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Elegant, tasteful edition.

Last month's pistol qual, fabulous prizes were won!
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>>64352927
>open carry is pretty cringe
Reminds me of the time I saw a stainless steel 1911 [undoubtedly a Kimber] on the appendix of a Boomer wearing a sleeveless jacket with the Marine Corps insignia stitched onto it, dismounting his motorcycle that he parked in front of the emergency lane [pictured]. At first, I thought it was a hilariously comical sight but then pondered, "If an indiscriminate shooter enters this store and I neutralise him first, will the Boomer mistake me for the perpetrator and send lead my way?" Crossed paths with him several times throughout the aisles and even left at the same time but I don't think he ever noticed the sperg open carrying a Glock, with a camera phone directly behind him
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So is October's drill seriously jack-o-lantern carving? I'm using .45 for it.
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>last three gun purchases have been entirely soulless, practical choices
The next one HAS to ooze style. I'm hoping for either a Python or Benelli B76
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Anyone have experience with the gen 5 glock 22?
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>>64354056
Open carry is based, and I'm tired of pretending it's not.
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>>64354078
Unless you got a better idea, I want one hole groups, minimum of 7 yards
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>>64354156
I've never seen anyone that I would consider respectable open carrying. It's either some trailer park trash Mexican carrying in a wifebeater or a fat, old boomer with a 1911 on his waist

Maybe if tall, well-deessed, fit men open carried, it would remove the stigma
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>>64353176
Looks like this bit. If the manufacturer won't fix it or at least sell you the part, and I think they will, you can always ebay the parts you need. Ebay is bad ass for used parts.
https://ebay.us/m/b04D5N
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Got a spare 19.3 frame with no slide I need to do something with. I was gonna buy an OEM one, but does anybody have experiences with aftermarket shit like Arc Division, Angled Spade, Zev, etc and think they're actually worth it? It all seems like overpriced reddit faggotry to me, but maybe I'm missing something.
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>>64354056
>>64354156
>>64354181
One time, I was at the local taco truck and a burgundy Buick Rendezvous rolls up with a fat woman driving. A slightly less fat glasses wearing beardo in denim shorts, slides with white tube socks and some kind of black military t-shirt gets out of the passenger seat open carrying a Beretta 92 of some sort. I almost keked myself to death.
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>>64354181
Well... now you have.
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>>64354232
>Tucking your t-shirt into your jeans.
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>>64354210
Idk what any of those boutiquey brands do better than a regular slide from Brownells. Also, Glock is now selling MOS Gen 3 slides if you want an OEM one.
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>>64354248
Gotta make sure people see the piece so they know I’m hardcore
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>>64354248
>things respectable white men do
Your brown is showing.
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>>64354211
Kek, if only you had snapped a pic
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i finally found a Kahr T9
its en route to FFL now
i'm still an empty hollowed out shell of my former self but this purchase gives me a slight taste of joy
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>>64354078
Well, this one looks the most doable.

Printable target?
https://mondaymandala.com/wp-content/uploads/Big-Grin-Jack-O-Lantern-Pumpkin-Stencil.pdf
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>>64354252
Aside from some neat porting options, probably not much. Just curious if anybody had tried any. Probably going to stick with OEM, don't feel like spending $600+ on just a slide and barrel.
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>>64354264
I wear a tucked in shirt with a collar 99% of the time, like an adult white man. It does make concealing a pistol a bit of a challenge, but at least I don't look like I take a woman to Applebee's for a "fancy" date.
You're a slob and it's showing.
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>>64354271
Yeah, a real missed opportunity. I should have been obvious about it.
>Sorry man, no one would believe me if I didn't get a pic.
Kek
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>>64354297
I wear oxford shirts and slacks for my job which makes it very hard to conceal but in my free time I wear baggy shirts which drape off of my shoulders which makes concealing a breeze
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>>64354271
>Kahr T9
Red pill me on Kahr. All I know is they are DOA, single stack and made by Moonies.
>i'm still an empty hollowed out shell of my former self
Bro, WTF happened?
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>>64354232
good lord won't someone just suck his dick already so he can stop acting like such a fucking queer?
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>>64354302
I love Oxford shirts because they don't need a lot of ironing and they are pretty tough. Also, the collar buttons keep you looking sharp.
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>>64354318
Look how dirty the knees on his jeans are. He's clearly the one doing the sucking.
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>>64354329
well yeah he probably doesn't go a day without respecting the thin blue line, but homeboy needs to get his or he winds up like.... that
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>>64354309
they are kinda strange but neat little guns. striker fired, but the trigger feels like a very nice DA revolver. the steel frame ones are really nice, the polymer ones i dunno. generally their reputation on the internet is extremely mixed, many old-timers love and swear by them, others absolutely despise them. the moonie affiliation triggers r*ddit faggots, i think cause the moonie church (Rod of Iron) is ultra based so there's that.
i just have one Kahr so far (K9) and its been an excellent pistol. reliable, shoots well, and its so sexy i wanna fuck it. the T9 has been my grail gun for a few years now. they're very hard to find and come up online rarely. i finally got one so i'm pretty pumped
>Bro, WTF happened?
bro. i spent 10 years getting a bachelors, masters and doctorate from one of the top 10 american public universities thats basically worthless. i followed my passion like a retard and now im literally a basement dwelling neet. i'm pretty sure all my old libfag colleagues and professors hate me cause i didnt get the shot, or participate in any "orange man bad" struggle sessions, or play along with the floyd nonsense, and i pretty much got "outed" as redpilled so i'm basically blacklisted from the industry. i'll probably never work in higher ed, i tried teaching k-12 and it was an absolutely nightmare, so now i'm just trying to find a job that doesnt make me want to kms. but its not all bad i guess, i'll be alright, genuinely thanks for asking
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>>64354378
If you're ever near Harrisburg, PA, I'll buy you a beer, Anon
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>>64354378
What's the difference between the T9 and the K9? I've never shot one, but I have handled them and they feel like they are well made, even the plastic ones. I didn't care for the trigger, but some people genuinely do like DOA guns, so there must be something to it.
Being principled sucks sometimes, but you did the right thing. Having a degree is pretty powerful, even if it the job isn't related to your field. I have 2 associates in technical feilds and I have had a lot of doors slammed on my because I didn't have a BA, even if it was in gender studies or whatever. The thing is to get into a job and try to move up in that company while still looking for a better job. The worst thing in an interview is explaining any gap. It's better to say
>I took that shit job because I needed to work
Than
>I couldn't find work
Plus, it sounds like you need to get out of the house.
>genuinely thanks for asking
No problem. You sounded like you needed to unload some shit and I can relate. I lost my best job I ever had and had to move back home after 25+ years of independence just to stop the bleeding. I'm employed again, but for much less money in a much worse position at a much worse company. It sucks, but I embellished the shit out of my current position on my resume and I'm still looking. I'm sure things will get better for me and I am sure they will get better for you, IF you work on it.
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>>64354441
thanks anon, funny enough i'll be moving to NE PA if this job i'm interviewing for works out. i keep an eye out for northeast k discord channels but i never see them posted and i dont want to ask and get called a glowie. i was on a new england k discord for a while but i lost my login info lol
>>64354455
T9 is literally just the K9 with a half inch longer barrel and a slightly longer grip. it's considered the "full size" kahr which is fun cause it's still smoler than a glock 48
sounds like you got it pretty rough too. good to remind myself that my situation isnt unique or even that bad and really i'm doing alright cause i actually do have a pretty good job (part-time but a good title) so i'm not really a full NEET and i've been working on building that into a full time career. it could work out. but fuck i'm so burnt out, i gave it everything i could in grad school, and i technically did well "academically" and have great credentials on paper. but internally i got hollowed out, the blackpills starting around 2018-19 just became too much to take. once i got publicly me-too'd and a bunch of my former colleagues who had been my good friends spoke up to support the accuser's made up story and i almost checked myself out early. whatever, i'm over that now and trying to just get some kind of life going. not a lot to look forward to these days but you just trudge on ya dig
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People are honestly crazier than you think. I remember when I worked in armored car and was trying to deliver change to the manager of a barnes and noble. He made me wait for like 15 minutes which was frustrating in and of itself, and then when he came back he was screaming at the top of his lungs and chucked a phone at the wall. I was like I'm out, I'm not servicing you. And he's like the harry potter release is tomorrow, as if I gave a fuck. And then he circled my van threatening me and wouldn't let me get back inside while I had my Glock 19 pointed at him and kept telling him to back away no less, and he only backed off when I said I would shoot him if he didn't let me back in my armored vehicle. There are people that snap for no reason and I don't understand it.
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>>64354232
Goddamn I love Arkansas.
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>can't order from S&W on my phone because their website doesnt render the "checkout" button properly on my phone browser
Its been downhill since Web 2.0 20 years ago.
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>>64354669
Things started to go to shit about the time CS Source and Steam came out, honestly.
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Is the Glock 47 that much better than a G45?
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>>64354669
Finally made that shit happen.

