I'm a poorfag that doesn't and has never owned a 1911. I don't want to pay over a thousand for a 1911 and I don't want kimber slop. For a couple hundred more I'm under the impression the only competetion is entry level springfield/colt. I'd rather use that extra money on ammo.I don't care about posting pictures of pretty guns on reddit for updoots or larping on /k/ all day about what I own that I never shoot to impress a board full of people that either don't own guns or also don't shoot.Is this gun reliable? From what I understand they no longer use MIM parts.
>>64384592>$500 turk shit>it doesn't use any MIM parts or cut corners>we swear!You should save that money and put it towards some beach front property in Arizona.
>>64384592Do it.
>>64384592Do it. >>64384605 is sour grapes because he spent $1000+ on some faggy Nighthawk or Springfield fuddy duddy. TISAS makes a quality forged 1911. It's not fucking hard to do. The bitching about it being turk are a mix of LARPorator Orthos, seething grekoids (who need to get a job and pay denbts btw), and assblasted Armenians (not my fucking problem y'all chose to be a part of the CSTO bufu party.)
They've been around for a while and have a very solid rep, go for it
>>64384592I have a couple of M1911s made by Springfield Armory. They are good middle of the road option. Reliable, but reasonably accurate.
>>64384592do it. you don't own a 1911 yet but I assume you've already got a 'better' gun for self defense so 500 bones for a range toy isn't the worse thing you could possibly do.
>>64384592
>>64384592Do it. Your soon to follow threads bitching about how no one told you it was shit will be entertaining. We gotta keep the board fresh.
>>64384592If you're poor, you should prioritize not being poor over gunko pops
>>64385076How specifically would it be shit?
>>64384592>Talk me out of it.You don't NEED a gun anon, you can always call 911, why do you have to be racist and want to kill niggers with your fuddy funf,that was made by turks and they eat babies you don't need that you should donate to shareblue/BLM/SPLC.and with that done- it's a Tisas 1911, they're fine. Just finished a couple hours on the range with mine.
>>64384592I'm pretty sure every 1911 owner will tell you that Tisas > NuColt. I noticed Colt went to the shitter in 2013 but some people learned that lesson even earlier.
>>64385105he's some flavor of southeastern Eurotrash, you think he actually knows?
aren't Rock Island Armory the king of the shitter 1911s?
>>64384592>googlefaggot
>>64385174Rock Island uses cast frames and slides.
>>64385305is that a real issue or Fudd FUD?
>>64385174They were until Tisas got started.
>>64385355Why pay the same price for worse parts, heat treatment, and fitment? Buy a Tisas, throw a $17 Wilson Combat spring set in it from the start, and you're golden. You may need to sand down some Ceracoat on the slide stop release as some people say it caused their slide to lock open prematurely (I've heard of that issue but not experience it myself) but that's it.I'm literally doing it to another Tisas this evening when my new spring kit arrives in the next hour or so as my $300 A1 Service was so bangin for the money I had to do it again on a slightly more upgraded model while I wait for my new trigger shoe to arrive.
>>64384592>not double stackok handlet
>>64384694What galls me is that every single time you see those characters show up they never, ever specify what is actually wrong with the Tisas pistols, they just go on unhinged tirades about Turks but cannot focus on the pistols themselves and just assume that Americans will care. I want to know about *this fucking product*, I do not give a shit about your ongoing faggy blood feud.
>>64385076post gun>>64385078kys>>64385109I prefer to kill niggers with my bare hands. She running good?>>64385174were>>64385191>talk to a search enginekys
I have regretted the purchase of every cheap gun
>>64385414Oh, I have been thinking hard about a doublestack .45. Do you have a Tac Ultra? How is it?I have been leaning towards the Girsan/EAA 2311 because I like 2011s and I don't feel like spending thousands on a meme gun. Does the Para-Ordinance style guns have any advantages over the 2011 style guns? I like the idea of a big fuck-off hand gun, but something more practical than a Mk.23 or a Deagle. I already own 1911s.>inbf turkshit.>inbf just get a Glock 21
>>64384605you didnt even know what MIM was a year ago dude and you barely know what it is now.
