Post your favorite black projects/theories.
>>64405983Your mother is my favorite military project
>>64405983>>64405988Both ya muddahs are black projectsFuck yamudda
Should the Aurora finally be declassified after all these years?From what I've gathered, both prototypes were destroyed in accidents, and the program was a total failure.
I want to know more about the transcontinental underground without the D.U.M.B./mole people well poisoning.> what is the underground great wall of China
Kind of a brown project but the Memri TV channel is both hilarious and totally an Israeli operation
>>64407195If this enormous shit would've crashed TWICE don't you think you would have eye witnesses? Is the military that good at hiding shit ?
>>64407435I don’t believe anything came of that project but it would depend on where they tested it. The military uses a very large portion of the Pacific as a test range, and if it was really testing exotic propulsion methods at very high speeds it might not be the strangest thing for them to test over water instead of out in the Mojave just by virtue of needing more space to play with. So again, not that I really believe it was a program that produced anything, but if it crashed over water at night who would know?
>>64407195Given that the SR-72's planned capabilities and mission profile are basically what Aurora is purported to be/failed to accomplish, I doubt that it'll be declassified for at least a couple more years. >>64407435America is a big place, and they could have tested over the oceanRemember that satellite surveillance wasn't as developed back then, especially outside of the US
>>64407435>Is the military that good at hiding shit ?Yes.>>64407317Same
>>64407435"destroyed in accidents" != "crashed"
>>64405983The secret space program, could be an international effort for all I know, but there are other ISS (and larger) sized objects orbiting our planet. Shits so cash and scary at teh same time, kek.>website relatedhttps://www.tarrdaniel.com/documents/Ufology/spacemachines.html>>64407317How far down would they be? I personally would guess well below the ground, maybe even 1km, perhaps more? Definitely deeper than that Iranian refinement facility that was fucked.The best question would be both how long have they been there, and why would they be there to begin with. For the most part it seems that the government intends on high level officials either being in the air or in the few known military bases like Raven Rock or Mount Cheyenne in the event of something like a nuclear war or other catastrophe. There are certainly tunnels and secret facilities, especially on the east coast and southwest US, but I doubt they are connected continent wide.Would there be more modern facilities in the west? It would certainly make sense as they would be in a remote area with no reason to attack, unless their location is revealed it would be the best choice for well developed installations and would be in a good spot to allow the covert movement and storage of prototype, extremely top secret vehicles. Shit like prototypes concerning the Strategic Defense Initiative and that thing.
>>64407195>and the program was a total failure.I'd heard the existence was intentionally leaked during a diplomatic mission and that ended the 'cold war'. Wasn't long after that (on the scale of time) that is was retired as the capabilities cannot justify the cost when the same output can be achieved cheaper. Then the space shuttle got shut down, because their re-entry heatshielding was something stolen from Aurora and without that program making more the tiles ran dry.
>>64407435>Is the military that good at hiding shit ?Hello?
>>64405983People really think America is hiding some alien tech it found in Roswell but lost both the Vietnam War and the middle east.Trump alone would've blabbed about some sekrit shit and thrown everything if there was some ultimate weapon in his first term. He already retardedly enough said in his first term that they created a new super nuke which military generals were shocked that he leaked.
>>64408623>Trump alone would've blabbed about some sekrit shitAssuming someone would tell the obvious security risk their department even exists. >People really think America is hiding some alien tech it found in Roswell but lost both the Vietnam War and the middle east.Do these things actually matter? I mean enough to reveal capabilities?
>>64408630>Do these things actually matter? I mean enough to reveal capabilities?America would've done anything to win those wars outside of a nuke.
>>64408623He literally did, and still does. During his 9/11 speech at some spot in Pennsylvania during his first term, he said "and we will respond with destructive power the world has never seen, and I'm not talking about nuclear". The press spent the better part of the next week calling him a retard because "there is no weapons more powerful than nuclear weapons". He also mentioned something about weapons "we don't even know how they work" in reference to a question about Xi/China during a press conference in the Oval Office.
>>64408653I phear you're confuddling 'america' with a few people with vested interest in an outcome, and disregarding the people that would need to care about it enough to let their technology be seen have vested interest in not revealing the existance of their operations to such.
>>64408799>"we don't even know how they work"Meaning he doesn't know how they work. Which could be a lot of things.
>>64408807Nah, he literally won't shut the fuck about it. Those are just the two I can find news articles or have seen video of him saying it, but I know there are others. I'm sure he has no clue how it works, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
All I have to say is Stealth Blackhawks. They don't exist until they do.
>>64408623I'll bite on this theory. My personal guess is that these things are heinously expensive to build and operate and the first few generations were not very safe (like every time you took off you had a non-zero chance of coming back as soup). If some of what is speculated here on /k/ os true, we also wouldn't want anyone to know because it totally breaks MAD and this is essentially the terminal end of the tech tree.
>>64408630>reveal capabilitiesit is hilarious how common this capeshit thinking is among americans
>>64408846Outside of Curtis LeMay and a few of his direct subordinates, the entirety of the Air Force has zero idea the CIA had been flying the A-12 for years before the USAF got the SR-71. The AF flight test pilots and engineers out at Area 51 were confused about how a few of the guys already knew how to fly a plane that wasn't supposed to exist. This is just one example.
>>64407317>i want to know more about the well poisoning without the well poisoning
>>64408846I guess if you're a thirdie, you have no decorum and can't look at things from a nuance. There's so many historical and current examples of secret things that warrants this thinking from Americans.
