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drunk purchase: got a kriegsmarine officer's ceremonial dagger. apparently, they had to buy it out of their own pocket so not all of them did. the tip is sharp, but the blade came unsharpened. some officers had the blade sharpened

in doing my research, fakes will have the swastika with rounded edges/curves while legit ones have straight edges. mine smells old and has the original patina.

thoughts? i paid $1500 for it (again drunk) but I'm more concerned about where I can sell this it I ever want to get rid of it. not many places take literal nazi stuff.

pic 1/10

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>>64355088
2/10

>>64355088
Looks to be in great condition, can't wait to see the blade.

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>>64355097
3/10

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>>64355120
4/10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w95RW5u8q8A
These look cool, shame they're over $800 and not as sharp as they could be.

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>>64355121
5/10

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>>64355129
6/10

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>>64355135
7/10

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>>64355138
8/10

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>>64355140
9/10

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The undisputed GOAT, no argument possible, no argument needed. Total Benchmade Death imminent.

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>>64355145
10/10

>>64355127
thanks for posting that. i never knew about this. it looks pretty cool and useful, but for ~$900, i don't know if it's worth it. i bought a nice golden eagle gladius from kult for $400.

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>>64355260
pic rel

>>64355151
i actually just got my first mora companion today. i got the carbon steel version because it was cheaper than the stainless for some reason. $17 or so which is fuckin nuts for a knife. the most expensive knife i own is probably a spyderco although i kinda ruined it by heating it with a torch on a spot. but the $20 mora knife feels 10x better than the shitty china made spyderco and i'm not really that scared to damage the knife cause its 20 heckin dollarydoos

i cut some paracord with it and it melted through it like butter. even my civivi which is pretty sharp and can shave was more effort than the mora knife.

weirdly the spine of the mora knife is not polished like the rest of the knife. some quick research seems to suggest this is normal for the carbon version. i think i'll keep it as is though, it kinda gives it some character.

all in all, a solid 8/10 knife. the handle came with some weird artifacts like pieces of plastic sticking off, i'm guessing from the molding process. some snips make them pretty much unnoticeable though.

i think im going to mod a para3. i miss the one i sold

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>>64355737

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>>64355151
Dewalt makes a scandi grind for 10 bucks. The mora under test is roughly 20% tougher, but for the price point I would rather have 2 cheapo scandis. At the point of the stress tolerance where the Dewalt would break you would be using a decent fixed blade anyway.

https://youtu.be/QfDerzHE-lw?si=pm6Fc2gWuC6x0PPN

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Carrying this now and a 380 in my boot while I work overnights

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This is a slate knife that someone dug up. I'm trying to find something like it, I'm sure the blade is under 3" (a 1/2 inch wrench is close to a 10mm wrench for reference). I just keep getting push daggers, while the blade is similar, the handle isn't. Has anyone seen anything exactly like this?

calm the fuck down, Spyderco

>>64356275
>exactly like this?
Looks like Ötzi's flint knife, but slate won't hold a shit edge.

>>64356276
Must suck being poor

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>>64356062
>The mora under test is roughly 20% tougher
>20% tougher
do anons really
bro, dewalt isnt on the knife map
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3Cf2p3zhyQ

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>>64356062
>>64356509
>>64355046
hultafors gk > mora companion hd >> dewalt
toughest value knife that you can depend your life on. 16 euros, japanese steel, hammer proof

>>64356509
>>64356544
we are comparing sub 20usd knives. if i'm going to go cheap ill go cheapest. Otherwise i'm carrying my ka-bar bk2 in Magnacut if I want to whack it on stuff

I wish someone made a kydex sheath for the Mora Basic line.

>>64356648
> Otherwise i'm carrying my ka-bar bk2 in Magnacut
bro, the hultafors is way tougher than any of your magnacut
i'm talking about heavy use knives, not 300 euro desk ornaments

>>64356773
My wishes far exceed your plebian desires.

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As promised, though you don't deserve it.

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>>64356903
I've seen literal tumors that looked more visually appealing than this garbage.

>>64356895
Well, I also want a classic Cold Steel Oyabun and Japanese made SOG Pentagon.

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>>64356903
The quality of the Rosec4aft far exceeds the $25 premium, ~$75 vs. $50 for the Bear and Son. The SS bolsters are high polish for both, but better on the Rosecraft. Though I could do without the laser otter print. The scupted bone on the Bear is blown away by the red stag of the Rosecraft, alone well worth the price increase. And the Rosecraft edge is better out of the box. Though anybody without a strope would be happy with the Bear and Son edge. Both have a 90° stop. All in all, if Knife Center had free returns like Amazon, the Bear would go back, but it will make a nice gift and I'm old-fashioned enough to feel that a Barlow should be every boy's first knife. Both sheaths are Bear and Son, at $15/ea, best value. Oh, Knife Center kindly added my free Civivi after I forgot to add the code to my order, so Knife Center > Amazon.

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15v Military 2 user

>>64356916
>you don't deserve it.
Called it.

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>>64356949
15v M2 backup with Ti scales

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>>64356954
And my Cruwear M2

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Just got my first Spyderco, the UKPK. Part of me wishes I went for the Manix 2, but I really love the simplicity and the ergonomics of this one.

>>64357196
>blue
Dude.

>>64357216
Is it bad? Should I make my own scales from local wood or something? Because I was considering that.