>dont support turkroaches!>support boomer-trap companies who have been cutting back on QC for years!
>>64385536There is little advantage in the para style if any. The magazines are its biggest issue, maybe MecGar has them figured out but people went to the 2011 for a few reasons.
>>64384592Tisas is alright and the duty is optioned well. Personally I would suggest the Raider since it looks cool.
>>64384592Yeah the Tisas Duty is a good buy because it comes out of the box with most of the upgrades you’d want in a 1911. Just make sure it’s fit together well before you transfer it into your possession like you would any 1911.
>>64385575I like the looks of the raider as well and It was actually $50 cheaper, somebody just bought the last one. It was in stock last night.
>>64385591PSA isn’t the only one selling these, perhaps your local store has them. Buying from my local store they wave fees as it’s baked into the price so it might end up the same price or cheaper as the “cheapest” online price with all the fees
>>64385532What guns have you purchased?
>>64384592Buy a glock and be done with it. Then worry about not being poor
>>64385521>I prefer to kill niggers with my bare hands.No thanks, I deal with enough shit and filth barehanded, working on farm equipment.> She running good?Never had any issues with it, a bit over 700 rounds in.
>>64385565I kinda thought so. Thanks.
>>64385174They were dethroned by tisas
>>64384592buy the cheaper WW2 spec version instead
You're all sick people.I hope you all get cancer. Fuck youse all.I put a curse upon you all.Fuck yamudda
>>64385918That one is like $330 right now, but the one in the OP pic is well worth the $170 more.
>>64385918Better irons, trigger guard undercut, beaver tail is worth 170 dollars
>>64385516Apparently there was a problem with one of the safties on some of the competition and tacticool 1911s (which was addressed and fixed unlike a certain jew owned company that sources thier components from Poojeetistan).
>>64385536>Do you have a Tac Ultra? How is it?it's been great so farjust bought it out of pure practicality cuz 16+1 .45 ACP & the parts availability in my country.roughly 1000 rounds through it and so far only 1 misfire with my limp wristed lil brono complaintswarning thoughif you have a glove size below L I'd stick with single stackbelow XL if you plan to use gloves
how much is tisa paying their shills? I really hope they're not doing it for free
>>64384592Seeing a lotta hate for Tisas in this thread but no alternatives offered. OP, if you just want a cheap 1911 to say you have one do it. My Tisas runs fine as a range toy
>>64384592I'll talk you out of it OPThat's turkshit and your money will be going to support the economy of a muslim country. Need I remind you that muslims worship a man who married a girl when she was 6 and consummated the relationship when she was 9? And you'd throw your money at those people? Fuck you if you do it OP.Buy American. Buy a Fusion Firearms 1911. Keep your money in the US. They're fantastic guns, and they come with a lifetime warranty, no bullshit. Don't support diaper snipers. Don't buy turkshit.
>>64387525Our president is literally the leader of a pedo ring.
>>64387556Truth. But our citizens aren't. Muslims, as a whole, literally worship a pedo as the most holy man to ever live and that all men should strive to be like him. US citizens have many flaws, among them is the worship of money and following authority without thought. But at least we aren't a cult that worships kiddy diddlers.Also Fusion has numerous 1911 variants that come in well under OP's 1000 dollar budget.
>>64384592>I'm a poorfagBuy a 22lr you even have 1911 that won't cycle with anything else than CCI minimag. 45 is expensive to shoot in the long run
>>64387581>TruthJust trying to sneak in some nigger speak
>>64387914
>>64385414I have one of these in 10mm. It's been very reliable. It's big, heavy, and industrial-like steel.
>>64387459within their price range there IS no real alternative. the other 500 dollar 1911s have been known to be dogshit for decades. tisas at least manages to make a minimally viable 1911 for a competitive price and thats really what most people want. the 1911 is the AK of the pistol world people want them because they're cool and iconic, they dont actually care if they're high quality as long as they dont jam every other shot.
