Is Sig ever coming back from the 320 backlash and improve their reputation? their other products are by no means perfect, and there are no perfect guns they all have their caviats, but things like the Xmacro are so good that sucks how their PR deparment shat the bed.
sure is funny how p320s stopped going off after that one air force guy got arrested.
the fact that the p320 has gone through like 2 or 3 separate incidents where it was found to not be drop safe plus the fact that sig is up to some kikery with the us military means i'll never buy a sig in my life
>>64358563One ADed at a match a week ago though
>there are no perfect gunsEvery Glock model is objectively perfect anon.
>>64358576if you're gonna say that stuff at least post the link to the news article.
>>64358549Kys gun grabber>>64358580gl-ACK is nufuddslop
>>64358595The mental gymnastics antiglock days have to go through to defend objectively worse guns never fails to entertain
>>64358575Plus all of their voluntary and stealth upgrades over the years. All of that and the 320 is still a mess
>>64358576A woman.And both her and her husband said she did nothing wrong. And her husband said he had 90k rounds on his.Not sketchy at all.
>>64358549How could any of the seething, defeatist, terminally negative, noguns, noshoots turbofaggots on this God forsaken board know? And why would you ask them?
>>64358580Glocks aren't perfect you fanboy, they have issues with feeding systems, eject and even to fire bullets, plus the material used to make them are average AT BEST. Glock 44 and 19 are some of the most troublesome ones so don't come here with that bullshit.
>>64358549handgun contrarians move in a perfect circle around Glock, right now the clock hands are at the M&P, moving steadily to Dagger but I suspect in about 2 or 3 years the contrarians will come back around to Sig after a brief H&K period.
>>64358563Untrue. It's just getting old so people aren't making 10 yt videos per week about it anymore.
>>64358549This entire board is a circlejerking glock fest, that's because the poorfags here can only afford those.
>>64358647basically every flagship pistol costs the same nowadays.
>>64358647>poorfags buy glocksglocks are too expensive, for me it's the sd9ve. >nooooo you gotta spend $2,000 on a staccato you just have to
>>64358624Every gun ever has these issues in the margin lmfao. If you're actually counting these as Glock issues, every other brand has them a hundred fold. Fucking goon hahahaha
>>64358549Ask Kimber
>>64358879>whataboutismNot an argument fanboy, glocks are cheap for a reason and that is a fact no matter how hard you try to cope. Other brands have minor problems or just one or 2 products being defective, glock is literally the mcdonalds of handguns. Try again sweetie.
>>64358627Agreed but aren't people going rxm since it's arguably going to be a more supported Glock with magpuls backing?
>>64358909What is a good handgun?
>>64358909Not a whataboutism. What you described is something EVERY gun has. Glock has it less than any other gun, by a significant margin. Deal with it geek.
>>64358936>Beretta 92, APX, VP9, Glock 17 Gen 5, USP, M&P9, PDP, Glock 19 Gen 5Easy
>>64358992Forgot the Glock 26
>>64358627>moving steadily to DaggerNo, the dagger is low quality. I've seen so many buy a dagger and then can't get glock parts to drop in.
>>64358549>Is Sig ever coming back from the 320 backlash and improve their reputation?First of all, their reputation hasn't suffered too badly. early gen MPX, MCX, Cross, and P365 all had problems and they still have tons of fanboys and make tons of sales. Second of all, even if their reputation was as bad as you claim, people have short memories; if they improve and a decade passes, it will be as if there was no problem in the first place. Look at Kimber; they fixed their reputation (and QC) after Ron Cohen left, and now there are people convinced that "the guns never had problems, and it was just haters spreading memes."
>>64358549no they're not, because the p320 was only one of a myriad of problems with that jewish company assembling guns with parts made by indian sand niggers covered in cow shit. try getting a real firearm.
>>64359095>their reputation was as bad as you claimWait until the full story of the XM7 comes out.
