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>Three Chinese reconnaissance satellites flew over the Lviv region 9 times today from 00:00 to 11:30. The satellite was also detected in the morning over Dnipro.
>Earlier, intelligence had already warned that China was providing Russia with satellite data for missile strikes.
Implessive!:
https://x.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1974852319465656671?
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>>64358211
What a strange situation. A country with space launch capacities is needing satellite information from the country they gave their space knowledge to. On top of being bullied by a country that gave up its ability to put personnel into space
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>>64358211
That would (at least partialy) explain the increase in strikes on Ukrainian infrastructure
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>>64358260
China literally has more navigational and spy satellites than the Russians. And their also put a rover to the far side of the Moon and also on Mars while Russia has done jack shit since the soviet days.
The chinks are ones really carrying the torch of the military and scientific projects of the soviets and not Russia now.
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>>64358211
Being surprised the chinks are selling satellite data to monke is about as surprising as learning that le evul wectoids are giving satellite data to Ukraine. I just wonder how much monke is needing to whore his nation's resources out for the privilege.
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>>64358260
>'giving' 1970s knowledge to a 2020s tech country
>this is supposed to be relevant
What is it with boomers glazing Russia with backhanded praise? They have nothing to give anyone.
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>>64358211
Hey bud maybe you never heard of a little thing called the Sino Soviet split.
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>>64358211
>missile strikes

Did russia strike anything other than buildings? Because why would you need sat data if you just type in the gps and let her fly?
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China stabbed Russia in the back. Satellite intel cooperation is unlikely.
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>flew
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>>64358211
>1960s technology
implessive!
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>>64358394
For the OG sino-soviet split, the US helped China (PRC) into getting their seat into the UN and threw ROC (Taiwan) under the bus. Also withdrew US troops from Taiwan and even started tech transfers to China. Even a joint sino-american MBT program was in the works called the Jaguar.
The US would need to give up the entire Ukraine to Russia and withdraw all US troops from the ex-soviet states order to sway Russia into switching sides and team up against China.
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>>64358461
Because China spy satellites must still be using film rolls that need to be airdropped and retrieved in the oceans every couple of days amirite?
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>>64358493
For all anyone knows, maybe
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china is just waiting for the inevitable, and russia can't do shit about it.
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>>64358425
There is no sense if selling machines to Russia when they can sell products made by these machines instead.
Before Russians could by Siemens instead. Now good luck.
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>>64358581
Russia makes nothing only sadness.
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>>64358540
>Caring about some uninhabited lands in Siberia when the hegemony over the entire world is at stake
Literally like trying to Chess while the game is Go
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>>64358260
Ironically, when this war is over, Russia will be China's biggest arms customer, buying superior flanker clones and T-72 MBT clones.
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>>64358338
>The chinks are ones really carrying the torch of the military and scientific projects of the soviets and not Russia now
There may come a time where Russia sells off its remaining military assets/companies to China to cover the huge costs of the Ukraine debacle. So in a sense, absolutely
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>>64358393
Their sub tech is still relevant, and they have huge stockpile of nukes
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>>64358211
russia is a vassal state so nothing surprising
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>>64358588
Wonder what Jordan exports/imports from the US so much
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>>64358588
Annoying Orange will see this and go "yeah we need more red"
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china will have siberia oil and land in your lifetime.
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>>64358660
is this russia buying from a chinese company or china (the state) giving it to them?
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>>64358687
>chinese
>give
Chinese make jewish caricatures from the Third Reich look fiscally-generous and naive
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>>64358211
>Putin launches the full invasion of Ukraine with this mystical revanchist mission to launch Russia from the back row of nations to the forefront, re-asserting Russian imperial sovereignty to act as it sees fit within its near abroad with impunity
>not only is Ukraine (which the Kremlin views as historical Russian territory) pushing harder than ever away from le heckin Russkiy Mir, but this Russian territory both modern and historical is increasingly becoming a battleground for external powers to play against one another on

this isn't even getting into Chinese exports quietly replacing Russian domestic industries as the Kremlin doubles down on this retarded quagmire
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>>64358282
It's the same increase we've seen every year during autumn/early winter though? Ziggers are just still trying to freeze Ukraine.