>>64387962Thats even more embarrassing
>>64388007Post gun and skin muslim cock gobbler.
>>64387556He isn’t shit. The president is at most, the face global elites use to do things they want done. And orange man is just as beholden to his seniors in that regard. If there was anything on him we would have gotten it within the past 5-10 years. But there isn’t however he can’t incriminate the rest of the western power structure. Fucking coward. Big fake Donny would have been objectively the goat if he named so many of them.
>>64385532I've bought cheap guns that have taught me a lesson, but I've also bought cheap guns that have shown me just how overpriced half the market is. Don't let your bad luck turn you into a schmuck
I just spent the morning respringing this Tisas all the way down and threw some grips on. Mainspring tried to sabotage me during reassembly by jumping out of it's tab and the housing got stuck for a bit while I figured out a way to get it off the leaf spring that had jumped off. My fingers hurt. Good times. Tisas internals really aren't bad, especially compared to Colt right now. Just gotta change the springs out. The wood grips this came with were fine, just a little soft for my taste.
>>64387525>>64385516clockwork
Go for it, I've shot the piss out of both roach A1 clone offerings (the older $350 one with the anachronisms and the newer $450 one that got basically everything down to be authentic) and they've been a hoot.
>>64385532Can I get one of those sowthurn cuts
>>64385532>Never bought a 10/22>Never bought .22 anything for that matter>Never bought a cheapo nugget/SKS>Never bought a LEO trade-in pistol>Never bought a lovingly-worn pump from a pawn shop>Has the balls to even post hereGit out nigger, reddit might be more your speed
>>64388117Are you implying "not wanting to support pedophiles economically" isn't a valid reason to not buy a product?
one thing that is consistent in these threads is that the haters are actually incapable of A) arguing in good faithB) producing certifiable evidence that the pistols aren't worth buyingC) being even fucking coherent
>>64388157Bigly true, this Wingmaster was $180. Inexpensive does not mean bad.
>>64388163you support them ever time you use a credit card you deranged retard, get the fuck outta here with your half-assed wannabe 4chan raycisms when you can't even wrap your head around jewery. faggot.
>>64387962>overlooks kikes>has a nigsauereveryfuckingtime
>>64388163>>64387962You literally have a Ron Cohen product dude, might wanna check yourself before you wreck yourself about lecturing people on supporting pedos.
>>64388193I bought it used. Sig didn't see a penny from me.>>64388181Big assumption you made there about how I use my money.
>>64388203see>>64388219
>>64388219>bought a used nigsauerthis just keeps getting worse, what a very unserious person you are
>>64388157do you know what the word "regret" means, dumbass?
Why are you people responding to this blatant b8?
>>64388255doesn't stop the original anon from being a dipshit incapable of buying good cheap guns, speaking of post any guns you own you pedantic kike nigger
>Getting a Sig over a Kimber 1911Both aren't very great options but at least Kimber is post Cohen and can make rational decisions to improve a product.
>>64388163Yes
>>64388255You're retarded.If he did any of those things and regretted them, then he's a outsider that doesn't belong here. Alternatively, he never did any of those things to begin with and is unable to regret/enjoy them at all, meaning, again, he is an outsider who doesn't belong here.Please think before you post next time so we can have a higher quality board.
>>64388271>>64388290I am the original anon. I own the chicom SKS and the police model 10 and the Ruger products and the beat-up 22s and all that other shit which I collected in my 20sand you know what?they all fucking suck and I regret buying them. It's better to have $500 and a dream than $0 and a compromise. OP should save their money for a gun they will enjoy owning. Some day you two will become adults and you will arrive at the same conclusion.
>>64388322You're retarded and need to leave. You probably don't even have any of those. Kill yourself (but leave first).
>>64388350gonna cry?