>>64358627Thank God my striker-fired 9mm Glock substitute is so obscure that you can't even make fun of it :)
>>64359047Well I was going by Full Size 9mm guns, and while technically the Glock 19 is not a full size, it does shoot like one and has similar capacity to guns bigger than it.Also if we weren't trashing Sig, I'd include the P226, and I am considering one next year
>>64359104>Wait until the full story of the XM7 comes out.The M7 is another poorly designed MCX shooting a cartridge that's an inferior rip-off of Shellshock's NAS3 patent. It's bad, but everyone who already saw how awful the MCX was knew it was coming. As long as the M250 is good (that remains to be seen), the military will continue to cover up the shortcomings of the NGSW program.
>>64358563Maybe you stopped paying attention after that, but it literally happened again LAST WEEK, you fucking sigger.
>>64359114i cba to list all the copes that handgun-as-a-personality types use, sorry lil nigga
>>64358627Only the poorest of the poor would ever consider a dagger. There will never be any sort of massive movement towards PSA’s handguns.
>>64359047>>ForgotNo, he didn’t forget, he just doesn’t have the hands of a 9 year old girl
>>64359157Thanks for letting everyone know you've never shot a G26.
>>64359102/threadSuck it, (((shills)))krav maga is a joke
>>64358549I doubt it since people really despised what Sig did in terms of both the issue and the handling thereof for the same reason why people loved Sig in the first place: its past reputation.Sig had a strong reputation for quality products like the Sig P226 and then not only did they release a defective product that they once recalled but the problems resurfaced, they tried to cover it up and play the victim of "frivolous lawsuits.">>64358595Dooby has a message for you.
A friend of mine has an early P320 which has never been "repaired" and it's never had any issues nor is it unsafe at all. I think the problem is retarded operators. It's like being surprised that a moron let loose on a forklift can kill someone. Absolutely ridiculous.
>>64359346>sample size: 1 (one) thats it boys, pack it up
>>64359353All I'm saying is that annoying Glock fanboys are spreading misinformation about the P320 and Sig has spent boatloads of money making the gun worse for no reason at all. They were NEVER unsafe. There is NOTHING wrong with the P320's design.
>>64359179G26 sucks ass everyone goes for the 43X these days. >inb4 mag sharing If you’re going to be using extended mags in a 26 you might as well just get a 19.
>>64359359Glock guzzlers will defend their poorly made cheap ass handgun with their lives. Just look how many fagboys came out of the woods to say that glock deserves the military contract lmao.
>>64358549No, Sig is going bankrupt RIGHT NOW. And then the US military will give Glock the military contract, and after THAT Trump will write and EO requiring the M4 to be used for the next 1000 years so LARPerators don't have to learn a new platform ever.
>>64359413Wrong, SIG USA is by far the most successful and profitable firearms manufacturer in the entire industry. Quit promoting antigun sentiment
>>64359431>retard can't sense sarcasmGod dammit.
>>64359134>>64358631>>64358576h'aint none of you'll even posted links
>>64359374The Glock submission to the trials was an enormous piece of shit. There's a reason they didn't pick it. Glockgers are mad about this.
>>64359047retards on /k/ actually got psyopped into thinking that dumb squirt gun was actually good. its IN SANE how easy it is to bully people on this board into buying a specific memegun or accessory
What is the correct choice for a striker-fired pistol that absolutely not a single person would make fun of if you told them about it?
>>64359575yeet cannonnext question
>>64359575If you care about what others think of your pistol then you are too autistic to own a gun
lol my lgs had a sign on the front door last time i went that said they are no longer buying or selling 320s
>>64359593I'm not, I'm asking a question. What is your answer?
>>64359157the proportions are so odd. the grips are both short and fat so it just feels weird. the single stack micro 9 trend has essentially made this style of subcompact obsolete
>>64359624>>64359591
>>64359363Even with mag extension the 26 is significantly smaller while still shooting like a 19. The 43x shoot like shit in comparison.
>>6435956126 is sick, seethe fatty
>>64359630Noguns alert
>>64359630It’s a fucking chode, I don’t get why it has such a cult like following with you contrarian faggots. I work at a gun shop and I’ve had like one guy looking for a 26 in the past several months, while it’s pretty normal to sell a couple of 43X’s in a day. The 43X is the better, more popular gun so you have to like something different to be special.
