AK General /akg/PSL Season Edition>Thread #2080Old thread here >>64335928
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Just placed an order for the M70. What am I in for?
ngl the AK is a novelty rifle at this point.it's over.
Anyone reload? If yes, how is norma brass?
>>64394638yeah
>>64394581Good thickness.
>>64394614This but unironically
>>64394614I'll say it yet again, it was over before you were born. Nobody cares.Post AKs nigger
I should buy more AK's. I should also update this pic.
>>64394614>IT'S OOOVVVEEEERRR IT'S OVER GUYS PLEASEPLEASE PLEASE JUST STOP No :)You lost
>>64394685If only you knew how good you have it.
>>64394661hell yeah
>>64394753>>64394945one to your cat. one to your dog. one to your grandma. one to your great great great grandma, one for your senior sergeant.
>>64394571Post milled guns please.
>>64395382
>>64394614Do you ever feel like it wouldn't be this way if the US market for AKs wasn't so utterly cucked?
>>64395603yeah
>>64394614$275 when I bought mine. I'[ll kick any sub $800 AR with it right in the ass too. Fuck you, AK fine. You just born wrong.
>>64395578
>>64394614with ammo being sky high, yeah, it's ogre
>>64395603>Do you ever feel like things wouldn't be bad if they were goodidk anon, you tell me
anyone makes frts for aks that are as durable as regular triggers?
>>64399188Do any FRTs actually include a trigger group? All the AK FRTs I've seen basically look like this.
>>64399188>>64399349Are any of them reliable and three position? When I looked into it a while ago all the ones I could find were just safe/forced reset only
Just picked this thing up at a pawn shop (mak-90) how’d I do?First AK but first gun I ever bought was a yugo sks and my norinco sks is one of my favorite riflesWhat would you do with this thing build-wise?
>>64399349The MARS AK FRT does
>>64399498MAK-90! MAK-90! MAK-90!AK-90The MAK-90 is a fine chunk of steel and will serve you well. How much? Can we see the folding stock?
>>64394685You can buy a comblock AK from cheaper now adjusted for inflation you retard
>>64394939>>64399536>using a model that doesn't use CPIshygddt
>>64399529$950She is pretty rusty, what do?
>>64399568
>>64399573
>>64399568Buy the finest grade steel wool you can find, put lots of gun oil or all purpose oil on it, rub gently and lovingly on the rusty parts or the patina if you don't like the patina
>>64399598This, but use fine bronze wool, not steel.
>>64399498How much?I'm gonna guess $900
This is an original 1981 Russian AK74 receiver. Is it normal for the trunnion to be canted like this?
seeing bakes back in at mokas is nice
>>64394638No I just throw away the gun and buy a new one when the magazine is empty
Bought a case of 7.62 yesterday from a guy that sold his aks and didn't have a need for it. He had three cases and I happened to get the last one for $330 which was a deal I couldn't pass up.
>>64394614Yeah, if you aren't at 120K+ with 0 dependents its basically over for you
>>64400737>Field grade at Museum grade prices
>>64402674i buy 1 bakelite everytime they come back into stock somewhere. I don't pay over 100 dollars, that's my cap. It's a habit. Silly billys will pay outrageous prices all day; i'm just investing
>>64399498>>64399573>3rd pinNIGGA DELETE THIS SHIT AND NEVER TELL ANYBODY ABOUT IT
>>64401390Nice. I have a couple cases of golden tiger I bought pre COVID, but never got a gun to shoot it from. Working on that ATM.
>>64399573It was a honour sir.
>>64394685t. doesn’t understand inflation
>>64403057If it was inflation alone, then there'd be Type 56S-2 rifles readily available from the manufacturer for ~$1k.
>>64403042>honourOi mate, you got a loicense for that post?
>>64402221Where can I get a dummy F1?
>>64403164>google
>>64403207So you don't know either, got it.
