>muh super durable flying tank>dies to manpads (1.1kg warhead)
>>64364296>Was made in 1977>Still makes thirdies seethe
>>64364328Only the USAF seethes about the A10
Bong energy.
So, is there going to be any serious attempt at making an A-10 replacement that does the same job it does, but better? F-35 was close but has too small a brrrt and drones are making gunning relevant again.
>>64364471How big of a gun do you need for drones?
>>6436447125mm is plenty for drones and APKWS is really the better tool for the job.
>>64364471>F-35 was close but has too small a brrrt and drones are making gunning relevant againYou don't need a big brrt for drones though
>>64364471You know its the truth
>>64364471>brrrrt >in the manpad era
>>64364471The A-10 was the unwanted stepchild foisted onto the USAF from the Army after the US government banned the Army from operating fixed wing fighters. The USAF doesn't want it and will never replace it once it is deprecated.
>>64364544>both the A-10 and OA-1K don't have ejection seatsSpiritual successor of the thundershit.
>>64364504.303 is plenty for drones
>>64364471>So, is there going to be any serious attempt at making an A-10 replacementNo, it's easier to have precision bombing from an F-35>>64364575>OA-1KWon the participation award due to republicans stonewalling acquisition of the A-29
>>64364471High altitude loitering drones is the fucking future I hope Lockheed sees my post.
>>64364471Doubt it. Getting close enough for a gun kill is too much of a risk compared to squeezing off a missile for beyond visual range. Plus, missiles have become more reliable, and they're probably cheaper all things considered.
>>64364544Where Super Taco??????????
>>64364471>>64364669What about having dedicated gun-drones in orbit of an F-35, like the Loyal Wingman project?
>>64364811It won every competition only to never get selected
>>64364296I got to meet Shanghai, he got a gun kiII in the A-10A of a Mi-8 in the Gulf War
>>64364296Would it have turned out differently?
>>64364544Based
>>64364377Muslims seethes about the A-10 every day.
>>64364927>>64364328It makes anyone who has even the most primitive understanding of where CAS is in 2025 seethe. Alas, your understanding is less than primitive.
>>64364933Says the retard crying in the mongolian basket weaving forum.
I have a plan to keep the A-10 flying and have been repeating it for years. >Remove the gun, replace it with an Air to Ground Radar.>Add an additional fuel tank where the gun's ammo was and armor it. >Reinforce the wings (again) and wire more pylons to be capable of firing Mavericks and AGM-179s >All Glass cockpit>Update the TF34s to CF-34-8Cs. Same diameter, slightly longer, more thrust. >Add a laser detection system>Bring back the 20mm gun pods for the autistic need to put a lot of dakka on the ground.
>>64364981why would you do all of that just to have an inferior F35?
>>64364296The Warthog is indeed dated, but a weapon having a counter doesn't inherently mean that it's a weapon without use.You can also shoot down helicopters and Spookies with MANPADS, and you can defeat APCs and IFVs with basic rocket launchers.
>>64365011What you say is true, but the F-16 is still in production and was what the F-35 was meant to replace directly.
the hate and urgent need to remove the A=10 comes from there are no profits to be made and no bribes to be received anymore so the replacement shilling has been 24/7 for the last 10 years and the MIC simps follow along blindly
>>64364544>A-1 is faster, carries more, has guns, retractable gear, and isn't a cropdusterWe are declining
>>64364981>doesn't fix the airframes having six million hours problemuseless
>>64364471armed variant of the T-7
>>64364471Of course not, all the MIC shills and faggots want to have another super-turbo-stealth-loyal-wingman-loitering-drone-munition development along with all the money that entails. Not something which can fly low and fast while spewing hate in the CAS role.Also with the advent of drone-munitions finally being adopted by most serious militaries they might opt out of this type of CAS completely and just hit enemy armor with top attacks.
>>64364479For light drones, I'd go for megaton range.
>>64364981Just send an Apache at that point, desu
>>64364479I don't know, how many darts can you fit into an 18inch shell?