I really like my M18, but I also really like not getting shot.
It won't be repaired, but it won't matter unless the military dumps SIG after the contract ends.
>>64359633Own three glocks, two rugers, two smiths. Glock shoot and feel the best, and the double stacks feel much better than the 43x. Seethe kek>>64359641>The 43X is better because... It's more popular ok!God I fucking hate gun store fags so much.
What is the actual appeal of SIG? They have some cool historical models, the rest of their stuff is basic and sleep-inducing as hell. They don't even sell the 550 in the US so their best thing isn't even acquirable to normal people who don't want to pay pre-ban prices. H&K has their GWOT war crime chic, Glock is Glock, what does SIG have other than hollow fanboyism and rapidly deteriorating quality control?>inb4 they workOk, so does every other gun that isn't a known piece of shit. Why SIG specifically though? Are people just in love with the brand that much?
>>64359714The numbers don’t lie, and I’ll say it’s not necessarily the 26 as it is subcompact Glocks in general. The 26, 27, 29, 30, etc., are so unpopular we don’t even stock them in store anymore, they’re only available as an online order.
SIG people are like GM people get a clue nigger lol
>>64359734>t. ford cuck
>>64359742Technically, but it's a car from 20 years ago and I wouldn't trust anything of theirs now. Or anyone's because all new cars are specifically designed to be shit.
>>64359732Literally the only reason people are clocking to the 43x is because single stack is popular right now. It's an objectively less pleasant pistol to shoot, and is also less concealable due to the long grip. Just because people are buying the current fad club doesn't mean the 26 is inferior. You deserve the minimum wage you make.
>>64359795>because single stack is popular right now.completely out of touch with society>and is also less concealablethe x maybe but the normal 43 is about as wide as a phone.
>>64359102Glocks literally turned into IEDs and Glock had to mass recall several different iterations of pistols because theh all turned jntk glocknades you seething newfaggot>>64358647People jack off to Glocks because Police trade-ins are literal dirt cheap and while nobody will think you've got hot shit if you got a glock, they won't think ill of you either.Glock PD trade in is the minimal viable buyin for someone looking for a gun. Its the BCM AR15 if you could buy it at PSA prices. And because every fucking loser twink wanting to larp oper8t0r makes their first purchase their entire identity, and ypu end up spending new Glocm prices to get a Gen 3 G19 into not sucking territory, you get the cult of Glock. A gaggle of poor idiota with sunk cost fallacy over a literal fucking tubberware gun
>>64359815>Glocks literally turned into IEDsthis nigga really trying to play the glocknade card in 2025.
>>64359714You're too much of a manlet for a 19 so you carry a 26? Cringe, g19 or GTFO faggot
>>64359815>Glocks literally turned into IEDsYou mean the initial run of .40 models in the 90s? The cartridge that other manufacturers also fucked up? Substantiate yer claim fatty
>>64359807Nobody is talking about the 43. Also I like the part where you totally just ignore the fact that it's shit to actually shoot or practice with.
>>64359815Imagine caring one iota about what another gun owner thinks of your gun.. fucking lmaaaoooooooo
>>64359795There is no world where a stock 26 is as pleasant to shoot as a stock 43X. Post hands.
>have an ok but not great first gen> 2nd gen is unironically one of the best striker fired duty pistols of all time How did S&W do it?
you are fucking SEETHING you COCKSUCKER
>>64359575USP, probably
>>64359726In the case of the P320, it's the FCU-based modularity with a lot of aftermarketIn the case of the MCX, it's because somehow, it outperforms other competitors in testing (probably durability, definitely not accuracy), particularly with shorter suppressed variants.The Cross bridges the gap between hunting and precision shooting. Not as heavy as PRS rifles, more featured than regular hunting rifles, probably right at home in NRL-type matches.Their MSR series is still king of the poors, although Arken is probably right there with them.Their thermals are competitive.