Does /hg/ use red dots on the CC pistols?
I've been having a bad experience with a red dot getting loose constantly on my full size 9mm and its killing me inside.
About to glue that shit down with some E6000 or Permatex gasket-maker.
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>>64354709
Whoops replied to myself

Also how do we feel about pistol compensators on a threaded barrel?
Thinking about it but I might just carry without the threaded barrel
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>>64354773
The viridian RFX that came stock on my hellcat has not come loose yet so I'm sure it's possible to make them stay on.

It's probably a screw problem. Shit metallurgy becomes more prominent as part size decreases and red dot screws are tiny.
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>>64354790
Honestly considering the ACRO just because the rails are better.
Those tiny screws are fucking BULLSHIT and we all know it.
Only problem is Id have to attach an ACRO adapter plate with just goes back to the original problem.
I'm probably just going to bed them with a drop of E6000 or some gasketmaker or whatever.
My full size 9 is different because there's no optics cut holding the front and back in place just an open plate on the slide.
I just don't want to waste another $300 on a fuckin goose chase mane, I'll glue that shit and when I'm done years from now ill trash the optic who cares.
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>>64354809
I'd like to recommend the same place I always go when I just need 2 screws but I need to know exactly what I'm getting: McMaster.
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>>64354918
The screws Holosun ships with keep getting loose brother its killing me spiritually.
I just want to shoot my full size 9 but its turning into an arts and crafts project from Hell.
I'm using VC-3 over loctite and I'm even going to plop on a drop of E6000.
If this doesn't work I'm just going back to Irons in defeat with my tail tucked.
I've wasted more money trying to fix this than is reasonable
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Do you guys think it would be hard to find an old S&W model 49, with the blued steel and wood grips? I can't seem to find any online but there are a half dozen gun stores within just a short drive. Should I just ask one of the clerks to try and find one for me if nobody is sitting on one? I've never gone looking for anything that's not able to be ordered or picked up on the spot.
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Been busy
What did I miss guys?
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>>64355048
What's your price limit? Trying to find a specific old gun through in person gun stores is a fruitless endeavour. The cheapest I can see is 500 but it's got a little rust and putting here and there.
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>>64355139
Pitting*
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>>64355048
https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/revolvers/smith-wesson-revolvers-model-48/smith-wesson-49-38-s-w.cfm?gun_id=103252385
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>>64355178
I will, I’m raising a baby kitten and working on a project Mauser and tuning my manurhin. But I’ll do it next time.

380 PPK works best with a 17 lb spring and Norma JHPs btw
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>>64354113
how bout a rhino?
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>>64355227
>kitten
Congrats!
>project Mauser
Going to bed the stock yourself, eh? Good luck
>tuning my manurhin
You mean like timing the cylinder?
>17 lb spring and Norma JHPs
Very good and I see you've acquired a new automatic

Also, Bezos had the PPK's removed from James Bond posters. Didn't even replace it with a two-way radio, he's just fisting the air now
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Actually
Idk if to use the bulldog or Tisas for the challenge: tisas is historically like the GI challenge but bulldog is lighter and less shakes/fatigue plus no zeroing needed

Also physical therapy anon if you’re here: I keep hurting my ankles in my daily mile run. Is there some cheap gear I can get?
I got some knee wraps and they stopped knee stress.
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>>64355345
>remove PPK
Is this for real?!
>cylinders
It’s a 1959 Manurhin PPK in 9 corto. The post war counterpart to my 32 ZM PPK. springs are more finicky than 32, too much and cycling is impaired, too little and slide gets beat. 17 with moderately hot but sub +p is ideal. It recoils about the same as buffalo bore in my ZM.
Which is moderately and proved all the hand biting, palm bleeding memes about the 380 PPK are exaggerated bullshit.
> Mauser
A shitty Mauser DA 90, a failed attempt at competing with the beretta 92 by crossing the sw39 fire control with a browning. The trigger is surprisingly decent and I may replace my SA-35 with it.

I should buy a Swedish Mauser though.
>congrats
I love that kitten and she follows me around like a duckling
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>>64355348
>this for real?!
Unfortunately so
>1959 Manurhin PPK
>Mauser DA 90
Oh, so that's what's in the image you posted there. Exposed myself as a handgunlette again!
>she follows me around
Very cute– it's later for you than me but I'm calling it a night. God be with you attempting the /hg/ qual with anything less than combat sights and a firm support hand. Also, my real moniker was exposed and Fox Friday is kaput

Goodnight and sweet dreams, pardner~
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>>64355139
I think $500 is quite fair for something so specific, but I am worried about rust spreading inside and making it difficult to clean - though at this vintage I am probably going to just have to accept that. Appreciate the link!
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>>64355447
>Fox Friday is kaput
Tfw
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Thinking about the PX4C, going to try to find a shop that'll let me test it. Anyone with experience? I have quite large hands, but I want something carry that isn't stupid heavy
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>>64355626
probably the greatest handgun ever designed IMO

shoots retardedly good
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>>64355633
It’s rather fat for concealment. Also older berettas looked prettier
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>>64355626
It’s an entirely mediocre gun with a overall poor grip texture that’s very slippy, pokey slide safeties that are overly sharp, and needs about $500 in upgrades to be the gun this asshole >>64355633
is dick riding. It doesn’t have the capacity of smaller more modern guns either, and the ones in .45 are a joke, being overly expensive and only holding 9 or 10 rounds max with no magazine extensions ever created, oh and they collectively can’t be suppressed because they’ll unscrew the suppressor with every shot.
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>>64355705
You make it sound like a cyberpunk equivalent to the makarov
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>>64355712
It basically is, it’s a forgettable plastic gun the should sell for under $300, but doesn’t.
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>>64355705
suppressing a handgun is a huge meme
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>>64355714
no matter how much you repeat this it won't make it true
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>>64355724
That’s not an argument. And I can’t repeat myself if that’s the first time I said it.

>>64355717
Maybe you tell yourself that if you’re in a ban state or poor.
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>>64355738
>Maybe you tell yourself that if you’re in a ban state or poor.
it's not quiet, the handgun is no longer usable as a handgun, and the novelty wears off. Maybe if I had a locked breech handgun with a slide lock device it would be different or integrally suppressed .22 but it's a meme for 9mm or larger.
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>>64354378
ice is hiring. take out that rage on your former classmates homie.
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>>64354041
Okay i'll admit it. I want that 17L in the worst way.
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>>64354778
>replied to myself
No, you didn't.
>Also how do we feel about pistol compensators on a threaded barrel?
Not great, tbqh.
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>>64354918
>McMaster
>You may find better, but you won't find more expensive
But seriously, they do have the most high quality tools and materials available.
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So i am the proud owner of two type 54 Toks.

They are brand new, powder coated and everything. Got them from PSA and they look and feel like they were acid washed. How do i fix that?

Should i use brass wool to clean them up and fix them? If i had a tumbler i'd disassemble them
and roll them for a hour in sand, they don't feel right. The last one i had was 50+ years old, these new ones don't feel right.
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>>64355227
>baby kitten
Based (post pics)
>Mauser
Based
>manurhin
Based
Yeah, I'm thinking based.
Anon, I like your style.
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>>64355385
>moderately hot but sub +p is ideal.
I shit thee not, steel cased Eastern European stuff is a good option here. It's hotter than most Western made stuff and it's cheap, or it was, anyway. It works on my machine, but blow back guns are super picky about ammo, so YMMV. Still, it's worth looking into if you haven't already. I really wish that stupid war would end so we can get cheap Russian ammo back.
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>>64355385
>Mauser DA 90,
I had the FEG version in very good condition, which I stupidly sold with several of the rare ass magazines. I regret it and it's the last gun I sold.
Mega cute kot. I love black kots and I have had a few.
Happy Halloween, lil girl!
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>>64355447
>Fox Friday
What was that? I've been away from the thread for the summer.
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>>64355717
>suppressing a handgun is a huge meme
It so totally is. I wish I bought a rifle suppressor instead of a pistol one.
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>>64355879
If you do decide to attempt to improve the finish, I'd try a test patch somewhere it won't be seen, like under the grips. The texture may be coming from the condition of the metal under the powder coating.
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>>64355965
The last one i had the finish was nearly gone and was almost polished with how beat up and worn it was. These feel like they just came off the factory line.