>>64357253
>orange, yellow, or black G10 or Zytel, ghost jade, stag, camel bone, ebony, cape buffalo horn, carbon fiber, titanium, or stainless steel are the only acceptable scale material. Blue is gay, but would go well with stretchy gay jeans.

>>64355046
Love Spyderco. Simple as.

>>64357274
I could really get into camel bone scales. What about Ultem, brass, or olive wood?

These all suck everyone knows
Fixed>folder

>>64357196
I've had a manix 2 for about 15yrs now. good knife, would recommend. Like the enduras a little more for beaters since I'd be less upset if it gets mildly fucked up

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>>64357330
>Ultem, brass,
Yeah, I was going to list brass and forgot about Ultim. I gave away my camel bone/Damascus/brass liners knife. It was pretty cool. Olive wood might be nice. I also got zebra wood for me BK2.

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Just picked this up locally for $100. Someone at Leatherman had given it to the guy, and he had no use for it. Been wanting something fixed in Magnacut.

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>>64357330
>camel bone scales
>>64357378
>gave away my camel bone/Damascus/brass liners knife
And yet found an old pic. Behold the bones.

>>64356945
I can’t get over buying a traditional knife made in ching chong China. I will admit that my last Case was pretty bad.

>>64356949
I should get something in 15V, just don’t care for Spyderco anymore.

>>64357501
The Rosecraft is China, the Bear is USA.

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Watch how Mora lovers recoil in disgust when the only Mora recommended for batoning is posted (it's $90.)

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>>64356949
15v seems cool, but I have an M4 Military that has a little rust on the jimping from sweat. So I got the S30V one >>64355059
for corrosion resistance.

>>64356949
>>64356954
I refuse to buy one of these Spyderco 15Vs, because that "Big Brown Bear" youtuber is evidently a retard.

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edc essentials

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>>64357378
Olive wood sounds blander than it looks in person, it's a beautiful, golden honey color and it's sturdy. I also really like Ultem, but it's felt sort of flimsy on my Bugout. Want to give brass a try, maybe attempt some engraving designs?

>>64357698

I don't know the dude, but his heat treat on 15v dethroned k390 as my favorite steel. Amazing stuff.

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>>64357951
Forgot pic

Is a benchmade bugout cf elite an ok first buy? I have small hands. I want something light that's comfortable to carry. Ambi is important since I might end up carrying it left. I like black on black. I know the value isn't amazing but that's fine as long as the quality is good.

>>64358104
Yeah the quality is fine. The stock "grivory" scales are generally thinner and lighter than anything else you can get aftermarket. Very, very light, but it's a great shape, great ergos, easy, tight action. Stock screws are soft, so expect to strip at least one if you go to swap the scales.

Well I have a few more headed my way. A couple more Peltonens (a stainless one), some more Moras, and some Finnmans.

>>64357698
Why is he a retard?

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>>64358104
you might like the mini bugout (pic rel) if youre just looking for a clutch ambi edc knife. i havent tried the cf scales but the stock frn ones are perfectly fine and huge aftermarket if you decide you dont like them later on

if you do want some better value the kershaw belair gets good reviews here

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since setting up this ti mini bugout i think im a benchmade defender again. benchmade does the mini size class so well.

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>>64356852
>bro, the hultafors is way tougher than any of your magnacut
>i'm talking about heavy use knives, not 300 euro desk ornaments

Why is it when I mention scandi grind all these euros come out of the woodwork touting their so called superior scandis. You are comparing a 15oz .25 inch thick slab of US forged magnacut supersteel to .10 thick euro mystery steel in terms of toughness.

What the fuck euros?

anyone order chinky shit from aliexpress? they have benchmade clones even with the logo for like $10 i got one to test it out since walmart wont ship their little chinky $10 ozark benchmade clone to me

>>64360677
This is so cringe and amoral to me. I don't know why anyone would be interested in counterfeit garbage, but please do post how the testing goes, I'm curious.

>>64360695
couldnt help it was only $5 shipped

>>64361027
>>64360677
like all true chinesium, even if the action and finish are good, the main problem of
>poorly heat treated nameless stainless (if youre lucky) steel
persists. its going to just dull out on cardboard.

>>64355046
Spyderco knives are so fucking boring.

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got this in the mail today, first knife i've gotten since age 10

>>64362362
>black touches yellow, friend of fellow
Nice.

>>64357445
Pretty good at 100.
Absolute fucking garbage at 300.

nice

>>64360419
The AWT scales are really nice.

That said, I picked up a lionsteel skinny a while ago, and I haven't carried my bugout since.

It's better in every way for practically the same price.

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>>64362519
Totally agree. I feel like I scored a pretty good deal. No way I was gonna pay $300 for it.

>>64360677
Present. FB Knife actually makes decent kit, but they don't do full on "it's totally a Bugout, tee hee" counterfeits, they just copy designs. I do have a couple actual knockoff Bugouts, though. I haven't had much work for the blades, but I wouldn't say they disintegrate at the first sign of cardboard. The action is nice.

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>i havent actually cut anything with them but it is good steel sir

you could say anything else about a $5 knife. 'its $5 who cares' is even valid. but 'i swear bros it totally keeps an edge' is just nonsense.

this isnt some case of muh americuh better or anything. heat treatment just takes man hours, and man hours takes money. for $5-10 you are not paying for the man hours of an even decent heat treat. even nice steels arent that nice with poor heat. on a $5 you are getting 3cr, or worse, and chang is not heat treating it to any sort of spec worth defending.