>>64403329Well I don't want one so I don't give a fuck, nigger.Go find your own shit, crybaby ass faggot.>found multiple with a brief 30 sec search you're too lazy to doLotta plastic ones though.
>>64403164Pretty sure I got mine from Bowman. That was several years ago though.
>>64399563You got a different value because you used a different starting value, you fucking retard.
>>64403864I'd like an RDG-5
>>64403871They are all different, that was the point.>the 2 others used the 2 cheaper ones so I did the most expensiveI am retarded though, sorry.
>>64403130No
>>64405244>When you want more muzzle energy from your handgun than you do your rifle
It's always PSL season over here.
PSL also means something else.
>>64406146Penis Small Ligma
MAK 90!!!!
Do I get a Wbp mini jack or Draco?
>>64407006Draco
>>64407218Why? I was leaning towards the wbp because it looks like it's already set up to take the optics thing
>>64407006>Will Break Prematurely commercial slop>Certified hood classic Romanian blasterTrick question. Get an M92
>>64395578>>64398330>>64401007thank you for posting milled guns, I really like them
>>64407228I suggested the draco b/c it has a pretty solid track record, it's ~100$ cheaper iirc, and the 10"-12" 7.62 AKs work pretty well with a red dot and an ultimakThat said, the wbp is fine, especially if you want to go sidemount
>>64407396I don't like the way zastavas look. I really want to stay as close to an akm as possible Besides maybe mounting a red dot. I am a little worried about the wbps track record but it seems like the Draco aren't without their issues either.>>64407436Would mounting optics be much more complicated with the Draco? I really don't like tinkering with guns in the first place, and aks look complicated in that regard. I've heard the dustcover mounts are shit.
I just fucking love Zastava.I will simp for Zastava.
>>64407610That's nice. How's bout posting Zastavas?
>>64407006I got a draco and i wish i got a mini jack or zastava instead, very poor quality qc and awful trigger
>>64407610i fucking lo-READ OWNERS MANUAL B E F O R E U S E
>>64394571Zastava PAP G Has anyone has this thing? It's the only civvie allowed AK available to buy in my country. Apparently the barrel is cold hammer forged but I'm not sure it's chromed, otherwise looks alright if you don't mind the tacticool appearance.
AoA finally shipped my KBK build, I opted for full hot blue so I'm looking forward to that.
>>64408247>if you don't mind the tacticool appearanceSome people here stateside would love to get their hands on those handguards and stock.
>>64408444Handguards aren't bad if you remove the shitcatini rails from them and the stock could be fixed by chopping it off and welding a triangular one to the hinge. The normal ones are still better looking though
>>64408528Why didn't you just say you were a mouth breathing retard to begin with?
>>64408411Nice. Do the AoA builds come with all the GL stuff for the KBK builds?
>>64408247>Zastavathey make good rifles. don't worry about it. just slap some cheap rail covers on and go have fun
>>64407497UltimakRed dotDone
fellas I need your advice, Im trying to decide between a zastava rm72 or a century AES 10B, im planning to install an mars super safety in it.
>>64409514Since we don't know when Serbia is going to allow arms exports again, I'd go for the Zastava M72 and get surplus furniture for it.>>64408247>Apparently the barrel is cold hammer forged but I'm not sure it's chromedIt is in the US, but I don't know about Europe.
>>64409417That looks doable >>64408022Have you used a wbp to compare it to? Any experience with the customer service for the Draco?
>>64409558>Serbia is going to allow arms exports again, I'd go for the Zastava M72 and get surplus furniture foris the m72 mechanically better then then the AES 10B
>>64407875Very nice. I have a parts kit for one but I haven't done the build.>>64408107The new ones put it on the bottom
Note: not a gunI 3d printed this for a cosplay what are some details I can add-Black paint for the handguard holes and divider line-Black paint for the stock tangs-sling and sling mounts-Another coat of paint on the mag to make it more orange-Maybe a side rail and an optic (it doesnt have one)
>>64408952Yes they do
>>64394571Can my Daewoo play here?
