company or platoon to have heavy weapons on call. The minute "Exoskeleton infantry is spotted those resources are going to be used because of the obvious loss of the position if guys in suits attack guys in shirts. Deploying armor like that isnt going to be stealthy, they cannot infiltrate by foot they wont have the battery life, they'll have to be deployed from vehicles adapted to carry and charge them. They MIGHT protect the uses from Small arms and grenades, which a limited suit of plates and kevlar already does most of the time.They will not protect from artillery any better than that wearing a ballistic armor and hiding in a crater does. Its ulikely they will provide protection from targeted MG fire, there will be gaps in the armor if it is able to move, and if there are not gaps it will be so heavy that youre talking minutes of battery life.The suit does not provide anything that infnatry does not already have to some degree and its costs a LOT of logisitical support AND it costs his stealth and mobility. he wont be able to tuck into cover as easily, he will make more noise. all of this for a situational protection against the one of the things least like to kill you in modern war.Its not that "counter exists" its that counter is common and the suit itself is a solution in search of a problem.The load lifters are a MUCH more sensible option. and if anything what you might see is Those things being armored and weaponized for fixed defensive use with an external power umbilical and heavy weapons. Like MAYBE attach a suit to an APC with power cable but now the carrier has to stay with like a few hundred meters and your suit is a on a mission critical leash which can be cut. And the carrier is going to be noticed and attract artillery fire.
>>64346057Future battlefields will be fucking covered with blankets of fiberoptic cables.
>>64346062WW3 global nuclear exchange and economic collapse are the only things that might even possibly do that.It is simply better to bypass strongpoints and attack critical rear area targets and destroy the enemies ability to sustain war. Industrial war requires industrial support. Thus, attack enemy industry to deny him resupply, rather than attacking his forces directly which his untouched industry will simply replace.This was the Lesson of the Second world war.~3 years of axis victories meant NOTHING in the end because they were unable to stem the tide of replacement while they themselves were unable to protect their production.
>>64346091So we need to democratize heavy industry.50 yrs and we should have nanomachine 3d printers able to do that.Yay.
>>64346062Also we should find a way to deal with mechanized shit.We really need space marine asap.
>>64345923>Jin-Roh AMV - "Panzermensch"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTvbgA53thc
>>64345923>under the equalizer of air-defensewhich won't happen in the case of US v CHINA lol lmao.unimplessive thread.
>>64345967How many times do you think she got fucked over that console, bare breasts against the cold screen, stomach being scratched by the dials and switches and lights?
On one side im conflicted Pro china posters are very annoying, on the other all the pro nato pro American ones are obnoxious and hate the frog.
>>64345967It's an older meme, but it checks out.
>>64345923I hate to break it to you, OP, but you’re never going to get to see your super soldier fantasies come to life. Sorry. There’s far more technologically feasible, logistically possible, and tactically sound ideas for the future of warfare than making individual dudes into walking tanks. The Spehs Mehreen Mister Chef Brotherhood of Steal uberChad isn’t happening.
>>64346135I dunno, Hegseth is just retarded and childish enough to try and make it happen (and get a shitton of troops killed by doing so).
>>64346083So we shouldn't try to innovate with concepts that have been around forever in fiction that the tech is slowly catching up for? I guess the whole point is I'm sick and tired of people saying "NOPE! NEVER BE A THING!" simply because it's not feasible today in their minds. People made many of the same sort of arguments for things that are now commonplace today. The first tanks were a joke. People were still saying powered flight would never happen for a while AFTER the Wright brothers did if I'm remembering right. Everything good starts somewhere and probably starts shitty.They will protect significantly better against small arms than modern armor. That's the whole point. Notably better armor coverage with less felt burden for the man wearing it. Better overall survivability and endurance. Not only that but your guy can likely carry bigger nastier weapons too.An IFV will get fucked by arty too. Again, bringing up counters is bullshit. Why? First they're not omnipresent and still have to actually hit. Even if everyone in every squad now carries an AT-4 or Javelin they still have to hit that at worst Shaq sized target. From that point they better pray they're not outnumbered. You're also assuming it's always near peer combat that can casually just call supporting fire.Stealth is a down the road feature, not immediate. Miniaturization/optimization is required. First frames are NOT going to be stealthy but also won't be widespread enough for it to matter. Logistics, again, is a direct benefit of this stuff. It's a safe bet a lot of the issue brought by power armor will also be solved directly by it.It's not a "solution in search of a problem". I really wish people would stop fucking saying that trying to sound smart, it gives the opposite appearance. The problem is body armor isn't full coverage and without some sort of powered assist it'd slow down and gas out your infantry VERY quickly.Think forward anon, not purely in the now. You can speculate.