How do i fix them? I'm thinking a brillo pad to take off the surface finish, a bit of brass wool and some 800 grit paper and a Wolff spring replacement for the recoil springs. Where the slide and frame meet it has a almost perfect match, it sounds like knives being sharpened against each other.

I need to fix it, it isn't beat up enough to be reliable.
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>>64355965
>>64356083
>>64355965
It may seem counterintuitive but normally the more beat up a Tok is the more reliable and functional it is. New ones need at least a decade of abuse before you can trust them.
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Having installed a Glock 20 spring to my 17 just to have the slide feel right and replacing the "connector" to unfuck the trigger, I regret ever endorsing Gen3 though trust nobody actually purchased one after any recommendations from me which I don't recall ever making

>>64355477
Your 14 was in the final collage BTW
https://i.4cdn.org/k/1758860236645636.jpg

>>64355951
Just some /arg/ thing, don't worry about it
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>>64355879
>>64356102
How does the Type 54 compare to the Zastava M60?
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>>64355705
>oh and they collectively can’t be suppressed because they’ll unscrew the suppressor with every shot
Why do people say shit like this when we all know they're LARPers and don't need a suppressor for anything?
>nah bruh it doesn't suit my needs for when I run a suppressor while I'm operating in the little outside area of my apartment.
Shut the fuck up lol
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>>64354441
Harrisburg anon I will buy you a beer.
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Anyone who happens to have a Strike Industries Glock 19 slide, are they worth it at all? The stripped thing costs as much as a complete OEM, but I do like that its optic ready. I don't get why they don't sell a complete one.
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>>64355705
Works on my machine. Only upgrade i got was an optic cut slide.
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>>64356582
That's very kind of you, thank you! I'll get you the waitress's number in exchange

This coming weekend is my last chance to shoot before the wife and I go to Italy for a month so you best believe I'm gonna sling a lot of brass downrange
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>>64355705
most of that is weird nitpicking but i agree the grip is hopelessly shit.
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>>64354041

What does /k/ think of the possibility of a .22 frt handgun for self defense? Sure it has less stopping power per bullet, but you can probably shove 20-24 rounds into a compact or semi-compact sized handgun for CC and it would have minimal recoil with less hearing damage if used in a self defense scenario.

Pic semi related, american 180
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Beretta has some rebates going on right now. Looking at buying one of these 92s. Any anons with a preference?
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>>64356985
Do not get that taurus
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>>64357057

Are you telling me Taurus made a .22 frt handgun
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>>64357078
Oh, i thought thats what you were talking about. Someone made a trigger for a .22 taurus, forget which model. They're shit. Do not redeem
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>>64357088
Noguns faggot. TX22 is one of the most reliable .22s ever made.
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>>64357092
Good morning saar
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>>64357088

No I was just talking about in general. My daily carry is a cz 75 compact. 15+1 and a steel frame I figured it could probably hold 24+ .22lr and with the steel frame even the 9mm recoil is minimal so shooting .22 there'd be literally no recoil. Made me wonder if it'd be more effective in actual self defense scenarios to hit someone with one or rounds of 9mm or 10-15 .22 rounds. Plus just the full auto sound would probably have a huge demoralization effect and make most people just run even if you panicked and missed your shots
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>>64355464
That was a different kind anon but the same one I was talking about, gunsinternational has other more expensive ones but they either still have rust or extensive surface wear. Good luck
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Any hi-point chads here?
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>>64357106
Well, if you want to carry a FRTized .22 then I suppose thats up to you. It's the one >>64357092 mentioned. I think the store is called freedom triggers or something. Check the FRT thread thats up and you should see it.
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>>64357101
>can't even keep his dumbfuck noguns memes straight
You will never fit in here.
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>>64357243
>reeee noguns noguns noguns
I see you learned a new word. Welcome new friend
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how do i get gun bunnies?
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>>64357298
>How do I get [women]
Step 1: Be attractive
Step 2: Don't be unattractive
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>>64354378
Literally me anon, but I stopped at my masters and went on to work at law enforcement
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>>64357375
It's over....
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>>64357387
You'll probably not be surprised to hear that law enforcement and early childhood special education are shockingly similar.
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Finally got down to the accuracy problem I have with my 'retta. For some reason I started shooting like shit, allways pulling low and left, and couldn't get tighter than 8-6 inch at 7yrds.

They I started repeating, like a mantra: "stance breathing sights grip finger" then after shooting "1-2-3". Shoot a whole box like that, also disregarding the instructor advice on gripping harder with my left and letting my right sorta loose, I shot like it felt natural to me, high grip with both thumbs "sticking out" to avoid touching the slide release. Ban, amazing groups again, right on at about 4-inch at 10yds, and I could even shoot the 8 inch plate rack at the end of the lane no problem. Also did some warm up with my Ruger Mk3 sighting in the new red-dot so that might helped a bit.
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>>64357441
floaty thumbs? welcome to the club, completely changed how I shot and became a major breakthrough moment for me
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>>64357437
They are, my friends's sister worked works with kids and she derogatorily calls the school she works at by the name of our local detention center for kids. Bear in mind I'm talking about a particularly violent 3rd world country, and many kids (say, up to 11y.o.) in public schools are basically criminals.
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>>64357467
So you don't do thumbs stacked and forward? You just let em hang?
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>>64357494
left thumb is pointed forward inline with frame but not on it, right thumb is pointed in the air forward at a ~45 degree angle not on the gun or the other hand
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>>64357441
Based 'rettaking
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>>64357514
Does it lock back the slide if you put them on the gun?
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>>64357565
sometimes if I fuck up the draw
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I think I did good
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>>64357619
Well you got most of your shots on target
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>>64357671
Well I'll admit that the 638 is one of the toughest firearms to shoot in my entire collection
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>>64357441
What would Douki-chan think of your 'retta?
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>>64354378
I'm no US person being a euro but with a PhD under Trump can't you find a non-woke job ? I mean maybe related to intelligence, police, military, or else ? Or anything else in a conservative/rightwing kinda sphere ?
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>>64357689
Yeah long heavy revolver triggers are a beast to get good with. I wish I had a shrouded hammer j frame like you but I can't justify it when I have a perfectly serviceable 640
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>>64357619
Better than me that's for sure
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>>64357000
Been eyeballing that too for the M9s. Inherited a 96A1 so I'm not sure if it's worth it
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>spend the weekend replaying Half-Life 2
>reaffirming my love and desire for a USP Match that I've had for 20 years now
Anyone else's one true love unobtanium?
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>>64357619
Is the trigger pull on a double action snub like this the same as the pull on a double action full size like a Model 10?
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>>64355791
honestly considering it at this point
>>64357764
maybe, i'd feel dumb trying to parlay a music phd into government or police fields. maybe it could work. might be worth a shot i guess
>>64357387
good for you anon, you like the police work? and what was your degree field? wondering if that kind of lateral move is possible for me with music degrees lol
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>>64358002
USCIS is hiring people to play "Paper's Please" IRL where you get to reject visas all day
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Are revolvers less harsh on red dots because there's no slide reciprocating? Like a 357 revolver wouldn't be any worse on a dot than a 10mm semi auto right?
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>>64358448
I guess that makes sense, but you're probably splitting hairs. Red dots from reputable manufacturers don't fail a ton these days, and it's hard to argue that one that does indeed fail would have necessarily survived being put on a revolver instead of a semi-auto.
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>>64358545
>rejecting visas is fascist
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fuck
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1127836561
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>>64358545
Fascist goon could be a great career
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>>64358545
we love gooning
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remember when the leftoid biden apologist just refused to post groups for three threads straight? lol
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>trying to decide on a 9mm
>constantly between a modern strikerslop or a vintage da/sa
>start leaning towards strikerslop
>look up videos of it on YouTube
>tons of nogs just “flexing their piece”
>instantly have absolutely no desire to own one
I think I should just buy something I think is cool even if it’s a little less functional.
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>>64358583
Is this your first gun? What are you buying it for?
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>>64358583
nigs flex ferraris, but that doesn't mean I'd refuse to drive one
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>>64357441
Grip changes improving your shooting are a symptom of poor trigger control. Dry fire more. You should be able to pull the trigger with zero perceptible front sight movement whether you're gripping with recoil mitigating firmness or loose slow fire shooting letting the gun move. Single handed, you should grip tight, then back off until you can move your ring and small finger off the grip.