>>64358563lollmao
>>64359944>striker-fired>>64359575Walther PDPlook up any review and literally everyone says it's the best stock striker-fired trigger they've ever felt
>>64359938By fixing every problem that glock has>Better trigger>Better grip texture, angle, and backstrap choices>Better sights>Better optics mount>Better rail>Better mag release>Better safetyAnd most importantly of all:>Not made by noguns eurostanis or niggers from atlana
>>64359575P99>>64360024I can't help but feel like the PDP is kind of hideous. In fact everything Walther has made since the P99 has been ugly.
>>64359511>lots of people use P320>significantly large group of those people get injured by the secret shake awake feature>lots of people stop using Penis remover model three hundred 10+10>reports of people getting injured by secret shake awake feature goes down Really gets the >80 IQ individuals' noggin joggin. But then again, what COHEN you expect from a dalit. Matter of fact, I think I'm gonna get a well marbled, one inch thick ribeye for dinner tomorrow and season that fucker with garlic salt, cayenne pepper, and a dash of cajun seasoning. >inb4 you're not supposed to carry with 1 in the chamber Kill yourself, shylock.
>>64358549>and there are no perfect guns Ever heard of the 1911, son?
>>64359359
>>64358549They won't get any government contracts anymore unless due to corruption, which Cohen engages in a lot of, quid pro quo deals. Civilians will still buy them, so they'll basically become a Ruger. Not high enough quality to really bet your life on but decent enough for range toys and civilian carry guns.
>>64358549Title: Why the “Three Rules” Are for Beginners — Professionals Know BetterLook, I’m not trying to start a fight here, but I think a lot of you guys need to broaden your understanding of firearm handling beyond what they teach in your NRA 101 course. The so-called Three Rules of Gun Safety (you know, “keep your finger off the trigger,” “don’t point the muzzle at anything you’re not willing to destroy,” etc.) are great for beginners, sure — but for those of us who operate in more dynamic environments, they’re frankly too restrictive.When you’re doing advanced manipulation drills, competing, or operating tactically (some of you wouldn’t understand), you can’t always treat the weapon like it’s loaded. Sometimes you need to flag your own body or others momentarily to maintain flow. The professionals know this. Watch any high-level operator run a course — finger’s already on the trigger before the sight picture’s even formed. That’s not “unsafe,” that’s efficiency.Rule #2 about “never pointing a gun at anything you don’t want to destroy” — okay, well tell that to someone clearing a tight hallway or moving through a live-fire shoothouse. You have to accept a little risk if you want to move fluidly. That’s the difference between a hobbyist and someone who’s trained.And before anyone jumps on me, yes, safety is important — but so is realism. The “rules” were written for people who don’t understand the nuances of tactical gunfighting. Real operators have muscle memory and situational awareness that allow them to bend those rules.The problem is, a lot of you cling to those three rules like they’re scripture. They’re not. They’re training wheels. Once you learn balance, you take them off.Anyway, just some food for thought from someone who’s spent a lot of time on the range doing more than just punching holes in paper.— Ballistics_Savant89
>>64360335>PDP is kind of hideousi really like the PDPs aggressive looksthe raised honeycomb grips is not only functional and feels nice, but it's unique and looks way better than the generic sand paper on most modern polymers, and way better than the genital warts bumps on P99the grip texture is easily the worst part of the P99P99 slide has nice lines but it's too flat and plain and looks dated, unlike something like the USP which is also flat but has much more beautiful lines PDP slide isn't as romantic as either, but far more functionally aggressivemy favorite part of the P99 is its silhouette, which is similar to the compact PDP
>>64358576>>64358587https://youtu.be/364DHpxoqic?si=a4YIVcIBnNa1cH7G
>>64358549>PistolDead in the streets, AR15 or GTFO normalfag
>>64360024>best stock triggerProbably, new m&p feels the same. Pro trigger is separate unless you buy pro model. They don't include red dot mounting plate. You have to get a heavy guide rod and lighter rocoil spring. Out of the box is way too much muzzle flip. Its also ugly. Other than that, great pistol
>>64359807>the normal 43 is about as wide as a phone.What the fuck kind of phone are you carrying that is 27mm thick? My phone is less than half that thickness with a case on it.
>>64360528nope sorry. all those people had specific occasions they were talking about and they didn't post links so im gonna assume they were made up.
>>64361170>27mm thicki meant height.