>>64346106Yes, China has better AD than the US. It will be one sided slaughter up until Hawaii or even Alaska.
>>64346154I think that power armor is going to be a curbstomping kind of weapon the same way attack helicopters and non-stealth bombers are devastatingly effective at mopping up armies with no air force and no air defenses left. It'll be used by SOF niggas for clearing bunkers to limit casualties against an already defeated enemy
>>64346173I think most common use case will be for police SWAT units instead of military, criminals don't have anti-tank weapons
>>64346173That's exactly the sort of thing I expect the first ones to actually see combat to be doing. They're not going to be doing regular combat infantry things, they're going to be doing things that would be exceptionally dangerous for regular infantry like building clearing.>>64346180>criminals don't have anti-tank weaponsNeither do most infantry if we're being totally honest.On the civ side I'd actually expect firefighters to get versions suited to their needs. You might see one or two major SWAT teams with one but fully power armored cops is another down the road thing.
>>64345967I understood this reference.
>>64345987Truth nuke
>>64345941Russia had complete air superiority over Ukraine for 2 and half years yet they didn't do much.
>>64346525>Russia
>>64346525I guess air superiority means something entirely different for you than it does for me
>>64346062Based pitched battle enjoyer
>>64346083>They MIGHT protect the uses from Small arms and grenadesYou've gone so pessimistic you doubt more armor can even protect you from what less armor already helps with.Anyway power armor is an inevitability. Even basic exoskeletons to handle the weight of the shit they already carry is going to become more and more enticing as they get better. Exoskeletons are gonna go the exact same path as drones. They just need to reach a high enough level of convenience, low price, and efficiency.
>>64345923
>>64346600So this basically confirms the thread is just more thinly-veiled chinkspam
>>64346525Russia doesn’t have air superiority over Russia
>>64346600this shit is just some tiktokerpicrel is real deal and actually the suit that OP shows.
>>64346606looks much less sexy in any case
>>64345923For the 800th time, NO. ITS NOT VIABLE. WE DONT HAVE THE LEVEL OF TECH YET TO SUPPORT IT.COME BACK IN 200 YEARS.
>>64346603The chinkshill loser always ramps up his shilling over the weekends
>>64346525>yet they didn't do much.ya because the CIA was bird-dogging every single aircraft they sent out and giving the info to ukraine
>>64346156>china has better AD than the USincorrect, angry chinkshill, the US does have far better airpower and SEAD tactics than china, so it will indeed be a onesided slaughter.brownoids like yourself can dream though, if that comforts you.
>>64346525>retard fails to understand what air superiority meansit's always funny, they'll never learn.
>>64346543>>64347012Air supremacy (as well as air superiority) is the degree to which a side in a conflict holds control of air power over opposing forces.
>>64346770This
>>64346140Holy shit just shave already
>>64347098why are you defending the cronies of an 80yr old sociopath?
>>64347123Why are you crying in every thread over being told to clean your face bucko?
>>64347066right, and neither russia nor ukraine held any fucking control over either's airspaces, so there was no air superiority to speak of.
>>64347128nta but why are you having a schizophrenic breakdown trying to tell some random anon to shave because he insulted a political figure?
>>64347144I just told him to shave lmfao.
>>64347147>i told him to shavein what context? that sounds like BS to me.
>>64347151This is so funny, you even admit I just said that. Calm down kiddo and pick up a razor, police that moustache
>>64347004American SEAD is literally just planes launching missiles and get shot down attempting that if the enemy isnt some random dude that was politically pressured into not retaliating or attempting to shoot down the planes, giving Trump a face saving victory to show off. China's SEAD is like launching hypersonic missiles with passive seekers at your base and either you try to intercept them and get your radars destroyed by them, or the target you are protecting is getting rekt.American planes are obsolete and in disrepair. Nobody fears fat amy or crumbling raptors with their RAM chipping off. And they will have no airfields to fly off in an event of war in the WestPac. Any B-21 will be seen by satellite once it moves onto the airfields of CONUS and tracked in-flight by satellites - or just destroyed by hypersonics during takeoffs or picked off by 6th gen patrols plus CCA swarms flying CAP over the pacific.