>>64358545
Calling things that are clearly not fascist in any way fascist is the fastest way to make the people you disagree with choose to become actual fascists. Enforcing immigration laws and not letting anyone with a pulse come dilute the value of the working class's labor is not fascist. It's actual pro working class.
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>>64358590
I have pretty much every gun I want except a go-to full size or compact 9mm.
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>>64358569
That back and forth was obnoxious as fuck at the time and it's obnoxious for you to bring it up like anyone gives a fuck
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>>64358612
What's your budget? What are your favorite guns and why?
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>>64357619
>>64357671
>>64357689
>>64357787
Making me feel better about my learning curve with a model 36
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>>64356965
Hell yeah. Enjoy. If you end up going to the carlisle range, don’t be a stranger.
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>>64358676
I actually live on the West (white) Shore. I've been looking for a new range but they're all either a bit of a drive or a bit too fudd-y for my taste
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>>64358626
Post your groups.
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>>64354378
>chud getting his just due
Cry me a river
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>>64355117
Who’d you bet on?
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>>64358583
You’re weak minded
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>>64358820
>>64358873
>>64358889
Lick my nuts samefag
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Had pneumonia for like two months so I wasn't going to the range, I didn't wanna breathe in any shit. Excited to go back tomorrow.
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>>64358820
I am gonna give you one response. That other tard you were bickering with was just as annoying by keeping your wheels spinning and contriving reasons not to post his groups, dunno why you two were even at it, whole thing was juvenile and a pain to read or see. Annoying to see you bring it up here unprompted like an own because you are insecure and crave validation from strangers, so I told you and am telling you it is obnoxious baby behavior and was the whole time.
Let's do this
>Assume I am a poor shooter of slightly below average talent
>Assume you are an above average shooter
>Not continue this little exchange
Because
>I don't photograph my groups, because I am not insecure and do not crave validation from strangers
>I go to the range once a month, and will not remember you when I go, or this interaction, and will not take the opportunity to document my skill, which is really just about average based on what I see other anons post here
>Even if my groups are superior to yours and I prove it, I am not a twelve year old, direction-brained, insecure little tard, so I know it has no bearing on whether I am 'right' or 'wrong', which this isn't even about
Because
>You are annoying, and kind of sad, and I replied at all because I thought it might shame you into being less of an annoying tard instead of realizing you would just resort to the only thing you have.

You will get no more (You)s from (Me) and sincerely I hope you reconsider the way you interact online. This is my vent after cringing past your slop for three threads. This is also a genuine, albeit strained and indelicate, attempt to break through to you and encourage you to develop a thicker skin, to ditch the compulsive need to be seen or superior, and to be constructive with others instead of a complete fucking drag for everyone else.
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>>64354378
1) dont despair
2) get involved in local politics
3) a job will find you
I was in your shoes, dont let the assholes slow you down
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could they not have made this rail 2mm longer wtf
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>>64359221
thanks anon
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>>64359203
you should post groups dude
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>Blessed to live far enough out of the city to go outside and shoot my carry gun whenever I get the urge to
>Cursed living close enough that they are able to hear the BOOM but no PLINK from the target when I miss the steel
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>>64358556
holy fuck i didnt realize these things go for $7,000, thats hk p7 money
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>>64359246
Why would they do that?
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>>64359246
why?
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>>64357787
I bought my 638 because my dad recommended me one, it's the gun he used to carry back in the 1990s when Florida was shall issue CCW license only
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>>64354271
Strange choice but yet again I bought a Glock 17 Gen 5 partially because I'm feeling the blues too.
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>>64355345
Wow that's fucking gay
That's like taking Luke's lightsaber out of the original Star Wars poster.
I hate how gay our world is getting.
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>>64357982
I wanna say it's a little tougher than a Model 10, thing is that my Model 10 is well over or close to 40 years old now
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If I am going to carry a 22lr, and don't want a revolver, which gun should I get? I am debating between the Taurus TX22 and the Keltec P17, but if a better option is out there I am open to other options.
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>>64357601
>>64357514
this happened to me a bunch in my last IDPA competition. Made me look like a retard. What pistol do you have? 92FS as well?

>>64357704
She'd think it's scary at first but after showing it to her and how it works she'd start to like it and ask me to bring her to the range next time.

>>64358611
My problem is that my hands are huge, the 92FS is actually a big small for me. My finger naturally rests in the middle phalanx closer to the proximal joint if I grip it "properly", I have to do some fucked up semi-sideways grip to get my finger in the right position (distal phalanx near the joint on that little bone bump) that leaves a finger wide gap between my palm and the right-most grip panel. I'm buying some hogue grips, maybe that will help a bit.
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>>64359497
Why?

>>64359508
I do it with all my guns, PX4, 92, 2011, etc. Lately with my PX4 compact I've been doing it but I'm chasing sub 1s draw from concealment so I'm really aggressive on the draw and that's when it happens. It's especially bad with the PX4 since the slide release is so protruding, it's when my support hand misses the index and slides upwards.
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>>64359497
>If I am going to carry a 22lr
That is a bad idea
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>>64359529
Shooting in flip flops increases speed/accuracy. No, you aren’t allowed to hop around if hot brass lands on your foot
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>>64359508
>>64359529
I don’t actually have any idea on how to stop it other than going slower on the draw for a better grip. Ben talks about doing that, Vogel would do that too, where you get a good grip on the gun instead of chasing speed so you can shoot the entire stage with a good grip.
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>>64359497
I just bought the new bobcat from Beretta, and I like it a lot, but I wouldn't suggest it as a carry gun. I have heard nothing but good things about the TX22 from a friend that has one, and while normally I would never suggest a Taurus over a Beretta, I think this might be the one place where I do. Maybe look for a .22 derringer of some kind? I'm not gonna wade into a caliber war, if you've concluded that .22 is what you wanna protect yourself with I think there are plenty of reasons to do so that are fine - but I will say that totally aside from the penetration aspect or any of that, I noticed .22lr ammo and rimfire in general is way more liable to be defective, and so if you are sure this is your move, a revolver would be the smartest way to EDC it, and failing that, you definitely cannot afford the risk of being cheap on the ammo - you gotta get the top quality stuff to minimize the risk of duds, and that doesn't even mitigate it completely.
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>>64359497
why don't you just tickle your opponent?
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>>64359532
>>64359529
I have severely damaged wrists and even 380 is painful. I bought a Smith EZ and while I can manipulate it, i cant stand to shoot more than 20 or 30 rounds. 32ACP works pain wise, I have a Beretta Tomcat, but it is too expensive for me to practice enough to be proficient in. 22LR is just the best option for me. I can afford it, I can manipulate the controls, and it doesn't hurt to shoot. 22 Mag is another option, but I don't want a revolver as the triggers are too heavy and I don't want to be limited to 6 or 7 rounds and a nearly impossible stressed reload for me. On top of that 22 Mag pistols are just too big and not concealable.
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>>64359806
that sucks anon. well semiauto 22 pistols are always going to be a mixed bag for reliability. the glock 44 might be a good bet since it has the same footprint as a compact glock, so it'll be easier to treat as a defensive pistol (carrying, mounting a light/optic, etc.). whatever you get make sure you run a lot of ammo through it to figure out what runs best in it.
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>>64359806
also, the youtube channel luckygunner is now doing a series on 22 pistols. they're pretty thorough in their testing and evaluation so it might be of big help
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I just got a Glock 17 Gen 5 and I am amazed at how well it fits in my hand.
Just as good as a Beretta 92 and a VP9
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what is the minimum capacity necessary for conceal carry?
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>>64359846
Unironically, 5.
>t. Proud J frame CCW carrier for 5 years
I finally upgraded to a S&W shield plus after my first upgrade, the P365, was stolen
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>>64359806
Get the Taurus TX22, people put FRTs on them and they rip so that's how you know they're reliable