>>64407915>tard danielkek
>>64405983Underground submarine bases.
>>64408862>muh expensive planes, even managed to keep some secretsrather mundane, is this the extent of capabilities to reveal?>>64408866>muh thirdies copeone more render bro, one more promotional material of SR-707 antigrav skydestroyer and everything will be well again
>>64408892I think you're mentally unwell because no one has any idea what the fuck you're talking about.
>>64408826>I'm sure he has no clue how it works, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.Me too. The crux of the issue the vast number of things that could be. There has been a lot of demonstrated lack of understanding.
>>64408915I think you can follow what I'm saying just fine
>>64408892Considering it was developed in the 60's, I would say at the time it was anything other than "rather mundane". I would wager the front-mounted electron guns and cesium charged exhaust weren't just for RCS reduction. Pretty stupid to think there isn't some unknown capabilities that we keep close to vest. The CPU you use now only exists because the Department of Energy decided that it might be a good idea to put some of that classified SDI-era excimer laser research into beating the Japanese to EUV lithography. There is a reason why Sandia National Labs was the patent holder for EUV LLC
>>64408917I don't think any of these faggots on government that I charge of actually using it really know how it works. The just know it does. The last high-level government official I can think of that would definitely be able to grasp the "how" of any of this would be former Secretary of Energy Stephen Chu.
>>64408926>I would say at the time it was anything other than "rather mundane".From what I can make out, it was essentially an inside-out ramjet. Once it got up to operating speed on a conventional engine the friction of the surfaces was enough to ignite fuel nozelled out is bursts. (significant)Air pressure forced the energy into the shaped hull directing the thrust. Pulses because the ablation would churn through the tiles, the 'donuts on a rope' effect being the point of switchover... In principle... Quite mundane. The actuality of it, from an engineering perspective... Well. It was easier to shut down the shuttle program, than work out how to build the tiles.>>64408926>I would wager the front-mounted electron guns and cesium charged exhaust weren't just for RCS reductionI've long postulated that SR-71 sported some undisclosed MHD system across the leading surfaces...
>>64408949My personal guess is that it started with the Trapeze variants of the U-2. It makes no sense why we would stick all that shit on a U-2 so it could go slower and have a significantly reduced service ceiling for a supposedly reduced radar cross section. Looking at the photos, it's crazy that it even got airborne. It looks like they stuck a cattle fence across the fuselage. And why would you need electron guns on the front of the plane if you're only concerned about charging the exhaust for RCS reduction?
>>64408926>Pretty stupid to think there isn't some unknown capabilities that we keep close to vestpretty stupid to think there is anything of this sort that goes beyond turbo expensive 3.7% betterer X device or narrow domain research that is merely the frontier everyone else is converging on>The CPU you use now only exists because *we wuz kangs*narrow domain research a few years ahead, mundanewe researched something, went nowhere at the time but proved useful later, this is mundane story1960's conditions are gone, the world is not bomber to shit and only starting to recover anymore, all that US has is on display
>>64405983Phased Plasma Holograms, aka "the tic-tac" Started as a reaction to difficulties in getting the preferred defensive countermeasure (lasers) operational due to low tech readiness of solid state lasers in the early 2000s. Later dropped after lasers matured. Still cool though
Die Glocke. it worked but too well and its disappeared through time and now it keeps showing up randomly. Thats why old tapestry show space ships its the bell appearing in the past. I dont think theres even a pilot in it. just a brick on the gas peddle.
Metal gear?
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>>64409244>it isn't real>ok it is real but it's not bad>ok it's kinda bad but it's not our fault>ok it is our fault but it's actually just the government doing itWhat will they think of next
>>64407915>one dude made something and he can see all this shit > but no one else can and he's not making more to back his point up>look at all these blurry images!Yeah nah
>>64409244>Location: India
>>64409251>Seabees get bored and drill a well on the North Slope. >This starts a chain of events that will result in an oil company having a doomsday device that modifies the upper atmosphereBizzaro Timeline
>>64409315God i cant fucking wait for Twitter to get flags
>>64409008Considering "excited dimers" lasers aka excimer lasers are at the crux of polariton laser systems, I would say you're totally wrong. Also, holy fucking ESL
>>64409010Allegedly this was a viable system in the 80's. It supposedly started out as a full fledged hologram system ala Bluebeam (which is probably how the legend got started), but they couldn't get the hologram part to work because real time holography is hard. But what they could get working is generating a ball of plasma and using a third modulated laser to make it "talk".
>>64407915The intra-continental tunnel system is by far the dumbest thing I've heard. They could barely widen I-25 through Monument Valley, and somehow they tunneled through the valley, under the entire city of Colorado Springs, Centennial, and Parker 90 75 miles and no one noticed? I WOULD believe that there is a secret tunnel that leads from CMAFS to an exit on the western slope. There is indeed a fairly substantial cave system on Cheyenne Mountain. Part of the neighborhood up the mountain past Old Stage Rd. next to the zoo uses the caves as a cistern for their water, and there are underground connections to at least a few of the houses.
The current HAVE program. The aircraft themselves are not classified, but the stories of how the US eventually got them are always interesting. The previous program Have Phoenix is still classified too.My bet is that Have Phoenix is that the aircraft are Sukhois, specifically the 24, 25, 27 and/or 30.
