Would modern militaries repel a Combine invasion?
>>64378798For about 7 Hours, tops
We still don't know what the invasion really looked like, but what we do know is that:A) The invasion took place after an extended period of portal storms wreaked havoc across Earth, ripping up infrastructure and dumping Xen lifeforms all over the placeB) The Combine we see in HL2 are simply a cheap occupation force, which is why the bulk of their manpower and equipment is sourced directly from Earth itself. The real deal is way worse.
>>64378804the Combine from the game are basically the Afghan National Army
>>64378808The combine actually fought back though
>>64378804This is the only correct answer.
>>64378798think of every single country undergoing a full scale invasion from both inside & outthe forces invading have no considerations for fuel, food, or ammo, or even casualties now pair that with non-stop earthquakes between up to cat-10, and the equivalent of extremely aggressive bears & badgers randomly teleporting everywhereso no, they wouldn't be able to handle itthe combine you see ingame are a glorified police & counter-terror force, the ones who invaded were more akin the the french invading egypt
>>64378798>fires tactical nuclear warhead into ur portalOopsie daisy!
>>64378798No, not even remotely. Like, modern armies DIDN'T repel the invasion, the game isn't set in the 1800s dude the Combine didn't show up in pre-modern times. But they're a civilization with a fucking Dyson Sphere, they're optimistically thousands of years ahead of us. The only advantage humanity had was getting underestimated + just not being very important, better teleport tech, and a traitor who did in fact do a pretty good job of keeping them from completely exterminating us day 1 which bought time for a lucky resistance helped by effectively divine intervention (directed by an agent of some other super civilization or entity).You're retarded if you think a primitive planet bound civ like ours would stand any chance outside of that sort of shit though. Hell if anything we've regressed in our ability to resist since HL2 came out, now the Combine could probably just get most of humanity to go along with it to "own the libs". If, IF we don't keep self-destructing like we are right now and actually got our shit together and started serious solar system colonization and went upload then in a century or two we might be able to resist outright.
>>64379625>now the Combine could probably just get most of humanity to go along with it to "own the libs".You're suggesting that the Combine, who's whole Earthside propoganda campaign is based on becoming TRANShuman would try to loop in the right? lol. lmao.
>>64378798They bait the Combine into invading India.Combine die from the smell.
Someone should make a mod to make Manhacks more like realistic drones by having them blow up like a grenade when they make contact.
>>64379841>all the Synths suffer a War of the Worlds style deathBLOODY BITCH BASTERD
>>64379881Freeman dies in some sewer drain somewhere
>>64380242Freeman is protected and empowered by his own alien benefactor, and morphine. Mostly morphine, like 70/30. Ain't no drone gonna stop him.
>>64379625>The only advantage humanity had was [unprintable Dr. Breen apologism]Consider our vortigaunt bros.We lose any alien invasion scenario because just being able to travel here for the invasion means technology beyond anything humanity has.But if the Combine are masters of an oppressed slave empire then it's no reach at all to write a story where they're toppled by a rebellion of all their subject races.They spent Half Life 2 building up the narrative that you're a resistance hero and The Free Man, so that seems like the obvious way to take the narrative if they'd been fucked to make more games. Has anyone seen Gabe and George R.R. Martin in the same room?
>>64378877They’re an inter dimensional empire a fucking tactical nuke isn’t going to stop them. That’s probably Stone Age shit to them
The Combine can throws planets worth of enslaved aliens at other planets, no military on earth can withstand a 100% militarized planet's worth of forces.
>>64380785>We lose any alien invasion scenario because just being able to travel here for the invasion means technology beyond anything humanity has.It's canon in-game and a major plot point that humanity's teleport tech is actually much more advanced then what the Combine has, and Aperture's is crazy advanced. One of those fluke scenarios where we happened to get some key insights that meant we leapt far ahead in one area of physics and tech. How realistic that is can be debated but it was true. The combine portals didn't work in the same universe (or at least not on the same planet), and was enormously power consuming. That's why the just had the single big one.The most "realistic" survival scenario for humanity in case like that, short of bootstrapping through some Singularity deal asap (which would also be risky as hell and mean abandoning baseline humans as we know it), would be to make full extreme use of Portal tech to go distributed off planet. Millions of space stations and colonies and asteroid facilities and shit, across many star systems, all linked by wormholes so it feels like a single environment (you can "travel across town" through different habitats and it feels like 10 miles but you crossed hundreds of light years) but has no central access point, different parts could be cut, and it's hard to even find. For power you can have wormholes in close orbit around random stars, you can bring in resources and dump trash/heat, you can actually achieve effectively perfect cloaking because you can use a wormhole to some gas giant in another star system entirely as a thermal dump so that your starship/base itself emits no heat. It's one of those seeming simple fun gimmick bits of tech that if you stop and think about exploiting it to the max is ludicrously powerful. And the polar opposite of the Combine super society of a dyson sphere, instead a massively decentralized civilization that makes full use of shitty star systems that'd normally be ignored.