>>64358522
>For all anyone knows
Oh really?
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>>64358211
and what is the source of this information?
revisit period of a single satellite is measured in days not hours
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>>64358211
To be fair something like this isn't even least bit surprising. Why the fuck chinks wouldn't do that for Russians? They already sell & ship weapons & equipment to them while pretending they aren't.
This would be like if people acted shocked that U.S is spying on EU
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>>64358636
changs aint selling them shit. there is a reason they are stuffing them full of things like drone parts but no full package hardware like artillery or tanks. They dont want to arm their vassals with gear they can turn around and use against them

drone and missile parts are whatever. Changistan can turn off the tap during war and vantiks will be left what is in stock with no way of easily replenishing the huge holes in production
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>>64358717
everybody is so lucky monke happened to be the tzar to try this. even stalin, his great role model and idol, knew to cut his losses in the winter war where after three months the casualties and rep damage was so bad it convinced the german imperialist that its now or never

monke has been going on for over three years instead of three months instead of effectively freezing the war with fortified lines after 2022. simply because of sheer arrogance, pride and a warped conspiratorial mentality nobody calls him out on
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>>64358853
>turn around and use against them
That's not how arms sales work. Countries that import weapons put their security in the exporting country. The Chinese now has control over the Russian military since they arm them.
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>>64358908
Putin doesn't have a choice. Ukraine has refused all territorial concessions including Crimea.
>Russia should just fuck off
Not politically feasible and never will be. Even dictators have some semblance of mob rule they have to appease.
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My mom just got back from a 3 week vacation in China and then a week in Taiwan visiting relatives. People in Taiwan asked her to bring PRC flags in case of invasion, lol.
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>>64359037
>Not politically feasible and never will be. Even dictators have some semblance of mob rule they have to appease.
It's not. The RU society is buckbroken and would swallow anything the regime wants. If putin tomorrow goes back and says "the army did its job, the mission is complete, ukraine was demilitarized and denazified" nobody would dare to do shit against the regime. The issue is that he himself wants the war, wants to get most of ukraine (if he can't get all of it) and wants to get into history books as the "returner of land".
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>>64359056
Of course they did. And when she brought them, they all clapped.
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>>64358211
Wait. Xi was serious about the "no limits partnership"? What a fucking retard.
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>>64358376
>how much monke is needing to whore
Anus status:
Gaping wound.
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>>64359037
>Even dictators have some semblance of mob rule they have to appease.
Nah, not Putin.
What makes him unique is that he isn't perceived as a person by vatniks, but as a talisman. One that banished the "bad times" of the 1990s. We know that isn't true, but they don't/don't care. So their "trust" isn't really trust, but faith, superstitious and supernatural.

Putin's successor will be doomed, yes, but Putin himself is like a god. Or a trusted drug dealer. Same thing for Russians.
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>>64358540
>reclaiming Amur region
Did you know that China has tigers?
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>>64358636
>pucciya
> buying
> ANYthing
> from ANYone
> ANY time in the next 50 years
Good one, anon. Do you have a schedule for your stand-up routines in comedy clubs? You could be the next Slobnick Vodklovachik.
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>>64358667
See here
https://oec.world/en/profile/country/jor
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>>64359200
They can sell off their oil/gas reserves, territorial concessions, give up what's left of their military/space know-how, etc. Russia still has a ton of resources
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>>64359178
most countries have tigers
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>>64359324
to whom will they sell those things?
not even china wants the carry over sanctions from openly buying russian shit
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>>64359056
>thathappened.jpg
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>>64359349
You're thinking of cougars.
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>>64359352
China buys hundreds of billions worth of Russian oil/gas right now.
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>>64358675
>hard to believe the whole world is scamming China now
>heh, those suckers
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>>64358211
Sounds like it's time to field test anti-satellite technology. Militarily speaking.
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>>64358425
>China has stopped selling high-precision machine tools to russia.
They'll probably just send them to Kazakhstan where the local dealership will hand them over to the Russians.
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>>64358260
Russia benefiting is ancillary; for China, this is basically a military exercise and also lets them get their hooks into how the Russians operate.