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>>64407343No shit dummy, they literally admit to it.And the best part is: they are 100% truthful. The worst thing they do is use a slightly stronger word when there is a toss-up choice of translation. They are just using the people's own words against them.>t. OG MEMRI enjoyerit is without a doubt the most based thing Israel has ever done
>>64409244>>64409315>>64409777
>>64407915>The best question would be both how long have they been thereOne over the North Pole was known more than a century ago. Then there's the Aeroship Mystery of the late 1800s (supposedly something beside artillery hot air balloons was demonstrated to Lincoln; thereafter Germans running around in the West with non-dirigibles-- see Walter Bosely). >>64408623Strategic Weapons Overmatch to that scale cannot be shown without a - so compromised the Manhattan Project gifted the Soviets/British the Atomic Bomb Congress et. al. - rugpull movement to audit funding and capabilities. Diplomacy becomes Atlantean OR ELSE. Détente and a ratcheted technological release/progression is preferable. Then there's the 3 Body Problem style contingencies, wherein it's probably safer to appear 'stuck' on less than singularity tech-- especially when jackoff Star Trek pinkos are soliciting signals and probes rawdogged out there into the void with zero discretion or fucks. >>64408862>Outside of Curtis LeMay and a few of his direct subordinates, the entirety of the Air ForceThey never had to disclose or testify their version of MKULTRA>... has zero idea the CIA had been flying the A-12 for years before the USAF got the SR-71British cutout from inception in OSS and a den of thieves and traitors. Karl Fuchs gets sent to the Manhattan Project - with deliberate non-vetting - to join a gaggle of other open Reds by the British, and now insane dick & clit mutilating millenarian theocracies with double digit national IQ averages in possession of nukes, along with the legacy Sino-Soviets. NSAMs following up JFK removing paramilitary activities from 3 Letters in very late 2019 are only just being followed up on now. There can't be this kind of Chekism and direct action outside of the military's aegis, such as your plane example (just look at that ISR drone mothership capable plane conveniently in range of the Kirk assassination-- the fuck was that).
>>64407317The expense and manpower necessities of that would be so insane that you couldn't hide it if you killed every eye-witness.
>>64409834Just because some MKULTRA experiments MAY have been performed at USAF installations (like Lackland), that doesn't mean the Air Force has their own program. What the USAF did have their own fucked up programs around low pressure/high altitude flight experiments. We let in some pretty fucked up people during Paperclip that did some pretty fucked up things, but they served a purpose. I have no idea what the rest of your text is attempting to convey, however.
>>64408862The SR71 was a spy plane for taking photos of military bases before disappearing into the blue horizon. It wasn't Roswell tier shit.
>>64407915There's a comic book - released by the Federal Reserve no less - called Wishes and Rainbows that is.....suggestive of underground civilizations, or at the very least inhabitants.
>>64408601the story i got is that a fast mover that fit the "aurora" profile was definitely real, there was an extremely small number of them, 3 at most, but it was obscenely expensive and basically had to be rebuilt after every flight. They used it a few times, kept it in a hangar in groom lake for emergencies, then buried them in the desert after the ussr fell
>>64409876That's the point. It was a relatively mundane project as far as other shit that was going on around Area 51 at the time, but virtually no one knew about it existed. There was all kinds of weird glownigger shit going on at every dry lake bed in Nevada with the Atomic Energy Commission leading the charge. We only know about a tiny fraction of it. >>64410264I wouldn't doubt it. It's pretty heavily implied in Ben Rich's book they had developed a workable hydrogen ramjet. The Air Force also kept running the high energy fuel program and kept on dicking around with borated fuel blends for (((reasons)))
>>64407915Lmao. That's a fuzzed picture of a ship from 40k, and the two under it are Klingon battlecruisers.
>>64408807Magnets.
>>64408937Anon he doesn't know how fucking staplers work.436th Degree Chess tho.
>>64410353I know the reasons, they love wasting retard huge amounts of money on personal obsessions. Hydrogen ramjest was a great example. HUGE power! HUGE bills!Never worth it, any of them. MKUltra was a bullshit waste of what 16 years? Complete fucking failure.
>>64405983hypersonic suborbital stealth blimp propelled by ion engines.I won't elaborate search it up yourself.
>>64409663>bla bla blaconfused jargon larpif black projects amount to what I said they amount to, the 'capeshit thinking' does not apply, it's mundane
>>64407317People just straight-up don't believe it. The fark knower put it best: the signal to noise ratio is almost zero. Anybody who knows ain't talking because it could get them v&, and disinfo covers the tracks. It's seriously depressing.
>>64410476Is this the thing that was seen over Bush Ranch? And also behind the Phoneix Lights?
>>64405983Someone get zapperanon in here
>>64405988HIS MOTHER IS A INSTITUTION TO THE US NAVY! THAT WHORE SERVICED THOUSANDS OF SAILORS! Have some respect!
>>64405983"black projects" have become an excuse for the military to waste untold amounts of money because they can always imply it's being used diligently elsewhere. in reality, the people in charge are incompetent and nothing cool is being made in the background. all of our shit is 50-years old with occasional upgrades. all of our new projects have fallen apart. anything cool like FLRAA was done in public. i'll believe the F-47 is real when I see it flying. until then, it's more vaporware.
>>64409907what in the goddamn
>>64413537Can confirm -- wasn't the best I've had, but much like unattended pizza in the barracks rec room Anon's mom is worth the disease risks at 0400 when you're too drunk to pukeSadly this is the only post I can make ITT if I don't want the resident glowie coming over to say hello, the living room isn't clean enough for that.
>>64414412Tell us what you know anon! There's nobody here but us bots!