>>64363190
>>64363219
C'mon, "it doesn't dull after a few boxes" is hardly high praise and if I really wanted to shill I'd have come up with a believable lie. I just haven't had it long and I grab whatever I feel like for the day so it hasn't gotten many chances to do knife things.

It is true that there's a range of prices for these things you're not likely to get anything even approaching decent for $10. Chang can pull off a hat trick for a low, low price, but go too low and you catch him at his Chinkiest and he sends you a toy.

Someone gave me a really cheap knife one time when I didn't have a knife. It was nice of them to do, but I went and got a real knife pretty quick, because I knew that thing was going to fold on my hand sooner or later.

>>64363550
>I knew that thing was going to fold on my hand sooner or later.
How?
I have folders with no lock whatsoever that I've never cut myself with, what are you doing with your tools?

>>64364167
Not him but for one you normally use locking folders like fixed blades. A faulty lock is more dangerous because you are likely to assume the blade is secure when applying force.

>>64364324
>A faulty lock is more dangerous because you are likely to assume the blade is secure when applying force.
Applying force to the back of the blade?

>>64364324
And if a liner lock fails, there is no spring keeping it in an open position.

>>64364442
Unless it's a fixed blade. Checkmate.

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>>64364478
>Checkmate.

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>>64364478
been taking some of your fixed-blade posts to heart and I think I want this one...
>Ka-Bar 1119 Wrench
>425HC steel
>3" blade, 7" total length
>4.76mm girth

>>64364508
Looks intredasting for a novelty wall hanger
Prolly costs like 200 bucks or something outrageous

>>64364532
Nah, it's surprisingly cheap, like $45 on Amazon, but I've found it for around $30 on Ebay. Comes with or without black powder coating, and comes with one of those black polymer sheaths. I want something that's opposite of the military larper fashion and this one seems really cool.

>>64364508
One that might actually look better with cord wrap.

>>64364508
Don't encourage him.

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My favorite tools

Are buck knives still good quality? Wanting both a 110 and 119 eventually.

>>64365462
Your standard 110 is wonderful. 440HC is standard, though you can find 154CM and CPM S30V versions of the 110.

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>>64364675
Fuck it, found a good deal and couldn't help myself. It's the perfect size and it's such a novelty. I can always just give it away as a gift or something if I hate it.
>>64364610
Pic related is my backup plan if I hate the wrench-knife. There's a flat-spine version of the Spyderco Mule Team in SPY27, and there's a lot of custom scale options online.

>>64364508
They aren’t very high quality. You will have to work on the grind. Sheath is cheap but works.
>>64364610
I have thought about plasti-dipping mine it in a red or orange. A bit hidden in plain sight if you pocket carry it.

>>64366398
>I have thought about plasti-dipping mine it in a red or orange
Do it! Post it!

>>64355088
>thoughts? i paid $1500 for it (again drunk)
based
>but I'm more concerned about where I can sell this it I ever want to get rid of it.
You better start taking mental notes of people you know who are really, really into WWII, because this is the kind of thing that you need to know people in order to sell. Incredibly rare, beautiful, will most likely increase in value if you don't fuck it up, but you gotta find the right buyer.

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>>64366398
Shid I already ordered one. Worst part is I found it even cheaper on Etsy, around like $20 with shipping, $5 less than I paid! That's kinda why I got it, it's a cheap
>>64366398
>plasti-dipping mine it in a red or orange
maybe do it like pic related? I was considering like a rubber heat-shrink material for the grip, because bare metal might be annoying in the winter.

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>>64365670
I made some G10 scales for mine, just gotta get some hardware.

>>64366423
>>64366807
Also thought of those rubber tool grip sleeves that come on cheap pliers.

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Kizer October, it's his month

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>>64365670
I'll never forgive them for making the seemingly one off straight spine Mule the "always available" one, it's uglier than the standard shape and supposedly needs a different sheath even though the one that I have is difficult to get the knife in and out of.

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>>64367778
They have a handful of other offerings just above the $60 straight-spine SPY27, and all of them are the normal shape...
>VG-XEOS, Japan, $75
>HIC, Switzerland, $150
>19C27, Taiwan, $70 (out of stock)
>Magnamax, USA, $75 (out of stock)
>AEB-L, Japan, $80
>K294, Japan, $95 (out of stock)

>>64366807
>rubber heat-shrink material for the grip
Really good ones from an electric supply company come with glue inside.

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>>64368023
I have way more Mules than I know what to do with, this is more about the "standard" model being different and a downgrade IMO. If anyone wanted a straight spine mule they could take any of the other ones (well maybe outside of the HIC one) and grind them to that shape. You can't "add" steel to a knife unless you re-melt and reshape the whole thing. It's also not about the steel, I would have bought at least two of an actually standard Mule even if they were completely pedestrian steels like VG10 or S30V.

>>64367778
jesus christ that thing's butt-ugly.

how do I avoiding cutting myself when using a thumb stud?

>>64368023
I want to get the HIC mule and set it up for non-metallic carry.
>>64368137
I was under the impression that “marine grade” heat shrink had the adhesive. I’m going to try to heat shrink an ulticlip to a Mora 510 sheath for pocket carry at work.


Just got my Chicago Knife Works order placed 9/20. They left a knife out of my package. Wonder how much of a pain this is going to be.

>>64368643
Use your thumb.

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>>64355088
All Nazi stuff is fake you're fucked. This is real and everything but the market is FUCKED by China. Tons of other antiques too.
Fuck China.