>>64378798
>>64380891>It's canon in-game and a major plot point that humanity's teleport tech is actually much more advanced then what the Combine hasNo it isn't lolThey didn't even have teleportation before the Combine came. And Portal is a non canon puzzle game
>>64379650>would try to loop in the right?Hey if the idiots fall for it.>Hey yo guys we're gonna inflict great suffering upon these people (and you)>Omg epic accelerationism! I don't fucking care as long as the libs seethe.
>>64378798probably not, from what little info we know about the actual combine army and not the mallcops they left behind, they would pretty much curb stomp just about anything that isn't relatively close to their tech level
>>64381217What? You use Black Mesa teleporters in Half Life 1.
>>64381217No he's right. This is relevant in HL2.Local teleportation (and more energy efficient teleportation) is something the covenant would certainly want. At worst you can consider it a sidegrade, and if the efficiency could be applied to interdimensional bullshit, it's certainly more advanced in a way.Humanity just hasn't been able to deploy it a great deal.
>>64381270Also Judith in 2 outright tells you to your face.
>>64381217The main reason that humanity is still alive is our teleporter tech. If it weren't for that Breen wouldn't have much to bargain with.
>>64378804They've also conquered multiple other entire universes. The combine are so far beyond earth in pretty much every way imaginable that it's laughable. The resistance is well aware of that too. Hell, their plan is basically: Destroy the portal and hope the vastness of the combine means they never noticed that little blip in the backend of nowhere.
>>64380891I want to see what a reinvasion 30 years after closing the citadel looks like. Would humanity have a chance against a proper Combine force with millions of local universe teleport spamming Cecilsoldiers?
Are combiboos always this insufferable?
>>64381349You VILL become a transhuman
>>64380695Also has this, which he swings at rather swift speed I might add.
>>64378798I don't think any modern army is equipped to deal with enemy that can teleport on strategic level
>>64381302what advanced technology did quisling or petain need to trade to save their respective populations?It's simply good occupation tactics to have a figurehead and an illusion of continuity of government.Taking the position is bad enough, begging or bartering for it? Breenies make me sick.pictured: Breen's knowledge of portal tech
>>64381302Untrue
>>64381434The strength required to swing a crowbar at such speed and inflict the damage he does to people and objects is substantial
>>64378808>>64378813Given the games’ taking obvious inspiration from the Eastern Front and the Holocaust, a more accurate analogy would be>Civil Protection/Overwatch = Jewish Ghetto Police (basically slaves who beat down their fellow slaves in exchange for moderately better food and living conditions/simply getting to exert power on lessers)>Breen = Judenrat, depending on your point of view, he's either a Chaim Rumkowski-tier traitor or a Adam Czerniaków-esque maverick trying to make the best of a bad situation>off-world Combine forces (Striders, Gunships, etc.) = Trawniki men/Ukrainische Hilfspolizei (auxiliaries who are basically one step above slaves themselves and are brought in as muscle to deal with unruly humans)>>64381256I'd imagine that Civil Protection, at least early on, was disproportionately comprised of assorted terminal contrarians and social misfits such as Ziggers, Commies, Spiritual Thirdies (1st Worlders with a 3rd Worldist mentality), and Neo-Nazis, who would gladly lick the ayyy boot stomping on a human face forever if it means sticking it to the Jews/Capitalists/Globohomo
>>64381217this is actually a plot point that is vaguely waved at later on, that the Combine is a Type-III/IV civilization when it comes to general energy manipulation and control, but that their universe perhaps lacks a natural source of certain exotic matters which would make teleportation/wormholes possible, or that perhaps their minds for one reason or another fail to comprehend the subject. while the Combine were eventually able to locate Earth through the Xenian otherworld, this still took months even with the radiation signal of the nuke, suggesting they have a poor understanding of traversing this border world, or in detecting anything within or from it. they may not have even created the portal through which they invaded, instead having only had it occur naturally during the portal storms, and invaded through it pre-emptively. this may be why their interspecies diplomacy seems to resemble dark forest gamesmanship, as they do not possess the ability to create these portals at will, but something else they know of or have been attacked by does.HL:A suggests that while the Combine are certainly Type-III on the typical Kardashev scale, they do not reach Type-Ω-minus on the anti-Kardashev scale, even if they can contain an entity which somehow DOES reach that level of control without the use of any observable technology. this suggests that not only is the Combine well beyond human reckoning, it is AFRAID of the thing that is manipulating and nudging humanity into conflict with it. humanity is an unwitting tool in the face of the cosmic horror that the Combine are facing.
>>64378798>>64378804No extra special Cthulhu mega tech is required for the combine to have conquered earth, just scale: if you teleported 10,000 striders into the 100 largest cities in the west and had them all just demolish buildings the second they appeared you'd smash the world economy so badly that half the world (the brown half but still) would starve to death. The collapse of global trade and electronic money exchange would be instantaneous, destroying everyone's ability to deliver food, gas, and electricity, and then you wouldn't be fighting a war against a modern military anymore.Consider that a single strider would be able to permanently cripple any power plant, dam, or bridge on earth before the weapons required to put it down even arrived on scene.
>>64379625>But they're a civilization with a fucking Dyson SphereIf it's not in the games it's not cannon, Gaylord.
>>64381500truet. held a similar sized crowbar once and tried italso the angle he swings it is very strange as he doesn't hold it at the bottom and swings the head but holds more in the middle and does a punching motion.