>>64359070
>>64359169
No, he's right. A cult of personality and an iron grip just raises the threshold - and for Russia, this threshold is best described as "apocalyptic", worse than the 90s. If and when it gets to the point where Muscovites are starving and freezing and unemployed and desperate people are being shot by the police for """rioting""" a la Bloody Sunday, the dam will start to crack.
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>>64359037
Its Putin's own fault for annexing those regions in the first place. Now, because they are legally part of Russia, he couldn't trade them for peace/the Donbass even if he wanted to (though considering the attempted offensive on Sumy, he probably doesn't want to). Now he is stuck with 2 regions where he doesn't control the capitals. He didn't even manage to secure the water for crimea.
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>>64358717
>Chinese century of humiliation ended
>Russian century of humiliation beginning
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>>64358211
>flew over the Lviv region 9 times today from 00:00 to 11:30
...yeah but i mean, they orbit the earth in predictable patterns right? Wouldn't they always have had this periodicity? Or do these sats carry enough with them to alter their inclinations?
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>>64358425
China only thinks of China.
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>>64358540
I wanted to visit Sakhalin but the drunken smelly Russian wanted $900 for three days to visit their TIGER island
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>>64358588
That is about historical justice. It is lands stolen from them.
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>>64358260
It really is a puzzling situation as Russia has approx 25 intel sats in orbit at the moment. Approximately 12 are optical/synthetic apperature radar surveillance satellites so I am not sure why they want chinese help. :-/

>>64358211
https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/10/05/8001337/
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>>64360125
>legally part of Russia, he couldn't trade them for peace/the Donbass even if he wanted to
Duuufe, in Russia presidency is limited to 2 terms by Constitution.
Putin on his 5th term now, and he extended term length to 6 years when it requires Constitutional Assembly but he did without it.
Putin can do whatever he wants.
Oh and waging aggressive conquest law is a felony in Russia for all participants.
Don't talk about law in Russia ever again.
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>>64359056
And then everyone clapped, chinkshill.
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>>64358649
> Their sub tech is still relevant
It isn’t.
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>>64358393
>>'giving' 1970s knowledge to a 2020s tech country
Nta, but I think he clearly meant rocket technology in general. The DF-1 was a licensed-built R-2 and the DF-2 was a not(TM)-a-SS-3-Shyster. The Chinese went their own way after the Sino-Soviet Split but the Two Bombs, One Satellite had a lot of Russian DNA in it.
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>>64358588
>>Caring about some uninhabited lands in Siberia when the hegemony over the entire world is at stake
imagine China doing something foolish like that haha.
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>>64360332
Does more than 1/3 of the world's sea trade go through those empty lands in Siberia and does China and East Asian countries get most of their gas and oil shipments from It?
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>>64360175
>Russian century of humiliation
*It's called* the Time of Troubles 2: Monke Business
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>>64360359
Yes, chinanon. I'm sure using DDGs to bully Filipino fishermen is going to get the world to agree you have legal ownership of all boats or something.
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China hasn't forgiven Russia for the Sixty-Four Villages incident. It's only a matter of time before the humiliation is repaid.
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>>64359169
>but Putin himself is like a god.
All Tsars are. Right up until the moment they suddenly aren't.
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>>64360359
You do know it would just take a day to sail around it?
It is the best way, not the only way
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>>64358588
Cool, now send one, that doesn't compare just China and USA
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>>64360440
I feel like that map is from 10+ years ago considering that it's showing that Russia still has the majority of it's trade with the EU... Which wasn't true even before 2022...
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>>64360386
yeah its not there have been any high profile incidents of state actors fucking with busy shipping lanes to achieve geopolitical goals recently or anything
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>>64360445
maybe you should stop relying on feelings and start looking for facts
Russia's 2021 trade volume with the EU was more than double its trade with China
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>>64360445
>Which wasn't true even before 2022...
Except it was
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>>64360446
Yes, yes, chinanon. Chinese century, Uphold Xi Jinping Thought, blurry picture of something very implessive, etc., etc.
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>>64360454
>>64360450
Ok I was wrong. But still, that still dates it to before 2022, and a lot has changed since then. And no wonder Russia got fucked so hard, they could have diversified some of their trade with their Chinese "allies" before the invasion, but made no effort to do so, confident that they could get Europe to bend the knee.
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>>64358211
welp there it is then, Cold War 2.0 escalated another notch