>>64368658
I did on my new rat knife now it's sliced. only used flippers before so I'm wondering it there's a trick to this

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Just got a real steel ironclad because of the interesting frame button lock
Also got a para 3 salt on the way

>>64356852
Holy fucking retard

>>64358104
Massively overpriced mediocre knife

>>64362362
Þungur hnífur...

>>64365462
The new axis lock buck seems excellent

so im buying a shirogorov

>>64356949
i had and resold a 15v para3 lw. i regret this now

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>>64368643
>>64368861
Hold the folder out horizontally in front of you and push the thumbstud forward.

Does anyone know what kind and what size of screw are used to secure the clip on spyderco knives? The ones in the knife I've got keep loosening up and I don't have any screwdrivers tiny enough for them.

>>64370125
torx 6
get some blue loctite

>>64370136
Yup, loctite was going on the shopping list, thanks!

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A funny lil fella I snapped up as soon as I saw it at my local knife shop, because push knives are illegal here.

>>64368643
No other fingers should be touching the blade or in the way of the blade except thumb on the stud. Once the blade is deployed then you adjust your grip. Depending on the blade, you can flick your wrist the direction of the blade opening to fully deploy so you only need to use the the thumb stud for the first inch or so.

Not sure how you managed to cut yourself.

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>>64370460
Gif for the tards. This one is assisted but it's the same concept for non-assist blades.

>>64370460
I watched videos on the same knife and it seems the pivot on mine is way too tight. I'm having to put a lot of force just to open it half way. I think that's why my thumb was slipping onto the blade

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>>64355151
>>64358104
Don't buy Benchmade, they take your money and hand it to gun grabbers.

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>>64369781
Sucks. They are great. For me my top steels are: 15v, K390, M4, Cruwear, Magnacut. Probably in that order.

Here's a family pic. Boring, but I have simple taste.

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I've got a cold steel shaped hole in my heart.

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>>64372956
See also

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>>64369208
þessi hnífur á að vera þungur

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>>64373099
See also also

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>>64373051
Every whore has a hole in the heart.

>>64373051
I recently got a Mini Hunter, surprisingly good knife.

Tell me why it's a bad idea to add a serrated edge to the spine of my machete

>>64373337
Work is hard and sucks.

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" I'm Nicky"

>>64373099
Overpriced shit
>>64373170
Íslendingur?

>>64373468
Good slicer, but the idea that it's a good fighting/self defence knife design is idiotic

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>>64374528
Pretty sure Michael Janich is of the mindset that you use the knife to help disengage from a physical altercation in situations where you're restricted from carrying a better weapon rather than trying to have a duel with someone else with a knife because otherwise you really should just carry a gun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmQAajb3WEo

>>64374620
I have seen several videos of him talking about the knife and there is no doubt that it was meant to be purpose built for fighting, whatever his philosophy on self-defence might be

>>64374630
>purpose built for fighting
As opposed to self defense? There's a big distinction here.

>>64374700
Is your idea that it was purposefully designed to be bad for "fighting" so it could better serve a "self-defencec" role?

No. He thought he was designing a knife that would allow you to effectively fight in a self-defence scenario, but instead he designed a knife with a tip that is brittle and terribly positioned for stabbing, a blade shape that creates lots of resistance when stabbing, a handle shape that is only comfortable in one position when knife fighting
Even the spideyhole provides the opponent with something to resist the knife in a clinch

The kershaw leek was accidentally designed as a way better fighting knife than the yojimbo. The wharncliffe fighting knife thing is just a design gimmick for him

>>64374734
>Is your idea that it was purposefully designed to be bad for "fighting" so it could better serve a "self-defencec" role?
That's arguably your assertion
>He thought he was designing a knife that would allow you to effectively fight in a self-defence scenario
So how does it fail to do that?
>he designed a knife with a tip that is brittle and terribly positioned for stabbing
It's almost as if it was designed to cut rather than stab, you should probably watch the video in >>64374620
>a handle shape that is only comfortable in one position when knife fighting
because the goal is to defend yourself, not actively knife fight someone
>Even the spideyhole provides the opponent with something to resist the knife in a clinch
What are they going to do, stick their finger in it and disarm you?
>The kershaw leek was accidentally designed as a way better fighting knife than the yojimbo
So which knife fighting experts carry it for that explicit purpose?

>>64374761
Stabbing beats cutting. It does not take a lot of clothing to provide significant resistance towards cuts

The logic behind your supposed defence of this design is quite terrible
>because the goal is to defend yourself, not actively knife fight someone
Distinction without a difference. Are you imaging that this design to be on the opposite of a knife or sword fencing design?
>What are they going to do, stick their finger in it and disarm you?
I know some people are bad at visualizing things in their heads and i'm assuming the same goes for you, i also suspect that you don't have any wrestling experience either
>So which knife fighting experts carry it for that explicit purpose?
Idiotic standard by which to judge the efficacy of a knife's design, especially when anyone with eyes and hands should be able to judge it's function

If you really do want to appeal to an authority, then ask yourself why the jojimbo looks so incredibly different from other fighting knife designs from the last few thousand years

