New month's challengeJack O lantern, draw the best jack o lantern on a B8, minimum 7 yards. Basically how many shots can you go without having a flier, be artistic.Post "hg-qual-10-25" with the imageLast Month's challenge, prizes are being sent out. Late applicants for collage acceptedPrintable target: https://files.catbox.moe/5ctlkk.jpgCourse of Fire: https://files.catbox.moe/u06i4z.jpgpost in the thread, attach this month's archive code "hg-qual-9-25" to help the collage maker find entriesGuide: https://files.catbox.moe/9g5sv2.pdfPastebin: https://pastebin.com/gs6mLNikPrevious:>>64364819
After thinking it over, what's the easiest way for you to identify that someone is a casual shooter?For me, the immediate signs someone hasn't progressed beyond a basic level are:>Still doesn't own a shot timer>Doesn't carry >Doesn't AIWB if they do carry>Is not involved in some form of competitive shooting at least once a month>Still has not caught up to using a red dot for carry, duty, OR competition
>wounded by "future brain surgeon">nuetralised perp with return fireDoes your pistol practice include single-handed drills, /hg/?
>>64377457There’s downsides of AIWB and tactically 3/4 o clock in the best as you can angle your body away from the attacker as you draw
>>64377475>There’s downsides of AIWB All concealed carry has downsides, AIWB just has the least drawbacks overall.>and tactically 3/4 o clock in the best"Tactically" it is not, and it has been shown time and time again in open mat sessions at MMA gyms that you can defend a gun better from your front than you can your back or side.Hip or behind carry without a retention holster is just begging to get pressed up against a counter or wall by some nog before they rob you and shoot you with your own gun in a gas station parking lot.
>>64377460why is the cop acting like all retarded? it look more like he was part of an other gang than being member of a police force>hold gun sideway>just casualy walk toward suspect>put his gun on chest and grab his arm like nothing wrong about it>just throw him on the ground and point his gun at him like if it's a ISIS execution videodude was new on the job or what ?
Just took Modern Samurai this week. Would recommend/10
What did you learn that wasn’t in the videos?
>>64377533I love his wave grip, what else did you learn?>>64377490For my individual body shape and the cloths I wear daily I found AIWB didn't work as well as 4oclock strong side for draws, and was definitely less comfy when I drive. Everyones different though.
>>64376608>>64376585Holy fuck even shoot straight is cheaper than your ranges.
>>64377571The wave grip was my biggest takeaway. The talk about gross sight picture helped me recontextualize the way I shoot around the 3 yard line. I like that he can demonstrate what he talks about with a shot timer on demand and that he gives an explanation for everything that he says. I took a Carry Trainer class earlier this year and have to say that I’d definitely recommend Modern Samurai over it any day. I think the next step for me is starting USPSA.
>>64377520Must've seen Training Day and thought it was an example to follow
>>64377520>dude was new on the job or what ?You vastly overrate police training.
>>64377438Can someone give me an Amazon link for those targets I fucking hate searching shit on Amazon so much
>>64377718https://a.co/d/3vJld73Pack of 100 for 20 dollars, good for a lot of different shooting
>>64377457I was with you until meme dot
>>64377457>I do not own a shot timer>I do carry>I do carry AIWB>I do not do any comp shooting>I do use a red dotI guess I'm a casual
>>64377457>9mm Glock shooter calling other people basiclol ok buddy
>>64377734Enjoy performing worse I guess.
What red dot do you guys recommend for L frame MOS Glocks?
>>64377571>For my individual body shape and the cloths I wear dailybased on the clothes you wear and the gun you carry (almost certainly a revolver or an old metal-framed gun) you carry for feels over reals.
>>64378013Holosun and Triji should be the default choices. Vortex possibly, and maybe wait another year and see if Aimpoint finally figures out pistol dots.
>>64377457Red dot is the only one for me, red dot deniers are like flat earthers but not in the good way
>>64378013type 2 rmr always gud. if you really care about enclosed optics get the holosun EPS
Is the P2000 a good choice for a duty pistol?I’m a da/sa guy as well as a small guy.Seems like it’s the only da/sa on the market that’s legitimately very close to Glock 19 sized even if it does give up 2 rounds.Don’t ask me about my job.
>>64378040PX4 compact, better trigger, worse texture but you can just put grip tape on it
>>64377734>meme dotIt's not a big deal. As a casual you're not really interested in performance, just blasting old appliances and paper plates at the range for fun anyways, so carry on.
>>64378013509t
>>64378040if its a duty gun why go for a compact?
>>64377995Maybe at 20y plus. Go on YouTube and watch any sub-GM level shooter shoot from a holster with a dot. It takes a noticeable fraction of a second longer to get aligned before the first shot than it should. You can pretend this isn’t true for the majority of those with dots on their pistols but you know it is. That’s the most important factor but there’s also>brightness is never good for both lowlight and bright conditions unless you manually adjust it>adds size and weight>cost>can be obstructed >batteries can fail
>>64378057Why is the shooter aligning anything? The point of a red dot is target focus, with irons you *should* focus on the irons and need sight alignment while the red dot you can practice total target focus. Mechanically I can draw and shoot just as fast with irons or a dot, since I’m just pulling the trigger as soon as the gun is pointed at the target, but with a dot it’s easier to be accurate and get A hits, sometimes I’m able to shoot the actual A itself.
>>64378051If it’s 9mm then it’s not like it matters that much. Every full-size 9mm handgun I own feels overly large for what it shoots.
>>64378057its more intuitive to line up the sights but one thing you aren't considering is that you can 'line up the sights' improperly, they are also MUCH more annoying to zero or even impossible if they're fixed sights.you don't get false-positives with dots, you either see the dot or you dont.
>>64378040>Is the P2000 a good choice for a duty pistol?I woudn't trust anything less than pic related for a duty pistol, and honestly even staccato is entry level for something that your life may depend on, but at least you know it has an established standard.You're paying out of your own pocket, so why cheap out like a dept. on a budget mass equipping a bunch of officers they don't care about with the same discount bulk buy garbage that gets churned out by glock, hk, sig, beretta, SW, walther, etc.?It's the equivalent of carryng a gunto sword.
Glock or xd?
>>64378079choosing a pistol with a 12rd magazine as a duty gun is not logical. if you want a p2k for feels and understand the downsides then whatever
>>64378082just because its a duty pistol doesn't mean hes a cop. he might just be armed security at a kroger, i dont think hes making enough money to warrant buying a 3000 dollar pistol.
>>64378033>>64378038>>64378049Does anyone make a red dot for MOS that doesn't need plates?