>>64407195>US secret projects up until the 80s>indirectly responsible for most major innovations in products that civilian consumers use today>US secret projects past the 80s>everything is shelved, abandoned or never followed up and no innovations see the light of dayWhat happened
>>64414896Got too advanced. They're already pushing the limit of what can be introduced to our tech tree.
>>64414927Better keep pouring billions into it instead of developing much needed infrastructure then!
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I’ve posted this before but when I was at Ft Meade I did some work with AWG. It was mostly regarding explosive damage capabilities from drones against typical humvees (this was around the time ISIS was popping off in Syria) and the results were predictable. They operated out of the old jail on post and the interior was built like a maze to keep prisoners disoriented. They taught a bitching weapons course.The most spoopy shit I saw was that they had a pheromone detector. It was a little plastic box about 4x8 inches. They used it like a lie detector. You didn’t even have to answer a question and they could tell if a line of questioning made you nervous or excited and that was enough to derive a base level of intelligence. They could literally smell a fucking lie.
>>64414896The low hanging fruit got picked basically, the stuff that’s most used to and affordable for the civilian sector seems to have been done. There’s still a fair amount of carryover with aerospace research though. Boeing did research for DARPA on blended wing body aircraft, which JetZero is now trying to turn into civilian airliners and cargo craft. GE got a lot of money from the government to research engine efficiency improvements, which has informed the performance of their current and upcoming generation of civilian engines, and from what I’ve heard their research on those is informing their variable cycle engines in turn. Boom is also trying to bring private supersonic flight back, but again most supersonic research was government funded. However it seems like most black projects recently have focused largely on stealth, which has no real private applications, detection of stealth which again isn’t useful, or novel propulsion that isn’t remotely economical when basic supersonic flight is only maybe becoming affordable in the private sector. Funnily enough civilian tech by way of hobbyist drones has done more to change warfare recently than military tech has been able to change civilian life since probably the broad adoption of gps.
>>64414974>proceeds to withhold aid
>>64414974my sides
>>64408799I can never get through any of his speeches because he talks like a genuine fucking retard and I find it very infuriating
>>64405983Prevent threads like this, always be sure to spay and neuter your schizos.
>>64408838there already was some heniously suicidal shit in the 60's, wasnt there. some sort of nuclear powered engine for a jet they were considering. it was supposed to be so fast the horizon would appear to be dropping away from you, youd circle the globe like every 20 minutes, but youd leave nuclear wash behind you several miles wide and basically if you actually took off the pilots would probably know "the end of the world is happening" and theres no landing routine for it because...once you slow down that nuclear wash catches up so your just fucking dead either way? and they just kinda decided "yeah lets just not continue this project. lets just not". i bet they did continued anyways, but its just a crazy?pretty sure it was project pluto, but it doesnt mention why they cancelled it. nuclear powered ramjets. theoretically capable of mach 3 (2,300 mph) and cheaper then a b-52 bomber
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>>64416920>>64416917>>64416907>>64416900what is this
>>64416926It's the future we lost
>>64416900Strategic femboy storage facility?
Black helicopters parked outside the NERVA facilities
Wasn't there a black project in the 1950s where the US military tried to turn a ship invisible but it just caused all kinds of weird shit to happen to the people on the ship like fusing their bodies to the ship and turning their dicks into vaginas?
Strange black craters on top of this mesa
Bunker entrance near the Project Pluto test bunker https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn3UDyLf9-A
>>64416667Project Pluto was designed to eradicate whatever your target was for all of eternity, essentially flying in circles until the vehicle itself fell apart. The pressure released from the engines was enough to break windows at the altitude they were designed to fly at, and the vehicles were to essentially fly in a big circle over its intended target and absolutely rape them with overpressure and nuclear waste. That was a legit doomsday weapon, even if you shoot it down it’s still deadly. That entire project is fucking evil incarnate
>>64405983we 100% have a space navy already with actual military ships in space with crew, not just a drone or the ISS. During the lockdowns I legally couldn't be at work for 10 months because of my job so I just autistically watched literally every single hearing that we had for like 14 hours a day every single day because that's what I love to do but can't normally because of work. At one point top brass in the navy was brought in for some questions under oath and one of the congressmen/senators (forget which hearing it was) asked about us already having a space fleet because at the time the rage was people being mad about trump and his space force. Guy's body language was like a toddler trying to lie that they didn't eat anything with cake all over their face I've never seen someone so uncomfortable answering questions. There's no doubt in my mind that we already have a space navy. Makes sense that the navy is in charge of it too instead of the air force because they already have experience with submarines which are more similar to being in space than planes are.
>>64417043Which hearing? I’m interested
>>64417006>That entire project is cool as fuckfixed the ending for youexterminating your enemies' bloodline, cutting down his orchards, and salting his lands will never not be based
>>64417056I say it’s evil because one of the main reasons it was scrapped was to keep it out of the hands of the sovietsCool and badass when we have it, evil when our enemies do
>>64409854What about bots?What about bots controlled by people?What about the screens of these bots having AR so that those working through the bots have no idea what or where they are doing. Mining operations are not that complex.