>>64374786
*yojimbo

>>64374786
>Stabbing beats cutting
If you have a long slender blade, sure. But then you're into knife fighting rather than self defense.
>Distinction without a difference
Self defense and fighting to kill have different goals. If you're defending your job is easier because you can wait for the opponent to commit or move yourself out of range. If your goal is to kill then the onus for hitting offensively is on you.
>i also suspect that you don't have any wrestling experience either
then explain to me how wrestling experience is going to allow someone to take advantage of someone using a knife with a spyderhole
>Idiotic standard by which to judge the efficacy of a knife's design
I'll take the advice of someone people regard as knowledgeable on a subject over some random anon on an imageboard. You literally didn't even understand the purpose of the Yojimbo.
>ask yourself why the jojimbo looks so incredibly different from other fighting knife designs
because it's a self defense knife built for the explicit purpose of cutting over stabbing, see the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbGlgOMaGOo#t=68

>>64374816
>If you have a long slender blade
The yojimbo's design prevents it from sharing those very important qualities
>But then you're into knife fighting rather than self defense.
You can't fight your way out of a self-defence scenario without fighting
>Self defense and fighting to kill have different goals
Yeah, sure. Let me just harmlessly slice up this attacker. Even in your hilarious scenario, you would rather have a knife that can slice AND stab from different configurations
>I'll take the advice of someone people regard as knowledgeable on a subject over some random anon on an imageboard
I would rather consider the knowledge of thousands of years of knife designing and fighting over some dumb ass who designed a bad knife

>>64374829
>The yojimbo's design prevents it from sharing those very important qualities
Correct, that's why it's a self defense knife rather than a combat/fighting knife
>You can't fight your way out of a self-defence scenario without fighting
You don't always have to fight your way out of self defense scenario, sometimes all it takes is getting away to a safer environment, large crowd, police presence, etc
>Yeah, sure. Let me just harmlessly slice up this attacker
Thanks for ignoring what I actually said and conceding the argument
>I would rather consider the knowledge of thousands of years of knife designing and fighting
which would amount to nothing when someone shoots you rather than knife fights you

>>64374842
>Correct, that's why it's a self defense knife rather than a combat/fighting knife
I am amazed by your inability to understand the obvious
>sometimes all it takes is getting away to a safer environment, large crowd, police presence, etc
Stick to the subject at hand. I'm already tired enough of your obtuseness as is
>Thanks for ignoring what I actually said and conceding the argument
You don't understabd the implications of your own words
>which would amount to nothing when someone shoots you rather than knife fights you
Irrelevant deflection

You seem to be fascinated by this design to the point of irrationality and you argue like a retard. I'd prefer not to continue this incredibly boring discussion

>>64374851
>Stick to the subject at hand
I'm arguing the conditions of self defense over knife fighting while you disregard the majority of statements I've made, take your own advice.
>You seem to be fascinated by this design to the point of irrationality and you argue like a retard
how ironic
>I'd prefer not to continue this incredibly boring discussion
bye

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Lets take something that already exists
Make it look weird, make it expensive, remove its stabbing capability and market it as a self-defence knife to gullible idiots who will ignore their own common and knowledge of basic knife design philosophy when an "authority" tells them to. Call it the "yojimbo"

>>64374860
Oh right. And bring up the vagaries of self-defence whenever someone calls you out for the obvious design flaws

>>64374860
>>64374865
Couldn't stay away, huh?
I thought I was the guy obsessed with the design

>>64374874
I think you're a retard who deserves to be mocked. Engaging in an actual argument might be far above your intellectual capabilities, so i'll go the more entertaining route of just shitting on you outright

>loses argument above knives
>doesn't matter because you'd just get shot anyway
Why do retards always do this?

>>64374880
>i'll go the more entertaining route of just shitting on you outright
i.e. you couldn't refute anything and now you're just trolling

>>64374882
Getting shot after pulling a knife is a much more likely scenario than two guys having a knife duel

>>64374885
Don't flatter yourself, retard
You're a gullible mongoloid who can't accept the fact that you fell for marketing

>>64374887
90% of the world does not even have a gun, so you're already wrong on that point

It's just the /kg/ troll. He's there to keep the thread bumped, but went overboard on KaBars and got banned last time. He'll end up saying the Mora Companion is the ultimate fighting / utility / edc / bushcraft knife, the most important reason being that it's $20.

>>64374894
Nope. I haven't posted here in several months
Don't try to play detective, you don't have the intellect for it

>>64374889
I mean you keep proving my point by not making any further argument and resorting to ad hominem

>>64374734
>a tip that is brittle and terribly positioned for stabbing
Brittle, sure. Terrible for stabbing, nah.

>blade shape that creates lots of resistance when stabbing
Wouldn't make a difference in real world use. Nobody wears armor any more.

>a handle shape that is only comfortable in one position when knife fighting
Switching grips is a meme. Even if you needed to use it in another grip, it's generic enough that you could still use it, even if it wasn't super comfortable.

>Even the spideyhole provides the opponent with something to resist the knife in a clinch
Literally how? inb4 no wrestling experience because I've got a lot of it and don't see how a 1/2 inch hole would make any difference.

>>64374893
Post 3 incidences of guys knife dueling in the past week

>>64374899
Pipe down, retard. You lost and now you're trying to save face
>>64374900
>Terrible for stabbing, nah
Almost as bad for stabbing as you can get with a tipped knife, the position of the tip in relation to your wrist when you are holding it exacerbates that weakness
>Nobody wears armor any more.
I'm talking about clothes, specifically thick clothes and several layers of clothes
>it's generic enough that you could still use it, even if it wasn't super comfortable.
No. The grip is very bad for edge-in reverse grip which is very strong position in a clinch, something that happens all the time when knives are involved in a fight
>Literally how?
Not meant as a deal-breaker, but it's a hole that is designed to make the blade easy to manipulate, which makes the blade easy to manipulate. Grabbing or pinching the blade in a clinch wouldn't be possible at all without that hole

>>64374907
Link the post where i mentioned knife duels

Michael Janich can slice someone up before they knew what hit them, and it would be impossible for them to fight back because all their tendons are severed. A lot of his stuff is for specialized purposes, I forget if it's certain countries or for law enforcement or what, but a certain collection of his techniques are specifically to sever tendons and disable an attacker rather than kill them. So he made a giant box cutter for it. It's not my cup of tea, but I wouldn't underestimate his techniques or knife designs. You can just say "it's not for me" if it doesn't suit your style.