>>64378057>Go on YouTube and watch any sub-GM level shooter shoot from a holster with a dot. It takes a noticeable fraction of a second longer to get aligned before the first shot than it should.Painfully wrong.Go to any match and you will see the posted times in carry optics beating open, production, and single stack.This has been evident for years now, which is why nobody except boomers and contrarians still actually nay says dots. It's just plain faster (and more accurate) in every single way.
>>64378098Holosun has two
>>64378098>Does anyone make a red dot for MOS that doesn't need plates?Holosun SCS MOS, and that's it. I have one on my g19. I don't hate it, but I don't love it either. I kind of wish I'd gone non-MOS, and just milled the slide for an RMR.
>>64378088The new XD mod 3 is very cheap and feature rich Why not RXM instead of Glock?
>>64378057This is the dumbest post I've read on /k/ all week. Shut the absolute FUCK up, retard.
Anons my G19 Gen2 arrived today. Aside from a few small marks the gun is in amazing shape. Looking forward to shooting it.
>>64378111Any reason why you don't like it? I've never used a red dot on a pistol before and my only experience is a cheapo one I have on my AR from halosun that works great for what it is
>>64378129>Any reason why you don't like it?Pretty small window, and the autobrightness is annoying. I can't use the max bright option, because it causes so much halation that I can't even see the target beyond it.
>>64378038
>>64378143So what do you recommend that uses a plate?
>>64378146>greendead in the streets
>>64377729Thx brah
I'm once again posting that Locked and Loaded has the EPS FN 509C tactical plate for $15 cheaper than anywhere else for the anon that bought the FN based on my reccomendation and got bummed out the plate cost so much. Idk how often he frequents here so I'll keep posting it now and again until he replies
>>64378152>So what do you recommend that uses a plate?I guess it depends on what you're gonna use it for. I have shot a lot of rounds with a buddy's Holosun 507comp, and that is pretty nice, but if this is going to be your concealed carry, you might find it to be too large. For something smaller, I like the Trijicon RMR, which is why I mentioned wishing I had gotten a regular slide, and milled for that. Downside to the RMR is that you have to take the optic off of the gun to change the battery, which is absolutely fucking ridiculous, but it's got a nice sized window with an overall small-ish profile.
>>64378164no no no never buy CHPWS plates
>>64377624lol yeah indoor ranges are a racket for anyone that doesn't shoot enough to justify an annual membership
SPB
>>64378082>i wouldnt trust any proven gun used by multiple law enforcement agencies or adopted widespread by modern militaries. Instead take this 3000 dollar AARP talking piece
>>64378170Its for a Glock 40 which is huge, I carry it in a universal drop leg holster when im out in the woods. So i'm thinking i'd want it bigger
>>64378013How much you trying to spend>>64378164>buying a C&H plate
>>64378224I dunno, as much as I need to for a quality product.
>>64378207Gotcha. Definitely check out a 507comp then. They outclass the previous big window option king (Trijicon SRO) by a mile. I hear that Vortex currently has a big window option that people really like in the Defender-XL, but I have never seen one in person. Probably worth a gander if a shop near you has one on hand.
Glock 30 Gen 5 sneed it or keep it?
>>64378200>i wouldn't trust a gun from manufacturers that won all of their contracts because they were the lowest bidderYes, that is correct.Enjoy your "good enough" pistol.
>>64378231'Good' is relative here due to memefags and generally similar return rates across all major brands. You could get a Sig Romeo RS for $200 with a lifetime warranty or you could get an RMR for $450 with a 3 year warranty or you could get a chinese optic for $250 with a warranty between the twoWhat do you want the optic for? What are your preferences in an optic? What mount pattern?
>>64378261This is my first pistol red dot. Just looking to try it out I guess. So I guess something cheaper now that im thinking about it. I may hate red dot shooting, i'm not sure yet. It's my carry handgun when i'm in the woods.
you're all lying when you say "I hope I never have to use it"
>>64378181>>64378224What's wrong with em? Never used one before.
>>64378339Low quality, bad QC, aluminum, lots of nightmare stories
>>64378192
>>64377995I get outshot by a boomer with an iron-sighted Taurus 1911 pretty regularly so I dunno man.
>>64378333any gun enthusiast who says that is just failing to mask their bloodlust, especially people on /k/ who, like most 4chan users, experienced bullying as a kid and probably never got to fight back.
>>64378485dude no you don't. you dont even LOOK at other people's targets. you're just stanning zased "non-tryhard" old people because you hate modern shooting culture.
>>64378124I'm very jealous! I hope to find one just like it! Enjoy!
>>64378485what are you saying here, just because you're not proficient that that dots are useless? >WELL, I actually get out shot by some boomer with a brazilian 1911, that means that red dots are all memes
>>64378013I have a Delta point pro on my Glock 20. Fantastic eye relief.
>>64378485That’s because you suck at life and should never give your opinion when firearms are brought up.
>>64378541Is the battery life really only 150 hours on those?
>>64378272If you just want super cheap, get a gray market Swampfox Liberty on ebay for $60. Swampfox says they're fake but they look EXACTLY like real ones to me, down to the smallest detail. I think they just don't want to be on the hook for warranty service when their factory did an end run around their fixed pricing. If it breaks and you need warranty service, say you bought it used from a forum and never mention ebay, they may even warranty it>>64378339They don't seem to be very consistent dimensionally. I had to file mine to fit the optic
>>64377457t. casual I guess
I can barely hit anything with my Springfield 1911 and I refuse to admit it's me so I'm replacing the sights with adjustable ones to get rid of the moronic 6 o' clock holdI also think that only the front sight being tritium is lame.Furthermore I regret buying a fuddy five because it's expensive and I'm poor
>>64378504The last match I shot, this particular taurus 1911 flung its front sight off and I helped the guy look for it.I'm not saying red dots are useless, they are definitely better than irons, but I think I might be living proof at the moment that if you don't train you're going to suck no matter what gear you run.
>>64379206>get rid of the moronic 6 o' clock holdThat makes bull's eye shooting easier so I take it you already did the /hg/ qualifier? >only the front sight being tritium is lameHaven't you ever used a bead sight before? Unless your front tritium lamp is amber / orange, good luck finding a rear set that contrasts with green>regret buying a fuddy five because it's expensiveEvens out if you only shoot half as much and stop missing
>>64379754>Evens out if you only shoot half as much and stop missingcringe wannabe-boomer take
>>64379789lol if you thought shooting with a 1911 was hard wait until you try a poly striker
>>64377457>For me, the immediate signs someone hasn't progressed beyond a basic level are:>Interacting with firearms differently from the way I do in any regard
I want an AGL 45 long colt but it doesn't exist
I have a cheap GI 1911 and I can't decide between getting a nicer .45 1911 or a 9mm 2011 to accompany it.