>>64378798With modern tech it would be called the 1-3 day war
How can mankind hope to prevail?
>>64380695>CRACK>*beep* *beep*>Major fracture detected>Morphine administered>*Whoosh*That withdrawal after 20 years in stasis must have been hell.
>>64381511>>64381256>>64379625What an unmitigated faggot you are lol, go back.
>>64378798no
>>64381511stop spamming your pedo meme
>>64382996>>64383995He is right though
>>64378798>Would modern militaries repel a Combine invasion?No, they would not.They would get crushed in less then seven hours.>>64381528The Combine do not have local teleportation.
>>64381217>Portal is a non canon puzzle gameBorealis
>>64378798Youtube videos about the invasion say the aliens opened up targeted portal hurricanes/tornado storms that decimated countries during the invasion.So no.
Finally, an excuse to post this.
>>64381680Why did he hate mommy milk so much?
Nice totalitarian regime you got there, Combine. Sure would be a shame if some spooky middle manager were to fuck it up...
>>64381217you're so fucking retarded valve will summon you as a playtester
>>64378877they almost certainly have things that make nukes look like a tinfoil ball
>>64381525>the fearsome aliens that we have no hope against are actually running from something even worseI love this trope, I think tyranids in 40k do it too.
>>64384041Nothing in your post makes the leftist noguns faggot right you turbo nigger, what am I even looking at?
>>64384546Trope is such a gay reddit term.
>>64385330What the fuck do you call it then?
>>64381680>I turned myself into a grub, Gordon! IM GRUB BREEN!
>>64378798>>64378804They're building Dyson Spheres in a different dimension they can traverse from, humanity has literally 0 chance of being anything but a space Haiti
>>64384363Do we know who the G-Man's clients are? I know that they are against the Combine, but I don't remember if we ever learn anything about his clients outside of that
>>64381528They can’t teleport to anywhere in particular. The entire plot of half life 2 is their specific lack of that technology and the one advantage humanity have.
>>64385567I'm pretty sure the G-Man is an American time lord.
>>64381256Tbh they could do that to both the left and rightAnd because they themselves are a managerial dystopia run wild they could also loop in the centristsWould anyone actually oppose them?
>>64384330What's the point of crotch guard armor if the reproductive organs have been removed?
>>64378798No, we don't know what they really used but it was probably a kinetic weapon from orbit or something else beyond our means. Plus the earth in HL was much more advanced due to years of Xen incursions and research from the rift creatures, so we're double fucked.
>>64379841>not even headcrabs want to attach to their headsThis is the way.
>>64385740You've got some big ass arteries down there, anon. When getting shot in the dick your loins will be the least of your worries.
>>64381339Bro, they have a Dyson sphere (that we know of). They're so beyond our scope it was over before it started.
>>64385552>They're building Dyson SpheresIf it's not in the games it's not canon
>>64381333not true at allthe combine need a link from both sides initially that was black mesa so in that context severing the connection from earth made it impossible for the combine to reach it, which is why in episode 2 the combine forces on earth try to use the ruins of the citadel to reopen that linkand in epistle 3 they nuke the combine with the borealis
>>64385764lmao no>I was left alone, riding the weaponized luxury liner into the heart of a Disparate world. An immense light blazed. I caught a cosmic view of a brilliantly glittering Dyson sphere. The vastness of the Disparate’s power, the futility of our struggle, blossomed briefly in my awareness. I saw everything. Mainly I saw how the Hyperborea, our most powerful weapon, would register as less than a fizzling matchhead as it blew itself apart. And what remained of me would be even less than that.
>>64378798Dunno, the actual games are quite ambiguous about what the combine's real strength is like. They could have dyson spheres and death stars, or they could just be dysfunctional paper tigers who did a sucker punch during the portal storms then made all that shit up to bluff the breenies. Or it could even be that Breen himself made it up to demoralize Gordon.
>>64385890Not really? Even with the portal storms, defeating the entire planet in 7 hours is far beyond our capabilities. So is the kind of insanely advanced genetic, cybernetic, and spatial control technology we see them have. And we do see at least one nexus world at the end of the game through the portal. Doesn't make them godlike but there's zero doubt in game they are ludicrously advanced over us.
>>64386016You only have to hit a hundred cities or so simultaneously and the earth is done.
>>64386016There's very little info about how the seven hour war went down, though. All we know is that they secured surrender in seven hours - which could have been done via a sucker punch followed by bluffing and some deceitful promises to help rebuild after the portal storms. They walked in during an apocalypse, that changes a lot.
>>64386114it looks like north America was pretty much destroyed
>>64385330it was called a trope even before your mother tried scratching you out with a coat hanger
>>64386068>"only"Anon, even moving military units like a Strider around the world from a single starting position in 7 hours is beyond our present capabilities. Not developing it and it's warp gun thing or armor, not mass manufacturing them, literally just even moving it. Starship might actually give us the ability to physically move a hundred tons of mass around the planet that fast but that'll still be many years from now.>>64386114Combine literally has antigravity tech and dimension guns. They use it casually all over the game. We have absolutely no ability right now to engineer the kinds of creatures we see, or the overwatch for that matter. At best that'll be decades in the future, and Half-Life 2 was 21 years ago. Portal storms didn't eliminate our nuclear capability, we have submarines and such, so they have a way to just neutralize that entirely. They have some sort of magic tower field that envelops the entire planet and completely shuts down our entire reproductive capability, specifically. They are draining the entire Earth into another universe. They find us such a non-threat (combined with whatever potential Breen offers) they don't just wipe us out. And they are able to prevent us from develop again beyond tiny hidden rebellion groups laying low.Yeah there can be some debate over the scale, but not that they're way ahead of Earth.