>>64358260
buddy, at this point talking about Russia giving China tech is like the French in 1918 saying they were giving America aid in their war fifty years ago; it's no longer at all relevant to the current technological and economic situation
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>>64360247
China has hundreds and they're better quality to boot, Russia has a dozen. Do the math
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>based China, Russia and NK: we invade you and share resources
>the US, EU: nooo we can't help you against genocidal invasion because we don't want to escalate also Russia helped Trump get elected and we don't want to spend money...
pathetic
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>>64360480
>welp there it is then, Cold War 2.0 escalated another notch
How so? China has been providing russia with intel long time ago.
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>>64360490
assuming this is true of course
might be that China just happened to take a greater interest in the conflict for their own purposes. it's happened before.
(if the US had moved assets to cover the region then it's virtually certain that's their true objective, to observe the capability of American assets)

>China has been providing russia with intel long time ago
if they had, Russia wouldn't have completely cocked up their target locating and mission planning. we know that China didn't provide them with intel at least in the first year of the war or so because Russia's strike inaccuracy was consistent with their limited recon assets
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>>64360498
>assuming this is true of course
I read news China provided Wagner with satellite data when they were relevant.
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>>64360486
>please ignore the AWACS circling over the Black Sea for the last 3 1/2 years or they'll dock my pay many crore
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>>64360519
>bbut the EU is flying AWACS over Baltics!
Yeah, truly the help Ukraine needs.
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>>64360485
No bully, but your numbers are off my friend. The disparity isn't that large. When you lump all types (ELINT/RORSAT/optical/SAR/nav/Comm/Early Warning/Inspektor/etc) into one category such as "Military", exact numbers are fuzzy but it's around 140 vs 110 (China vs Russia). Again, that's military specific.

I harbour no doubts that many of the chinese earth observation and domestic comm sats have potential military use in times of need.