>>64388322>Some day you two will become adults and you will arrive at the same conclusion.I'm 41 and own and enjoy an SKS, a 10/22 and other staples of American firearm ownership. You have never experienced the joy of taking your 8 year old out to shoot for the first time and seeing their face light up when they nail the empty soda can with the cheapo 1950s .22 rifle you got for $150 at the local gun shop, and it absolutely shows. You sound like a miserable teenager who thinks never finding joy in the simpler, cheaper things is the hallmarks of "maturity." I feel sad for you.
why do these threads always devolve into awful, shitty baitposting and people falling for it?
>>64384592~$50 more can get you a Ruger with better sights and top-tier CS if there's anything wrong with it (and let's be honest, there could be with how finicky 1911s are)
>>64388369somehow you've missed the point despite your years of "wisdom"If you want an SKS, and you go out and buy what you want, great. If you want a Russian SKS, and you buy a chinese piece of shit to save some money? that's a compromise which you will eventually regret. That's what this thread is about. And what's this about the 10/22 being a cheap gun? it's one of the more expensive .22 plinkers. That's fundamentally not a compromise.
>>64388157>10/22the most overrated 22 in existence. Ruger is kel-tec with better PR because the company's success was started by one genuinely good gun; ironically a cheap 22>muh cheap 22there are 22s that are worth more than your entire collection. the fact that you think all 22s are cheap shows how gun ignorant you are>LEO trade in stopped being cool before you were born son. they're all plastic 40s and 9s. https://aimsurplus.com/categories/trade-in-le-gear>le worn pumpmore worn than the first cunt you felt and yet it still has more hang ups than a call center. before it landed in the pawn shop it was stuck behind a moldy mattress for several years because the fun of shooting it wears off before the first tube of shells is empty>has the balls to even post hereon /k/ one of the most shit on and retarded boards on this site. get over yourself child.
>>64388423>>64388421Way too obvious senpai, reel it in next time
>>64388421What's wrong with Chicom SKSs? Do you actually know what you're talking about? Do you actually own guns at all?
>>64388423why are you trying to talk like an old person?
>>64384592500 USD for a Tisas is overpaying by about 200 USD. >extra money on ammo 45 is not cheap to shoot nowadays; even if you reload>is the gun reliable you cannot count a brand being reliable. the only way to determine if your gun is reliable is to shoot it500 USD is way too much for a range toy. You're better off saving up for something better as >>64385532 said or getting something less expensive. Either way 45 isn't going to be cheap to shoot. My suggestion is just go to rental range and try a 1911 there. It'll most likely save you a lot of money and heartache. 1911s fucking suck. Even Browning thought the design was lacking. He spent the remainder of his life designing better pistols.
>>64388423Blatant>teenager trying to sound old and jadedaura.
>>64388432Nope. You're just a seething coping big dumb dipshit.
>>64388455concession accepted boy
>Sudden tidal wave of intentionally awful adviceGod Sunday afternoons are the fucking worst here.OP get it if you want, the Duty has a solid reputation and honestly comes with most of the upgrades you'd want to make to a 1911 that is GI levels of basic. Two of the guys in my local IPSC matches use them and they run and perform fine.
>>64388462Call me what you will, I actually own guns and am about to shoot them instead of being a noguns shitposter on a Sunday <3
>>64388440mine can't get through 5 rounds without a double-feed and is generally just shoddy in construction and finish. The stock cracks and dents easily and the trigger is inconsistent. The OG sling it came with is awful and it doesn't agree with half of the stripper clips I bought for it.
The WW2 GI Tisas seems like a fun range toy, but as an American I wouldn't be caught dead carrying a non US made 1911.
>>64388484Weird, polar opposite of all four of mine that I've owned over the decades. Can you post pics of your mag follower/spring. What factory/year of production?> the trigger is inconsistentThat's just the nature of the beast until you do some stoning and filing of the sear, about the only one I've seen that didn't massively benefit from that was, oddly, a Romanian.>it doesn't agree with half of the stripper clips I bought for it.Can you elaborate? What do you mean by "not agree"?
>>64388484Albanian chink SKS?
>>64388481You also smoke crack and suck dick. The only people who give a fuck about your guns are your fellow crackheads who are planning to rob you. You're entire collection is going end up right back at the pawnshop you got them all from in the first place.