>>64386142>Anon, even moving military units like a Strider around the world from a single starting position in 7 hours is beyond our present capabilities.The unbeatable advantage was that the combine forces could use the mass portal event to drop a thousand striders in every city.You could do that with Sherman tanks and still win the "seven hour war"
>>64378798never played it. how different are our forces in game compared to modern irl ones? I know some very rudimentary lore but not enough.
>>64385751this neckbeard anti human fag is kind of annoying, lol. Humanity beats fiction every single time which includes this game as well.
>>64386016By the time the Seven Hour War happened, humanity had already basically had to retreat from rural areas due to Xen wildlife everywhere, and was basically clustered in overcrowded cities, with severe issues maintaining agricultural production. The Seven Hour War was really just the Combine showing up to a humanity that was already collapsed, and asserting authority over them.
>>64381528>if you destroy cities in a war then the money stops working and armies do not fightnigger what?>all the farms that are fine just stop producing food and all the military stockpiles disappear and there will be absolutely no resistance because thats how war works in the reddit video gameif the combine pull off 9/11 but ten thousand times worse every human alive is going to stop caring about money and just murder the combine, retard. not everyone is an obese coward cuckold like you. >uhhh uhhhstfu, technological NOTHING, you can not do shit, niggerfaggot, you LEFT the middle east and this would go down the same way (it canonically did). >such a non threat we need to make an entire dystopian system to control the non threat
>>64386971humans will never be pushed back by animals. we are able to systematically track/monitor them and make them extinct if we want. sorry, but you lose, cuck.
>>64379625begone, nigger>begone, niggerbegone, nigger>begone, niggerbegone, nigger>begone, nigger
>>64379625>peace = space colonisationliterally never. total all out chaotic fucking war, like WW2, is how you advance as a species. all this war right now is going to make us killzone tier in 40 years max. humanity would curb stomp your shit so fast bro it's almost comical, fucking soulless bugman. we literally have AI gods from the future protecting us
>>64387008>killzoneshadowfall specifically. also wolfenstein too ig
>>64380848>not going to>that's probablyI see, I see. now face the wall and prepare for your nuke
>>64381256>reddit tier politicsretard, I can not believe someone like you even exists. the accelerationists will take power in order to REPEL THE FUCKING INVADERS. Idiot. that is the breakdown scenario, humanity will become fascist if the combine invade because that is what gets shit done. have you seen history? when you are desperate you dont form a gay plebbit freedom group, you turn commie or nazi and fight wars. accelerationists will say "look, guys! aliens are trying to kill us, we should maybe learn to goosestep"
>>64381258wrong opinion detected, ick. Humanity = God
>>64381217the combine can easily teleport inbetween dimensions, however once they are in said dimension they can't teleport within it and have to rely on more traditional (abliet still very advanced) modes of transport, which is why they even allow humanity to somewhat live instead of just insta turning them into lobotimized soldiers or stalkers since they somehow found a way to teleport within their dimension
>>64387073ngl humanity would reverse engineer their shit so fast and just copy paste their own lobotomized soldiers.
>>64385567we don't know jack shit and likely will never know, they can be anything from some imaginary people Gman made up to fuck with who ever he yoinks for his own end goals, to giga eldtrich horrors playing such a high tier game of unimaginable dimensional chess involing universes just for the lols and gman is just a giga wagie for them
>>64387082Reverse engineering alien tech made for aliens? That quick? HL2 cbine collaborators have the benefit of the support of the combine, IRL does not run off XCOM tech tree logic.I'd expect at least a few years before even the more basic combine tech yielded high advantages, though cutting them up for weak points is a lot faster, assuming humanity doesn't get stomped.Which it probably would. The combine had a lot of stacked advantages but at the end of the day they're extradimensional invaders who can simply drown the world in units even if we assume human units can put up a serious fight, a human dying means a lot more than some hunter dying.
>>64387101alien tech compatible with the human body? yeah, you reddit spacing coon. Humanity would destroy the combine.
>>64387101>who can simply drown the world in unitsexcept they can't, because they didn't.
>>64387106It's called a paragraph break, fagatrom, do they not have those in your country?It's only 'compatible' because they spent time developing it, and also flat out dont give a single shit about how it affects thr human it is done to. Even the most basic ethical and practical safeguards would add time to implementing heavy cybernetics, and we dont even know if they had humanoid cybernetics before they came to earth, last I checked. For all we know their combat forces consist solely of animal-like biomechanical drones.You'd probably be more likely to see it leak into prosthetic tech first, since it's filling gaps.>>64387108That's kinda what's implied to have been done with the 7 hour war, they dumped in an overpowering force, won, and dragged thay force elsewhere.hl2 humanity wasn't doing well before the combine came but they still absolutely overpowered any resistance that was left in a few hours, which is still impressive.