>>64411875hell yeah brother, i want one of these things so fucking bad, the k2 or slightly modernized one looks sick too, how do you like yours?
>>64411889I like it, it was too good to pass up at 1200 bucks, I was going to wait for an SNT, but didn't want to let it go. I will say, although I generally like 55gr 5.56, I wish I had a 1:7 twist barrel and a flash hider that wasn't welded on. I'm hoping that SNT makes good on their promise and new parts will be available soon because I do want to replace the barrel.
>>64408411nice. Im constantly considering ordering KBK build but never do. I hope i dont regret ever getting one.
>>64403164There are cold war and ww2 era F1 trainers that exist and in varying conditions. I got those off files. They pop up from time to time. You can also sometimes find them on fuddbroker. >>64403889Same
>>64409111Looks like the first batch of 101-pattern guns from Meridian. Are these using forged parts?
We're so backhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOGt8ISBI9k
AKS-74
>>64416072Polish steelie?
>>64394571I thought PSL meant "Pussy salaciously licked"
whatsup faggot nigger retard faggotswhats the best way to mount an infrared laser to a traditional akm like my wasr 1063im thinking probably a gas tube mount dealiowill dump some random bullshit now
that time I almost froze to death after flipping my canoe in a swamp and got stuck in the mudit was like 30 degrees in the air and the water was well below freezing temperature
that time i explored a cement factory
that time i got irradiated
that time we found a meth head fortress in the woodsthis building is actually gone now and cowboy and chum likely deceased if I had to guess
5g towers and shit should be safer than radiation im pretty sureI need nods. when i move im gonna plan another stalker outing but I need nods and an infrared laser
>>64418745Probably still better made than whatever garbage Colt was vomiting out in the early 2000s.
>>64418597Duct tape and superglue
>>64418597Go beyond full Bubba with your uncles old bozzbox arc welder and permanently attach a section of wish.com-spec steel pic rail between the gas block and the front sight post.
>>64418690Based, stalker got more?
>>64419026much morebut I don't want to dump too much of my own stuff, since I made threads for those long agowhen I move there will be much more to explore. where i live now isnt the same kind of abandoned haven it once was and most of these buildings are long gone now
>>64405982Hey, it's work closet arsenal bro! How's it hangin?
>>64394939Dumb shit example. A century Arms WASR is inferior to the $310 chinese underfolder in the 1987 ad >>64394685 posted.
>>64421092Correct. Today a type 56 underfolder would be somewhere between 2-3x its inflation adjusted value if you used that magazine ad as a baseline. They're $2,000+ guns.
this 556 Beryl AK wont accept these 10 round AC Unity mags.Comparing it to the mag that fit, the locking latch is not in the same place.Its metal that is molded into the plastic mag.What can be done to make it fit? There is little overlap, grinding it down probably wont work.
>>64420415Not bad. Representing /k/ out in the tractor while harvesting corn.
>>64422596I got it to fit after grinding 80% of it off
bump
>tfw Mariners lost>Game 7 ALCS>to Canadians of all peopleSuffering.
Bros, I have the chance to get a ~10" hexagon lower handguard with one of the add on pic slots for like $100I don't think it's a scamI already have a B10M on my rifle rnTalk me out of it
>>64425120Really must suck living in WA.
>>64418693>All of this [genocide] just works!
>>64426070Looks pretty gay to me, but I feel that way about pretty much all extended hand guards on aks. Does it do something interesting that I may not be aware of?
https://armsofamerica.com/romanian-ak-9mm-cz-scorpion-evo-model/Anyone know anything about these? Would actually be the first PCC I have ever considered since it doesn't take fucking glock mags.
>>64426070They look retarded
>>64418659I always find it remarkable in times when people are in near death situations they feel compelled to take a photo.
>>64422689>Beretta>logitechSupremely based.
>>64426612For many, it's like a substitute for a "for my family" letter. Something to leave behind, to document what happened to them if they don't make it.
>>64426317It really does.>>64426584Nova Modul out of Cugir, Romania.