>>64417060>keep it out of the hands of the sovietsThat makes sense, thirdies can't make anything original by themselves unless the White Man invents it first. And whenever they try the results are entertaining (assuming you're a safe distance away)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9M730_Burevestnik
>>64416926https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qMuS5kaDBI
>>64414896The boom of the Finance Economy. Back in the day, the best way to make money was in industry. Banking wasn't sexy and didn't have a lot of the modern tricks that people exploit today set up yet. So the government had a lot of industrial contractors to exploit and farm out innovation to. Today, its the total opposite, only autistic weirdos get into industry and particularly military contracting, and everyone else goes to finance or Silicon Valley tech. You'll make way more money doing fuck all at Vanguard than you ever would burning your life away working at LockMart. So two of the biggest destinations for smart people are not at all useful for doing contracting work that would technologically revolutionize the world. If the NSA wants some spyware to figure out what you dreamt about last night, it can get it. But the Army doesn't have the same talent pool it used to.
redpill me on project dirt
>>64416942It was 1943 and it was the Philadelphia Experiment.>>64414896I get a distinct feeling it's what this guy said >>64414927. Who knows. Maybe the guidelines for patent gags became too broad. One thing I do know is there are definitely research you can find that could revolutionize certain industries and make the university a shitload of money. EUV is a good example. Not only did the DoE through Sandia get a fat royalty for patent licensing to the EUV consortium, but so did the University of California Board of Regents. But then you have slow light. The ONR, Harvard, MIT, and NIST/UC Boulder funded research that literally won them a Nobel and demonstrated a previously only theoretical new state of matter. Lene Hau furthered it by actually stopping light in a gas. This has a shitload of real world commercial applications from photonic computing interconnects, error correction and control mechanisms for quantum computing, ultra high bandwidth optics, etc. etc. And yet there are zero patents for any of their work and her principal graduate student who was working for Raytheon at the time is now a fucking VP there. Where did it go? Licensing and royalties would generate both Harvard and MIT an absolute fuckton of money. It's a big red flag.>>64413109I have been here
>>64417481What you said, and that the Cold War Era treated them like rockstars. Unlike today, I don't think there has been a huge technological jump across all sectors like that post WWII. I guess you could say science had a more tangible benefit, and we were doing cool that had parallel applications to military technology. Take the moon landing. While going to the moon was a large part of it, developing both ICBM and MIRV technology was also a much more important aspect. If we could launch a rocket with a detachable bus and land it's contents on the fucking moon, we can 100% fill that bus with multiple nuclear warheads and stick it on Moscow. Landing on the moon was just a cooler way to demonstrate it.
>>64417792You're never going to believe what they were researching...
>>64405983the US has neuron lenses in orbit that can destroy enemy undeground silos at will and kill all personel in them and fry all electronic ciruits in them and it has had them in orbit since the shuttle programme.Fact.Fuck around and find out
>>64417953>neutron lensesfixed
>>64417953So why the fuck did we need to fly bombers all the way to Iran to destroy the centrifuges?
>>64417842The celebrity that you used to get from being a champ engineer is crazy compared to today. Look at Carbine Williams, imagine if today one of the guys that designed the M7 rifle or the F47 plane, got a propaganda film made about them. Or if you had a return to the days where members of the Atomic Energy Commission or the like were actually hugely respected public figures that everyone knew and listened to. We really don't have anything like that today. While its socially much better than it used to be in the late 90s-early 00s, it is still super unsexy and comparatively unprofitable to go spend your life working on plane designs or rocket designs over just getting any degree and working at any asset management company. In the 50s, saying that you worked at McDonnell Douglas designing fighter planes would have been something to brag about, today its something you bring up on the 3rd date to avoid getting ghosted.
>>64418338Just to prove we could. Why use top secret weapons when public ones will do?
>>64417043>pic relI don't suppose you remember which hearing it was? Super curious.And look up the Salvatore Cezar Pais patents.
>>64409813Maybe hes in Pakistan, New Jersey?
>>64407343It's great. It makes me laugh and look down at Arabs and hate Israel even more.
Stargate: SG-1 was a documentary, not an action show.
>>64420067based
>>64411793>The fark knowerEverything he said endlessly fascinates me. The Stuff he was posting about 2004-5 is 100% legit because it was between him and his buddies, everything after that is suspect, but a lot of the more ridiculous stuff like PD seem too ridiculous to lie about, and I wonder. It's just too well-crafted a lie, too consistent. That and that the name comes from a shitty transformers joke.
>>64420512who?
>>64408846The f117 had an entire squadron flying for like 5 years before the plane was ever revealed to exist
>>64420590that was back when americans were actually able to do things like that, when they were still at the forefront of innovation and had some industry left
>>64420624Americans are still essentially at the forefront dipshit. The only force better at hiding their super sekret secrets is the chinese.
>>64420844>Americans are still essentially at the forefront dipshitwhat are americans at the forefront of? black projects that will never see the light of day?
>>64420067XD
>americans would rather build top secret aircraft than fix their crumbling infrastructureel oh el
>>64405983>Black ProjectsNot sure how this is is /k/ related but okay.
>>64417046>>64420067I don't remember which hearing unfortunately. I was just watching literally every hearing that was on for like 10 months for 14 hours a day. It was during the lockdown though, if there's a database of hearings and who the sworn witnesses are you can probably figure it out from that. Top navy brass during covid lockdown. I think the line of questions from the representative completely took him by surprise which is why he did such a piss poor job at hiding it
>>64416667I believe you are thinking of SLAM
>>64421583Project Pluto is just some of the things we know about. God knows what the fuck they were up to (and still probably are) out in the middle of the Nevada desert (and Utah as well). If you weren't scared of the possibility of mild to severe irradiation, I bet working for the AEC was a fun time.>You want to melt a reactor down for funsies? Sure, he's a check>A one-point fail-deadly safety test of a nuclear weapon? Where do we send the money?>Want to build a nuclear rocket engine and blast it into the sky for hours on end...well, sir...I have something you might be interested inAnd that's only a few of the things that were declassified. One thing we are good at is apparently keeping secrets. The schizo above braying about MKULTRA unironically found a good example of a secret project that mostly stayed secret. The only reason anyone knows about it officially is they didn't destroy a literal single box of documents. Outside of that box, who knows what the fuck they were up to. MKULTRA was just the LSD portion, but that's all we know besides sub-project names. The real point is the government had a blank check for whatever wild shit you could come up with for a solid 40 years.
