Why would you buy a pump or a semi when a Benneli M3 can do both?
>>64346787Good morning Saars
>>64346792Hahaha India!
>>64346787Hello saar, it because you can buy better pump and better semi for the same rupees as one of those>>64346792Good morning! :)
>>64346787But anon, I did take the M3pill
>>64346787I have 2 m4s I am a retard
>>64346787>$1,600It should be 800 max, but the semiauto shotgun market has gone retarded. Fucking piece of shit Mossbergs are going for over $1k. All shotguns should be hybrid, the only reason they cheap out is because the dumb consoomers still buy the half performance shotguns.
>>64346787>>64350255Do they have a non gay grip version? I want a traditional style shotty stock.
>>64350745They in fact do
>>64351810>$1,800>crossbolt safetyNah nevermind.
>>64346787Because I can buy a pump made by border hoppers in El Paso that'll have the exact same capability and better reliability for 250 bucks.
>>64353244It's not semiauto. Using a pump shotgun in 2025 is like using a revolver, arcane and has more downsides than ups. Why have only a pump action when various designs exist with a pump and semiauto capability? The gun companies just aren't making them because you're stupid and keep buying cheaped out products. Start refusing to buy things that aren't perfect or at least a good attempt at achieving it. These pump only or semi only shotguns are lacking in useful features that are easy to add to the design, but aren't added because the manufacturer is cheap and the consumer is stupid.
>>64353557What scenario will you ever need to shoot a shotgun faster than you can pump it?
>>64353244Train him/her to be a shoulder cat.
>>64353557semi auto shotguns are a meme and you fucking know it. You are not in Iraq, the door is not wearing sandals and holding an AK. You are a civilian, who MAYBE will shoot at birds once and then give up because your shoulder hurted.
>>64353557ok you can be angry and autistic I will have fun with my IMPERFECT and FLAWED guns
590 gooder
>>64353659Drone coming at you.>>64353685See above, we need to be revisiting and perfecting the shotgun design. There really isn't much else it needs other than pump/semi hybrid capability. Magazine fed is preference, but having to always pump it is retarded and 1800s-esque.
>>64355107Is drone warfare something you expect a civilian need concern themselves with?
>>64355107>perfecting the shotgun designThe shotgun was perfected over a century ago: the O/U double with ejectors.>>but but but the capacity is too low for my larp!that's what a rifle is for, champ.
>>64353557This nigga living in CODConsult the words of the Holy Gunfu Ora/k/le:
>>64353244Nice cat. The border hoppers make a good shotgun, can't say the same about jeets and Sig parts.
semi autos have less recoil which is already a huge improvement. now time for all the "i only own a pump shotgun" teenagers to balk at the fact that i said shotguns have recoil.
>>64353201Did you shit and cry when your dad handed you a 10/22? Who am I kidding? You don't know your father
>>64350743First of all, stop being a broke bitch. Second of all, you know used guns exist? Guns that are barely shot and are damn near pristine? I got my m3 for less than a grand. But I agree with that last part, hybrid is way more fun than semi or pump alone. There's no greater joy than pumping a shotgun before firing off 3 shells rapid fire and confusing everyone on the range
>>64353557>Implying mutilated clay guns are good for le tactical home defense
>>64355107>MUH DRONESWhy do you live in a warzone? Are you brown?
>>64355107>we need to be revisiting and perfecting the shotgun design.the rotating tube mag thing is a good idea and i think it should be expanded upon. take a traditionally-shaped shotgun like the 1301 then give it 4 tubes of 6 or 7 that either rotate manually or through some clever gearing system.magazines for shotguns are just too big for how little capacity you get.
Lol I bought 2 tokarev bullpup 12 ga, what am I in for? Anybody got one?Pic nr
>>64358520>fuddslop shotgun consoomer is too retarded to use googleMany such cases, you'll be dead in a ditch in no time.
>>64350743get a job
>>64358871Guns used to be under $500 not long ago and one being over $1k was rare and laughable. Guns being $2-5k now is a joke. I ain't buying, and crossbolt safeties are for bb guns at most.
>>64360681What's the issue with crossbolt? We're you molested by a crossbolt safety?
>>64360832Requires retraining and can be fudged in a life or death situation. Also kinda stupid that it requires 2 hands to operate.
>>64360681>and one being over $1k was rare and laughableHonest question, anon: Were you born retarded, or was this something that happened later in life?
>>64361059That's literally every safety though. And how tiny are your hands where you can't switch it with your firing hand?
>>64361107Still requires breaking grip and retraining around it. Not a good safety.
>>64361428I donβt think you have guns.
>>64358600Doubt.I did gargle it, I just thought I'd ask /k/Why so angsty? You poor?I'm gonna put a red dot on them and leave them in my cars.
>>64361603You just have no training.
>>64361764>he needed trainingAbsolutely fatherless behavior
>>64361428Crossbolt is better than tang because you can just push it in with your trigger finger. Also if it's on bb guns why would you need to re"train"? Wouldn't tang safeties require retraining?
>>64361802Lots of bolt action guns have them. You should try to keep manual of arms similar between guns for reasons that should be obvious.
>>64358389I did a shotgun course and a guy had one of these, he had the most failures in the class, multiple of which required tools to fix so he would've been out of the fight with that thing. I wouldn't go for it, concept looks good on paper but the thing doesn't run.Only dudes with semi autos had failures btw.
>>64361764You have no guns nigga
>>64361934>he had the most failures in the classi believe it but i also believe he probably tried to cheap out by using target loads or underpowered turkshit ammo. the TS12 is meant for full-power buck.i haven't run my 1301 hard but i also haven't had any malfunctions with it so far.
>>64361677>R U LE HECKIN POOR? YOU NEED TO CONSOOM LE SLOP LIKE ME!
>>64362784Deep seated angst and jealousy, obviously.
Frankly I've never shot a shotgun that I liked better than my Remington Model 11