>>64359829
don't get the glock 44, it sucks
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>>64359852
I just saw someone use it at my usual range today, I thought it was the balding asshat with the Uzi until I saw that it was a different guy with a FRT TX22
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>>64359846
unless you have a crystal ball that shows you the future, there is no way to definitively answer this question. it could be anything from:
>0 (you drew firearm and it deterred attacker)
>1 (1 shot stopped attacker or made them flee)
>2 (the first shot was ineffective)
>3 (the first two shots were ineffective)
...etc. up to:
>15+ (facing multiple armed, determined attackers who are not deterred by returning fire, yes this is rare but it does happen)
so carry the most you can comfortably carry within program compliance and yes the 5-shot snubby in your pocket is always better than the fullsize handgun you left at home

>inb4 """but MOST DGUs are 3 yards 3 shots 3 swinging dicks""" etc etc etc fuck off statisticfaggots can blow me
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>>64359882
Personally it's all about where you're going, when you're going, and if you're willing to go all the way with a IWB or be lazy and pocket carry.
Or just OC if you're going into the woods or you know people wont bitch if you do
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>>64356985
I could barely hit shit all with 25 rounds at 10ish yards. Obviously the videos one handed but even with two hands at 5 yards I was aiming at the lowest part of the paper and putting the majority of shots at the top of the paper, and the rest over it. The FFT frt works REAL well though, had 2 agula ammo related malfunctions in like... 400 rounds? Very fun little giggle gun.

>>64359846
The only recorded instances of people dying from not having enough ammo I've heard of has been one guy with one of those 6 round glocks like the 43 or something who died after an attempted car jacking, and another guy with a 5 round revolver outside a bar. So the number is more than 6+1.
Don't listen to the revolver guys coping about their obsolete guns, even the bodyguard 2.0 holds 10+1 in your pocket.
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I think I finally installed my dot properly the slide is sitting in my safe unmolested for the next week.
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>>64359895
>takes a speed loader or two.
Ok now what?
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>>64359895
there was that guy who got car jacked and tried to shoot the guy in his truck with his .22 lr revolver who was then later ran over with his own truck. .22 Lr doesn't go through glass well
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>>64359895
Whoops video didn't upload because file size was too big. Here is the severely trimmed version.
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>>64359902
"HEY PAUSE PAUSE I SAID PAUSE!! TIME OUT! I GOTTA RELOAD HEY HEY STOP SHOOTING THATS NOT FAIR!"

Yeah sure the gun you're reccomending is bulkier bigger takes longer AND is more finicky to reload and also holds less than half the rounds, but at least it cost $200 more too.
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>>64359806
I feel like getting a 20x or 21a to train on and then carrying the bobcat wouldn't be that crazy since they're all similar size, but I don't know if the trigger weights are all the same. Also if you're able to try a bodyguard 2.0 definitely shoot one as it's not a straight blowback and the big grip makes it comfy to shoot, but without the tomcats heavy double action. The safety is shit but you can just carry it like a normal striker fired. 380 isn't as bad as 32 in terms of cost.
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>>64359943
And then carrying the tomcat*
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>>64359806
The new sig lux is maybe made for you and only you and maybe my grandma. https://youtu.be/GLT53lG6cYw?si=SED7vwOK-Di-jSf9
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>>64359932
First of all, I like to pocket carry a 638, which is a S&W J frame
Second of all, I'm swapping to a S&W shield plus once my holsters arrive and I put in a good 200+ more rounds to get that last bit of practice
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>>64359947
>>64359806

https://youtu.be/w2lIonrwqlo?si=hh2HOlchvOXtkOl0

If you can't afford this, or if 380 still seems too tough than the 22lr tx 22 compact may be your only option. I love both of mine and have thousands and thousands of rounds through them. I bought mine because my buddy has maybe 10k rounds through his without an issue that wasnt cheap ammo related. Oh, and the mags are also super easy to load which seems like a BIG plus for your individual needs.
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>>64359953
Sorry I'm very tired and was rude.

Not carrying something until you practice and are confident with it is a great thing. I get terrified when i shoot at indoor ranges and see the types of groups that people put down and then they holster the gun and carry it. If you can't group well on paper in the ideal environment with good lighting, how will you hit a moving target with poor lighting on the most stressful night of your life?

Go out there and practice anons!
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>>64359846
I don't think there is a real minimum. Even a 2 shot derringer is better than not having it. But, I'd rather have a 5 shot revolver, minimum.
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>>64359957
I've wanted a 365 for a while but I feel weird giving SIG money at this point
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>>64354378
>bro. i spent 10 years getting a bachelors, masters and doctorate from one of the top 10 american public universities thats basically worthless. i followed my passion like a retard and now im literally a basement dwelling neet.
NTA but I feel your pain. I didn't follow my passion but I'm still stuck in the same neet basement situation as you after getting a degree without the job. I hope we get out of this someday soon. Nobody should face this much pain
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>>64359864
>>64359852
Anyone know if the compact is as reliable as the full size? I was more interested in the compact.
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>>64359990
Then don't Sig doesn't your money
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I've got a P365 but never carry it because with my holster the grip sandpapers my skin
what's a good ccw holster for it?
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>>64359966
I've put 220 rounds through my shield.
And I'm putting 250+ minimum soon.
So far I have only had one jam after 120 rounds with one magazine
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I wanna like the HK CC9 but it doesn't have any of the HK charm
just looks like a shameless rip off of the 365
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A gun I bought used accidentally got under my mattress about a week ago and I’ve had nightmares every night for the last few days.

The gun is haunted isn’t it.
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>>64360102
It's not made in Deustchland, so I'm not interested
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Just finished picking all of the lint and dead skin cheese off my Sheild and holster
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Why are Rock Island revolvers so fucking cheap? Any anons here own one, or know someone that does?
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>>64360261
because they're made in a place where the average salary is $100 a month
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>>64357000
Beretta manufacturing quality is in the toilet lately. Something to do with losing the DoD contract. The rebates aren't a coincidence and it doesn't matter if it's made in Italy, it's still going to have corners cut
>>64357400
Be attractive doesn't mean be physically attractive. I look like shit but have been approached by many much younger women who are objectively out of my league and my best guess is that it just comes down to not being a cowering pussy
>>64357975
CZ 97b is discontinued so yes
>>64358448
My guess would be more harsh due to the recoil impulse not being dispersed, in the same way a pump-action shotgun is harder in the shoulder than an autoloader
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>>64360261
because they are rough as fuck and rated for 38 special. just 38 special not p,+p or 357. they can use cheaper steel.
they work. its a utilitarian gun.
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>>64357975
It’s not unobtainable, you just need a USP.
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I wish handgunhero had a “find gun with similar dimensions” feature. The Taurus PT111 G2 fits my hand perfectly but I’d like something slightly thinner and lighter with an optic cut and ambi controls. And of course not made by favela monkeys.
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I'm thinking about getting a magnum revolver. Probably S&W or Colt, maybe a Ruger.
I've fired a .357 magnum before, I think it was a Taurus with a 6" barrel, but I was also looking at .44 magnum.
To be honest I'll probably end up with both eventually, but which should I get first? And any specific model suggestions?
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>>64358002
>honestly considering it at this point
check out the sign up bonus and what's happening in portland. federal boogaloo.
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>>64360615
I would suggest a S&W 686 or Ruger GP100 in 4 or 6 inches.
The reason is because .357 is a lot less brutal than .44 magnum, and cheaper too.
Both are fun, but .357 in my experience is better
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>>64359508
I'm not particularly large handed but my I use my "distal inter-phalangeal joint" on the trigger. I tried listening to the instructions of the pad of my finger etc but I was always shooting low left like that then I started dry firing my new pocket gun years ago and realized I wasn't moving the sights so I switched to that last joint and improved my groups.
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>>64360583
Uh, suggested comparisons? Otherwise go to Bud's or some other gun site that has a good set of filters and filter for guns of similar size and capacity. My recommendation is the CC9, but the hellcat pro and shield plus (with extension) are also the same size.
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>>64358583
It doesn’t mean much. They’ll pay a premium for an fn57 because they think fn means "fuck nigga" and the 5.7 be piercin popo body armor n shit.
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>>64360261
>>64360275
>>64360295
Do yourself a favor. Buy American! Buy a Charter Arms!
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>>64360986
Well I bought mine because of CSGO and because it's the original 5.7 handgun
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Should I get a polymer frame or steel frame IWI Jericho 9mm?
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>>64361068
Steel or nothing
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>>64359953
how do you like the shield plus? is it a noticeable upgrade over the shield?
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>>64361114
Well it's a double upgrade from the 638 and P365.
I like it a lot but I think 115 grain is the best grain to shoot.
I'll have to invest in 115 grain hollow points too
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>>64360054
What caused the jam? Was it induced by you? Because if I had an unexplained malfunction within 120 rounds I'd keep testing a lot more to see if it's a fluke. I have like 1500 rounds through my Shield and zero unexplained malfunctions and I think that's the level you should be looking for.
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>>64361135
I assume limp wrist.
I'll have to test it out on the next range trip
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>>64354232
Based
>maskfag
Cringe