>>64377457I can tell someone is a casual if they carry a glock, they're pure 100% normalfag goyboy slop
>>64377571>He doesn't AIWB a Roland specialDead in the streets
>>643805719mm 1911 or 2011, so you can afford to shoot it more or if your shoot it a lot your hands don’t get tired
>>64377457>some form of competitive shootingso if you take classes but aren't involved in competitions, you're a casual? you're saying that if you go to the range frequently but someone else who only shoots at competitions monthly, the competition shooter is not a casual but you are? there's no room for nuance with rage baiters.also I guess every elite shooter of the past decades are also casuals if they never decided to adopt a dot. wait for the beep when you're about to mugged retard
My last gun of my 7 gun frenzy has arrived at my FFL.All I need now is my M&P40 to come back from its spa trip
>>64377624Shoot Straight only works for me because it's super close to my house.
>>64377571I have an almost identical build to you. I carry cross draw on left. I just can't get strong side carry to work for me.
>>64377640>random guy with no hands
>>64380809>so if you take classes but aren't involved in competitions, you're a casual? 100%.You will learn more from competing (and losing) in a local match and then identifying your own failures and practicing for the next match.People who pay to take classes are pathetic sycophants snuggling up to some loser vetbro just so they can hear fabricated war stories and fellate one another over how "combat ready" they are.>you're saying that if you go to the range frequently but someone else who only shoots at competitions monthly, the competition shooter is not a casual but you are?Inane comparison, people who compete regularly are practicing significantly more than casuals like you, average round counts for people involved at a competitive level in USPSA, IPSC, IDPA, etc. is ~25,000rds. a year of just their primary handgun caliber minimum, most closer to 40 or more. >so I guess every elite shooter of the past decades are also casuals if they never decided to adopt a dot. All the elite shooters have already moved on to dots, you're just still behind the curve and don't know what an "elite shooter" is.>wait for the beep when you're about to mugged retardIronically, even the "instructors" you put on a pedestal are using shot timers.Enjoy your monthly 300rd. range trip (lol, lmao).
Florida Men rejoice, Publix wont be gay and it will allow Open Carryhttps://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/09/us/publix-stores-open-carry-florida.html
FUCKING CALL ME YOU BASTARDS, YOU CALLED ME EARLY YESTERDAYFUCKING FFLS MAN
>>64381044>identifying your own failureshow are you going to identify your own failures if you cant even see them?
>>64381044Ben Stoeger qualified GM the first match he went to, Alexander the Great won his first battle at 16, many of the founding fathers were 18-22. Give up. It’s already over.
>>64381193By identifying them.
>>64381348>Ben Stoeger qualified GM the first match he went tothats not how qualification works
How do you learn how to do course shooting like IDPA or USPSA? Do you just sign up for matches and eat shit until you're good?
>>64381403>Do you just sign up for matches and eat shit until you're good?pretty much. being a good shot is maybe 30% of USPSA, the rest of it is being able to remember where all the targets are and how you're supposed to shoot them.
>>64381403There is books and various videos on the skills you need to learn and how and what to do. Half of USPSA is their stupid safety rules
>>64381411>stupid safety rulesits a sport where you are trusting other people to fire quickly while running, no shit there are lots of safety rules.
CZ P-01 or a CZ P-09 C Nocturne for a DA/SA CCW? I'm leaning to the P-09 since it comes with a factory optic cut.
>>64381403I just showed up to my local match and copied the GM guy’s stage plans. When I have to shoot before him in the order, I ask him how he’d shoot it and he’ll tell me.You can just do stuff.
>>64381505wots it do that a p365 or glog doesn't?
>>64381560Not be striker and be DA/SA
>>64377460Yeah because I carry when I walk my dog. Can't just let go of the leash the little bastard will get in the way
>>64381596oh whoops i typed in p-10
>>64381560I'm white.
One of my recently milled 19's (Battlewerks). Simple and a great shooter
>>64381758Oops. Here's pic
>>64381761Echelon is my favorite notaglock
>>64381758>>64381761NiceI love my 19 the way she is, don't want to slice her up for a red dot, I may consider a optic slide soon or just get an M9A4I also have a OR VP9 but I just dont want to ruin the look
>>64381768That's why you should have multiples of your carry/defense guns. I left my OD frying pan 19 alone. My gen 5 is getting milled for a RMR HD.
>>64381774My RMR HD host. Going to Battlewerx soon.
>lateral move into the private sector >disgusting pay increase >want to celebrate Its either a really nice CCW or PR. I feel like the drop testing has pretty much ruled out Staccato's. Any ideas for a bespoke treat for a good boy? Right now I daily a cajuned CZ 75 D.
>>64381786Muzzle down drop safety is irrelevant and the new staccato HD is drop safe and takes Glock mags
My friend wants an M1911, but he is tiny and frail, like 5'6" and sometimes walks with a cane, and he wants to have this potentially be a carry weapon. I am a revolverfag and honestly don't know a lot about 1911's, but I know there are 9mm options with a really slim profile now. He has also talked about a .22 for an EDC weapon but I talked him out of that. Can anyone recommend a solid 9mm 1911? I have been looking at the Tisas, Girsan, and Kimber options, but I can't say I have ever bought anything from any of them.
>>64381786>I feel like the drop testing has pretty much ruled out Staccato'sOnly retards drop their guns to begin with, drop safeties are just as much a forced gun grabber cope as gun locks, loaded chamber indicators, and magazine safeties.>Any ideas for a bespoke treat for a good boy?Nighthawk TRS Commander
>>64381817I cannot say any of them will be solid unless it’s test fired. Tisas is a good bet out of the 3, Kimber has an atrocious reputation but it seems to be improving itself. 9mm 1911s are the same frame as .45 ACP ones, only the “.380 1911s” are actually different. The .380 Browning 1911 I think is alright, I have never heard any warnings against it
>>64381824Nighthawk BDS9 with its silver DLC finish is cooler.I was just reading on the 1911 forum that semi custom/production 1911 makers are in trouble since all the older 1911 guys dying off or selling off their collections means you can score high end 1911s for decent discounts, barely used.
>>64381764My HCP Comp that replaced my (((X Macro)))
>>64381505Have you looked at the PCR? I've had one for about 8 months and did a training course with it, I fucking love this thing. Compared to the P-01 you lose the light rail and get a loaded chamber indicator.
>>64381817Your friend sounds like a fucking retard trying to compensate for his physicality with a gun that is objectively a risk for him to carry or use, instead of something better suited to him.
>>64381817just let him get what he wants. friends always buy guns for very feels reasons and trying to talk them out of it rarely works.
