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40 was never good though.
>>64363904Did .40 put down more dindus than any other round? Its been THE american police handgun caliber of choice for nearly 30 years, up to a few years ago when the FBI switched back to 9 and everyone followed suit
>>64363904Hop (>>64363976) and Boondock all in the same thread?What a day.
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>>64363976Well no, it stacked dindus when they were sold off as copsurp and ironically were picked up in droves by the very same nogs they were made to control. In yet an even greater twist of irony those old police 40s killed way more blacks in black hands than they ever did in cop use
>>64363904>40 short and weakless capacity than 9mm, less power than .45it's the worst of both worlds, and a prime example of why MODERN government calibers suck cock.
>>64364186If I read that retarded line one more goddamned time I'm going to give you a high velocity gender reassignment surgery
>>64364286>Retarded lineIs it wrong?Stop spamming "muh forty is the best" threads and you'll stop seeing it.
>>64364352Yes, 40 beats the shit out of 45 in all metrics except expansion and kicks the shit out of 9 in every way that actually matters. 40 is second only to 10mm (wow, insightful analysis I know) and is the most powerful round you can get in nearly whatever mainstream pistol design you want, unlike 10mm where you have your choice of>glock>1911>Italian CZ clone>converted 40 pistolsTo shit on 40 shows how little you know and how much you let others dictate for you what's acceptable or not. And to continue to parrot the "it's a midpoint between 9 and 45" boomerism is so abyssaly retarded I feel bad for your mother
>>64364186>40 strong and wonderfulmore power than 9mm, more capacity than .45it's the best of both worlds, and a prime example of why MODERN shitposters suck cock.
>>64364379>muh ballistic gel>muh spreadsheetsbitch nigga .40cal is trash, more recoil than 9mm, less capacity, and marginally better wounding performance on paper only9mm has been slotting faggots for over a century and it's not stopping any time soon. with +P 9mm rounds it completely negates any reason for .40 to exist.
This chick gives me the weirdest boner.
>>64364186>less capacity than 9mm, less power than .45More power than 9mm, more capacity than .45.Also in the event that you actually have to use your CCW, the chances that you'll empty your gun and reload is extremely small, and the chance that the 4 extra rounds in a 1-reload setup will make the difference is near-zero. The only reason not to use .45 honestly is just that 40 and 9mm grips are smaller and the guns are lighter.>>6436391340 was always good, just never buy a Glock which isn't a Gen5 in 40. HKs and Sigs are good in .40, and Glock finally made a good .40 with the Gen5s. In fact, the best 9mm Glock is a Gen5 23 with a 9mm conversion barrel.357sig is also excellent and owning a conversion barrel for whatever 40 you've got is a good idea.
>>64364417Amazing how everyone and everything that matters in this world disagree with what you've said. But no, the entire world is wrong and you are correct.Maybe if you post on a hungarian pastamaking forum about it for the next decade the world will finally understand and abandon 9mm and .45 once and for all.OR maybe you could huff some more spray paint and tell us all how great .357Sig is.
>>64364414>Chick>He doesn't know
>>64364443>mindbroken zoomie thinks every chick has a dickgood lord
>>64364443>>64364457Anyone associated with hop and assfacts is suspect af.
>>64364536leave Hop's bussy outta this, he's what we call "free use"
>>64364417Why are the gen 5 Glocks the only good ones in .40?I do notice my G22 is snappy and not as comfortable as my G17
Just shoot actual 10mm instead.
>>64364406This.>>only niggers like 40>> guess what that makes youPlease continue to shoot 40
>>64363904That's 14 minutes of "I'm too much of a bitch to handle 357 magnum", just carry a 9mm at that point
>>64364737everyone knows the .40SW was developed specifically for limp-wristed government pussies who couldn't handle the recoil of a .45ACP full frame pistol.
What would happen if you shot a 9mm bullet with a .40 S&W bullet? Which would win in mid-air?
>>64364680>heavier slides (.40 only)>longer spring travel (all gen 5s)That's just concerning recoil, there are a bunch of changes in the gen 5 which just make it better than any previous glocks. But in addition to all that the 40, for the first time, wasn't just a 9mm with a bigger hole punched in front of the slide.
There's just something really funny about the term .40 "Short and Weak".
>>64363904I thought she was cute at first but the more I see of her the less cute she looks to me.
There was never anything strictly wrong with .40 S&W, it works, but a popular opinion has been that its balance of qualities were never that great of a proposition. It's an opinion I've largely agreed with.It fits right between 9mm Luger and .45 Auto, and this was a gap which wasn't in a dire need of being filled. A bit more powerful than 9mm, but with lower capacity and appreciably more recoil, but also not as powerful as .45 anyway. 10mm Auto always made more sense to me because you were looking at something that'd typically be more powerful than both (or at least AS powerful as .45), but slimmer so that you could stack more rounds than .45, thus making the tradeoffs more worthwhile and appealing.>>64364414She's small and cute, yeah, but her content still isn't very interesting to me. I assume that .40 S&W is an appealing fit for her because it's a more powerful cartridge which she feels she can handle, given her light body weight.I understand it too, you just gotta roll with the body that you have (or can build, if you're a man), but the world has largely gotten over .40, so she's not preaching to a very big choir.Maybe if Asian countries started allowing for more private gun ownership, .40 S&W could get a second wind in the eastern world, it might be a similarly appealing proposition to the smaller statured people over there, but I imagine they wouldn't be disappointed with 9mm Luger either.>>64364737How much do you think she weighs? The recoil of 10mm Auto and .357 Magnum probably just IS too much for her for practical use.Unless you mean OP, in which case he should Git Gud.