There is no Finnish Nuclear weapons program.That's just a myth.
>>64407343its funny, but its really just the logical conclusion of any religion having any control/association of a government. if anything, they are just more true to their religion. imagine if the united states started denouncing presidents for wearing clothing made of two different types of material, or for eating pork but not eating locusts? shit would get retarded fast if anyone actually took it seriously.
>>64405983>black dorito>AAAAHHHH SO SPOOKYwhy are ufoids like this
>>64422290>Who else knows what they were up toBonnie’s Kids. Named after Bonnie Nettles who was their handler. Fun fact: the real reason Applewhite was castrated was to continue his genetic lineage. None of the plants amounted to much though. None of them had enough charisma to build a following like he did. The Heavens Gate weirdos managed to install some back doors effectively back in the day but like everything run by the government internal politics and ass kissing took over. The fact that combat experience takes precedent over psychological background is why they can’t achieve more than the occasional spree shooter for media distractions and political gain. The social contagion factor has been a direct net negative on society as well. Fucking democrats.
>>64420512How does fark work? I can't figure out how to view his other comments just by clicking on his profile - then again I'm on mobile.
>>64416900damn i fucking love desert military base conspiracy theories
>>64410371>Magnets.Just put them in water. That's the end of the magnets.
>>64417043I've also heard it's a branch of the navy.
>>64417894Try me.
>>64418608>Why use top secret weapons when public ones will do?How would they know what it was?For that matter, what the fuck is a 'neutron lense'? and where are these neutrons supposed to be coming from?
>>64424183I'm not saying I buy that it's true, just pointing out that there's no point in using a secret weapon (which they wouldn't talk about anyway) when the whole point was to strike a propaganda victory with our very public stealth bombers.
>>64420851face saving culture is such small dick energy. but go ahead and do something then. anytime now.
>>64425015you don't think the US has face culture?
>>64421043Have you ever heard of the emancipation proclamation?!
>>64422290had some of the nastiest nazis and japs providing info and running things too
>>64420512we definitely need more deets on this
>>64425299I don't listen to hiphop
>>64422313the finno-korean hyperwar hasn't been resolved yet
>>64405983>Project protect destinyAfter I found out about this I am 90% sure myself and a couple people I knew are part of it.Sentient Black Goo>British Military dude claimed they evacuated some island near the falklands>Go into ice cave>a bunch of containers at the back of the cave>they haul them out to ship and leave>he later talks to unit member>dude says they opened one of the crates >all dark oil, but then a big bump formed and moved towards themThis shit was also in X-files.
>>64426195Fuck, I'm retarded, Preserve* not Protect
>>64426033All the more reason for the Finns to avoid nukes - they've already got more devastating weapons.
>>64409008What country are you from?
>>64409777Kek
>>64426195The British military has much scarier things that are real and known, like that Island they seeded with Anthrax.
>>64407914>!=You’re not in a mathematics forum, use your words.
>>64426951that's /g/ speakmath speak would be =/=
>>64423457You have to manually search for them on Google unless you pay (I think). The bulk of it is on ATS, but it's down so you have to use the Wayback Machine. One day I'll make a "general" with all the archived links.>>64420512All the good stuff that you can still find is on ATS and post 2005. The bulk of the informative discussions are there between a handful of members and a couple mods. There are even old conversations between him and John Lear, but they are a bitch to find because ATS is down. The topic range is also much broader.
>>64427042>One day I'll make a "general" with all the archived links.Oh man you have me salivating anon. Please do this.
>>64407435We crashed 2 or 3 SR-71s and no one found out except some dudes that found the he pilot. (((Something))) crashed at Rendlesham Forest and Cash-Landrum sightings and all we have is a few witness descriptions. The latter attempted sue the DoD unsuccessfully. I imagine we're pretty good at it. These gay Congressional hearings where they talk about "crash retrieval teams" get the UFO tards all riled up, but no fucking shit we have a dedicated team for this. We probably treat it the same as securing and transporting a nuclear weapon. And to a point I made earlier, we did all kinds of heinous shit in the middle of nowhere like blow up reactors and blast radiation into the sky and the only reason we know about it is one dudes' FOIA request 40+ years later.
What do you guys think the P958 is?>On the Aero Classified, we have basically ground that program in talent..We've got our Chief Engineer for the entire company now, basically the project engineer on the P958 program, along with a lot of other talent, too.Lockheed Martin Skunk Works is working on a highly classified program it was awarded in 2018 (fixed price contract) that the CEO & CFO described this week as 'magical' , 'game changing' and 'critical for national security'. LM recognized a charge of nearly $1 Bn due to challenges in development, integration and testing.