>>64388500he doesn't actually own one and you'll get nothing but more vague complaints with zero pics.
>>64388510If he's getting Albanians mixed up with Chicoms he needs an optometrist.
>>64388471>solid reputation it doesn't >two guys local IPSCpeople also shoot hi-points your local IPSC. the difference is that hi-points cost a used condom and Tisas Trannies like you think other people should suck dick, take HRT, and give pedophile worshippers their hard earned cash for pot metal.
>>64388484>rounds without a double-feedif true then swap your mag spring idiot, this is gun maintenance 101>The stock cracks and dents easily what the fuck are you doing to your gun?>he OG sling it came with is awful no shit dipshit, it's a chicom sling, but it works when you ever actually need to use it in the first place (you don't)>it doesn't agree with half of the stripper clipsyou got bad clips, not the gun's fault
>>64388525>>64388511>>64388462The bot is melting down.
>>64388522No, I mean Albania was known to have a lot of Chinese SKSes in poor condition that they offloaded onto US markets. They are in a much worse state than most Chinese SKSes from other nations.
>>64388531imagine writing all this bullshit thinking someone is going to take your gunsmithing advice after all your simping for turkshit
>>64388543what are you talking about retard, I haven't shilled for any roach bullshit I just see your blatant dumbassery about SKSs and have to push your shit in for it.
>>64388539the crack is calling your name tranny. try waving your turkshit around. it'll get you a discount. I promise
>>64388541Maybe, I got one of those from Atlantic back in the day and while definitely worn it's been the usual whore the rifle is known to be. If he'd post pics that'd be a big help in diagnosing the issue.
>>64388547imagine being on anonymous internet board and still lacking the courage to admit you shill for pedo worshipping gun companies
>>64388553You're not getting any pics, because he's a bored child spewing shit on 4chan in between his incel tirades on /pol/.
>>64388500>What factory/year of production?doesn't say. The only other identification on the rifle is its serial number, 000XXX. There is no factory stamp. >>64388512you're a dumbfuck kid who thinks owning guns is special. They're more common than PS5s. Everyone owns guns in this country and absolutely nobody feels the need to lie about owning a piece of shit chinese rifle in 2025.
>>64388553You can't diagnose anything because you're a fucking moron. If you could get paid to work on guns you wouldn't be on /k/. The good advice you can give is to your fellow trannies on how much of the barrel to shove up their ass to reach their prostate.
>>64388563>The good advice you can give is to your fellow trannies on how much of the barrel to shove up their ass to reach their prostate
>>64387525If you pay taxes in America you’re already funding terrorism. Who gives a fuck.
>>64388561>someone posts actual guns and the shitposters scatter like rats
>>64388563You doing okay, partner?
>>64388561Have you taken it apart? There should be proof marks on the trunnion or, at least, the barrel shank.
>>64388652the closest thing to a proof mark is in the picture
>>64388659Then you may have a early Sino-Soviet "ghost rifle", which would actually be, ironically, more Russian than Chinese.>>64388563This is a very strange post, I hope you get to feeling better.
why the fuck are people so deranged and angry in this thread?
>>64387112>if you have a glove size below L I'd stick with single stack>below XL if you plan to use gloveskek the average adult philippine male stands 5 foot 5 and they chose the tac ultra 45 for the official flip service pistol
>>64388684it's Sunday afternoon during a holiday weekend, the winners of life are not going to be here
>>64385565> The magazines are its biggest issueWhat are the problems specifically
>>64385536>Does the Para-Ordinance style guns have any advantages over the 2011 style guns?the only advantage they ever had was that para's patents expired before STI/staccato's
>>64385521>>64385076 (You) #post gun
>>64388563please keep your autogynophilia to yourself champ
I can't speak on cheaper 1911s but 1911s in general are great to shoot. Love my Colt and my Walther built Colt 1911 22. Mags make all the difference, not sure what is out today but I got these Chip McCormick power mags almost 20 years ago and they have ran great for me.