>>64354181
I don’t see anyone open carry, maybe because concealed carry was the law for so long and open carry is relatively recent where I live, but the only guy I remember seeing open carry fits your respectable description. He was a (statistically rare) unfat boomer with a stainless Kimber on his hip who was wearing a dress shirt and slacks. The leather holster even matched his belt and boots.

>>64354156
I usually just throw a DA/SA automatic in my pocket. It’s a lot easier than threading a holster through your belt and more comfortable when sitting.
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>>64358002
>thinking about joining ICE
Do it. Be the change you want to be in this world. Get that good salary and sign on bonus. ICE is now the best funded police force in the world, receiving more funding than most country’s entire military force.
>>64354378
>10 years following your passion by getting expensive degrees and no job
We all got this advice and it is such bullshit. First off, it’s work, you’re never going to feel like “you never work a day in your life” just because you like your field. There are hours and bullshit forms and shitty people and it never goes away. And people should only go to college for STEM degrees. If you get a degree in art history or something you’re just going to end up in a shitload of debt with a low paying job. The better path is to get a two-year degree in plumbing, machining, electricianing, or something because then you easily graduate with little to no debt, you’ll start of making double what the art history degree gets you, and in your free time you can study all of the art history you want. And if you like something, it seems like forcing yourself to do it for a set number of hours a day is a really quick way to make yourself hate it and then you have nothing. Truly terrible advice given out by shithead highschool guidance counselor retards.
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>>64361068
Get a Baby Eagle

>>64361169
>The leather holster even matched his belt and boots
Fuck me, I never even considered that. That is stylish
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>>64360583
Unironically the GX4 carry or whatever the compact size thin model is. Made in Florida!
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>>64361169
>It’s a lot easier than threading a holster through your belt and more comfortable when sitting.
This is why I have a shoulder rig. It's comfy when I have to be in the car half the day, easy to throw on for a quick trip to the store, and still allows me to carry a full size handgun and a couple of reloads.
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>>64361217
what you say is correct and i learned it the hard way. everything i learned in higher ed can be gained from dedicated self study and having a couple of good teachers to work with one-on-one. but the most important learning comes on the job. almost everything i've learned as a professional musician has been from working, not school. the best education is probably skipping school entirely and going straight into the professional work and grinding. and that's what i tell younger folks who want to go to college for music, but funny enough they really don't want to hear it. the cycle's gotta continue i guess
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>>64361587
I do not have a shoulder rig but I do badly want one now that it's jacket season.

Do I get a cheapo one, a custom one or just splurge for the $300 Galco Miami 2
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>>64361622
Galco’s rig isn’t comfortable without the added shoulder pads, it’s better to get a rig that has wide shoulder straps built in. I don’t notice my Desert Eagle and 2 mags in its well built shoulder holster with wide straps but I start to get uncomfortable with my 92fs after an hour in a Miami Classic 2 with none.
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For my next pew, Beretta or S&W and what model?
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>>64361806
Do you want a semi auto or a revolver?
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>>64361845
I want more of both
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>>64361889
Ok so just choose either a Beretta 92, APX, S&W L frame revolver, or a M&P pistol
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Anybody use the RMR HD for EDC? The battery seems to die pretty fast
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>>64361911
Nothing lasts long for EDC, the shake awake keeps the sight on all the time while it's on the belt.
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>>64361889
Really hard to make a wrong choice then, do you at least have a caliber you are leaning towards? Get a S&W TRR8 I guess
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>>64361806
What do you already have?
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>>64362013

A bunch of Glocks of varying calibers
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>>64362176
Buy something in .357 Magnum. What's your budget?
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>>64362176
Then get a bodyguard 2.0 or shield plus since both glock and berretta can't do tiny pistols well
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>>64362195
Already got a 43x
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Are Shield pistol optics any good they look to be the most compact and lightweight for my CC pistol.
Anyone know when S&W switched the Shield from rmsc to rmr/holosun K cut?
Also is throwing an aftermarket G19/17 upper on something like a PSA Dagger lower something people do successfully?
I'm looking at a Davidson Defense G19 upper on a PSA Dagger lower for like $270...
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Alright, I'm hanging up the towel with handgun buying and gun buying for at least 6 months to almost a year.
I have bought:
>A Jericho 941
>A Smith and Wesson M&P Shield Plus
>A PPK
>A M&P40 police trade in
>An AR pistol
>A Glock 17 Gen 5
>A S&W 686 to replace the one I lost
It's time to stop, I am burning money like a motherfucker, and I know I will have to pay to get my M&P40 back from the gunsmith rehab, and transfer fees for the AR pistol and 686, at $55 each.
Moral of the story? Credit cards are evil, and so it want.
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>>64361806
>>64361889
Buck the trend and get a Beretta revolver and Smith auto
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>>64362277
I was going to question you but then I remembered that Mahurin is owned by Beretta and of course Smith has plenty of Autos
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>>64362277
Isn't the only Beretta revolver the MR73?
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>>64362281
>>64362284
Yiss
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>>64362284
They sold Uberti revolvers rebranded as Berettas, there is also the Model 1 revolver which was their first gun for the U.S. market. A standard swing cylinder DA .357
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>>64362296
Well the one nice thing I can say about the MR73 is that it makes the price of other revolvers look reasonable. If I stare at it hard enough maybe I can psyop myself into buying a Python
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>>64362214
>I already own a glock 17 why would I want a glock 26
The demensions of the 43x are fucking pathetic for it's capacity. It's a compact sized gun with microcompact sized capacity. Get something else that actually does what the 43x is trying to do and accomplishes it.
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>>64362364
no
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>>64362372
Recommend me a first .357 Magnum revolver. My budget is under $1000. Bonus points for blued.
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>>64362539
Smith and Wesson 686 or Ruger GP100
Now shut up
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>>64362371
I hate the 43x, but to be fair, there are the shield arms mags that bump capacity to compete with other micro 9s.
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>>64362549
>>64362539
I second both the 686 or the GP100, but I would also include the SP101 if you want to carry it with magnum ammo or the 640 Pro if you want to carry mostly 38s, but occasionally 357s as well. Ruger Blackhawk is another good option if you want to shoot full power stuff, feel like a cowboy, and be able to shoot the much cheaper 9mm ammo if you get a convertible version. (I highly recommend a flat top convertible version if you go this route. I LOVE mine!)
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>>64358002
They really should make a T9 with rails and a not retarded trigger guard
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>>64362680
I've never looked into the 640 pro before, so I appreciate that.