>>64427777https://seekingalpha.com/article/4831539-lockheed-martin-corporation-lmt-q3-2025-earnings-call-transcript
>>64427777Checked. Nobody has a clue, and if they do, they aren't talking. My bet is SR72, they were supposed to have a prototype flying around now, though I don't know what kind of development it would have to make it "game changing".lol nevermind, it is Blackbird II.>958 was the first "regular" (neither test vehicle nor trainer) blackbird delivered to the Air Force.http://www.habu.org/sr-71/17958.html
>>64411793Elaborate...
>>64417185I will fap the skin right off my dick
>>64417060Yes, like everything, cool when we have it and they don't.Applies from superweapons to food, hell if you ask me oxygen.Have you thought much about the word enemy?
>>64417043manned combat spaceships are never gonna happen, humans are way too expensive to maintain in space and remote-controlled satellites can do exactly the same thing
>>64424913"Mr. President, all of Iran's planes exploded last night!"Yes."Well what happened?"They exploded."How?"7"What?"Yes.Headline: UNHINGED TRUMP GOES OFF ON BLIND NIGGER BABIES!
>>64424152My god, the russian navy is made of magnets!CAPTCHA: SKHAXIndeed they do.
>>64405983An GIGANTIC iowa class iowa that shoots iowa class iowa VLS
>>64428020>have you thought much about the word enemy?No. My free time is occupied thinking about your mother
>>64426951>I'm too stupid to derive meaning from context and/or too lazy to Google things I don't understand, spoonfeed me.No. Educate yourself or die.
>>64405983Whatever secret shit dugway proving ground has.
>>64409719I've caved in that Williams canyon area and in the private caves. The limestone geological unit is really small, just a pocket really. Nothing like you'd see in proper karst.From a professional mining and surveying prospective, you wouldn't be able to hide the logistical footprint of that scale. You'd see increased scarcity in specialty equipment and talent. Even nobody talked, hr recruiting and the tool dealers would notice.
>>64417075>Mining operations are not that complex.Mining is extremely complex at scale and depth. It's a small industry in the west and we all know each other. The back end facilitators for supply and tool are even fewer. We'd notice the talent vaccum on the commercial side.Guy I knew finishing his PhD on shaped charges would definitely say it's complex.
My gooncave
>>64428241I understood what he was trying to convey, I just don’t like the manner in which he did it. We aren’t discussing quantum phsyics, there’s no reason not to speak plainly.
>>64426951It's not maths exactly, it's logic.
Reminds me of that Antarctic copypasta about a hidden pyramid and advanced alien tech, was generally prosthetics and machine-to-flesh integration.
>>64409907They've been around forever. I think they're humans or closely related to humans.
>>644098764UI read a book by a former MiG pilot who talked about being vectored for intercept above the Black Sea one night during the cold war and seeing, and I quote, "a black shape" with "two extremely bright and long tails" going Mach FUCKYOU at an altitude of at least LMAOAREYOUEVENTRYING (ground control radar only went to like 15km altitude and the plane didn't get a radar lock at all)this was, and I quote again, his "first UFO encounter"
>>64414994
>>64416934whoa niceI did read that usg was reactivating that project for space "exploration" purposes but
What's deadlier than (((hip-hop)))
>>64405983Matter-antimatter charges, turn ya to e=mc squared, yo.
>>64428346I bet all of this has some kernel of truth, but it's not "transcontinental". I bet my ass there are a bunch of underground facilities in the dry lake beds around Nevada. We DEFINITELY know they were boring out deep fucking holes because we tested nuclear weapons in them and the instrumentation was in other connecting tunnels. And, you know AEC blank check money. A tunnel that runs from DIA to Cheyenne Mountain is gay as fuck though. It's like 1500 feet in elevation change from Denver proper to COS, and despite having the name "Denver" International Airport, it's not even fucking close to Denver. I also imagine someone would have discovered tunnels when they built a subdivision on top of Rocky Flats.
>>64429243Been chipping away at this book along with Enounters. American Cosmic solid and fast read
>>64409907What in da horry herr. Gotta be a digital bootleg copy out there
>>64408862Partially that was also due to the vast majority of SR71 and A12 sorties being flown for naval recon of the red banner fleet, so it wasn't actually generating a lot of intel for the USAF. Which is also part of why the USAF enthusiastically tried to kill both programs whenever possible.
>>64430123It's literally used in school to teach about limited resources in economics. You can Google the title and read it at archive.org
An anon here claimed that the tic tac UFOs were actually holographic plasma interference on IR systems
>>64430123I will say this, Roota sounds like an Ork gardener
>>64429754You've found an entrance when you get too close to a weird rock in the desert and start feeling sick. >>64430177Anyone can claim literally anything, why should I believe it has anything to do with plasma besides some fuckhead said so
>>64430198They said you can find the patents for them
>>64430198>Anyone can claim literally anything, why should I believe it has anything to do with plasma besides some fuckhead said soIts hilarious you think anyone gives a fuck what you think. Nobody has ever cared for an instant what passes for thoughts in your FAS addelled 55 IQ "Brain". Out of curious though, were you born a gay retard or was that like something you had to practice at to become such a collosal faggot?
>>64430355Calm down anon
>>64430177because the navy has a patent for it.