>>64426584https://novamodul.com/products/nak9s-europe-nak9se-semi-automatic-pistol-cal-9x19/
>>64427311This is great and all, but I was looking for testimonials from people who own them or know someone who does.
Can you replace the mag-catch without any tools?Does anyone know how long Century's warranty lasts?
>>64428550No. 1 year iirc
>>64428884what tools do you need?
>>64428911A pair of pliers like that to hold tension on the spring while installing the pin and a swage tool to flare the new pin. >Alternatively M&M Industries make a catch that's held in with an Eclip, and only requires a drill and punch (to remove the old retaining pin)I wouldn't trust my AK with one, but it is an option.
Picked up my first ak today (zatsava mp10). I need extra mags and I've always liked the way the Bakelite mags looked. Does anyone know if these are reliable? https://gunmagwarehouse.com/bulgarian-ak-47-7-62x39mm-30-round-reinforced-steel-lug-polymer-magazine.html
>>64394685First rifle I ever bought was a WASR for 319 came with 2 mags and a knife plus some shit show cleaning kit, and bag
>>64401007I hate myself for not buying one of these back when they were no more than 3000
>>64405982These were 425 - 475 when I was in HS and I didn't buy one : (
>>64394614you just convinced me to stack another can thanks i found an alright deal.
>>64428946I always picture a pterodactyl when looking at a map of the Great Lakes.
>>64428941If I can be cruel, I paid no more than 5k for the 3 of them combined.
>>64429167
>>64429176yep
>>64401390you lucky fuck, cheapest I could get was $500 for a case
>>64429526*after shipping and tax
>>64394571Lol, lmao even
>>64430704Oh boy, more junk. And just in time, even more PoorShitArsenal trash too.
If the PSA krinks were like 500 or 600 dollars I could see it, but you're literally paying the same for some american made trash as for a zastava m92 or 85
>>64430704what's isd bulgaria?
Ok niggers i finally got my WBP Minijack. Time to see if all the shitposting of the past few weeks (?) holds a semblance of truth. All i can tell is that it's dead straight and concentric, even my Izzys 103 / 104 can't say the same. As for the rest rounds down the pipe will be the judge.
>>64427694Sure. I don't own one. But they are being sold here. From what i heard they don't scream quality and can be hit or miss concentricity wise if you intend to use a can but other than that i never EVER hear horror stories about them. Apparently the PCC from Nova are fucking tanks and i heard some shit about absurd round count and still going. I intend to get one next year anyway if you can wait for a proper testimony.
>>64426070At this price that shit will be airsoft. 2000%. And you can argue all you want but the truth is you won't be able to tell either way and it won't matter because some airsoft accessories nowadays are pretty much on par with your average fucking russian aluminium to begin with.
>>64430979So they are low quality, but they keep on running?
>>64430911At least you get a warranty with it, but yeah.
>>64430930They're a commerical manufacturer. They're the Bulgarian version of Nova Modul in Romania, or Pioneer in Poland.ISD Bulgaria != ((10))
>>64430967post an update on hwo it shoots
My China OKP7 will be here soon, will post pics and test it with the Zastava UF.
>>64431689You Get a decent warranty with the Zastavas.
new gundo i get the putnik or wolverine to suppress it with?
>>64432191Putnik looks good on shorties
>>64414780I asked as an IG comment and they said "yup". I also asked about chrome lined barrels and they said "yup"Some people on AKfiles are hypothesizing that Meridian is working with whoever was supplying KUSA with true forged core components. >>64409514>mars super safetyAvoid. I would try to fit this kit:https://deeznutztactical.com/product/ak-super-safety/I got one to work in my MAK-90 which supposedly has a 1.5mm thick receiver. >M72 or AES10BBoth are cool. I would personally go with an AES10B first, but having both is cool. >>64432191Neither both cans are trash. New Zastavas are pretty good with concentric square threads. I would just run a real suppressor.