>>64388703>holiday weekendcolumbus day isn't a real holiday.
>>64388739Commander hammers should be mandatory on ALL 1911s.Spur and skeleton a shit. a shit.
>>64387962You're trimming your toenails too short, dude.
>>64388467>concession acceptedThat's like the Indian national anthem at this point, way to out yourself
>>64384592From experience: if your gun is fine, it's fine. If it's not, you're sending it back because something will be integrally broken with it that can't be fixed.Look, I'm not going to say that it's really that bad an option. There's way worse things that you can buy.I just don't like the Turks.
>>64388852why are you zooming his photo looking for something to complain about?
>>64388684Getting mogged by a cheapo roach 1911 is just too much for some people to handle.
>>64388885Just an observation. But you really are trimming your nails too short.
>>64388718Unreliable, the FBI tried to adopt a Para Ordinance built by Les Baer and they couldn’t get the magazines to reliably feed JHPs. They would cancel the contract for 250 pistols with only 72 delivered.
>>64388074Are Tisas factory springs that bad? I got a GI and I assumed it was all GI spec.
>>64388684There is ethnic/racial hatred for Turks that dominates most 1911 budget discussion, the third world fiction of the internet
>>64388919Springs require a lot of QC, so there might be a lot of variation. IIRC Nighthawk custom rejects 1/3 of the springs they receive for not being correct weight
>>64387112I've seen the tac ultra before and yes double stack 1911 in 45 would be pretty cool, I don't have the biggest hands. I've never held one though maybe it isn't as big a deal as I'm thinking.
>>64387230what copium are you smoking boomer? All the tacticool larperators on jewtube are shilling name brand gear, not turkshit. Does tisas even have a marketing budget?
>>64387525what the fuck does any of that have to do with me? How does this affect the firearm? Made In USA™ has been a meme for at least 20 years now boomer, smell the fucking coffee.
>>64385602Online prices are consistently $150-200 cheaper if not more than that at my local gun stores, so I never buy from them. Shipping is usually <$50 or even free, and a transfer is only $30 after all.
>>64388830Spur does look the best.
>>64387525>Keep your money in the USAlmost nothing "made in the US" is actually made here, it's just assembled here from imported parts. We have almost no consumer industry left in the entire country, very few things are actually made here, even the jet engines I work on daily are filled with imported parts. When I learned this I stopped being a MUH MURRIKAN MADE retard like you.
>>64388163if you pay taxes you're supporting pedophiles dipshit, we talk about guns here
>>64388170I went to sleep last night just about all the replies seemed genuine. I just now hopped back on and all the politshit talking points have flooded in. It's like their shift just started.
>>64389014some irrelevant foreign shithole probably hit peak posting hours and now we're having to suffer their bullshit
>>64388808In this house columbus is a hero, end of story
>>64388703I work in healthcare, I never get the holidays off.
>>64388690and any white woman can overpower any jeet, what's your point ranjeesh?
>I'm a poorfagYou're poor, like most Americans, because your once great Republic was sold out and became an Empire. You think you are saving money buying imported slop, but in the long run, the jobs and wealth and work leaves your country. And then soon, you will have no choice to but to buy these shitty slop imports. It's the same thing that happens with Walmart and Dollar General in small towns in Appalachia, and that happened with Amazon.Imported firearms MUST be subject to a 300% tax, the revenue from which is used to subsidize American firearms manufacturing.
>>64389490>>64388170
>>64388543Okay but everything he said was true. Feeding issues are almost invariably mag related, and swapping out springs in surplus guns isn't just common, it's basically what you're supposed to do. There's also zero reason to blame the gun for not getting on with some stripper clips, that's 100% on those clips being shit. There is no mechanical explanation for any other explanation. Basically, anon's SKS will likely be fixed with about $30 in parts and 10 minutes of swapping them out. Can't comment on the stock, that's on him for tossing it into the bed of his truck or whatever.