>>64364414
.40 and .45 ACP are the two best handgun rounds available
>>64365440>tattoosWHORE!
>>643654559mm and 10mm are the two best handgun rounds available.
>FBI gets BTFO and wants a more powerful handgun round>10mm AUTO is created>women and deskjockeys who don't shoot don't pass their qualification, clearly this is the fault of this newfangled 10mm AUTO and has nothing to do with the fact we don't train>instead of going back to 9mm, they contract S&W to "fix" 10mm>"we cut down the brass so you can only get slightly worse 9mm performance, but with less capacity in a proprietary cartridge. That'll be 6 gorillion dollars + tip T: S&W".40 is the biggest, most worthless piece of shit round with literally 0 justification.
>>64365629Don't forget the stupidity of only bringing handguns to apprehend expert riflemen killers with a deathwish. Could have brought MP5s and M16s, also body armor, buuut they didn't figure it was necessary.>hmm, should we prepare for these suspects we know for a fact are VERY dangerous?>naaaaah>oh no, how could this happen? 9mm, this is your fault!
>>64364742And it was still too strong, so they switched to 9mm. Everyone who uses 9mm is a pussy.
>>64365629>you can only get slightly worse 9mm performanceIt has better performance. Not significantly so in the modern era, but the difference was more pronounced when first introduced. Not that you were alive back then.
>>64365629weren't the smiff 1076s cracking their slides?
>>64363913It's 10-20% more powerful and bigger than 9mm. Worth it for losing 2 rounds? You decide. I know what I want if a bear comes around. The recoil isn't noticeably different except in compact guns.
>>64365784Also
>>64365784Why .40 though when you can get the same capacity with 10mm and more power
>>6436581310s an expensive meme that beats the shit out of the gun unless it's a glock
>>64365747According to who, the S&W marketing department? .40 s&w is literally 9mm, except less mag capacity.>>64365754>>64365822It's not 10mm's fault the industry makes shit guns out of pig iron that can't handle the POWAHH OF THE CENTIMETER. On a serious note, they could just have done exactly what they fucking did, which was to downsize the gunpowder charge, except then they couldn't have hawked their totally original cartridge dunotsteal + new guns to retarded government stooges.
>>64365866Underwood 115gr .40 - 1400 fpsUnderwood 115gr 9mm +P+ - 1300 fps
>>64363904>10mm shorthard pass
>>64365914t. carries at 380
>>64365921>t.roastie who can't handle 10mm
>>64365922Fucking newfags I can't even
>>64365929>OMG BECKY HE CALLED ME OUT THESE NEWFAGS OMLhi stacy, post tits or gtfo
>>64365939I carry a USPc in 40 you dummy.What do you carry? I'm guessing not a 10
>>64365954no you dont
>>64365954I carry a Glock 20 Stacy, kys>>64365961Kys frognigger
Fuck .40, it's only used by retards now. Although I'll say it's a great way to train for shooting better rounds, like Piccolo wearing weighted clothing. .40 is excessively snappy for no benefit.>want terminal performance?.45acp which shoots softer meaning faster/better follow up.>want ease of use/capacity9mm.40 was designed as a bullshit compromise when agencies wanted magnum performance but their shooters could not handle the round. .40sw is autoloader .38spl and it's a bad choice for individual shooters and agencies en masse. .40 is shit, there's a reason it's being left behind and .45 acp is still getting new production guns. Even if a manufacturer wants to make a .40 gun they'd rather make a 10mm for the retards who can't stop asking for it. If you carry a .40 I think you're stupid.If you carry a 9mm I think you value ease of use, split times, and cheap ammo for training.If you carry a .45acp I think you value terminal performance above all.
>>6436597240 has more capacity than 9mm, more power than 10mm, and isn't a fat retard boomer round like 45, cope retard
>>64365981Ok well .45acp takes the soul straight to hell! It was actually designed to cause those fatally shot to be gay in their lsst moments. As they lay bleeding and their soul departs the flesh their last thoughts focus on man ass and sucking dick. When they reach the sfterlife the fresh thoughts of homosexuality ensure they are sent straight to hell.Can your .40 do that?
something is strange about this girl, either she's being pimped out to make gun content or just super awkwardshe is tiny and looks like a child with tattoos. borderline little person/midget sized
>>64366040First time seeing a woman that isn't obese?
>>64365822Vastly exaggerated. You can run 200gr, 1200fps loads in even a Colt Delta Elite and it's basically fine.
I like .40. What's not to like?