I counted and have about 1,200 in extra spending moneh, are these surplus M70s good? Also what'd be the method for getting them into communist territory?
Nevermind, I can't order it to California
>>64432385:(
>>64432400I finally save enough fucking money to get myself Gods gift to this earth (a Zastava) and I just get bitch slapped like thatHe can't keep getting away with this
>>64432411if you don't vote in your local election you can't complain.
best sighting tool for zeroing the rifle without going to a range? I KNOW i know... I know. Just tell me..
>>64432228NTA but why avoid on the mars super safety?
>>64432466ignore the tripfag man he is retarded
>>64432411>The people’s republic of Californialol lmfao
>>64432446Muh dick
>>64432446I'd say bore sighting but I don't know how possible that is with an AK as it is with a bolt gun. One of those laser bullet things maybe?>>64432549https://youtu.be/XvosueXrc9k?si=1XvEsrDNFNPHrXMf&t=8
>>64432411Why don't you save enough money to move to a state that doesn't impede your God-given rights?
>>64432466>>64432512My buddy and I tried to get one working, and it had several issues. First of all the wire rod trip "bar" is susceptible to bending, since it is a wire rod as opposed to a real bar. Once it bends out of spec, the system malfunctions consistently. Also the reset was genuinely painful and problematic when it did work. Compared to the other kits that are out there, I find the MARS to be terrible. The newer mars looks a little better.
>>64432630He’s a tripfag, he has terminal faggotry. Many such cases.
What ever happened to the paki tape trend? Did it go the way of izolenta?
>>64432289>help me break my state laws while openly admitting those are my intentionsKill yourself you faggot trip nigger retard
>>64432228Nice. Kinda expensive but I am going to buy one when they restock. Leaning towards the 101 or do you think its safer getting the 103?
>>64428946Bitcoin was pennies when I first became aware of it's existence. We all have regrets.I feel like the psl scope alone nowadays would fetch a good chunk of that 425-475. I bought a bunch of them back when they were plentiful to put on other guns.
Realistically what's a sub-500 round wasr with minor sight cant and surplus dong worth on the secondhand market? I've got one just sitting that I don't really want to feed anymore
Retarded question, does anyone have a recommended maintenance schedule for an AK firing exclusively non-corrosive ammo?
>>64434546sometimes i look down the barrel for rust. Das bout it
>>64431618Not necessarily low quality. Just crude. Yeah they keep on running afaik.
>>64431870So far so good. Didn't manage to shoot more than 100 rounds yesterday but nothing negative to say whatsoever so far. Stock trigger feels decent, stock furniture feels decent, no rattle, the stock index safety is a welcome addition, the stock extended mag release is a welcome addition, outside of maybe feeling a bit overgas (thanks to the traditional baffle can i use) it felt good.
>>64434546No. And you don't really need one for non corrosive. You got so much tolerance and so much space in these fucking rifles it would take a biblical amount of dirt (induced by shooting, not by dragging it inside a swamp and sticking chicken in it like a retard) to actually make it choke. If you really feel like it, taking a look and a dirty oily rag would do the trick a couple of thousand rounds in.
>>64432446Laser boresight. But it's only to get it close enough to your POA/POI on paper. There's no substition to range, negro.
>>64432191Get a rod before a suppressor and make sure it's straight first.
Do ultimak rails kill optics or only shitty optics? I want to mount something on an M92 that can co-witness with the irons.
>>64434618which one?
>>64434652It's a fuddmyth.
>>64434607>>64434550Thanks bros
>>64430930>>64431814They are the same company who makes the Bulg slab mags.
>>64435105those are great mags
why won't cigur make a shorter psl ? They already making 20 round mags
>>64435695>cigur
what the hell is this sight over bore height, why
>>64435994Chad over bore.