>>64384330Fucking kommandostore Quislings
>>64386963TLDR: The invasion took place sometime in the early 2000s, ground zero being new mexico. Portal storms ravaged international infrastructure, and let in various types of alien fauna, ranging in size from small dogs to small elephants. a few days after this disaster, combine forces show up. >>64387082copy what? part of what makes the combine as scary as they are is how willing and easy it is for them to meld bio and tech. a huge chunk of their mechanized forces are conquered aliens with guns grafted to their heads. back here on earth, scientists with take a sheep sperm and inject it into a sheep egg and have a sheep carry it to term and then they cream their pants over how science created an artificial sheep. the fuck they did! all they had to do was use a syringe instead of a sheep dick and suddenly we are so knowledgeable in the land of bioengineering? Compared to combine, Earth forces are hopelessly behind in that realm. the time spent developing lobotomized soldiers would be better spent developing tactical portal tech
>>64387130>he thinks humans do ethical safeguards in warLMAO at this literal "fagatrom" redditor. mad that I dont give a fuck about your favourite widdle vidya faction? you don't even need first world nations bro, the average ak using cannibal would wipe out the combine for free food
>>64387139>omg the fictional creatures thought up by humans are way scarier than humans (ignores every "warcrime" ever committed irl) bro you know it's bad when fucking japan and china are scarier than the combine lol irl
>>64387142the combine isn't even eldritch or vast, that is called ambiguity for narrative purposes. you can not imagine true eldritch horror, so all the combine shit is just human stuff. it is all inspired by humanity, who is superior to the combine.
Humans fuck better, they do war better, they think better, they have better ideologies, they adapt better, humans are superior and stomp the combine outside of a pre written narrative.
>>64385567The ending of the first game hinted at his employers taking over Xen and Gordon might have to go back to the place at some point in the next game. I guess we'll find out in the next game lol.
>>64386127>Soudan or NegrolandHow did Gaben get away with it?More seriously, I believe this is a map of where they have looked for Gordon or at least that the places they don't know the status of.
This thread holds the distinction of being the most autistic one on /k/. Borderline Spacebattles tier.
>>64387180>Humans fuck betterNot with the suppression field up they don't.
>>64387508thats where the war and adaptation part comes into it
>>64387508do they ever clarify how the suppression field actually works? I was under the impression that it didn't necessarily make it impossible to fuck or get horny, just that it essentially sterilised everyone.
>>64384330I maintain the combine and HL2 are one of the most creative, disturbing and compelling dystopias I've ever encountered.
>>64385757wrong
>>64378808That's disconcerting.
>>64387458>the places they don't know the status of.the question marks, sure. but I think it implies that north America is destroyed, possibly from the portal storms and xen wildlife.
>>64387532It breaks down certain protein chains essential for fetal development. So yeah people can still fugg but not get preggers.
>>64381528The Combine didn't specifically seek out Earth, they were originally at war with the Nihilanth's species who retreated to Xen and humans just kinda bumped into them. This means that the Combine can't just straight up go to any place they want, they need to exploit resonance cascades and use the rift to get to a new place, then establish a relay through their interdimensional portals so they can travel between those worlds as they want. Meanwhile, humans can go wherever the fuck they want without the need of exploiting rare phenomenons through their own portal tech using Xen as an entry/exit point. Unfortunately the Nihilanth also used Xen as his holdout while he was fleeing from the Combine, so the Combine accidentally discovered Earth through humans using their Xen teleporters, then came to Earth and fucked everything up. However, all of this also means that once the connection is broken between two Combine occupied worlds due to the portals on either side getting destroyed, they can no longer re-establish a pathway, because they need a resonance cascade that they can exploit and the chance of another cascade happening on the world they've just lost is extremely fucking low. That's why closing the super portal was so devastating for the Combine, because they can no longer reach Earth and their troops on Earth can no longer call for backup from their homeworld. Also, that's why the Advisors learning about the Borealis was a massive blow to the recent human victory, becaus using human teleportation tech in tandem with their own could re-open the portal to the Combine homeworld, though resurrecting Eli and the end of HLA means they no longer have this knowledge, so humanity have won after all at the price of Alxy getting locked into a rape dungeon outside of time and space.
>>64378798>Would modern militaries repel a Combine invasion?Just send some Russian helicopters their way and say that it's Ukrainian tanks.
>>64381511Pregnant anne frank should be hashbanned
>>64387496Nothing wrong with that.
>>64386970That's a really dumb statement, considering we're discussing fiction.
>>64387751we are talking about our modern REAL forces encountering fictional ones. fuck off back to twitter or some shit you casul
>>64386970>>64387816lol what a fucking retard you are and probably fat as fuck too>rah rah our magic beats physics!!whew
>>64379841Lol the best planetary defence, indian fucking microbes and funghi
The Chinese will save us
>>64381680>>64385465on the topic of breengrubhttps://youtu.be/QMWAU0OcSgAhttps://youtu.be/Sdue3gcaAA0
>>64387838>rah rah our magic beats physicsthats literally you though, fucking kek. this retarded nigger doesn't even know what our modern world is capable of, still living in his little faggot nostalgia bubble playing vidya gaymes
>>64379625>>64380785Didn't the scrapped ending of Episode 3 imply there was no hope of beating the combine, and the best hope humanity has is simply cutting themselves off from Teleport links, hiding in the vastness of Space and hoping the Combine just forget about them.