>>64381817>5’6”>tiny and frailkek nice subtle bait. But seriously let your friend buy what he wants. There’s nothing wrong with a 5” 1911 in 45 as a carry gun provided you get one with good fitment that’s reliable. People need to stop pretending like regular old 230gr 45 hardball is outrageously difficult to shoot from a full-size steel pistol. The 1911 is a relatively safe gun to carry as well. The thumb and grip safeties give novice gun owners a peace of mind.
I just like it.
>>64381831Thanks for the advice, I am trying to learn about this from a few different places but it's a lot of unfamiliar manufacturers and an unfamiliar gun. I know it will sound goofy as fuck coming from someone that prefers revolvers, but I have always considered 1911's to be a fudd boomer gun that didn't appeal to me. >>64382235Nah I think he is just really fresh to handguns, and is a fair bit younger than me, was the girlfriend's neighbor but he's an awesome mechanic so we got to know him when he offered to work on our cars. He's got a couple .22 rifles he grew up with, but now that he's getting out of college he wants to CC, I wanna steer him in the right direction, and I think having some options will help. >>64382282I think most people's first gun is feels based, and in this case I think it's the 1911 aesthetic moreso than caliber or make, so I wanna dial that part in to make it an easier consideration. Primarily I actually plan to recommend he go for a newer J frame for simplicity/reliability sake and not having to rack a slide if he is really leaning on a cane or something, or a pocket .380, will probably take him to a range where he can rent a couple of these to test. >>64382283Not bait I promise! I just think he might struggle to hide a full size double stack 1911, I am less worried about recoil or whatever, and only moderately concerned about the effort of racking a slide.
We've gotten to the point where semi autos are unironically more reliable than revolvers since no company in 2025 can somehow consistently put out revolvers riddled with QC issues.
>>64382390*not
>>64382360As a newguns I made the mistake of trying to cover all my needs and wants with my first pistol, and it ended up being unideal for all roles. I think it's better to split your needs into at least two guns which are more specialized. Maybe your friend would be happy with a lil covered-hammer revolver for carry and 1911 in .45 for home / range?
>>64378709I'm not sure. It's shake-awake and I change out the battery once a year on my birthday and it's still crisp when I do. I carry it whenever I'm innawoods so it gets jostled around pretty consistently without any issues.
>>64382404Totally agree, and funny enough in the time since I first posted about this, he told me that a buddy of his is trying to sell an almost brand new, decently tricked out, S&W victory for three fifty, and it even has a threaded barrel so I could let him borrow my can. I told him to go ahead and grab it to use at the range so he can practice draw, sighting a target, squeezing the trigger instead of pulling, breathing - all the basic nuts and bolts. The cheap ammo and low recoil will let him put in a lot more practice than if he does start off with something like one of those j frame bodyguards, and the amount of money he saves on ammo will just pay for the second gun.
>friend wanted a 1911>took him out shooting, let him shoot my Nighthawks, Wilson Combats, and tuned up Colt >hoping to offload one of them to him >he really likes the Nighthawk 2011 >let him shoot my LTT PX4 compact >he now wants a LTT PX4 Compact and is optioning one out with all the upgrades
Primary Arms HTX 1 early adopters are finally shipping, I regret not getting one
Do they still make holsters for this guy?
>>64382482Of course, at least simply rugged and concealment express have it in their gun list, but even for other holster maker, once they have the prop, they can make more holsters for it, what kind of holster do you want?
>>64382390Wild west has fallen
Is the HK45/HK45C typically made in USA? I know there's some made in Germany but is it like... half of them? Or more like a small run before discontinuation and now like a collector's kind of thing. Not worried about quality, just rollmark fag shit.
Rolling police trade in gacha again, wisconsin transfers are dropping glock 23 for $300
>>64383100I had some bad luck with my trade in M&P 2.0>back sights were sliding off>frame felt soft>gun had some significant holster wear (to be expected)>sights were completely faded>it has a magazine safety and will probably have the "tool" needed to lower the sear>magazine release was on the left>had to spend $150 for the only sights the LGS had for the gun>is currently at or will be at a gunsmith, dunno when I'll get it back but I am expecting at least $200 because he's fixing the sights, cleaning the gun, and moving the release button back.All that shit for a $230 gun, meanwhile my Hue APX was practically brand new and cost just a little more.
>>64383166that sounds like a fuck up on your end since s&w has a transferable warranty and would have refurbished the sights for free
>>64383003From what I understand the 45C is just assembled in the US from components shipped from Germany.
>>64383199That kind of makes sense too, actually. This one has proof markings on the slide and frame, and I always thought that was a German manufacturing thing and not USA. This is the first HK I've found not made in Germany, I know they have facilities here but I just assumed they were making VP9s and other shit.
>>64383189Fair but at least the gun should hopefully have some solid upgrades that'll give it some new life.
>>64383209So I may not be 100% accurate here but this is how it was explained to me. Any 45c with factory tritium sights was assembled here from parts shipped from Germany. The barrels of these guns will not have serials that match the slide/frame since they're just assembled with whatever barrel gets grabbed out of the pile. I have been told that the frames of these guns are made in the US, and that they're made in Germany. I have no idea which is true.
>>64383241> The barrels of these guns will not have serials that match the slide/frameHmmm, very interdasting. The other is marked with a matching serial which doesn’t shock me. Kind of like re-engraving when you Form 1 an SBR or something. This is actually not the explanation I was expecting but cool nonetheless. Thanks for the knowledge anon
>>64383277meant to say>the other SIDEof the barrel has a matching serial. But yeah my USP and P2000's just have one serial across the slide/frame/barrel like normal
I had to run to my HKs to make sure the serial numbers matchedyou fuckers scared me
>Welcome to the Jungle>it gets worse here everyday
>>64383365>it gets worse here everydayThat’s life
>>64383423I just wanted to quote the song while posting my jungle themed holster, it's really nice with that cloth added to it
>>64377457>Still doesn't own a shot timerAgreed, with a caveat: FUCK these things costing $150 to start out, let alone be 2-3x that for a "good" one.>inb4 poorfagNigger.>Doesn't carryAgreed. Not carrying is just retarded in this day and age.>Doesn't AIWB if they do carryAIWB is only marginally quicker than 3-o'-clock and doesn't do you a damn bit of good if you're sitting down at all.>Is not involved in some form of competitive shooting at least once a monthHalf these assholes in the stretchy sport shirts don't even carry, and if they do it's a dinky .25 or a .38 snubbie. They do what I do at the range, but WOW SPEED for the dubious clout of impressing other fatty boombatties at the match. I don't think I need to emulate that in order to defend myself. Pushing yourself with a timer (see above) and some half-size targets with a course of fire is just fine. It's what they do, anyway.>Still has not caught up to using a red dot for carry, duty, OR competitionI love the idea of micro red dots. I'd love it more if I could witness one that doesn't get beat to death after sub-5000 round counts, or normal everyday bump-around damage. Or one that I don't have to re-zero every time I change the battery. If you can swing it though, fuck it, send it. Counter: I'm way more likely to get use out of a pistol light than a pistol red dot. It's dark half the time. I've needed to pull my weapon twice, and only once did I have the light attached. It's a PITA, until the moment you need it-- then it's REAL nice to have on tap.