>>64361270>I was only pretending to be retardedDid something blow up in puccia?
>>64361276just trying to have a conversation, man
>>64358549Apparently they got a CEO who's got a history of wrecking the companies he's working for, so I guess whichever investment company will acquire them here after will pick up the slack.
>>64359819>>64359900>>64359928>But call the Glocknigger poor, and watch how he recoils, "Ive been found out" he utters.
>>64360528You got a source for the webm?
>>64361774Only people that call anyone poor are nigger rich minimum wage cucks.
>>64362204>He said pearl clutching his 350$ police trade in Gen 3 Glock 19, that he spent another 300$ turning it into a Gen 5 Glock 19>"I-I-I'M N-N-N-OT P-P-P-POOR">He stutters like the faggot he is, poor oozing from every noun and verb of the verbal defense of his poverty driven purchase>"Y-YOU ARE P-P-P-P-OOR AND A NIGGER">Drafts the intellectual might of the Glock fanboy, smugly. That the observation of a dearth of wealth and intellect, one compounding upon the other tragicallyin his case, was the hallmark, the proverbial mark of Satan branded upon his Antichrist>The man who could afford newly manufactured firearms made in firdt world countries>So Ironic that Glock would later charge $666 plus tip for a generation 6 Glock 19, that be both uncompatable with previous generation parts despite changing nothing except for the addition of standard metal sights instead of the Cult of Glock previously assured "perfectly adequate" polymer sights>Anon would later cope that his PD Gen 3 was still "just as good" because he put on $80 dollar Ameriglo sights
>>64362204Can't afford a VP9? Sad! Many such cases.
>>64362263Cool blog post or whatever but I ain't reading that. >>64362290I could/can afford anything on the market, but I like glocks the most. Sowwy!
>>64358575This. I could understand if there was something unique about their products, but there's dozens of almost identical handguns that you could buy instead without worrying about shooting your dick off.
>>64362290what does the VP9 do better than the glog?
>>64358549What should I do with my p320? It's just sitting in my safe these days.
Acting like a gun purchase is a huge expenditure is one of the biggest signs of low net worth imo
>>64359960>The Cross bridges the gap between hunting and precision shooting.Anon, they were just copying Q's "fix" rifle. Plus if you really like these lightweight modular rifles pretty much every company is making one nowadays: Tikka T3x ACE, Savage Impulse Elite Precision, Desert Tech SRS, Ruger Precision, the "fix" (this was the original; too bad the company has horrible customer service), and hell, even the new Remington 700 is now being offered in a lightweight modular chassis (this was the gun that "the fix" tried to replace).>>64360906He defies SIG, and next thing you know, 2 random domestic violence/abuse accusations pop up out of nowhere against Ben. Really makes you think.
>>64358549Why cant they just add an internal safety that only disengages when the trigger is almost fully depressed?
>>64358576About two months ago in Ceres California a female school cop got injured by her P320 when the pistol went off inside the holster without being touched.They put out pics from the security cam, no idea if video was released yet.
>>64358549it really is a pity it has such shit internals cuz externally it's one of the most aesthetic modern pistol for me aside from the HK USPnot gay nigger enough to be a glock and not fudd enough to be a 1911
>>64364958>aestheticIt's as generic strikerslop as it gets, dude. It's not ugly strikerslop like a shield, but it's also not good looking.
>>64358904seems like their quality and reputation has improved steadily since they dropped cohen
>>64362567It is still a fun range toy as long as you make sure that you follow all the gun safety regulations.
>>64362727>Sig releases a bolt action>"ERM ACTSHEWALLLY SIG WAS COPPYING BASED KENNY QUMMIES AND ALSO DEY FRAME BEN STOEGER FOR BEING A RAPPIST CUS HE DON'T LIEK DEYRE GUN"Retard-kun, I...
>>64358936S&W K and L frame revolvers.
>>64368046Its almost as if I wrote two responses to two different messages LOL. And it's pretty well known that before Q's "fix," lightweight, modular bolt-action rifles existed but were generally semi-custom jobs. You had to buy a rifle and spend money on upgrading it or get a shop to sell you one that's already upgraded.