>>64387864I know this is fanfic but this is fucking phenomenal. the backstory it gives that slowly reveals it's about the vortigaunts and xen is perfect. the only thing I find confusing is who the "archivist" is supposed to be, is that meant to be the nihilanth?
>>64387921>we have antigravity cuz... LE HUMAN SPIRIT XDyou need to go backno your ability to float in fresh water doesn't count anon
>>64387941Sure though in fairness if they ever decided to do HL3 they might change the ending around a fair amount. But it'd be refreshingly realistic if no, you can't actually win against the ancient super civilization in a straight fight without millennia of prep but space is fucking big the multiverse is fucking bigger and you can just hide in the dark forest.But lots of angles they could take if they felt like it. Like, even for HL:A they debated a bunch of possible endings. Valve devs said they even considered literally having G-Man grant Alyx her wish, like, he just snaps his fingers and poof Combine are gone and that's the end of the half-life series and explains lack of HL3 lol.
>>64387955reddit strawman, you should go back before you hurt your brain even more, lmao. the modern REAL WORLD would defeat the combine. you are projecting your illogical bullshit onto me, bro, that "theyre interdimesnional n shiet homie, they is eldritch n shiet", lol stfu you mouth breather
>>64387975That would be a dumb ass pull and ruin the Gmans mystery. But having the Epilogue be Gordon just having a regular day at work in Black Mesa and the experiment goes just fine would be funny.
awww, poor widdle dork mad that his fav everz bad guys arent actually.... le Cool and scawy? poor widdle bby gonna shid n piss himself becuz Humanity would kick their ass. crazy how it doesnt even realise all the transhumanist shit is within our reach and literally being worked on right now.
>>64387998>That would be a dumb ass pull and ruin the Gmans mystery.I agree that'd have been pushing it a bit.>But having the Epilogue be Gordon just having a regular day at work in Black Mesa and the experiment goes just fine would be funny.This would have been kind of cool though, funny but also low key terrifying, like a little change to reality and everything goes different and nobody even knows or notices how the entire course of history is altered forever.
>>64387941That's pretty much what happened at the end of Ep2 when the super portal was closed. The fact that the Combine conducted a massive assault against White Forest means they're unable to simply open a new portal from either side, that's why they were desperate to stop the rocket that eventually closed it. Keep in mind that they've deliberately blew up the Citadel and City 17 just to create the super portal, that's how desperate they were to remain in contact with the Combine domain. In the end, nobody won. Humans are a dying race, Earth is damaged beyond repair and the Combine forces left on Earth have been cut off from their massive empire.
>>64388011the "great combine transhuman soldier" consists of ceramic, steel, and kevlar armour (we have this already); heart/lung helperz (we have this already); gene editing (we have this already); and a bunch of other shit that just helps us in the long run after we steal it. yeah, not too good, are you? fucking putrid little worm
You do realise that we can literally engineer a master race right now and just don't because it's peace time? as soon as le ebin interdimensional eldritch ayys start trying to fuck with literally everyone on the planet, we are going to be throwing so much fucking bullshit at them that they will drown. you understand you could order a kit RIGHT NOW and start learning how to do it? It's very easy too learn, you think china is gonna care about ethics? their whole history is literal fucking dystopia. we already HAVE drones, dude. you can make an auto turret RIGHT NOW look it up, it's been done. you can hook an ai up to a nerf gun bro how are you this dumb. and then you just provide us with the one thing our scientists need to break the game? the one thing they have been trying to find. holy shit you are sheltered, lil geek faggot with your video games holy shit, you disgusting anti human scum.>"the hecking game let them win so its the same irl, ur just spouting magics"sit down and shut up
>>64388011>>64388065>>64388084oh look. some nigger is having a melty in the video game bad guy thread because he doesn't like that human were beaten by advanced aliens.cry more, faggot. you only look like a retard.
honestly this is is the same type of retard saying "war sets us back" as if war hasn't made us capable of space travel. yep, I guess the hecking V2s were just a fluke or someting lel>establishes how existentially terrifying his side is>"b-but you guys wont unite against us, r-right"This is what happens when you let lukewarm intelligence get educated; they start thinking their opinions are worthwhile and not retarded >>64380848case in point bro can't explain what he means by "interdimensional" or how it stops a nuke from hurting you. dimensions like time, and space? quantum mechanics? nah, you meant>"da fkn space magics made thems teleporting 2 tha hecking other planet dimension"and>"they conquered multiple universes"as if "universe" is just the same vaguely huge concept that should be marveled at by default.
>>64388011https://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/image/rLxmQFQVXMFgB7ob7_msdA/wtfI get that you're bootyblasted, but vidya does not call for this level of autism.