As for better quality, I haven't been able to verify your unbacked claim yet. But i'm intrigued by that, I'll have to dig through my catalogs later but I think they (China) is pretty much on par now. Definitely not so 10 - 15 years ago.
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>>64360523
I think I see the problem here. The Baltic and Black seas both start with the same letter, which I imagine could be confusing if you're more familiar with the Devanagari script, but they're actually two different places.
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>>64360537
So what does it do anyway, AWACS just scans air space which does nothing to help Ukraine. No?
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>>64360175
Russia has been in a state of humiliation for its entire history.
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>>64360542
Yeah information is useless, no one could possibly profit from knowing what is in the air.
Did your parents have any children that lived?
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>>64360558
How does that prevent bomb from being falling?
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>>64360564
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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huh? it's a satellite, not a plane/drone. They can't really make them fly to specific places after they achieve an orbit, that'd be hilariously inefficient
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>>64360582
>They can't really make them fly to specific places after they achieve an orbit, that'd be hilariously inefficient
wrong
military satellites often have a store of fuel to move them into different orbits. the store is limited and as far as I know refueling is not possible, so it has to be conserved over the lifespan of the satellite. but they are used.
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>>64360633
Pretty much all satellites have a reserve of fuel for station keeping.
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>>64360427
None of the czars were dislodged from power by the people, at best by the other nobles. Hence new nobles class was replaced by people who are obliged to putin.
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>>64360657
Alexander II
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>>64360633
you're right, but that is sitll incredibly inefficient since it'd affect the hell out of the satellites lifespan - that fuel is used to account for the orbit decay, since they still lose energy up there, ever so slowly. And they don't really have a large storage of that fuel, since that's additional mass to account for when launching them into orbit in the first place
and the only reasons I can come up with to do this kind of a maneuver are 1. you need information STAT 2. you already dont have pissload of satellites up there
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>>64358649
They cannot have afforded to keep their nukes. You could say "THERE ISN'T NONE ACTUALLY 7 ARE FINE!!!!" and yeah I guess.
lol
neo-non-nuclear state cope.
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Don't the soviets/russians have the best spy satellites?
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>>64360552
Russia IS a state of humiliation.
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>>64358540
>>64360219
Sakhalin has some of the largest oil and gas reserves in the world. China would be dumb (it is) to not covet it. It was Chinese then Japanese then Russian. It is the most savage and violent who are rewarded with infinite wealth and power. Russians have fully eradicated or kicked out all non russians there. It's always surprising how China a meek slave race country still has so much territory when they could have easily been eradicated and replaced like the natives of central/north asia and the americas. The 8 powers did start to colonize China and weed out the yellows but then they began to fight each other and the lucky chink bastards were saved.
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The US and EU are pussies.
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>>64360840
just try us then faggot
il-y-a une bombe atomique avec ton nom, sale pedo.
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>>64360840
>pussies
no doubt that's why Russia is unable to make headway in Ukraine; they're unaccustomed to it, like the Spartans of old
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>Three Chinese reconnaissance satellites flew over the Lviv region 9 times today
did they change course to do that? if so holy fuck
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>>64358211
As someone that understands orbits I wish whoever wrote this understood orbits.
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>>64361065
>The chink dota players used their parents connections to pinpoint Dendi and paint "NO FOUNTAIN HOOK FOR YOU" on a Kinzhal.
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>>64361065
That's standard for espionage satellites.
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>>64361185
It's really isn't, inclination changes take a shitload of delta-v for tiny changes.
It's much more common for them to be in sun-synchronous orbit meaning the cover the entire earth every 24 hours without any fuel used.
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>>64359453
I think about cougars every day
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>>64358376
>I just wonder how much monke is needing to whore his nation's resources out for the privilege
He could probably just threaten to retreat from Ukraine and China would provide the intel for free to prop up the war.
It's very much in China's interests for the west to be preoccupied with supporting Ukraine at the expense of Russian blood and treasure.

Also, Chinese drone makes need the war to continue because they're having a very, very good decade.
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>>64361318
chink economy is receiving a huge boost from cheap russian oil too
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>>64358493
>China spy satellites must still be using film rolls
What's the price of quantum film rolls anyway?
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>>64361324
bit less than jewish space lasers, bit more than lightspeed motorcycle couriers
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>>64358282
why would they need updated satellite information for that tho?
its not like you can relocate power stations or bridges or railyards, or even build them at a pace that would require fast information to be provided.
if they're not using that data to track dynamic targets like supply depots or F16s or air defense sites they're kind of wasting them.
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>>64359056
Why aren't you telling us what the mainlanders asked of the islanders? Interesting omission...
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>>64361330
>lightspeed motorcycle couriers
Imagine the possibilities.

Imagine if Russian motorcycle assaults were met with Ukrainian lightcycle defenders.
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>>64358211
>NAFO_FELLA
ouch
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>>64361318
In a way the war is propping up the chink economy as well. Cheap oil like >>64361321
said and dual use exports
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>>64360301
Rank sub tech by country excluding the US
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>>64361616
>buck broken
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>>64358425
Why would they sell Russia the advanced tools?
It's much better for China to keep Russia dependent on finished Chinese products. Russia has long stopped being an equal partner in this relationship.
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>>64361324
It varies until you observe the price tag.
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>>64361206
>inclination changes take a shitload of delta-v for tiny changes
To put it in perspective, the NASA report after the Columbia Roman candle stated that even if they had known about the damage in orbit, they couldn’t have reached the ISS because it would have taken something ridiculous like 10000 m/s of delta-v and they had less than a tenth of that on the shuttle.
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>>64361762
UK
Germany
Sweden
France
Japan
Italy
Big fucking power gap
China
Competency gap
Russia
India