Could you please link an example of the flat top convertible version? Thank you.
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anyone here have an RXM? Hows the undercut vs a stock glock? I really like glocks but im too lazy to take one to get it undercut and hate glock knuckle
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>>64362539
I don't know enough, but from seeing videos about S&W revolver quality being hit or miss lately my leaning would be Rooger
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>>64362830
Thank you. I'm basically at a point where my heart wants a Python but my brain wants a GP141-C. All my recent gun purchases have been safe options so I want to splurge a bit but that's almost double the price
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>>64361622
The Galco Jackass is the only one from them I really recommend. The thinner suede straps can be used with much lighter cover garments, and are much more comfortable, and the adjustable vertical cant is nice for larger handguns like the Beretta I carry.
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>>64362830
my SW is very well made. Way better than the EYE-Tahlian. Only bad part is the insult of a cardboard box for a 1100USD gun
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>>64362539
A used S&W Model 28 off gunbroker. You can find very nice examples for well under a grand and it will be far nicer then anything you can buy today.
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Forgot to mention but I was working on renovating that house with a squatter problem at night when suddenly door got a strong kick. So immediately drew the Manurhin I was pocket carrying. Then when I saw the door was kicked open and the cats were running up in fear I went back, grabbed the bulldog, stuffed the Manurhin in my pocket and ran around looking for what happened . Idk what it was but door frame was damaged and I had to fix it.
Idk if any of you have had burglary close calls but I thought I was about to have to shoot it out and chose the Bulldog and also Needed a backup gun.
>>64355930
I don’t know why but the 32 version is almost perfect in ammo compatibility: standard spring runs all and since I was running a lot of European and +p I just bumped it up to 15lbs and it still ran anything at Aguila 32 levels of energy and higher (everything less is honestly a joke).
It’s pretty obvious that 380 on the PPK was an after thought but it still runs good with a little tuning.
Doesn’t matter, slightly hot JHP on 17 lb spring work great and have moderate recoil.
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She cited Hoplopfheil but I don't recall him shilling .40 S&W lately. Her argument is essentially that .40 could have been improved instead of abandoned by the industry but a theoretical tide lifts all theoretical ships so it would still be ballistically inferior to 10x25 with only marginal performance above 9x19 for the trade off in capacity. Silly gun grill

>>64359333
Checked and yeah, fake and gay are the cornerstones of slop
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>>64358873
>Cry me a river
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>>64355879
I kind of want a type 64 they seem cute: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5JKZuBYeQ8M
>>64355888
Based?
She likes chewing on my arm.
I also have a beat up broomhandle but really need a Mauser rifle. I’m thinking Swedish.
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>>64355941
I’m trying to buy mags. They’re expensive and rare other than the shitty 10rd mags.
Idk if to keep or sell my sa35 as I found it disappointing but I also have full gear for it down to 3 oem or milsurp HP mags
Then again I could probably get some decent cash out of it
>>64356481
If you have a discord I can friend I’m connecting with a bunch of people from k anyways and keep secretes well.
And desu I hardly know a thing about rifles so you probably could give a lot of advice.
>>64354378
Hello fellow technically a doctor
What major?
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>>64362924
She does have a point if it's 40 s&w being underrated right now, but it really doesn't need "the industry". The industry can go fuck itself with a .30 super carry shaped dildo, 40 needs contracts, police departments picking it up again, major pf being relevant again, and a temporary ban on "short & weak" naming that damn near destroyed it.
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>>64362992
>If you have a discord
Indeed, drop an invite!

>>64362996
>contracts, police departments picking it up again
With 9mm Para having sufficient ballistics now, why would they ever again?
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>>64362859
Thank you, I'll look into it!
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>>64363013
spb
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>>64362256
That was me last year. This year I've only bought 2 new guns and used credit cards for both just to get the cash back and use sign up bonuses.
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>>64363013
>With 9mm Para having sufficient ballistics now
40 is still a direct upgrade, surely they can make FBI sacrifice a few more goats for the cause. But realistically, civilian market is the only thing that can save it, and now that everyone has a 9mm micro compact (and 40 doesn't fit into it) we won't.
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>>64363030
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>>64361008
Would trust a bulldog with home defense
>>64363045
Why not 45? It has better ergonomics and leaves bigger cavities.
>>64363013
Ty “cheemsburga” rn
I nuked my old discord since someone from my old life was still stalking me nonstop
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>>64362883
I've only looked at 19s and 29s when it comes to Smiths so this is a new avenue to explore. Thanks!
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>>64363045
>40 is still a direct upgrade
Marginally

>>64363078
I don't know much about surplus rifles but will offer what ever knowledge transfers I can! It's funny, I was accused of conspiring with you on disco but it's only now that we're even connected there. About the qualifier, I skirted by with front sight focus. Actually, a stain on my eye pro occluded my vision to just my right. Now I see what Boomers use a blinder for the 25yd bull's eye
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>>64359497
Ruger LCP II
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>>64363078
45 doesn't really compete with 9 and 40, it lives in a larger gun frame, same as 10.
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is 380 good enough?
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>>64363125
>>40 is still a direct upgrade
>Marginally
It's straight up heavier bullets faster, is it that much? Probably not, a lot depends on exact ammo specs, which annoyingly, 9mm has a lot of variance and some of it has been creeping down lately, dangerously close to the tune of 350 ft lbs.
>>64363159
>is 380 good enough?
As someone would put it, it's marginally worse.
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>revolvers are 100% irrelevant even for carry now
Feels bad. I love wheel guns.
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>>64363207
Outdated =/= obsolete
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>>64363207
When did they invent a semi auto that is unable to jam, fully DA/requires no slide racking, and barely needs to be cleaned in order to perform year after year? Is it also under $600 like a good revolver?
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>>64359497
The issue with .22 is that the primers are slightly less reliable than center fire primers. This, in addition to the marginal effectiveness of the caliber, has led me to the conclusion that it isn't what I want to carry. A revolver would actually help alleviate the primer issue, but you specifically said no revolvers. If I were going to carry a .22 I'd probably go with that Taurus TX22 or maybe a Ruger Mk IV.
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>>64363290
This is cope
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>>64363290
>unable to jam
>fully DA
>requires no slide racking
>barely needs to be cleaned
>under $600 like a good revolver
It's basically Glock 17.
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>>64363207
>>64363260
Revolvers are better when you gotta stealthmaxx
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>>64363323
This post is probably by a Berettatroon. You can leave your shell casings on the scene for the AntiChrist janny trannies to find, but I'll pass on that shit
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Mag Tech or Winchester white box for .45 acp in a 1911?
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>>64363400
Winchester Red Box is my favorite since it’s flat nose and makes nice round holes.

White box is super dirty so it blackens the muzzle in a cool way
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>>64363400
Magtech is dirty dirty but also loaded to spec so you shouldn't have any cycling issues. Winchester is softer shooting and I've had some issues with it in my Tisas but nothing horrible.
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>>64363429
>Winchester Red Box
Fucking what?
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>>64363439
It comes in a red box. Winchester Ready I think is the brand
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>>64363439
I'm sorry, are you from the timeline where we called it Winchester white box? I hope you like this one.
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>>64362539
If you want blued go with a 586. I have a 6” model and it’s my favorite handgun without a doubt. Love me some fireballs
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>>64363159
Yeah. Barely but yeah. If "barely good enough" is ok to you is up to the individual.
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Any suppressed revolver users here?
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I would legitimately try it if there was a threaded revolver, disregarding the gap. But, no one threads revolvers.
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>>64363484
What cartridges do you shoot to get the fireball effect? Buffalo bore?
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>>64363207
>>64363342
Bulldog is cheap/expendable, light weight and leaves a huge hole with buffalo bore meant for it able to stop bears.
This makes it great for home defense and wilderness.
Especially since you don’t damage mags by keeping it loaded.
>>64363125
I’m going to paint my tisas sight red. Bulldog came reded by last owner. Normally I shoot with both eyes open but I might try one only if doing 25 yards
>>64363159
>>64363531
Parbellum is only marginally more effective in defensive shooting statistics than 380 and arguably 32. Its main advantage is high capacity in duty guns. Shot placement is a far stronger statistical correlate than calibers at least at 9 and smaller.

I said when during a potential home invasion I pocketed my 380 and grabbed a 44 revolver
>>64363536
I have a spare nugget for threading but never got around to it
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>>64363207
A man that can get 5 shots on point with only five tries is better than a man who gets 10 out of 17
>i;e shut the fuck up and shoot
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>>64363606
>Superior sister posted
Based
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Why do I do this shit?
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>>64362924
>She cited Hoplopfheil but I don't recall him shilling .40 S&W lately
He's always spoke positively of .40
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>>64363207
Still the goat backup gun for close range gun-grab situations.
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>>64363536
Aye but i aint postin shit for you fgt ratas
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>>64363606
Picrel
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>>64354378
Tutoring can be VERY lucrative and lots of parents are willing and able to pay. Obviously, science/math stuff is best, but plenty of kids need help in other areas too.