64388090lol irl at this coon getting mad and trying to use my own words lmao, he can't even stick to canon>beaten by advanced aliens except they LOST lmfao, your side LOST you absolute pathetic parasite, even with your fake fictional magic crap. how can you expect to defeat that which exists outside of you, the thing you are a mere shadow of? talking like some halfwit stoner mentioning dimensions n sheit
>>64388109thats three posts and two of them are from different nations? hell, one of them is literally spouting transhumanist sounding combine rhetoric
>>64388084We can't get out of earth's orbit in any meaningful capacity. A race that has easy space travel could slap us all over. Imagine a modern country fighting another that doesn't have any sort of air defence or any way of shooting down an enemy aircraft.
>>64388131the point was "war is good and advances civilization", so the modern irl world would curb stomp the combine
>>64388119Autism>>64388127You're an idiot>>64388144How so?
>>64388154>how so>"theres a guy over there i want to be better than so i am going to invent ways to beat him"literal down syndrome fr
>>64388162It's fiction you melt
this shitshow is what happens when you make a low effort off topic thread about /v/ stuff. Literally no one has even compared different forces/tech.
>>64387535yup
>>64388022So the Combine detonated the Citadel to open a super portal that the Overworld could use to burrow back through to Earth, but the satellite closed it somehow?
>>64388174>"Would modern militaries repel a Combine invasion?"
would modern militaries with access to modern tech and science be able to repel the combine? yeah, they would do so easily. tired of you repping that blatant anti human shit and then turning around to say "it's fiction you melt" especially when you factor in reverse engineering
>>64388194Apparently closing interdimensional portals is much easier than opening them, since the Combine were able to close all the 'wild' portals that were created on Earth after the Black Mesa incident, to stabilize their newly conquered world. Since Eli and Kleiner are the biggest portal experts of humanity and they probably have access to Combine tech as well, it's not impossible in-game wise that they were able to discover the means of closing portals.
The Combine are a plot device and essentially serve as a way for Gordon Freeman to continue doing 1 man army stuff. You could argue that the Combine really don't care about humans in any meaningful way so their laziness and lack of investment is matching that, but HL2 is clearly emulating some kind of commienazi dystopia that is supposed to make you think of dystopian novels from the mid 20th century and that clashes with the hyper efficient cyborg empire that is willing to even bother with invading Earth in the first place. They didn't deplete Earth's resources, they just killed off a lot of Humans and then played with the remaining Humans to see if they could be modified to be good drones.
>>64378798No. Even if they're limited to what we see in the game, they can just mass produce and teleport in enough to crush us.The Combine only appeared after following Nihilanth to Xen and then to Earth. Fucking around with Xen teleportation is likely to cause portal storms so the two go hand in hand. Earth would be beneath the Combine's notice if there's no teleportation shenanigans going on.The portal storms fucked the ecology all over the planet, forcing humanity into the more defendable cities. When the Combine invaded they performed a decapitation strike targeted at the cities, teleporting in parts of the Citadels and sharting out a fuck ton of forces.We don't know what there combatants included apart from Striders. Crab and Mortar Synths apparently makeup a chunk of the Combine's regular army. The Overwatch is their version of the Afghan National Army, adapting their tech to the local populace in a frugal manner. They're deployed off-world, so the Combine must have some use for the human form even if it's just to trial it.When Gordon knocked down their portal network while killing Breen, they lost off-world communication. Them deliberately overloading the reactor was to call for help. The satellite that was launched at the end of Episode 2 would've shut off the Combine's access to Earth forever, it's some Xen derived bullshitium that would've formed a barrier around the Earth.>>64388227u r dum
>>64388227In the lore, the Zen storms are like a Carrington event, Earth's militaries are caught with their pants down trying to push out orders using radios while the Combine is targeting every military installation they see. China/Russia and the US militaries get rekt.
>>64388330not how it would work irl.
>>64388348it would
>>64388348The US can't fight weather that drops hyper aggressive aliens capable of melting you on top of an incomprehensibly huge empire that knows to target your military infrastructure.
>>64388364incorrect. every nation has contingencies for that.>>64388370it literally can but also it's not just the US. you are really reaching and coping lol
>>64388084look man I love the pro-humanity enthusiasm, and I do believe humanity should get more credit than the "omg we would be powerless against any and all aliens" redditors give, but the combine took over in seven fucking hours. Canonically and within the context of the game humanity loses. The combine is a fictional threat, meaning we have to judge them according to the rules of their fiction, and those rules are that they fucked us in seven hours. you're being unbelievably autistic about it.
>>64388380A sub 1 civilization on the Kardashev Scale can't compete with a post 1 civilization while fighting off the worst national disaster in human history.
>>64388380stupid
>>64388387the comparison is the MODERN IRL military power of the entire earth vs the combine from the video game, traitor. there is NO possible way the combine wins in ANY scenario, since you are still putting them against OUR CURRENT MILITARY and CIVILIZATION>>64388389It can, canonically DID, and you are using made up fagslop terms again. nostalgia tripping does not erase the fact that we have the capacity to repel them.
>>64388380nigga we're not trying to clown on humanity but there comes a point where the combine could just chuck an asteroid at the planet and there's literally nothing we could do about that
>>64388424My guy the entire reason why humanity won is because G Man dumped a superhuman plot armor freak of nature in after Humanity was long defeated and the Combine had basically turned away from Earth to look at other stuff.