>>64435994>>64436342When I aim, I don't bow down to nobody I lift my chin high and squint
>>64435994>>64436342>>64436634
>>64433901For the Meridian guns? 7.62x39 bolt and trunnion geometry is way more established. I DM'd meridian and they said their 5.56 guns are using true 100 spec dimensional specs on the bolts and trunnions. The safest bet is to not buy shit until more info comes out, but I know personally I'm way more interested in the 5.56 guns than the 7.62x39 guns.
>>64394571I found this amusing.>women, eh>never pleased
>>64437518Value wise he brought her something that could buy hundreds of pumkin spice lattes. Ungrateful!
this looks like shid lmao
The AK's are my only friends.
>>64394571Woman be like
>>64433997Yeah. I'm going to wait. Good to hear they are using correct specs tho.
How the hell do these have a barrel but not the carrier?https://gunpartskit.com/product/polish-wz-88-tantal-parts-kit-ak-74/
>>64442627Posted the wrong kit like a dumbass.https://akaarmament.com/products/untitled-may29_20-54
>>64435685
how much work do I need to put in if I need to change a center support rivet?
>>64443320What did you do to the rifle that you think the center support rivet needs replacing?>It's gonna take as much work as required to change it.
>>64443320>how much workA lot. So much so that unless you must do it, I'd recommend doing something different.
Broshttps://meridiandefensecorp.com/ak-101/
>>64445375I'm glad the no chrome lining rumor was false.
This turned out to be fun as shit
>>64445902PSA krink barrels are concentric, how about that.
>>64446270I've been repeatedly surprised by this little piece of shit.
>>64394571Wbp or zastava for my one and only ak?Leaning wbp
>>64445902is that an actual surplus handguard set?
>>64432289If you have family in a good state, put 2 of their utility bills in your name for a month or two then take those to the DMV and get a license with their address on it, and order the gun to their address. Of course you ABSOLUTELY MUST leave the firearm at their house in their state to remain legal
>>64432228>AKfiles are hypothesizing that Meridian is working with whoever was supplying KUSA with true forged core componentsWhy is this shit so secretive? If it were to come out that meridian uses the same suppliers as KUSA would that be a negative or positive outcome? I know nothing about manufacturing but I would bet it would be PSA since they large enough to be a parts supplier?
>>64446479wasr
>>64432228>>64446679>Some people on AKfiles are hypothesizing that Meridian is working with whoever was supplying KUSA with true forged core components.thats me and im completely full of shit.
>>64446679>>64446874No it's me and I'm completely trustworthy
>>64409111What is Klay like?
>>64446697With optic mount wedge on receiver, perhaps
>>64445375I will probably get one next year
>>64403164IIRC Apex had some Bulgarian trainers with red paint that were pretty decent like one or one and a half years ago. Decent fuse, spoon, etc. in unfinished (sandblasted?) silver looking a lot like the one marked 2/69 in anon's pic. Maybe like $20. Dummy grenades are one of those things that are a bitch because they're not always in stock, you never know what is going to be in stock and from what country, and like 8/10 times if it's something you actually want it's going to be like $45-60+ for no good reason and secondhand is no better. Literally just stalk surplus sites and search "grenade" week after week if not day after day as new stock is posted. Or look at the "new items" section daily.
>>64441177Damn it anon you can't just post an ID guide for mags with no key for what the differences mean. And now I want to look at the various mags I have to see if that cut varies in regular fin backed mags but I doubt they do. Also checked.
>>64400799Now this is what I love to see. Something beautiful about this type of Kalashnikov
Got My OKP7 clone, looks pretty good, I have a bad stigmatism or whatever it's fucking called. So it's a bit blurry, but It looks decent compared to most. Feels solid, Mounted to my m70uf. Will post some pics later.
>>64450895You got a link on where you bought it from? There's a ton of them around, but I don't know which I should get.
>>64451053I just bought one on Ebay, all of them are the same. So find a reputable vendor. All come from California too. Make sure to double check whether you get the side rail or Picatinny version.