>>64377490Here's a hot idea: don't go near gas stations at night. And if you need to, don't fucking relax, dummy. And for fucksake, DO NOT HAVE YOUR GUN HAND OCCUPIED, AT NIGHT, IN THE GAS STATION WITH NEGROES.>bixnood behind you at the counter>ah damn, forgot [X]>put an item back or pick up an extra item>re-enter line>you are now behind themNot that hard, man. It's not like you're immune to a round of Knockout Game or a knife in the throat from behind just because you're appendix carrying.
>>64383277Y'know it had been so long since I had paid attention that I completely forgot that my 45C doesn't actually have any serial on the slide at all.
>>64377490This is why no matter what gun I carry I always have a j-frame in a pocket holster. If you're forced to interact with niggers you can have your hand already on it with it half drawn out of the pocket holster and they'll never know as long as you look casual.
>>64383465The J frame will never die, the eternal backup gun
>>64383468Despite it's drawbacks it really is the ideal pocket gun. I've tried a few other options over the years and it's the one I keep coming back to. I do kinda miss my ppk/s though.
>>64383471my J frame has been my loyal pocket gun for 5 years, but once the S&W Shield plus is ready, I'm going to retire the girl
>>64383476You'll be back
>>64383487Fug you're probably right, I think the IWB holster is a better fit for the Shield anyway but I am willing to try pocket carry
>>64383365hell yeah
I have a confession My shots still pull to the left no matter the gun. My friends all think I'm incredjble because of my accuracy but I cheat by always aiming slightly to the right of where I want my shots to go. I've dryfired regularly, I've taken classes and still my shots always go to the left.I'm at the point where I want to just sell everything except one gun and just keep it in my sock drawer.
>>64377457Kek at the faggot that thinks equipment makes man. The very best shooters in the world all say the same thing. Sights are irrelevant. How you carry is irrelevant. What you carry is irrelevant. Competition experience is irrelevant. Trigger manipulation is 90% of shooting. The ability to squeeze the trigger with minimal to no poa movement is everything. At pistol distance you can't miss your target if you have good trigger manipulation. Grip choice? Irrelevant Stance? Irrelevant. Sights? Irrelevant. You could have no sights, a single ball, iron. Makes zero fuck all difference. He who draws first is prince, he who draws first and has great trigger manipulation is king in the pistol world. Sorry I gave away the best kept secret in the pistol universe.
>>64383779>The ability to squeeze the trigger with minimal to no poa movement is everythingWait until you figure out what allows you to do that!
>>64384004>>what allows great trigger manipulation Dry firing. Then shooting without using the sights. Then adding in sight usage and distance after trigger manipulation is muscle memory. Literally none of the equipment or claims you made.
>>64384004You see faggot trigger manipulation issues stem from the human inability to multitask especially with new situations. So most shooters when new can dry fire until they have a smooth action with no poa shift. Then the addition of sight usage and the sound and recoil fuck that all up. However when you completely remove sight usage and just have the shooter point shoot at a target 3 yards away they easily overcome the trigger issue again. Now you have a shooter with good trigger manipulation built on muscle memory. You also have the skillset building of point shooting. To draw and fire a pistol out to the maximum self defense range of 10-12 yards point shooting is very reliable and fast. Its also been proven that at every skill level a point shooter is significantly faster to draw and fire than his aiming counterpart. Fact is all your claims of gear and sport is irrelevant. Being trained correctly and not consumer driven teachings is However key.
>>64384072The answer was a good grip. Nice try though.
>>64381761>the guy who said Glocks are shit and propped up his Arex for months now says Glocks are great shooterswhat a redemption arcbravo
>>64384115>>the answer is a good gripNo, the answer is to be able to manipulate the trigger without moving the firearm. Its no different for pistols to long range shooting. You do not correct trigger manipulation issues with grip. You band aid them and they will pop back up. You must eliminate the issue all together
Do you guys like 1911s yet or no
>>64381044>doesn't understand hypotheticalsconfirmed retardAlso if only spec ops were heckin competition shooters instead of going to sniper school, who needs to continually inprove under expert instruction when you have le targets you mindlessly shoot once a month
>>64384200With out a solid foundational grip you're always going to move the firearm in one direction or the other when the trigger breaks. It's one of the most important aspects of shooting a handgun.
>>64384259>>64384200>>64384115>>64384099>>64384072>>64384004>>64383779>watched a couple youtube videos explaining the importance of grip, trigger control, and dry firing>parrot that information on /k/ to pretend you're an authority>"take me srsly!1!! i know wut im talkin aboot!11!!!eleven!1">still wouldn't even place top 10 in a regional shoot in any eventl-m-a-o
>>64384301Yet you aren't going to post groups or times? Interesting
>>64384259>>With out a solid foundational grip you're always going to move the firearm in one direction or the other when the trigger breaksNegative. You can barely hold the pistol at all and have a great complete trigger manipulation. You can also strangle the pistol with both hands and have a great trigger manipulation. No movement of poa, no effect on impact at all in either case. Good trigger manipulation is independent of grip. Bad trigger manipulation is independent of grip. Grip is simply the band aid YOU have been led to believe is the solution to the problem. Someone who has good trigger manipulation can cycle from one handed to two, point shooting to aiming, revolver to Deagles with zero issues. Because trigger manipulation is an independent skillet that needs to be trained independent and first.
>>64384244I'm okay with them now, but I don't love them.
>>64382230You CCW that thing? Is it too chonky for comfort?
>>64384320And how does one train trigger manipulation
>>64384541Dry fire until one can do so without movement. Point shoot at target from a close distance. Do not look at the sights. Do not concern yourself with how accurate you are. Focusing only on trigger manipulation. >>see gotcha you have to have muh grip grip, muh gripsNo. You do not teach grip before trigger manipulation. Anyone can and will hold a pistol in a manner that will be good enough. Any fine tuning of grip comes later if and if grip presented a deficiency in use or function. The only thing that matters is a good trigger manipulation that does not move poa. As can be seen at the highest levels of shooting. Different grips. Different types of pistols and angles, many different disciplines. At the top one thing and one thing alone is unanimous. The absolute best have the best trigger manipulation.