>>64374916
>You lost and now you're trying to save face
I'm not the one extending the "conversation" by throwing around insults instead of making a point

>>64374921
My style is a knife that can do the same but is better

>>64374919
So you can't then? Thanks for vindicating me.

>>64374923
Any argument is wasted on a retard like you. You have made that very clear already. Now quit demanding my attention, you won't get the approval for which you are so desperate

>>64374931
>quit demanding my attention
you can simply stop posting to accomplish that

>>64374930
London october 5th
South chicago gang fight october 4th
Birmingham pub fight october 3rd

Oof... did i just blow you the fuck out? Yeah, i'm thinking i just blew you the fuck out BIG time lmao

>>64374940
No news articles? Forgive me if I'm skeptical of them actually happening.

>>64374934
I'm right
It's the job of the gug who's wrong to bow out and pipe the fuck down

>>64374916
>I'm talking about clothes, specifically thick clothes and several layers of clothes
You can pierce through thick clothes with a screwdriver. Non-issue in the real world.

>The grip is very bad for edge-in reverse grip
It's usable for an edge-in reverse grip, even if it's not the most comfortable.

>Almost as bad for stabbing as you can get with a tipped knife, the position of the tip in relation to your wrist when you are holding it exacerbates that weakness
You're contradicting yourself here, especially since you brought up RGEI. Many knives meant for RGEI have tips that are angled even lower and still stab fine.

>Grabbing or pinching the blade in a clinch wouldn't be possible at all without that hole
No, that's bullshit. There are knife disarms out there where you're literally grabbing the blade, edge and all. The hole does not make any difference.

>>64374946
>It's the job of the gug who's wrong to bow out and pipe the fuck down
Correct, which is why the discussion should have ended with >>64374854

>>64374951
You don't really think this will stop this retarded slap fight, do you.

>>64374948
>You can pierce through thick clothes with a screwdriver
Pierce. We are talking about slashing and i'd prefer it if you knew what an argument was about before joining it
>It's usable for an edge-in reverse grip, even if it's not the most comfortable
It is specifically designed in a way the makes it less suitable for that type of grip. Did you decide to respond to me just to confirm my own claim in the form of an argument?
>Many knives meant for RGEI have tips that are angled even lower and still stab fine.
With completely different handle shape which place the tip in a completely different spot. The vast majority of knives that are designed for reverse grip, edge-in fighting curve in such a way that creates clearance between your wrist and the blade. You genuinely have no idea what you are talking about
>There are knife disarms out there where you're literally grabbing the blade
Out there, huh? Just out there in the wild?
Do you not understand how that specific disarm that is out there is made easier by the existence of that hole? Sounds like having that hole on the blade would make it really susceptible to that disarm

I am having a very hard time seeing why you decided to argue with me when you literally don't have anything to say

>>64374957
You could always ask the guy responding to me to stop and see what they say

>>64374968
>We are talking about slashing
Again, doesn't make much of a difference. A boxcutter can go through layers of clothes. Winter clothes aren't chainmail.

>It is specifically designed in a way the makes it less suitable for that type of grip
less suitable =/= bad

>The vast majority of knives that are designed for reverse grip, edge-in fighting curve in such a way that creates clearance between your wrist and the blade
Straight handle knives with no curve at all where used for reverse grip edge in fighting for centuries in Europe. You genuinely have no idea what you are talking about.

>Do you not understand how that specific disarm that is out there is made easier by the existence of that hole?
Do you not understand that a hole that isn't even big enough to stick your pinky finger in isn't going to do a damn thing outside of the realm of the hypothetical? Then again, it's just big enough for you to fit your dick in.

>>64375006
Thick clothes provide a significant amount of protection against slices and there are thousands of tests to prove it and it's has been a well known fact for thousands of years thanks to the prevalence of sword fighting. Knives aren't lightsabers and it's strangely naive and out of touch of you to dismiss the effectiveness of clothes against slashes
>less suitable =/= bad
Yes, there are knives that have grips that are less suitable but aren't outright bad, but those examples don't include the yojimbo. I'd prefer it if you actually had a point to make
>Straight handle knives with no curve at all where used for reverse grip edge in fighting for centuries in Europe. You genuinely have no idea what you are talking about.
You said the most obvious thing in the world and dropped a "You genuinely have no idea what you are talking about" as a comeback because i made you mad
Do i really need to school you on the fact that not a single one of those knives were designed in any way that resembled the yojimbo and do i really need to bring up the fact that you specifically mentioned knives that were designed to be held in edge-in reverse grip and had low tips, which is the type of knife which i was addressing? It's irrelevant for you to bring up the centuries of knife fighting in europe when i was very obviously addressing different knife designs
>the hole
Grab a knife
Pinch the blade and pull it away
Now do the same with a spyderco
Notice how one slips out of your grip and the spyderco doesn't?

I am genuinely baffled. How is possible for you to be this incredibly fucking stupid? Do you need a caretaker or are you only completely retarded when it comes to knives?