>>64388424nah you are wrong
>>64388387>"and those rules are that they"left like a bunch of bitch made motherfuckers who couldn't handle some petty guerrillas >>64388425they can not do such a thing otherwise they would have when they LOST
>>64388424okay, then. tell me how, in detail, earth's modern militaries would win in the following scenario:>easy mode - the combine wants earth intact. they destroy every major city and military installation from orbit (keeping in mind pretty much everywhere outside the cities is almost uninhabitable by this point because of xen wildlife), then send a ground invasion force that outnumbers humanity's remaining military forces by several orders of magnitude in sheer tonnage alone. how the fuck do we win that?>hard mode - the combine somehow gets repelled from the above scenario, so they just push the moon into earthhow the fuck do we win THAT?like take a second and explain the logistics here dude
>>64388431And why did the Combine lose anon?
>>64388431I think you're struggling to differentiate between the combine that gordon faces (which is a small policing garrison) and the actual full scale combine invasion force that took over initially anon. either that or you have severe autism
>>64388424legitimately, how does humanity deal with headcrab shells?
>>64388487pidor blood turning them gay
>>64388487Counter barraging the shells to kill the headcrabs. I don't know if headcrabs can chew through ballistic helmets, but if we add a bunch of spines and spikes to our helmets that may work.
>>64388501The threat is not in soldiers getting turned into zombies, it's your entire economy getting wiped out.
>>64388507Time to make an economy around killing headcrabs. Stable regions would be very valuable to live in or do business in, which is a commodity that can be traded.
>>64388431The Combine wasn't trying to genocide humanity in HL2 and it's episodes, they were trying to restore order, crush the uprising and reconnect with the Overworld. Now that's no longer an option due to the destruction of their super portal, the Combine remnants have no reason to play nice anymore and can simply rage quit by blowing up Earth. The only reason they didn't outright genocide humanity was because Breen made a deal with them, promising that humans will figure out local teleportation for the Combine in exhange of their survival. Humans survived not because of how badass we were, but because the Combine decided to keep us alive a bit longer to get what they want.
>>64388516if you are spending all your resources killing headcraps, you are spending no reasources buildings things to defend against the combine
>>64388521Well yeah, all the aspects combined are a no win situation. The issue is more that its just an overwhelming combination of things that brings all nations down.
>>64388535the main issue is that headcrab shells in and of themselves are a devastating strategic, biological weapon and it is not even close to the most powerful thing that the Combine can deploy.
>>64388545Well they're still artillery, which we can counterbarrage. There's way more xenobiology though that really messes with humans like the fungus you see in Alyx. There's a steep implication that the Combine are actively clearing out the more hostile flora and fauna that popped out of portals seeing how there's less of a problem with wandering around unoccupied areas in HL2 than in Alyx.
>>64388554I'm doing my part.
>>64388575This seems to be the economy ruining stuff, as super mold basically means you have to tear down the building, bury/burn the wreckage and start over, maybe even removing surrounding soil up to a foot deep or so.
The combine's capability for strategic biological warfare far exceeds even humanity's theorized efforts.
>>64378798>190 KB PNG>Would modern militaries repel a Combine invasion?Repel? They'd fund it.
>>64388436you have made an error, refer to >>64388197>>64388519they literally stopped reproduction >>64388438it was the mandate of heaven as Humanity's birth right
>64388686bait or autistic, no more replies for you
>>64378798Even ignoring any out of game stuff or anything hard to discover, the combine have technology that can just entirely turn off human reproduction.No, no one is beating them.
>>64388710>>64388686oops, you messed up your quote link, I fixed it for you. No need to thank me!
>>64378798If I made a fan animation/short movie depicting the Combine's invasion of Earth, I would want to heavily demonstrate how the Combine you fight in HL2 are equivalent to skeleton crew mall cops with stun batons by showing how powerful and full on cosmic horror-tier their real forces are. Well, even the ones who go to Earth are not the full-scale forces but a "recon squad". Like, a local time freeze and human soldiers and military hardware inside that bubble are slowly beginning to spaghettify, something like that. And never show real Combine units in the frame, just the devastation and aftermath of their actions.
>>64388805for me it would be>every major city gets nuked at once>variety of SCP tier bullshit going on all over the place>scenario follows a group of soldiers who manage to escape from a city into the countryside and then have to contend with xen fuckery whilst getting sporadic radio updates>recurring motif is war of the world style insane colours, explosions and sounds going on all over the sky and the distance, incomprehensibly large ships visible in the upper atmosphere
>>64388812I will caveat we know from the newspaper clippings in HL2 that 1. the invasion did allow for some form of news to be propagated post-surrender and 2. new york was undamaged enough that the UN building remained standing long enough to be used as the location of the surrenderalso, it's heavily implied that the war lasted 7 hours not because the combine took that long to win, but because that's how long it took humanity to figure out a way to communicate with them and broadcast a surrender.
1. humanity beats the combine2. humanity beats anti humans3. humanity beats all things 4. humanity rules supreme and sovereign and free over all
>>64388805this is blasphemous and not canon, hope that helps, anti human.