>>64389528you are replying to a bot
Be me, poorfag, married to no guns ever beauty. High maintenance, no privacy. Go to gun show, buy cheap 1911 lower receiver for 75$. Start collecting parts, nickel and dime file fit and follow drawings. Collect more parts, slide, test fire, jams. Polish feed ramp, fit new barrel bushing get good spring. Work on accuracy, adjust sights, reliability improves. Figger out what works, adjust lips on magazine, get good lubrication. Keep long time, get ogled at range, good times.
>>64388974>what the fuck does any of that have to do with me? How does this affect the firearm?If you're spending your money on Turkish goods, you're empowering diaper snipers. As for how this affects the firearm, it doesn't. It may well be a very good firearm for the price. But because it's made by pedos I'd never buy it. Just like I won't buy IMI ammo, or any other jew product if I can avoid it. Among many other things that steer where and how I spend my money within the options available to me.>>64388974>Made In USA™ has been a meme for at least 20 years now boomer, smell the fucking coffee.>>64389007>Almost nothing "made in the US" is actually made here,I am aware of how difficult it is to find anything made in the USA (up to and including a simple USA flag). But just because it's difficult doesn't mean you shouldn't do it when circumstances allow. Fusion Firearms is a US company based in Florida employing US citizens making the most iconic US handgun. Said handguns are damn nice at the pricepoint. This is actually a prime opportunity given OP's requirements and adds no kind of obstacle. Is a Fusion more expensive than the Tisas? Sure. But it's also a higher quality gun that comes with a no bullshit lifetime warranty, and it's US made under a grand.
>>64384592FYI a "poor fag" has more like a 200$ max. If you got $500 to spare get something with a name of quality
>>64388918This reminds that norinco made their own double stack 1911 but I don’t know how it would compare to a para ordnance or 2011 also on a sorta related note to this this thread I remember reading an old Tfb article that said that Tisas bought or was given 1911 manufacturing equipment by norinco some time in the 2000’s
>>64385532all my turkish guns have been shit and killed themselves around 2000-3000 roundsI’ll never get another one no matter who owns the company, I just don’t believe they can make something that won’t shit the bed or have horrible design choices surprised so many people are willing to get them lol
>>64389490>the jobs and wealth and work leaves your countryShould someone tell him?
>>64389885many people will buy a gun for $300 and then shoot <500 rounds through it over the course of several decades before losing interest in firearms. These products are for people who aren't really into guns in the same way that Kobalt makes tools for people who aren't really into DIY.
>>64389892truenever really thought about it like that
>>64389685>As for how this affects the firearm, it doesn'tstopped reading there
>>64389885Well what guns where they shotguns or handguns
>>64389885>all my turkish guns have been shit and killed themselves around 2000-3000 roundsWhat guns?
>>64389685> I am aware of how difficult it is to find anything made in the USA (up to and including a simple USA flag). But just because it's difficult doesn't mean you shouldn't do it when circumstances allow. Fusion Firearms is a US company based in Florida employing US citizens making the most iconic US handgun. Said handguns are damn nice at the pricepoint. This is actually a prime opportunity given OP's requirements and adds no kind of obstacle. Is a Fusion more expensive than the Tisas? Sure. But it's also a higher quality gun that comes with a no bullshit lifetime warranty, and it's US made under a grand.Since when did boomers from the high road started using /k/ let alone 4chan
>>64389685>But just because it's difficult doesn't mean you shouldn't do it when circumstances allow.Look, I'm not going to pay more for lower quality goods, I don't give a fuck if it was assembled by "Americans" (immigrant labor the company is paying less than a true american would make). I'm sick of these boomer run US companies preying on people like you with their hoorah flag waving bullcrap while they shit in their hands and hand it to you for a higher price. I'm not some fan of roachland or mudslimes, but I'm not spending $800+ on something like a modern colt or remington or some other thing like that when $350 buys a gun of equivalent or better quality, I don't throw my money away just because there's a flag on the box filled with foreign MIM parts. Personally I don't know this Fusion company you're currently dickriding, I'd have to look into it, I'm just making a point here. I do not have a Tisas 1911, I don't have a 1911 at all but I'm interested in these lower end pistols to see how much I like the 1911 platform and I've handled them at shows and used one at a range and I was impressed for a $350 gun. If I like 1911s as much as I liked USPs for example I'll probably buy a bunch of different variants like I did with the former, but I'm not going to buy "American" just because it's "American" unless it has a genuine benefit.