>>64431636https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QXw3ylCYT0
>>64417185https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-8q8INxQEY
>>64420851>what are americans at the forefront of?Literally everything.>>64429266see pic
>>64430177Because it is. I repost my post.Tic-Tacs are a cover story for the US Navy's Laser Induced Plasma Filament decoy system to fool IR missiles and IRST systems. See:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDSVJfuyJlkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNoOiXkXmYQIt can also transmit voice:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYr3zPP5rCwThere's a radar spoofing EW technique called Doppler shifting. Which allows you to fool the enemy radar into thinking a plane is in another location, going at a different speed. Add to the LIDF decoy system, and you fool both radar and IR sensors. There's also pulse conjugation, in which you cancel out the return pulse of the radar, to a point that's below environmental noise, or below the signal-to-noise ratio of the receiver, making you invisible, in a sense.Paper on how to shift Doppler and range of an object:https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA615308.pdfI suspect it's part of the US Navy's Netted Emulation of Multi-Element Signature against Integrated Sensors (NEMESIS) program.>NEMESIS is not just some 'paper program.' From publicly available, but obscure documents we've collected, it's clear that, for years, the Navy has been developing and integrating multiple types of unmanned vehicles, shipboard and submarine systems, countermeasures and electronic warfare payloads, and communication technologies to give it the ability to project what is, in essence, phantom fleets of aircraft, ships, and submarines. These realistic-looking false signatures and decoys have the ability to appear seamlessly across disparate and geographically separated enemy sensor systems located both above and below the ocean's surface.https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/29505/the-navys-secretive-nemesis-electronic-warfare-capability-will-change-naval-combat-forever
>>64431728A few of the models in towards the end look a whole like like the CL-400
>>64432308I believe the CL-400 SUNTAN followed from those studies.
>>64432308>>64432410Good thread on atomic airplanes:https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/nuclear-powered-aircraft-projects.855/
>>64407343The YouTube channel literally has Muslims coming in and saying it's Israeli propaganda but also saying it's all true lamo.
>>64408630>they wouldn't tell the POTUS anything You're a fucking retard.
>>64431744>NEMESISthis sort of thing has been around in one form or another since there are radarsas for "seamlessly", well, it depends
>>64432524I will say this, they definitely don't tell them everything. Apparently "need to know" applies even the to the president. Ask Clinton how it worked out getting into the EG&G/DoE archives. I doubt Trump could request to view anything with a Sigma clearance outside nuclear strike plans and deployment locations without being denied by the DoE.
>>64409777too soon, bro.
>>64409244>accelerate the climate change agenda By what? Changing the actual climate or making it look like it changed? Your Morons just hate any meteorological research.
>>64434549I buy that. The president is in some ways only a figurehead, especially this one. The last one knew a lot more due to his background with spooky, but this one is comcerned only with himself and how rich he can make himself.
>>64408623You know he’s the president right? It’s his call whether to reveal something not some unelected general. By definition The President can’t ‘blab’ about anything
>>64405983>AREA 51This is a meme.The usa now tests all 'Black Aviation Projects' in Europe, typically in the NW of England ('NORF') at roughly 3am to 5am.I see them over the hills near me regularly since I work nights.>you would not beleive the speed, accel and agilityThey're clearly unmanned and operate in swarms. so they're not large but they have powerful engines.>Built in UKWhat do you imagine happened to all those HOTOL engines the British invented?>not merican but merican fundedThe usa does not test any tech in the conus any longer. They can merge with commerical cargo traffic over Europe in the darkness and go unnoticed.>area 51 has been ruined by hollywood and is watched by mericans 24/7 so nothing happens there except ground radar testing<t. not at liberty to comment further>Everything you think is 'merican' is actually British. Get over it... fast.
>>64437438You are woefully incorrect. BAE even has sites here and they have some shady business practices according to the Borland guy
Most ufo/foo fighter encounters can be explained by g-loc syndrome and various sensory illusions:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensory_illusions_in_aviationWe also now know theres atmospheric plasmas like ball ligtning that can also cause hallucinations. We've ruled out any possibility that theyre interstellar ETs.Ive researched the ET encounters from the 50sThe "aliens" were using tech only known about in the 50s...
>>64441158>ETs>never actually have tech any more advanced than the tech the abductees know about other than flying machines>always involves some kind of hallucinatory experience involving altered perceptions (time distortion etc)Basically, theyre not real, people hallucinated them.Same as fairies and elves. Always involves some kind of altered state of conciousness from drugs or other influences.
>>64431744>all the "its NHIs/ETs bro" news stories comes from *navy psyops* department>navy psyops is telling people its ayys>schizos and gullible think there will be ayylien invasion
>ayyliens r demonsBoth ayyliens and demons are mental illnesses. Not real, cannot harm you. Dont do drugs.
>>64441184Mental illness absolutely can harm you
>>64441194Yes. For me it is struggle sometimes. Have religious trauma, almost died a few times, and drug induced mental illness. By some small miracle Im still alive.Be kind to each other bros. I hope the wars end. I think the technology is neat but I dont like how so many innocents suffer.
>>64437438>The usa does not test any tech in the conus any longerSomeone was testing something in NJ. Theres so many cheap drones now u can dismiss any "ufo" sightings.
>>64431744>give it the ability to project what is, in essence, phantom fleets of aircraft, ships, and submarines.In WWII they'd deploy cardboard planes and rubber tanks to give the targets to waste bombs on... Shit kicks off and your enemy depletes half their ammo at shit that isn't there.... Viable tactic...
>>64437438>>AREA 51>This is a meme.I postulate it always has been. A cunning distraction. It's a grid array. 51 is in a corner. You'd have the 'hidden' stuff in the center grid, where you have to cross over two or more 'no-go' zones to reach it... >>64441265>Someone was testing something in NJ.Proably response. Probing how, what. It wasn't just NJ. Globally your military assets gained attention. What you should be asking is what NJ has in common with the other locations....