>>64366040Small and slender ladies are a thing. Pic related is "Eveestarr18," who's like 19 or 20 in this pic, you can find videos of her being plowed if you wanted to, and I've known of a number of other tiny and flat women (as in personally).
>>64366185>septum piercingdiscarded. probably has tattoos, too. we lost a good one, bros
>>64365790L-lewwwwwd!
>>64365991>Can your .40 do that?Actually....
>>64366178Well you do have the best gun in said caliber
>>64365866The centimeter IS the 40 s&w retard. Leddit doesn't even know their basic history.>>64363904The biggest problem is people, to this day, consider it as an in between step from 9mm to 45 when in reality it shots on 45 and almost has the capacity of 9.It's a good round.It's funny that people criticize the round for being too snappy when it was literally designed so women and dei hires could shoot it.None of y'all are even gun enthusiasts you just sperg about the current thing as evidenced by this thread lacking ANY critical thought.
>>64366210Yep. It was literally designed for .40.
>>64363913Glock and their shitty guns basically killed 40. The idea behind 40 was a solid one (near 9mm capacity and velocity with near 45 ACP projectile weight and diameter), but Glock screwed the pooch. The main reason the FBI wanted to drop 40 aside from the cost of 9mm ammo being lower is because 40 is a high-pressure cartridge that wore out their Glocks quickly, whereas any gun chambered in 9mm will basically last forever. There was also a recurring problem where some factory new Glocks chambered in 40 wouldn't work with WML most likely due to tolerance stacking issues. They would buy big batches of Glocks, and find that a huge chunk of them would become jamomatics with their duty flashlights attached. Then of course there's the unofficial politically incorrect reason that female agents tend to be "recoil sensitive." There's nothing wrong with 40 itself, but once the FBI abandoned it, most law enforcement agencies followed the monkey see, monkey do principle and began retiring it as well. This gave the gun industry the green light to take an axe to a ton of their existing SKUs so they can try to force "modern" plastic microcompact 9mm strikerslop onto everyone (flimsy inferior higher profit margin products being sold as an "upgrade"). I'm not even going to get into the whole discussion about how 9mm being a smaller bullet is considered more politically correct for law enforcement use (watch almost any OIS bodycam video and you'll see the reality of how "modern duty-grade" 9mm performs).>>64365629As much as I love shitting on women, this is not exactly what happened. The original 10mm Norma load was a 200gr projectile at 1260 fps, and the FBI tended to shoot thousands of rounds over their training sessions. The revised "10mm Lite" FBI load was a 180gr projectile handloaded to 950 fps to mimic 45 ACP. The FBI had wanted to adopt 45 ACP after Miami-Dade, but it was not considered politically correct to do so after the Army had adopted the 9mm Beretta M9.
>>64366187Yeah, she would be way cuter without.
>>64365747>Not significantly so in the modern era, but the difference was more pronounced when first introducedI've always found that thought to be really dumb the more I think about it. Somehow 9mm has these magical bullets that close the gap between all larger caliber projectiles to such a degree as ro render them obsolete. Also somehow no R&D was done with any other handgun round, as if all bullet development froze in the 80s except for 9mm. I'd argue, if anything, the gap has widened between 9 and 40 in terms of how big they can expand and how deep they can penetrate
>>643662989mm is the XM7 of pistol rounds.>don't think about it, just use it
>>64366298It's just 9fags misrepresenting the FBI study. What actually happened is that the newer 9mm duty loads meant for 4" barrels like Speer Gold Dot G2, Hornady Critical Duty, Winchester Ranger Bonded, and Federal HST were finally able to pass the FBI's minimum standard of penetration through various barriers such as thick clothing, sheet metal, automobile windshield glass, etc. into organic ballistics gel. Since these particular 9mm loads were able to meet the minimum requirement from their duty-sized guns, the FBI retired 40 S&W primarily as a way to save money. The FBI in no way claimed that 9mm is now "equal" in performance to 40 S&W and 45 ACP, just that it now finally consistently meets the minimum testing requirements in those particular factory loads. The FBI now considers 40 and 45 to be overkill for law enforcement use. Keep in mind that the goal of law enforcement is to apprehend suspects using the bare minimum of force.
>>64366289wtf why can't women just be cute and not ruin themselves
>>64366369>Keep in mind that the goal of law enforcement is to apprehend suspects using the bare minimum of force.This is good to keep in mind even if you don't have to. Minimally wounding someone vs. blowing half their torso off when you didn't necessarily need to looks a lot different to the responding officers. Not that .40 S&W does that, but obliterating someone vs. giving them an ouchie can easily legally complicate your life for years.
>>64366373It's our culture encouraging the escalation of things in order to get more attention.That and simp culture gassing women up so much that they dont see the need to do better.God I wish I could find a girl like >>64366289, even though she's usuay not the type I typically like, I still think they're cute as hell
>>64366369>The FBI in no way claimed that 9mm is now "equal" in performance to 40 S&W and 45 ACP, just that it now finally consistently meets the minimum testing requirements in those particular factory loads.The cheapest way to meet the standard, sure. Also, lower recoil of 9mm makes it easier for some to qualify with..40 has a marginally larger wound track, but is it really enough difference to make a difference?