>>64384567Thanks. I'm not the guy you're arguing with. I'm just not seeing any improvement and would try anything at this point
>>64384131I don't know what you're talking about. I don't own or particularly like the Arex. You're thinking of another anon.
>>64384577Im arguing with everyone.Clear the weapon and remove the magazine. Dry fire slowly. Learn where the trigger breaks. Every squeeze of the trigger focus on just being smooth. Look forward not at the gun. Do this a lot. Like you are a broken mentality I'll human. Once you feel comfortable go to the range. Set up a large target. The size of your upper body. Get about 3 big steps away. Point, don't aim at the target. Don't look at the sights. Look forward just like in dry fire and squeeze the same way. The only thing you care about is a smooth clean pull. Repeat. Don't adjust anything. Pay very little to no attention to the group you make. Bring the pistol up. Look at the center of the target, ignore the sights, fire Repeat. You WILL see your groups close up just point shooting as your manipulation improves. It takes time. Some people are anticipating recoil. Some the noise. Some are trying to fire when the sights are on target. Remove all that concern and get the trigger down.
>>64384244Love of 1911s waning, I’m becoming obsessed with 2011s now
>>64383495What kinda pants can fit a shield plus in the pocket?
>>64383724same here. i've tried a bunch of different things to change it but if i'm not in the x ring i'm pulling left and slightly down. I'm still in the 10 and 9 ring but I'm totally butt flustered. I recently took my 40 round CC test in commiefornia and got 35/40 in the red and 10 and the rest just outside that to the left. Get a gun with an optic on it, I recently did that for a glock and it was incredible to see that indeed everytime i press the trigger my hand slightly flexes and pushes the sight to the left. I've been trying to dry fire with it to mitigate it but my whole hand moves when I move my finger. frustrating but maybe with more practice it will improve.
>>64384131Glocks aren't as good as their price indicates and I wish their users would demand improvements or price drops instead of endlessly shilling for the product they all buy parts to improve. Also I love my Arex so much I bought two.You definitely just misattributed something a collection of anons have said to one single guy though.>>64383365Love the holster and frame anon, looks sick
>>64384922>Glocks aren't as good as their price indicatesthey're the same price as everyone else's flagship striker pistol.
>>64384945Doesnt change what he said.
>>64384306Your eternal refrain in these threads. Unfortunately, you've done what all attention desperate losers eventually do, and having run out of things to contribute of any value (early) you continued to speak, continued to seek validation, and tipped your hand to reveal that you are a brainlet dweeb. Lurk so much moar
>>64384760What do if you have a gun with a floating pin that can break from dry fire?
>>64385019snap caps, azoom makes one with a fake primer that is supported by a spring that is supposed to stop that
>>64385008So, no form of proof you're a skilled shooter? Disregarded.
Is there any um, new cool handguns?
Ow. May reattempt hg-qual-10-25 next week, but this might be the last weekend I get this month.
>>64385108That’s good I tried 10 yards today and threw 3 fliers and gave up
>>64385125You should see the backer target.
Finally got my new 686 today, the serial number starts with EDW so I decided to name it Edward.All I need now is my M&P40 to come back from rehab and I think I can say that I am pretty satisfied with my gun collection.I'll be back to buying guns next year>>64384817My nautica chinos can, but my new Levi jeans wont fit, bleh.Looks like if I'm wearing jeans, it's a IWB only gun.
>>64384974yeah it does. you just dont like what i said
>>64385159Haha time for another RMA! Will it be a crooked barrel, poor timing or some other issue who knows that's the fun part of buying a new shart & wesson!
>>64383166>this is the the price anon pays for buying a gun owned by a leftyDevils hands touched that gun anon, don't be surprised it's cursed.>>64384945That's the problem. They ship with very fragile plastic sights and shitty triggers but cost as much as everyone else. When 90% of your costumer base has to replace the stock parts, you're shipping shit parts and need to innovate and improve.>>64385090Im excited for the white label Steyr/Arex stuff, but I'm not sure when it will make it state side.
>>64385209If the demon looks like this I'm fine.>>64385183I think it'll be fine
>>64384945I can get a vp9 for 450?
>>64385209>fragile plastic sightsThey work just fine.
>>64385319Maggots
>>64385090There's this thing >>64363979And the Opos VenatorAnd I think the new lockless S&W Classics (36, 10, 19) are super cool
>>64385319what if you want a gun that doesn’t get a dead striker if you tap it, though?
>>64385319They're out of stock most places at the moment, I assume Trump's tarrifs are fucking everything up. But why get a vp9 when the echelon is available?
>>64385474What's the verdict on the Echelon?
>>64385486Fucking love it, the gas pedal, stipling, and incredibly short trigger reset makes it a phenomenally fast shooting gun. I shoot it faster with slow fire than I shoot my PDP rapid fire as fast as I can get sights back on target.Slow fire echelon middle, rapid fire echelon top left, and i believe rapid fire with PDP top right
>>64385474>But why get a vp9 when the echelon is available?HKs have aura.
>>64385514HKs do because dumbfucks over pay for legacy models. The VP9 is the cheap one built down to a price worse than a Glock in every way.
>>64385514only USPs have aura. all the other ones are ugly or boring.
>>64385514They also have maggots
Why are you niggers talking about red dot when green dot is superior?
>>64385564>pays more for a dot that is more likely to blend in with the background
>>64385574>wears a red shirt
>>64385564It isn't and you own neither so why are you even trying to have an opinion, let alone a shitty one?
It’s all about the blue dots
>Not shooting pink dotsYou need to have breast cancer awareness
>>64385611Based and october pilled
>>64385537>worse than a Glock in every wayI like the vp9 trigger and ergos better than most strikers but ESPECIALLY more than glocks. I actually shot better and liked the vp9 striker trigger than the p30 SA trigger.That being said VP9 is just as snappy as the PDP and nobody gives it any shit for that.
>>64385617Yeah I neglected to mention that.Also people don't give it shit because kochsuckers are necessarily rabid and braindamaged in order to overpay for HK to begin with, they're certainly not going to criticize something they think is supposed to be ubermensch.
>>64383779Grip and sighting are both more important than trigger pull. Like by a long shot.
I've shot the G19 Gen 5, G17 Classic, VP9, and G17 Gen 5I would say that the VP9 still feels better than all of them but the Gen 5 triggers aren't that far behind
>>64385637Try a PDP
>>64385663It's an inevitable purchase, but I have kind of checked out now, I bought plenty of guns that I just wanted moreAnd yes one of them was a Walther...PPK
>>64377438why are all the coolest handguns cancelled
>>64385719Beretta incest
>>64385670Instead of buying new guns, why not find a range that offers infinite swaps for a flat fee and help scratch the itch that way? I shot like 300-400 rounds through all 3 varieties of Echelons without ever having purchased one.