Best of all, you can set your own rates, do it online, meet in person, etc....There are even Tutor services to get you up and running, then once you've got a little cadre, you can go on your own. If you're good, the kids' parents will tell each other for referrals.
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I need 1911 help, boys. Gun works fine but when I rack it to the back and slowly let it go, the slide hangs on the disconnector. I switched said disconnector out for a Wilson Combat one and same thing so it's not that. Guessing it's that little ledge that the disconnector is hanging up on. Should I try to polish or dremel it or just shoot till it goes away?
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>>64355117
It's wise for male prostitutes to be armed.
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>>64363176
It's as if they wanted .40 to fail after 2010

>>64363614
I know that feel

>>64363626
>.40 > 10mm
Cringe inducing take
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>>64361806
AntiChrist gun vs troon gun
Hmmmm
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>>64363727
Lovely coming from a guy who has neither 10mm or .40
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I don't really get the point of .40, honestly. Every gun that is chambered in .40 is also chambered in 9mm or .45 ACP. It's not like a .380 situation where there are a bunch of good guns that are stuck with a crappy cartridge.
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>>64363762
9mm being sufficient is cope and it’s performance isn’t that much better than it was in 1980s. .40 with the right load has nearly the same expansion as .45 but substantially more rounds in the magazine. It has heavier and better expanding JHPs than 9mm, heavier is important for duty purposes where barrier penetration is important.
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>>64363816
.40 itself is THE cope round cause women in law enforcement couldn't handle 10mm
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But wait there's more. 10mm has another shortened case successor, the 357 Sig. And it's the best one of the bunch. It is a one trick pony though, unlike the rest of common pistol cartridges.
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>>64363755
>has neither 10mm
I don't live in bear country
>or .40
If I replace my barrel with .40, my Glock will die
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I can't wait to get my M&P 40 out of rehab, I haven't shot .40 Sweet and Whimsy in 5 years
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>>64363939
And they couldn't handle .40 either, so they switched to 9mm. 9mm is the real cope.
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>>64364057
>9x19 Parabellum invented in 1901
>.40 S&W invented in 1990
Imagine having nearly a century of innovation to work with and still losing lmao. Don't even get me started on the other wastes of primers like .357 Sig, .45 GAP and .30 Super Carry
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>>64363762
U big dumb
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>>64364112
9mm just fucking works
Well so does .45 ACP, .357, .38, 5.7, .44 mag and .40 to some extent
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>>64364178
And compare average CPR of 9mm to all of those
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>>64364198
Heeb detected
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>>64364210
Boomer detected. Some people here actually shoot their guns and aren't just letting them rot in a safe to (not) leave them to their grandkids
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>>64364216
250 dollars versus 360 dollars a month, if I was shooting 1k a month

yeah it adds up, but .45 is more pleasurable to shoot than 9mm
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>>64364198
22 has even better cpr
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>>64363131
Absolutely not. Do not get this thing for carry. It is only suitable as a range toy. I have one and it sucks ass. If you get a dud, the extractor slips off the rim and you get a double feed every damn time.
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>>64363605
>Parbellum is only marginally more effective in defensive shooting statistics than 380 and arguably 32. Its main advantage is high capacity in duty guns. Shot placement is a far stronger statistical correlate than calibers at least at 9 and smaller.

Bro is 95% correct. 9mm has another advantage in that it is the lightest, least recoiling handgun cartridge that has enough power to expand hollow points reliably and have those expanded bullets penetrate deeply, most of the time, with well designed hollow points. If you use cheap garbage hollow points, you aren't any better off than with a 380.
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>>64364112
45 GAP is criminally underrated. I would carry it if factory ammo existed for it. I have to handload for it to ever shoot it and carrying handloads is a no no.
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>>64362924
What the fuck is she yapping about refining powders and strengthening cases for 40s&w is she retarded? Companies have had great loads for 40 for decades at this point, it's like one of the easiest calibers to find hollow points that penetrate and expand well. Why would you need to make a stronger case when you can already get some screaming hot 500+ ft lb loads? .
40 fulfills the purpose of fitting in guns you can't have 10 or 45 in well, it's an awesome round especially in subcompacts.
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>>64364404
Fair dinkum
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>>64363696
>implying I’m worth that much
It is really smart to carry tho
>>64364349
I wonder how well Norma 380 will work out of a 3.3in PPK
>>64363679
It’s too difficult and inconsistent and everyone is very entitled and whiny. College professor works better mostly just because it’s consistent, and has a veneer of respectability.
Also, maybe I lucked out but running the theatric twink act works well there. Get treated almost like a performer, given gifts and it’s easy to get people to listen to you. I did have to get over stage fight fast but whatever.

I know not to get too comfortable with it. It’s a dead end ultimately and I need to move on to something serious but for now, it’s certainly the nicest way to spend career limbo.
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>>64362770
that's the TP9-2. i think a total 7 people have purchased them. they currently go for $300 new on gunbroker, which seems like a stupid good deal to me, but then again i'm a kahrfag so whatever. i'll buy one after i pick up my T9
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Range faggots are gangstalking me, onG frfr no cap, none whatsoever
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>>64364218
>>64364216
NTA but that Czech state security scorpion 32acp ammo is awsome. 25 cpr for steel cored tumbling rounds that rank at fiocchi levels of power
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>>64362992
>fellow technically a doctor
PhD in music lol. classical pianist and composer. i got so much shit in my elementary school teaching job when word got around that i had a doctorate, even though i never really talked about it. for example one time i was in the break room on lunch, and this facilities guy (who was married to the HR lady so that's probably how he found out) was like, "oh hey DOCTOR anon, can you fix my elbow?? bet not HA HA HA" and all the other staff laughed at me and i was like, uhh... yeah i guess you need to see a physician, sorry you're assblasted that there is such a thing as doctorate degrees outside medicine. fucking stupid asshole
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>>64364619
long shot but
did you try writing music?
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>Dropped 90 bucks on an adapter plate for my red dot
It’s worth it, right? Red dots are infinitely better than iron sights, right?
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>>64364636
For targeting shooting, yeah
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>>64364636
Having a valid sight picture for a range of sight alignments is a lot better than having a valid sight picture for only one alignment. The improvement is still finite, and you still need to be able to hit what you're aiming at.
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>>64364558
Metal frame or bust
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>>64364633
oh yes that's what my primary studies were in through my three degrees. had my works performed many times, got some good reviews, even had a few major publishers interested in bringing me into their catalogue but for whatever reason its never worked out and now i'm a nobody in that world and still at square 0. oh well i'll keep grinding at it but fuck does it wear you down after a while
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>>64364636
infinitely better than irons, is this a joke?
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I have a question but I'm waiting for the next thread
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>>64364674
You don't deserve to have your question answered
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>>64364674
How many questions do you have nigger
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>>64364619
>act like a performer but not actually one
>anon is actually a music expert
Why don’t you just become a fine arts/conservatory professor
Even if that’s not what you want long term it gives stability and money short term. Which has been really good fr me in everything from self esteem to finance. I actually love fine arts, was thinking about Russian pieces dripping in minor chords this morning. I have no talent for the arts though.

I usually semi hide doctorate outside of work. I don’t really see it as a big part of my self image.
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>>64364674
ask and you shall receive
>>64364819
>>64364819
>>64364819
>>64364819
>>64364819
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>>64363602
Funny enough that’s just Magtech 158gr. I’ve reloaded some rounds that give a similar fireball, but end up spitting lots of powder back in my face. I’m following a loadbook, so I’m not sure why so much powder isn’t burning
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>>64363605
>Parbellum is only marginally more effective in defensive shooting statistics than 380 and arguably 32. Its main advantage is high capacity in duty guns. Shot placement is a far stronger statistical correlate than calibers at least at 9 and smaller.
Defensive shooting stats are only marginally useful since they are completely uncontrolled and of dubious sourcing. The only thing that matters when comparing cartridges is how they compare in objective tests such as the meat target. Nothing smaller/less powerful than a *good* .9x19 load like HST expands reliably, so 9mm is the smallest you should ever go with HP ammunition, and FMJ is just poking holes and probably doesn't perform too differently with small changes like .380, 9x18, 9x19.



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