>>64450895Mine was shutting itself off during firing due to recoil physically imparting an inertial force on the brass power switch plunger, causing it to shift, and over the course of a few shots it would shut off. Also I don't think mine was holding zero, but not sure. Mine definitely wasn't working under NVG because in low light the photoresistor resistance was too high and just shut the LED off entirely. Shame because I liked it honestly. Returned it to the chinkoid vendors.
>>64450790>ID guideIt's not really an ID guide, just showing examples of the original slabside vs the finalized version. So unless you have a plethora of slab sides I don't think any other mags have the original profile, as iirc the feed lip profile wasn't optimal and there were some issues thus the final version.
>>64403381So you don't know either, got it.
Are Barnaul ammo corrosive?
>>64451511Bad luck? I was watching some guy shoot it on a KP9 which would fuck it up even more and he had no issues. Claims it stayed zeroed too.
>>64452557>claims it stayed zeroI want to see before and after groups
>>64451511Not to be that guy, but you did the whole sighting in procedure for the side rails right? But your other issues made me not want one. I'll just get a Novus if I want some RUlarp on my rifles.
Am retard buying my first AK; goal is to stick a can on it sometime after January. What's the ideal barrel length for it? Is it better to start long and cut down or start small and build up? Was looking at Zastavas since they seem to be a good choice right now.
>>64446481Yeah, some dude in St. Petersburg shipped them.
>>64445375>it actually looks really, really goodbros... a-are we back?
>>64451613Ah, I see, neat; unfortunately I don't have slab mags but good info.
>>64453485>start from short or long?I'd say long and cut down but unless it can somehow be done with the barrel still in the receiver you're not cutting the barrel down or replacing it with a longer one without removing the rivets to pull the trunnion out. Unless someone has a way to put the barrel though the back of their lathe (IIRC an option on some) where the receiver can stay out of the way of the jaws, etc., that is. Hopefully someone who has actually done this can chime in as I've never fucked with barrels on AKs before. IMO better to start long and be happy with the noise but a little disappointed by the length and later go shorter than go so short you're extremely disappointed with the volume; at least then you have a gun that's quiet enough for you. The downside is, assuming you start with a 16" barrel, with a silencer it's going to handle like a ~21" barrel at the very shortest. Folding stocks help but sometimes all that gets you is a maybe couple inches shorter than the same rifle if it had a fixed stock and no silencer; if this is bad or not depends on what you're using it for.>ZastavaDon't those have a funky bulged trunnion? And while I don't have a lot of silencers like some on this board, I've had the chance to shoot my own as well as listen to some others at the range on various guns. I don't think 7.62x39 is going to be hard to silence but I'm not sure how short you'd want to go. What's your goal? Hearing safe? Reduced volume? Subs or super? I hate to say it but this is also one of those things that you seem to really need to hear for yourself. I've heard all sorts of claims of "this doesn't hurt the ears" or even "it's hearing safe" but even sitting right behind a guy who let me hear his rifle; he goes "Doesn't even ring the ears" (6.5 creed bolt action, silenced), meanwhile my ears rang a good minute or two after lol. Granted my ears are probably way less damaged than his as I'm very careful with my hearing.
>>64453485Start classic. AKM length, AKM compatible furniture, AKM compatible everything, stamped not milled.Don't purchase anything already modernized. Get is a standard as possible. Why ? Because it will save you fucking headaches when you will want to mess around with it or replace a used part or whatever and you will familiarize yourself with the OG and not some kind of weird ass Arsenal or serbian shit or whatever.
>>64454564And i forgot : M14X1LH obviously. M24X1.5RH is fucking annoying and i won't get into details why (protip : suppressors).
>>64454564>>64454574Oh yeah and if you can take a look at it before buying it ask the nigger being the counter if he have a suppressor for it and an alignment rod. Trust me. You don't want to buy an non concentric piece of shit. You REALLY don't. Even if you have better choice than me gunsmith and suppressor wise in amurica.