>>64385719Because while people say they want new and different what they really want is old and monotonous
How do I counter this without locking my elbows?>>64385719Automatic pistols were solved years ago and nobody is ever going to increase market share by deviating from the solution
>>64385841With every pistol more or less turning into a Glock, I don't see why every company is still stuck competing on the same utilitarian/tactical stage. It would be nice if somebody would try to differentiate their product with decent styling, but anything that's not a 1911 inevitably gets the murdered-out cheesegrater look.
>>64385125This is a really demanding one. Most real handgun qualifiers have a margin of acceptable accuracy. Drawing a face on a B8 at 7 yards requires you to basically have Olympic grade trigger control, where the margin of acceptable error for each shot is the diameter of a pencil, lest your drawing be incoherent.
>>64385884HKs are just beautiful creations/machines. There's not a bad looking one.
>>64385794I like seeing my collection grow
What handgun brands attract midwits?
>>64385982Glock
>>64385982S&W, CZ and Walther
>>64385982Walther
Canik users are abject fucking retards
>>64385982If I look at the midwit homebase (reddit)>canik>cz>walther>fn>springfield
>>64385929funny how p320s stopped going off after that air force guy was charged with killing that guy.
Hey guys
>>64385919The P30SK, and whatever that new subcompact thing they released on the US market is called. I say this as an HK enjoyer.
>>64385884I hate the aesthetics of forward serrations generally. But they do make sense on optic cut handguns.
>>64386062For anyone who's been curious, that's cat puke stuck in all the serrations. Long story.
>>64386089nigga have you heard of a brush?
My carry piece
>>64385358Someone at S&W realized thay might want to make money….
>>64386094It's a Bryco. I'm afraid a brush might take some metal with it.
>>64386113no ones gonna buy them
>>64386097>No BUIS despite the RCR having one of the worst attachment methods Hmm
>>64386126May I see all these screw failures?
>>64386139So you trust bending an Allen key 30 degrees as a method of determining torque
Berettas are the patrician's choice, but who comes after?
>>64377460The Beaner pig did absolutely everything wrong.......then again, are we surprised?
>>64386145So you have nothing to back up your claims?
>>64377640Why is there a limping groid with no hands in the red shorts? LOL! Holy Shit California is a fucking hellhole. LOL!
>>64386155I have one and it's come loose on me twice, about after 1000 rounds each >>64385090Today IWI released a new Jericho
>>64386162Vibratite or loctite?
>>64386162https://iwi.us/firearms/jericho-941/
>>64386145NTA, but it's probably about as good as any other. Skilled techs can torque with precision equal to unskilled techs using a click wrench after all.Torque wrenches work by loading up a spring with your applied torque, up to the point of the internal click bars reversibly buckling. The allen key is also a spring, so this is just as valid, particularly noting that all steels tend to have roughly equal stiffness. You just have to get good at visualizing the deflection instead of relying on a distinct stimulus.
>>64386170well speced and priced
I've had several red dots come loose until I started doing things correctly>clean the screw threads and screw hole really good using rubbing alcohol on a gun patch and a q tip to get into the hole>use vibratite just like it says on the package don't just throw it on the screw and put it on>put the vibratite on the screws and let it dry for 30-60 minutes until it looks hard >torque it to spec
>>64386150H&K, Glock, S&W
>>64386162It looks awful
>>64386225What an antisemitic thing to say.
>>64381597Fair>>64386154He doesn't sound mestizo https://youtu.be/1gEYhLaYbIo?t=38
>>64386248Well excuse me, I think Jews did it right the first time.
>bought a new G30 Gen 5 for a pretty decent price today>tfw just found out that Glock is discontinuing it along with half their catalogDoes this mean they’re going to come out with it as an MOS soon? I thought they just released the G30.5 a year ago, and now they’re already discontinuing it.
Calling it now, Gen3 will be discontinued in light of the California Glock ban>>64381040>>64386158It's still possible to use pistols without hands, pil rel
pic rel
>>64386044What's funny is that sig would actually pay someone to post that same post word for word across 4chan over the past several weeks. What a stange damage control campaign.It's not true of course, there was just that incident that happened at a USPSA match where one fired in the holster and luckily struck the ground between the shooter and RSO. Anyways burn in hell with all your children may they die of horriric slow cancers.
>>64386044Just because you don’t follow the news doesn’t mean it doesnt still happen faggot.
>>64386403Malding little glocksucker lol
Bad news to CA anons, your faggot ass governor signed the Glock ban to law.
>>64385209I feel like we'll see the arexs pretty soon with how much I'm seeing them advertised on youtube. I hope they do something like the p226 Xfive reserve next.>>64385358I think the 36 is a very classy gun and I'm going to get one for myself for Christmas, but it's really hard to justify when nothing is wrong with my 640. Also I hope those rideout arsehole guys fail and file bankruptcy for making such an ugly gun. At least the laugo alien looks cool.>>64386162Bring back 41ae
>>64386044>funny how p320s stopped going off after that air force guy was charged with killing that guy.It literally just happened again like 10 days ago, you stupid fucking double turbo moulie
>>64386308>Does this mean they’re going to come out with it as an MOS soon?I don't think they actually sold that many G30. They might just not. It's gone. 30S is gone. 36 is gone. 29 is gone. This whole big small subcompact format is gone completely, deleted from reality, they are no more, just like 357 sig and 45 gap.
HELLO I WANT A METAL FRAMED DASA 9MM THAT WORKS GREAT WITH A SILENCERRECOMMEND?
>>643866229fags really have ruined the gun industry.
>>64386643Sir have you considered the Sig P226?
>>64386660I refuse to buy sig.
>>64386661I don't know then, fnx-9 tactical?
>>64386673that's polymer framed
>>64386643M9A4I wished they made them in non gay colors.
>>64386661Why?
>>64386681yeah. I don't like FDE>>64386686my family was killed by a p320
>>64386643Beretta 92, M9A4 but you can just buy the threaded barrel
>>64386643If you won't consider the other options the Arex Zero Tactical ships with 6 optic plates, threaded barrel, 3 20 round mags and is like $600. I love mine but shes a thick bitch so I hope you have large hands. Lok grips help
>>64386688So you're basing your real life decisions on what some anonymous lying internet faggot says?
>>64386758I have 8.5 glove hands
>>64386772Idk man I work at a hospital so I only go by M/L/XL. The P226 and CZ 75/tanfoglio are more universally sized, the Arex demands large hands and honestly so does the Berretta but that one flies under the radar for how CHUNKY it is for some reason.