>>64389860That’s para style
>>64389685Fusion works closely with Turks since they import Turk shit shotguns, their Glock/2011 clone is made in Turkey, and also they import LPA sights for most guns.Fusion Firearms was started by the former CEO of Dan Wesson after they got bought by CZ
>>64388179Based. I bought this Stoeger for $150 and like it better than my G26.
>>64385355It's not an "issue" as long as the heat treating is done well, but you are paying the same amount as a Tisas for an inherently cheaper product.
>>64384694i recognize these words as english, but im having trouble deciphering
>>64384592Anon its mike this…..the 1911 is a gun with history behind it. Thats what makes this gun great in 2025. If you want a 1911 but dont want the rich American history that comes with it…then you dont really want a 1911. Also, guns are one of the few things you really shouldnt cheap out on. If you cant afford a quality 1911 then you cant afford a 1911. Lastly….you will be with a group if guys who will be talking about their 1911s and you will well up with pride because you have one too. But then the first guy talks about his Colt, and the second guy about his Springfield, the next about his Kimber, then they will ask what you have, and in shame you will say “Tisas”. Work a little harder, save a little more and get a propped 1911.
>>64384592The same people who tell you not to get these are the same people who think the SAR 9 is a bad gun because it's made in turkey when it probably the best 9mm you can buy for $200
>>64390406> it probably the best 9mm you can buy for $200Anon………..
>>64384592OP, it's a good opportunity to buy a foreign state subsidized 1911. The Turkish government might not always feel like propping up their small arms export market so you might as well take advantage of the savings while they do. Everyone seething about Turks are the same people that would have talked you out of buying Soviet surplus or preban Norinco. I'm not implying that this is going to be a post-ban gem in the future, just that it's a solid cheap option because it is subsided by a foreign government.
>>64389912>>64389917>no response
>>64390398This is either bait or one of the most cringe things posted here all month
>>64390413Yes?
>>64390398jesus fucking christ dude, take a step back and read this to yourself out loud.
>>64390502it's definitely going in my /k/ringe folder
Mine does well, replaced trigger and springs
>turkshit isn't real only the shotguns are shit>ok the plastic frame handguns are shit too but the metal frame ones are good>ok well girsan is shit too but I swear these particular clones of guns I can't normally afford are g2gis there a single thing you can think of that says "made in turkey" that's a quality product? just ask yourself what is more likely: there's a fairy roachmother that waves her magic wand over the tisas and mke factories and nowhere else that lets them make non-shit guns, or you fell for the justasgud cope marketing?
>>64391001Oh hey it's the Pinoy retard that swore the frontsights were brazed. How you doing, buddy?
>>64390398Tisas fans can hold their heads up higher than NuColt fans. LOL
>>64390398>you will be with a group if guys who will be talking about their 1911s and you will well up with pride because you have one too. But then the first guy talks about his Colt, and the second guy about his Springfield, the next about his Kimber, then they will ask what you have, and in shame you will say “Tisas”I think I got cancer reading this, fucking off yourself dude.
>>64388561post the rest of the rifle you dumb nigger
>>64384592Just get the dagger dude
>>64391969Disgusting.
>>64390398hi you seem to be newer but you really should stop using ellipses. everyone can tell you're a 50yr old genx stereotype
I swear to fucking god you can NEVER get a concrete reason why you shouldn't buy these things that's actually based on product quality, it's always schizoid bullshit and thirdie kvetching
>>64392146these actions make no sense because you aren't some terminally online shut-in and just want to own and shoot a fucking gun, not impotently seethe about geopolitical bogeymen
>>643903987/10. Had me the first half, ngl.