Probably some others I’ve forgotten.
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>>64362005
UK subs are in reality just us subs. Therefore, they should be excluded as well
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>>64362027
Heavy is the back that moves the goalposts
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>>64358704
The Chinese are ultra hyper mega Jews. They put profit over absolutely everything.
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>>64358211
>chinks do a low rent version of what the US has been doing for almost four years now
Big woop.
I don't know who is more pathetic ziggers or actual globohomo shills. I guess i might be ziggers who shill for gulaghomo, if only that pretending to not be faggy while secretly being a flamer is worse since it compounds disgusting homo behaviors with lies and self-deception.

https://planet4589.org/space/stats/pay.html
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>>64358704
And given that their jewish Caricatures were often understatements that's saying something. Unlike jews the Chinks aren't even ethnic nepotists, they treat each other the way jews would like to treat whites.
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>>64358588
Didn't Go get almost instantly dominated by machine learning while Chess is till holding out somewhat?
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>>64362320
It's actually the opposite. The world's best chess player was beat by Deep Blue in 1997, while the best Go player were not beaten until 2016 by AlphaGo.
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>>64358481
Nixon really was pure evil
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>>64362486
>Nixon
Nixon was a happy executor of the Sino horsehshit in the 70s. Kissinger and his assorted types were the architects of it.
The Chinese fuckery is *one* of the many reasons I'll never understand how anyone who unironically worships at the alter of Kissinger (or Brzezinski for that matter) doesn't get immediately laughed out of any serious consideration, regarding anything international affairs related.
>inb4 muh "shrewd" and "pragmatic" and "rEaL PoLiTiK"
Being too-clever-by-a-half just means you're retarded with pizazz.
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>>64360427
lol, Nicholas looks like he's doing a wicked magic trick and the soldiers are kneeling out of respect
>"Is this your icon?"
>>"uh, no"
>"really? how about you check your comrades' ass?"
>tfw it was in the designated trap's rectum the entire time
>>64361080
as someone who doesn't understand orbits, could you explain the retardation please?
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>>64362475
It's not about beating the game against the best humans. It's about "solving" it AKA no matter what moves the human choose to do, the computer will win. In that sense, checkers are solved, as in small board Go. Chess and big board Go have an insane amount of possibilities and are as such not solvable with current tech.
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>>64362580
>In that sense, checkers are solved, as in small board Go
Connect4 is solved too, though in an unsatisfactory way.
It has a set of about seven rules to follow and then a library of end-game configurations that lead to a win or stalemate depending on colour.
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>>64362514
>Kissinger and his assorted types were the architects of it
obligatory
KISSINGER BURNS IN HELL
post

please carry on
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>>64361080
Shilling is more important. It should be obvious that in current year they're forced to add CHYANA BAD
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>>64360564
No way this isn't bait
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>>64362708
>No way this isn't bait
I think it's an ironic chinkshill and therefore correctly identified as bait.
>>64360573 seems to have responded appropriately and terminated the chain of trolling.
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>>64360445
Oh man, it is going to be a rough life for you my uneducated friend
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>>64362536
Satellites adjusting their inclination (their angle relative to the equator) takes a shitload of fuel.
To change the inclination by just 24 degrees in a 600km orbit takes ~3,300 m/s which is the same amount it takes to get from a 600km Earth orbit to the moon.
Instead recon satellites generally use a sun-synchronous orbit passing over every part of earth at the same time of day every 24 hours, if that's too long to wait just add more satellites to the same orbit, 24 satellites gets you every party of earth covered every hour.
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>>64358260
russia has only 9 spy sats that covers the whole world 5 of which are from the 90s
usa has 129 military sats up there in general
lets say a healthy 60% is isr
china has 981(as per july) military sats up there
even if you say a 30% is isr thats more than russia and usa combined
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>>64365306
There are more than 180 starshield satellites
What a bizarre lie to tell
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>>64365379
do you even know what starshield is?
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>>64365414
Please explain to me how they aren't military satellites.
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>>64365420
i ofc didnt include gnss on any of them because they do not conduct isr
unless you somehow are claiming that they are optical and or SAR capable sats
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>>64365424