>>64364471>If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses -t. allegedly Henry FordA10s and battleships are boomerslop.
>>64365022Honest question, when was the last time the US purchased F-16s for themselves? As far as I’m aware, all the recent purchases are foreign buys for countries that can’t/don’t want the F-25.
>>64367196>F-25What do you know about the F-25 project?
>>64367210I could tell you, but then I’d have to kill myself.
>>64367215Dang it. I am guessing it is one better than the F-24, but 10 worse than the F-35.
>>643671962005
>>64364471any situation you can safely use an A-10 in you could safely use an AC-130 or an AH-64 with better accuracy. that being said, both are still incredibly vulnerable on the modern battlefield. we're more likely to get drone attack heli's as a replacement, slimming and armoring the profile to only mount a cannon and hellfires. something powerful enough to completely win a firefight for the troops who it supports, but disposable enough to be used aggressively.
I think you underestimate what over 2 pounds of explosives can do to something
>>64364635>all the click-bangs and duds from ancient mk.VII ammunition How about 7.62 like someone who isn't trying to be a military gun hipster
>>64364811>>64364857Super Tucono is my favorite military plane, that sucks
>>64365038Bingo, correct answer.
>>64365038>No profits to be made on the huge maintenance requirements Retard
>>64366710>>If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses -t. allegedly Henry FordUnironically believe that would have been better in the long run. I fantasize about trading my car for a horse frequently
>>64364882Neat frogfoot.
>>64367398Hogfoot.
>>64367402>HogfootThat was my nickname in kindergarten, because my hog was a foot long.They used to say to me "Gee, Jimmy, why does your mom let you have such a long hog?".Many such cases.
>>64367409t.
>Cas gets in the line of fireWho would have thought
>>64364544Yeah bring back Skyraiders
>>64365011I'm assuming it'll have a lower operational cost? Then again, maybe not. In any case, operational cost is not something the USAF often takes too seriously into their calculations. For thirdies though? I'm sure quite a few countries would be interested in a super warthog for cartel hunting.
>>64367196They haven't since block 52 so you're correct.
>>64364328Projecting jeet
>>64366710Trvke
>>64364575The A10 has an ejection seat.
Yes, the A10 was obsolete even when it was brand new. But it is great for dunking on people who's best AA is a DsHK on a Toyota.
>>64364328And the bongs over the friendly fire incidents
>>64364981That is not what makes it bad for modern doctrine anon.It's survivability against modern jets and modern SAMs is what makes it potentially bad today.I say potentially because we've all seen at this point that a fucking Cessna cannot be stopped by the S-400 ""tRiUmF"" the puccians wanked themselves raw about for a decade.In a real world scenario it should be comfortably dropping bombs on heads from a distance big enough to negate any MANPADS. Over where the infantry and tanks fight while at the same time freeing up high speed resources to handle the jets and SAMS on the forward edge.But you know everyone in these discussions always focuses on either wanking the gun or hating the thing for what was always a backup capability.
>>64364544We could just make an updated Skyraider. Instead we chose the crop duster. Imagine a mostly composite fuselage Skyraider with a modern engine and avionics.
>>64364882It's an American Frogfoot. The lack of the GAU-8 cult would probably make people use and think about it more rationally.
>>64371491>The lack of the GAU-8 cultit was designed around the gun too, anon>A single 30 mm rotary cannon was to be fitted in the belly of the aircraft, with the gun barrels extending under the nose. As the gun was mounted on the aircraft's centerline, the undercarriage nosewheel was offset one foot (0.30 m) to the left. As the GAU-8 Avenger cannon was not ready, both YA-9 prototypes (and the two YA-10s) were fitted with the smaller 20 mm M61 Vulcan instead.
>>64372048I stand corrected. I think the GAU-8 in an airborne role is something of a mistake.
>>64364471If they need to lob shells at people then they'll most likely bolt a recoilless autocannon onto a medium sized drone. The systems already exist so it's just a matter of putting them together.
>>64364471Purpose building fighter jets to fight drones is a braindead idea.
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