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>>64375056
>Thick clothes provide a significant amount of protection against slices and there are thousands of tests to prove it and it's has been a well known fact for thousands of years thanks to the prevalence of sword fighting
Slashing swords can go through gambesons which are significantly thicker than modern clothing. It's why people invented chainmail. I don't know why you think everyone is walking around with polar anoraks and 5 layers under it, especially in the age of modern synthetics.

Clothes aren't the same as armor and it's strangely naive and out of touch of you to dismiss the effectiveness of slashes and clothes.

>Do i really need to school you on the fact that not a single one of those knives were designed in any way that resembled the yojimbo
nope


>Grab a knife
>Pinch the blade and pull it away
>Notice how one slips out of your grip and the spyderco doesn't?
Why do you have the finger strength of a toddler? People have routinely opened folding blades without any thumb holes for decades. You must need a caretaker since you're clearly arthritic and are going senile.
https://youtu.be/0tm9QCVOh6I?t=94

>>64375056
>Grab a knife
>Pinch the blade and pull it away
>Now do the same with a spyderco
and if you're the guy holding the knife by the handle you can just twist your wrist and break their hold because it's the entire grip strength of your hand against their pointer finger and thumb pinching

>>64375100
>Slashing swords
Good job defeating your own argument, retard
>You must need a caretaker
Notice how you can't formulate your own insults so you have to repeat mine back to me

We are talking about 2 people fighting over a knife, not resisting the detent of a knife to open it

You are an actual genuine idiot. I don't mean that just as an insult, you are an actual stupid person and i have the misfortune of having to deal with you, like a teacher with a D student

>>64375107
This is what i'm responding to
>>64374948
>There are knife disarms out there where you're literally grabbing the blade

If we accept the validity of this disarm, then we have to accept that it's easier with a spydeyhole

>>64375118
>There are knife disarms out there where you're literally grabbing the blade
Any barehanded ones? Got a video link?

>>64375125
Ask the guy who made the claim

>>64375126
I don't see how that's made easier with a spydiehole though, that only makes sense if you're jamming your finger into the hole or pinching without grabbing the entire blade and both are made pointless by the guy holding the knife simply twisting their wrist to break the hold

>>64375133
If told you about the kimura, would you imagine both people standing upright?

>>64375139
Why would you bother touching the knife if you have enough control over the arm to break it?

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>>64375147
It's not about the fucking kimura, you fucking retard. It's about having the fucking sense to realize that fights don't look like this

As a knife enthusiast, i gotta say i'm a bit distressed to learn that the knife general is full of the most obtuse retards i have come across in a while

>>64375162
That backs up my argument more than anything, why are you trying to grab a KNIFE'S BLADE when grappling an arm/wrist is easier and less dangerous?

>>64375172
>>64375118

>>64375175
you gonna pretend I wasn't replying to a post that said:
>Grab a knife
>Pinch the blade and pull it away
>Now do the same with a spyderco
>Notice how one slips out of your grip and the spyderco doesn't?

>>64375172
>>64375178
Try asking the guy who made the claim about the knife disarm

>>64375183
Sounds like you agree that >>64374786 and >>64374968 was wrong about "wrestling experience" mattering when it comes to "resisting" a spyderhole knife then

>>64375201
It was the other guy's premises
I based my response on his premises
Why would i defend the premises of the guy whom i was arguing? Hypothetical question btw. I don't value your answer

>>64375214
>It was the other guy's premises
>I based my response on his premises
So in either case you're wrong because you either supported a faulty premise to make an argument or were wrong yourself, thanks for proving that.

>>64375218
Have you ever heard the phrase
>assuming it's true
In an argument? You probably have, but you're apparently too retarded to know what the fuck they were talking about

>>64375229
I pointed out >>64374786 specifically and if that wasn't you then you should have said so, never mind >>64375056 argues essentially the same argument.

>>64375236
Yeah, you have absolutely no fucking idea what's going on lmfao

>>64375238
Seems like you're backed into a corner and can't refute what's been asserted, thanks for vindicating me.

>>64375244
You're too retarded to even start a debate on any sort of solid ground and now you're declaring yourself the victor without any argument having taken place

>>64375257
Do you believe that "wrestling experience" makes a spyderhole knife easier to defend against?

>>64375260
I have noticed how you always manage to ask the wrong question
You keep asking questions that won't prove your point, presumably because you're very, very retarded

Yes, i do
Here comes the part that you're too retarded to predict: i think it easier to defend against all types of knives whether they have spyderholes or not

Do you kinda sorta understand what i mean when i point out the fact that you are stupid?

>>64375272
>Yes
Thanks, I am once again vindicated in my assumption.

>>64375282
It's important for you, isn't it?
You really need this win after the spanking i just gave you, don't you?

>>64375229
Assuming it's true, I have heard that phrase in an agreement. What then?

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>>64375170
Way more gun experts on /k/ then those who have trained in any form of edged combatives like Silat, Arnis/Escrima or even Krav maga powertardism.

These threads do tend to devolve into theoretical stabby scenarios, just not recently. It is weapons board after all.

In any case, I'm thinking of building/molding ballistic dummies so I can do stabby stuff in the backyard. I think I just need a mold and some ballistic gel, these things cost like 300 bucks in the store

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>>64375125

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>>64375125
It shows up fairly often in medieval fencing manuscripts, like this one from Fiore de'i Liberi

>I am in a good position to take the dagger from your hand, and to do it I push the point upwards, close to your elbow. And you will lose it, and I will quickly strike you with it. I took the dagger in this way because I was not able to bend your arm.