> i ofc didnt include gnss on any of them because they do not conduct isr
You guessed randomly a proportion of a hand picked subset of satellites
Why are you even talking?
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>>64365429
do you think im stupid or something?

get real and stop being a crybaby
gnss isnt capable of conducting isr end of story
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>>64365438
>do you think im stupid or something?
Yes, why do you ask?
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>>64360844
Je voulais acheter une Rafale en pelouche il y a quelques mois mais pas du stock :(
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>>64366440
yes it's very cute I want to buy one for my little cousin
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>>64365306
There are more than 20,000 military sats up for the US, Anon. And way less than 981 for the Chinese.
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>>64368175
So you're counting SpaceX's WiFi routers as spy satellites?
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>>64358425
Russia can't use advanced anything much less tools
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>>64368301
anon there's about 8000 starlink satellites
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>>64360740
japanese were well on their way of subjugating entire china. But US saved them from that fate

Even as late as 1944 IJA was conducting successful operations to expand occupied clay

>>64361318
>>64361321
>because they're having a very, very good decade.
??
they are in a recession right now. Youth unemployment was speeding towards 40% before the data got classified. Factories get constantly torched from wage disputes as owners start to scam workers by with holding pay. as there is always a new chinaman to replace. Masters degrees in STEM graduate and go straight to delivery driving (only job they can find). Living on scooter and sleeping under bridges etc

If you were serious I think you might have gotten bamboozled by CCP propaganda. War in ukraine is useful for enslaving vatnikstan and keeping west busy but other then that they are far more fragile then their propaganda leads you to believe. Same as vatniks
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>>64368444
k nvm. you were talking about the drone makers specifically. general picture ain't that rosy and emperor Xi is by all decision making accounts a chinese version of monke. Same mindset and stupidity that is
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>>64361318
I'd argue it's the opposite, now instead of basically just the US China is going to have the rest of NATO rearmed and ready for a war because monke has somehow made this shit take so long even Euros have finally gotten their lazy asses back into rearming.
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>>64368451
Indeed he is, we're very likely to see a desperate grab for Taiwan in the next ten years for various reasons, number one of which is Winnie being a retard
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>>64368464
>gangster mentality
>surrounding himself with yes men
>getting bad news means shooting the messenger
>reluctant to be decisive
>whenever makes big, public decisions, its the most retarded option. like zero coof
>wants territorial conquests because that is what great emperors/tzars/kings do in history books
guess the fate of monke is going to influence his behavior going forward. but yeah, the similarities to the kremlin monke are uncanny
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>>64368444
>Even as late as 1944 IJA was conducting successful operations to expand occupied clay
Erm, dude? Ichi-Go was effectively a banzai charge on a strategic level. They emptied out their own occupied rear areas for one last big push to attempt to get the United Front to capitulate, accepting that the results would be catastrophic if it failed to outright win the war. And it did fail, and ultimately just resulted in Maos commies having an absolute blast eviscerating the Japs' supply lines going through those same now largely unprotected rear areas, leaving him looking like a hero while the nationalists took the brunt of it all.

Like, Ichi-Go was never going to win the war for the Japs, but it arguably did win the war for the PLA.
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>>64359324
lol
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>>64359324
>They can sell off their oil/gas reserves
They can't, tho. Logistics infrastructure is too underdeveloped to deliver. Their stores of crude are literally flowing over, while they can't refine or sell it off. And shutting down the wells means shutting 'em down forever.
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>>64368444
>>64368451
2 fucking morons
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