/tg/ is shit. Help me /k/ you are my only hope. How large of an army would it take to conquer a continent-sized Hive city with several tens of billions of citizens? Let's assume the forces attacking it are on par with the US military is terms of capability. Also no intentionally leveling it. It's too valuable.
>>64406764Don't.Even taking the normal sized city is very hard. The only way I could see it done is quick, surprise attack aimed at killing the military command and rulers of the city using either some backdoor (like orks on Armageddon) or Astartes style decaplication dropand just hope that population at large don't care who rule them.
>>64406850You get tortured and shot if you don't.
>>64406764You simply don'tHive cities cannot sustain themselves no matter what. They're feed by food collected from agri-worlds. Planetary production simply cannot match it up to itMost of the hive cities durning great crusade was retaken by emperor that way, just by orbital blockade and small show of force like showing that squads of marines can teleport to every corner as hit and run tacticAs for something akin to US army, It's the same. Siege and block any aid coming to hive city. As long as you're not alien that gonna butcher every human there, you can expect that governor either yields, or revolt of hungry citizen start and overthrow him to complain with you. Be it lower castes or nobles seeying the painting on the wall
There was multiple Hive Cities sieges in Armageddon series. Good starting poing
>>64406884thing in these sieges is that they're always attacked by xenos, so any diplomaic option or take-over is out of the question. IF we're talking about human vs human relation, sieges from great crusade era are more relevant
>>644067643 to 1 advantage over the defendersbe prepared to let the lower and possibly the middle hive burn after you "win" because maintaining order over possibly a billion souls in that density is probably not possiblehave local quislings ready to go when the fires burn themselves out
>>64406764just nuke the shit out of itor use whatever magic fantasy bullshit thing that's even biggerdrop an asteroid on it or something
>>64406903>just nuke the shit out of itOP said that was not an option ya dingus
>>64406921also void shields
You could use a virus bomb and wait for it to eat everybody and then itself. Just make sure nobody lights a match anywhere ever.
to expand on it, if you somehow lack IQ or common sense like the imperium, you can refer per sm chapter tacticsworld eaters, iron warriors, iron hands, luna wolves,dark angels, space wolves, imeprial fists, white scars are not eligable, they would wreck the place to get a winblood angels/night lords - the terror alone of space vampires/murderous horrors would be enough to make governor surrender. So terror tactics like retarded russians are doing irlsalamanders - precise strikes minimalizing civilian losses. You're loose a shitton of your army because of thatemperor children - as perfectionist, you'll aim for perfect clean victory. You'll spend a colossal amount of resources and time to conquer shitword bearers - basically conversion, show them that it's better to surrender and improve quality of your life than fightultramarines - your scaled up is figting. Will balance gains and destruction but you want to avoid itThousands son - lol magicraven guard, alpha legion - full commando style surgical stikes aimed at beheading any command and defenceas per "on par with US military" you just remove melee, teleports, orbital strikes(only USAF), heavy robots or rushes/open assaults of heavy infantry like space marines and then you have your answersIn majority of the cases, you're getting negative value from assaulting hive city with force. It was possible in wh40k because losing people and hardware is not an issue in the sheer scale military is operating on. Military on US army level would basically loose too much people and ahrdware in direct combat to continue>but I want a numberconsidering the "continent size" wuld be something akin to europe with tens of billion of citizens, and you don't want to level entire sectors, you need 1 to 8 ratio, even 10. And this is optimistic estimate. Do you have a 100 billion army avaible? And now calcualte how much you need to jsut block the city from outside help
also op, the more im reading your question, the more I understand why /tg/ neckbeards had problems with it and /k/ommandos will also have - there's way too much variables you didn't mention. The oerations of this scale has been done only in fantasy worlds, not real life. You can't lets just say, scale siege of bagdad and scale it up by 1000000x. Preparing a strategy to take over a country in modern world is alrady a colossal task. And you ask for continent scale operation in a complete cityskape. Cities are small dots on the map yet it takes a lot of time and resources to take them. And you ask about city of a continent size
>>64406985It's mostly a Guard endeavor, so no Space Marines.>>64407008I'm hoping Moscow get's invaded so we have a better comparison than dune coons.
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>>64407041yes I'm talking about what OP said aka US tier military. Marines chapter are only shown as per what strategy they used to acomplish their goals. Obviously you need a millions, even billions of soldier to acomplish what space marine legion could do
>>64406764Base Delta Zero