>>64346154Power armor isn't an innovation in fiction,it's a cope for inferior tech. It was written before guided weapons. It was a way to strap a human brain into a ground drone because they couldn't fit a vacuum tube mainframe computer inside. Heinlein is pretty clear about this when he talks about soldiers going into caves and how the fleet can't do precision control.
>>64347222>hypersonicsHitler threatened to launch hypersonics out of u-boats at New York, how did that turn out for him?
>>64346606>64346154Imagine running toward her, she missing every shoot, overpowering her as she just gives up because chinese women being raped by mongols, europeans, japanese and americans have learned the instinct and then raping her asshole until her intestines explode.Cute
>>64346600I love how even he’s cringing.Power armor all the way up to bio-mechanical suits that fit you like a warm vagina will be basically like strapping yourself into a roller coster ride anyway.Unless there’s some benefit I’m unaware of to a million mechanical little flappy plates sticking to you: this is more likely a cosplay demo than a concept prop demo.
>>64346010>>64346014>>64346019They bought millions of level 4 ceramics and have been using them as standard issue since the late 2010s. Do you avoid reading all news about China or something?/k/ is turning into jeetslop. Brown morons jerking each other off in willful ignorance of the modern world.
>>64346085Jesus. That sets off my arachnophobia.
>>64345955>They need powered skeletons to mimic a fraction of a American 18 year olds powerlol
>>64347222>source: his aislop twitter feed
The most annoying thing about this board (excluding /pol/acks regularly showing up and thinking we like them) is that when /k/ posters don't like some future tech thing it is immediately viewed with an intentionally stagnant mindset then declare it impossible and verboten to even think about. You guys LOVE to forget that MIC research and development groups and agencies like DARPA are guaranteed FULL of nerds who want to make their favorite sci-fi shit a reality. It could be weapons tech every last one of us would kill to have and you asshats will bitch and moan ceaselessly like a bunch of Fudds the first time they saw a fancy AR.The one man I'd watch above all others for related tech improvements would be Elon Musk. Between SpaceX, Tesla, and xAI the man has companies working on pretty much every problem required to make power armor (and battle droids) viable. Seriously, it's all there. Energy storage, precise and high speed/power electric motors, control systems, you name it the guy probably has a company working on it right now.
>>64348861/k/ loves stagnation. Posting about anything built after 2015 is a minefield. Doubly so if it's Asian.Pic related, this is more practical than exoskeletons.
>>64348861>"Wahh why won't you all validate my vidyagaem/animu fantasies">Proceeds to suck off muskFuck off back to twitter.
>>64348876Or maybe we're sick of the explicit china shills constantly coming over here and making blatant spam threads for their daily yuan.
>>64348891Everything is a shill when you're angry and insecure. It's a new label on an old cope. Anything outside the angry stale Overton window of the legacy user is walled out, and after a few cycles of labelling everything new and different as trolling, they become so out of touch just showing them the new stuff gets labeled as fake and it becomes impossible to drag them out of the trap they painted themselves into.In other words, even if the shills living rent-free in your brain were real, they would be the lesser evil compared to you.
>>64345997Shoot, if it lasts a good while then 2.5k isn't THAT much to spend on what's essentially a piece of important safety equipment. At least if you use it often. I wonder if this sort of thing would ever be rugged enough for workplace use.
>>64348176thats because those are spider webs you fucking knuckleheadhttps://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/jun/15/they-look-like-waves-massive-spider-webs-blanket-gippsland-after-victorian-floods
>>64348876I don't think it's so much a love of stagnation as it is a hate of new things and a refusal to admit they could be wrong.Assuming the footage in that gif is legit and not just a choreographed fraud then if that turret had fast enough motors to match the human turning their head that'd be insane. As a VR lover that lag would be unbelievably frustrating and possibly vomit inducing lol. Head tracking could be so damn useful for that sort of thing it's ridiculous.>>64348878You don't have to like Musk to be able to accept that his companies are moving forward basically every component required for power armor (and droids). Possibly even armor composites because space isn't friendly.>>64348891It's really simple to deal with hivers. Tienanmen square massacre. Xi the Pooh. China not numbah wan. West Philippine Sea. Taiwan is a country, it's the real China. The mainland is a bunch of communist bandits.Just because we want to talk about neat weapons concepts doesn't mean we're fucking bugmen or paid by them. Instead of getting pissy that one, maybe two of the 150 threads on the board is something you personally REALLY don't like you can always just hang out on AR General #9001.
>>64346600woww vely implessivechinah numba won
>>64345923Great way to make infantry vulnerable to electronic warfare.