>>64454564>>64454574>>64454597If your goal is to get a suppressed AK fast and clean in 2025 do the following : 1. Triple check it's concentric, ideally test it with a direct thread suppressor and stick a rod in this bitch BEFORE PURCHASING IT. All i can say is that my WBP was dead straight but that's my experience and then again apparently they break left and right in America (which i'm convinced is a fucking blown off proportions sample of one that happened to one or two dudes out of shitty ass parts kit but whatever, don't want to summon the tripfag). 2. Replace piston with a KNS. I never EVER saw an undergased AK to begin with so adding a suppressor into the equation means a way to tame the gas a little bit. Done.
>>64452685I got this video too.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIQMptsRvCQBut I will test mine this week, so we will see.
>>64455012There is also a dude who updated on plebbit after shooting it on a saiga 12ga.
>>64454360>The downside is, assuming you start with a 16" barrel, with a silencer it's going to handle like a ~21" barrel at the very shortest.That was my initial worry that made me ask. Don't want a completely fucked weight distribution, even on an AK with a thicker receiver.>Don't those have a funky bulged trunnion?Yeah, now that you mention it I can see where that can be an issue if I have to remove the barrel>What's your goal?Doesn't have to be completely hearing safe, I'll still probably use earpro when I'm at the range. Just don't want to go completely deaf if there's ever a time I have to shoot it without earpro.>>64454637>Triple check it's concentricEverything I read says Zastavas are (and are also 14x1 LH), although I will still check in person regardless of what AK I end up getting>Replace piston with a KNSOvergassing does seem to be a problem with Zastavas
>>64455101You will not be removing the barrel, it's a AK.It's the same amount of difficulty for a bulged or non bulged.>OvergassingMy m70UF is undergassed. New Zastavas seem to be very well gassed. And the m90 5.56 has a changeable gas system.>WeightLift more :)
>>64455101>weight distributionI don't know if that'd really be an issue. Then again a 22 silencer is a lot smaller and lighter than any other rifle caliber ones.>Doesn't have to be completely hearing safe, I'll still probably use earpro when I'm at the range.That's completely different, then. If you mainly use it at the range it's a lot different than dragging it through the woods and brush. 16" will be fine; I have a ~6" silencer on an 18" barrel and it's okay, just ends up being SKS length despite being a 22. Fine for the range, even fine for hunting trails and fields. Just once you get into that damn brush you have to watch the muzzle or it catches on branches and shit.>concentricityBTW HUXWRX seems to make a decent concentricity rod. I have their 556 one for 22LR silencers. Has worked well so far; checked a couple barrels with it, no issues.>overgassing/KNSMy WASR is overgassed to fuck FWIW. I need a KNS bad and it isn't even silenced. IIRC shooting TulAmmo.
>>64455220>My WASR is overgassed to fuck FWIW. I need a KNSSo was mine, instead of paying $150 for a KNS I fixed it with a $10 KNS stronger recoil spring
>>64455115>Lift more :)there is no reason for zastava to make every single part of the AK heavier.fact check: TRVTH
>>64456407They made it so we could become big and strong
>>64453485If you definitely want to suppress, I would strongly consider doing a kit build. Where are you located? >>64455012>>64455091EhThese are hardly what I would call good tests of zero retention. In order to test zero retention of an optic you need several things controlled for. The platform itself being used to test really ideally needs to be able to shoot groups that are smaller than the minimum adjustment size. I don't know what that is for these Chinese OKP-7 clones but lets be generous and say they have 1 MOA adjustments, then we need to use a platform that can hold 1 MOA groups. Also the POA precision needs to be comparable to this same group size, which IMO means a magnifier, ideally more magnification. Ammo used also needs to be consumate with the group requirement, as does the shooter and rest. I tried doing my own zero retention test and the results I got were inconclusive bordering on indicating that the optic did not hold zero.
>>64456317Fug, how many times I must've thought about buying a KNS not even thinking that KNS might also make springs. Thanks anon. How much did that tame it?
>>64433576Nobody cares about the GWOT anymore besides vetbros who peaked as zogbots.
>>64457102>Where are you located?Muittistan.