>>64375118
>If we accept the validity of this disarm, then we have to accept that it's easier with a spydeyhole
It would be harder with a spyderhole as you have less material to hold onto.

>>64375552
Retard

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>>64375557
pictured: (you)

>>64375571
Simmer down, mongoloid
You just claimed that the spyderhole which is specifically designed to offer traction and leverage on which to push/pull on is ACTUALLY reducing your grip like some kind of spasticated fucking retard

Fuck off and kill yourself so the world needn't suffer your presence

According to this nigger-brained moron's own logic, spyderco knives would be easier to open without the hole in it

No hole, no Spyderco. It is literally what thier brand is known for.

>>64375620
This cum drooling downie >>64375552 thinks you'd get more grip if the blade was completely smooth

>>64375623
I saw Jackie Chan field strip a 91FS in h2h. So it only makes sense to start fights without the disadvantage of a gun.

>>64375584
>>64375623
>which is specifically designed to offer traction and leverage on which to push/pull on
By putting your thumb in it. If you wrap your hand around the blade, are you putting your thumb in the hole?

>>64375637
Pick up a spyderco and test it if you are too fucking retarded to visualize it

>>64375637
I myself have put my thumb "in the hole" as part of establishing dominance and submission.

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Are you too gay, or too homophobic to have a breast dagger?

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>>64375654
It appears you are too dense to visualize, so here's a picture. If you're grabbing a knife by the blade, are your fingers going into the Spyderhole?

>>64375684
You are unbelievably retarded in a wsy that only a inbred 3rd worlder can be

ANY GRIP OR PINCH IS STRONGER IF IT'S OVER AND PARTIALLY INSIDE THE FUCKING HOLE THAN IT WOULD BE ON A SMOOTH BLADE

Useless fucking spastic

>>64375684
>>64375779
Can we please discuss breasts and breast daggers?

>>64375800
Why bother? >>64375684 this guy is so insanely retarded that he can't possibly discuss it without boring you to death with his obtuseness and retardation

>>64374816
>>Stabbing beats cutting
>If you have a long slender blade, sure. But then you're into knife fighting rather than self defense.
That doesn't even make sense.

>>64375888
He's a massive retard
Dumbest fucking idiot you can imagine

It took an entire year, but my spyderco para 3 salt preorder from bladehq finally arrived

>>64374943
>>64374907
>>64374930
>>64375282
Oh look, it's this retard again. You looking for another spanking from the jannies?

>>64375914
He's a well known retard? Not surprised

>>64375294
>It's important for you, isn't it?
Not really, I just think people should back up their claims and not hide behind vagueness

>>64375937
It obviously is
You would have to be desperate to claim that as a win

>>64375946
It's a win in that my assumption was verified. As for the discussion I don't think anyone believes "the spideyhole provides the opponent with something to resist the knife in a clinch"

>>64375960
Fuck off, retard. That's two threads now in a row that you've derailed and shit up.

>>64375960
>>64375968
Lol. Imagine such a massively retarded sperg that you're instantly recognizable through the cover of anonymity. The fact that you are a uniquelly retarded poster and not a representative of the intelligence of the average /kg/ poster is reassuring

>>64375968
I wasn't the one who made the claim, nor am I the only one keeping this discussion afloat.

>>64375985
*Imagine being such

Making mistakes out of tiredness

>>64375986
>anon favors knife and accepts that you can disarm a knife by grabbing the blade
>i disfavor the knife and point out how the hole would make the disarm easier
>you (a fucking retard) enters the argument and starts sperging out
Crystal?

>>64375985
>>64375968
Sperg watcher here, new to /kg/, i find the sperg phenomena interesting. What do you guys call this one?

>>64376001
>point out how the hole would make the disarm easier
This never happened though

>>64376003
>What do you guys call this one
Hard to know. He's either trolling by pretending like he's an idiot or he's an actual genuine retard

>>64376003
I can't even follow the argument. They should name themselves Yojimbo Appreciator and Yojimbo Disrespector for clarity.

>>64376008
I suggest you avoid engaging in conversations if you're this retarded and incapable of follow text on a screen
I very much doubt we would miss anything if we never saw another one of your posts

Anyway, i'm gonna let this downy seethe impotently while i sleep
Hope he doesn't bother the rest of you with his obnoxious stupidity

>>64376043
Ironic considering the hypothesis was outright refuted and now a bunch of other people are sperging out instead of proving the point

>>64376003
Ka-bar sperg, I guess. We also had the Bussy fag many moons ago.

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i own two leeks and the idea of using it in any sort of combat or fight or self defense is firmly the most retarded thing ill hear today

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that being said the leek is a all time great edc knife and is still affordable and miusa. the hollow grind... insane value. even in babies-first-real-steel 14c28n it's such an insanely good blade.
pro tip get the lynch clip so it doesnt constantly snag on shit while a whole inch sticks out of your pocket.

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>>64376265
I thought Leeks were cool and wanted one ever since I saw them in outdoors stores as a kid like 25 years go. Not disappointed, though the only gripe I have is that the handle is a little slick.

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>>64376308
>only gripe I have is that the handle is a little slick
Makes me glad I grabbed a G10 version while they were available

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>>64376308
yeah thats why i figure theyd be absolute ass in combat. still lovely knives though and i cannot say enough about the gorgeous hollow grind