>>64378082>your gun sucks, here's a $3k piece of shit that can go off if the muzzle or hammer are struck hard enough>btw don't overinsert the mag it'll snap the extractor>what do you mean, that's a deal-breaker in a firefight?>what do you mean, everything else worth buying on the market does the same thing for a quarter of the price?>s-stop laughing poor>I have expensive things>stop laughingI could probably sell this dipshit a bridge in Brooklyn if I hyped him up enough, holy shit lmao
>64378333>64378490>Projection: The CommentsNo (You) for you. Show handgun or shut up retards.
>>64386945imagine being so stupid you take that post seriously
>>64387034>imagine being so stupidHeh. I don't need to imagine, loser.
>>64386645Or consider that in these trying times, people want to consolidate their calibersI'm pretty much sticking to 9mm, 5.56, 12 guage, .308, .38, .357, and .22 while buying some other calibers in my collection every now and then.And the most important calibers for me personally are 9mm, .22, and 5.56
>>64386175What's actually new about it?
>>64387511It’s 10% more jewish
it is a tenifer world we just live in it
>>64386089>cat puke stuck in all the serrationsWew, I once had to clean off scenter from my pistol. Before I started carrying, I would leave it in the armrest compartment of my vehicle. A spray bottle was thrown in there, leaked out and solidified over night. My cleaning routine already involves soaking everything in CLP but the nearly stripped frame, I just had to scrub harder to remove the gunk and scrapped clear the serrations with a tooth pick. There's a subtle, oblong mark where the liquid had pooled oddly enough >>64386078Any pistol optic worth its weight in salt functions as a slide handle. The first R in RMR stands for 'rugged' after all>>64378333>>64378490You're probably lying when you say "I'm not going to assault you or your family."
>>64386044They're still going off, cops also offloaded a lot of P320s onto the secondhand market. Fewer people are trusting them, so fewer people are carrying them now, so fewer instances are occurring.
Got an old Beretta 96A1 I I inherited from my grandfather. Think it's worth it to still get a new M9, or is the old .40 close enough design wise to save my money and stick with?
>>64387782You haven't specified what your POU is for it
>>64387828General range toy/collecting
>>64387834Well, .40 S&W is double the price of 9x19 and collection pieces aren't supposed to be fired much anyway ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
HEY BURT!!!I saw this and thought of you.https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/5021/937/sig-sauer-p226s-xfive-blue-moon-semiautomatic-pistol-with-case
>>64387782Just stick with the 96 and I say this as a huge Beretta fan. Do you own any other handguns?
i dont know why you guys have to call eachother out by name, you all read every post in these generals anyway.
>>64388004post groups
>>64387938Yep, already got a collection
>>64387479Nah this always happens whenever the founder CEO of a big company passes away. The new leadership steps in and starts taking an axe to things trying to be a hero. They claim it’s to streamline their manufacturing process, while at the same time they’ve been keeping Gen 3 alive just for California. How many SKUs of the 19, 19X, 45, and 47 do they really need? The 29 and 30 were based, but for the past ten years whenever someone searches google or youtube for “what should I buy for my first gun,” they get tons of self-proclaimed experts saying that 9mm is justasgud as 40, 45, and 10mm despite a standard 9mm cartridge being literally half the size of a standard 45 ACP cartridge in both bullet weight and case capacity.
>>643880629mm is just as good you fucking retard. .40 and .45 fans act like their respective calibers are like launching cannonballs
God's caliber btw
>God's caliberLacks sufficient penetration, kek>>64388145>.40 and .45 fansPerpetually coping with the inferiority of their cartridge compared to 10x25
>>64388145>9mm is just as good you fucking retard.No it’s not. As long as the minimum penetration requirement of 12” in gel is consistently met, then expansion is how you determine which load is superior in regards to both physiological and psychological stops. 45 will always expand more than 9mm, so 45 will have a better effect on target as long as it meets the penetration standard.
>>643882749x19 will always pierce better than .45 ACP
>>64387782You can drop in a 9mm barrel into a 96 and it will work fine.
>>64387511Factory optic cut, steel, 700 bucks MSRP
>>64388302No it won’t. Penetration depends more on the projectile design and composition than the caliber itself. The FBI only switched to 9mm in 2015, because it took that long for ammo manufacturers to design 9mm bullets that would defeat all the barrier testing protocols that 40 and 45 could beat back in the 1990’s.
>>64388445NTA but also the 9mm JHP performance is hampered by barrier penetration requirements while .40 has to make no compromise there.
for those with experience with leather shoulder holsters, do they actually make bigger pistols more comfortable to carry, or are they only recommended together for concealment purposes? my intuition tells me that having a big fuck off pistol in your armpit would feel a lot more uncomfortable than having it on your hip or thigh, but i don't really knowthis is more for larp and running around in the woods than any kind of every day carry thing, so concealment or flagging people thing isnt a concern
>>64388551They are very comfortable, but not very concealing. Open jacket will flash the holster. Stability for running is ok if holster is connected to the belt on the bottom and doesn't just swing free.
A store near me has some DAO P229s in .40 for 500 dollars. Is that a good deal?
>>64388445>FBI only switched to 9mm in 2015, becauseNo, they switched because it took that long to admit their mistake. There have been bonded, barrier insensitive 9mm JHPs (Ranger-T) since the fucking 90s shortly after they switched to .40 Short & Weak. There has been NO excuse but institutional pride for the 30 years gap.
>>64388629No.
>>64388629Ew, fuck no. I wouldn't buy ANYTHING in .40 unless it was under $400 especially a DAO
>>64388633FBI doesn’t use Ranger T. Gold Dot G2 is what prompted them to switch to 9mm.
>>64388667FBI making stupid gear decisions doesn't change the timeline.
When I’m dry firing and shooting with my carry gun, do I want to have one smooth motion with the trigger pull the entire way through or should I be going up to the wall as I line my sights and then break when I am ready to fire?
>>64388629500 is high for cop surp
>>64388564sounds good. still deciding if it's worth it because muh attachments but it seems very neat>Stability for running is ok if holster is connected to the belt on the bottom and doesn't just swing free.i briefly wore a shittier leather holster that came with that leather strap but it felt kinda constricting. now that i'm getting a proper one, i'm thinking of attaching it via some kind of elastic band instead
Went to the range today10 rounds in the corners, 60 in the center at 12ish yards. Not my finest work desu wa
>>64388824Standing right?
>>64388824And then this is 2 mags, full on dumping, also at 12ish yards
>>64388826Yeah, don't think I've ever shot a handgun from a bench
>>64388517The only thing I like about 9mm aside from cost is how small you can get a carry gun for it. Every full-size 9mm pistol I own just feels excessively huge. A 4-3.5” barrel is like the ideal length for it, whereas with 45 I wouldn’t want to go shorter than a G30 or G36 which are 3.77”.