>>64346016And thats the steroids we're allowed to have. Also imagine what they could do if governments around the would where trying to out roid each other
>>64346600Cosplayers pushing military innovation.
>>64349038>Great way to make infantry vulnerable to electronic warfare... just wrap the electrical components in microwave screen.. total weight added: few hundred grams
>>64345923noperemember you live in the real worldwhere dystopias are lame & gayAI & drones were invented so all the cool shit will never happen because now that everyone is a faggot they will just use drones & AI for conflicts, IF ANY.since the most probable outcome is that AI takes over and everyone is disarmed and forced to take estrogen and loses any will to fight or rebel against the system ending war in the gayest way possible.think 40K future but the polar opposite where everything is feminine and homosexual.
>>64348108China actually produces the majority of the world's body armor and plates kek.I bought mine off AliExpress and it's good.
>>64345923Until battery tech or extremely portable energy tech makes leaps, no, we're not gonna see any power armor.
>>64345955>A PSPerfect Soldier, huh?
>>64345923Won't survive a direct hit from an fpv drone and it can out maneuver the soldier and hit the battery pack .
>>64346032>too low tech to physically dig positions out with artillery and bombs.the russians have been trying this for 3 years. it doesn't work as well as you think
>>64346085this is exactly the kind of fucked up shit about new wars that no one is able to predict in advance, jesus
>>64346057you bring more wire yesif they can do 40 already why is 100 somehow different, the scaling law is linear
>>64346083>Its not uncommon for infantry to have light AT on them.yeah a squad might carry one system with a 10-20% chance to mission kill a tank if they run into it. but now you're up against a squad of dudes in power armor sneaking through back alleys rather than a single T-62 sitting out in the open taking potshots
>>64347066Russia can't fly over Ukrainian lines without a massive risk of getting shot down. Ukraine still operates an air force that still actively supports combat operations at and beyond the front line.
>>64345997>for downhill skiers who rely on their legs and kneesWell anon how the fuck do YOU ski?
>>64349038electronic warfare isn't what you think it is.
>>64345986Slog fights only start that way, there is the inevitable full panic run like hell retreat. WWI was less trenchy than people think, there were a lot of running battles.
>>64345955Boomers, nobody uses ps these days for this. AI or bust.
>>64346606>>64347867Wouldn't it be very easy to make those plates out of UHMWPE? Then It would be literally Level 3 rated
>>64348876>turret that can spin 360 degrees>tied to a neck that cannot spin 360 degrees
>>64351712That's the way that most full enclosure armor systems are going. Polyethylene for the non-vital parts and plates for the chest and maybe upper legs.
>>64351717You use controller to do the rough targeting, neck for the fine adjustments. Like in VR
>>64345923>entire platoon gets BTFO by a couple 20mm autocannonsLol>>64348876Lol this is so fake
>>64351932Its a chinese shilling thread with a thin cover, what do you expect.
>>64351932>entire platoon gets BTFO by a couple 20mm autocannonsI remember reading about a particular engagement in German invasion of either Belgium or Netherlands where they suffered, according to my recollection, around 200 casualties from single 20mm position
>>64345962Not really. Energy weapons are limited by line of sight and typically have to remain on target for multiple seconds to destroy a drone. And if a drone is flying low to the ground, it can't be engaged until it's fairly close.Basically, you can reliably calculate the maximum number of drones a particular laser can defeat in the amount of time it would take the drones to reach the laser from the edge of its maximum effective range, and then just send one more drone. There goes the multi-million dollar laser turret, almost certainly destroyed at a significantly lower cost in drones.
>>64352321That's not entirely fair, I don't think anybody is suggesting the anti-drone future is to put a single laser up on an open hill and daring your enemy to get in range.
>>64351074>He doesn't ski on his assNot gonna make it
>>64351932Infantry gets killed by auto cannons? Wow time to retire infantry they are so useless!
>>64345923giving every soldier heavy armor only makes sense in a total war scenario because in total war, the solder actually becomes valued.
>>64353884No, it's the opposite. In a total war scenario manpower supply becomes huge (and hence the value goes down), and it may not even be possible to outfit every man with the best. The only calculation that matters is practical, and the practical calculation may consider that losing men is an acceptable cost and resources should be put elsewhere. Meanwhile a first world nation doing oversea adventures will not accept the political cost of losing many men, and will consider an upgrade in personal protection money well spent.
I see a lot of chinks in that armor.
