The ideal CCW for the average person is a snubnose hammerless .357.No I will not be entertaining arguments.
Shooting .357 in a snub nose is retarded. Just use .38spl
>>64408108ok cool how about you post yours instead of a stock image then
>>64408108I have carried a 340pd for the last 5 years, as a get off me gun its great. using Underwood 38 special low flash short barrel 150gr wad cutters
>>64408108You are noguns if you think revolvers are better than a gen 3 glock 19
>>64408108Ideal ccw is a glicky with a switchy
>lazy, antagonizing OP>stock image >revolver topicMmm, delicious. Waiter! More engagement slop, please!
>>64408461>yet another guy astonished to go diving in the septic tank to find even more raw sewagefrankly you don't even need the revolver, just a PSA 11.5 inch AR-15
>>64408458Honestly this is what the meta would be without the nfa. People cope about how full auto is worthless with strawman what ifs but 99% of the switch at close range videos I've watched have the other dude dropping like a sack of potatoes.
>>64408458based retard
>>64408108Entertain my glans with your tonsils. :^)
>>64408220I believe you’re referring to the Black Cherry coated hard cast…1000fps and 333ft lbs.
>>64408108>no less than a 120 grain bulletwhy?
>>64408108desu I love this gun. it had some FTF the first time we took it to the range but that has largely resolved itself after putting some rounds through it. it is only comfortable with the extended 12rd mag. either way very easy to carry.
>>64409293Can you fit all 12 in? Most of the reviews say it’s 11 tops..
>>64409400Just tested for you - I can load 12 into the magazine using a mag loader. I think it would be tough without one but didn't try. At the range I was getting FTF when full loading so I was just loading 10 at a time and I'm letting it sit on the shelf with 10. Anyway, still love it as a literal EDC. I used to carry a glock 19 g5 but once I added a threaded barrel and comp to it, it was a bit too unwieldy. Even prior to that, it wasn't a comfortable carry and at least one person claimed to have noticed it printing (I think he's a lying faggot but whatever, it was weeks after we were talking about EDC and he was like YEAH I TOTALLY NOTICED IT AT THAT PICNIC BRO). This one I can throw in my pocket with any outfit and go hiking with no issue - I only take the glock now if I'm not planning on moving a lot. Once the tax stamps for silencers fuck off in Jan I'll buy a silencer for my glock and then probably never carry it again.
>>64409468all that said, I prefer the glocks smooth grip to the s&ws sandpaper texture grip with no gloves. I guess if I were covered in mud and shit the sandpaper texture might help but that's not really my 99% use case. More of a personal preference than anything as I know some people replace the gen5 grips with the sandpaper crap so YMMV.
>>64409468Yeah I can pack them full with a loader but best I can do with my hands is 9 or 11 with the 10s and 12s, shits tough
>>64408111FPBP>>64408108It's fine to have the option for a .357 but in a hammerless snubnose its retarded. Just shoot 38
>>64409510yeah, I am hoping that leaving them loaded for a while will loosen the mag springs a bit
>>64408458this, but a fully auto micro draco
>>64408108The average person cannot control or tolerate the recoil of a .357 out of a snub. Even .38 can be too much for some.
>>64410203I won't even like shooting 32s and 22 mags out of a snubbie anymore. If forced to use one I'd pick a 22LR because >more cartridges, more opportunities to hit vitals>lighter recoil >cheaper ammo That said I much prefer my 22 autoloading pistols. >still have optic mounted on non-cyclic mass>greater capacity than revolvers>easier to reload >lighter recoil impulse >silencer host >and I like the looks better
>>64409200GOLD COAST SLAVE SHIP BOUND FOR COTTON FIELDS
>>64408467You forgot the g19
>>64408471Full auto is awesome and inherently useful. if it wasn't, the military would save millions on ammo and give soldiers semi auto guns. Any argument about it being useless is boomer fudd cope horseshit.
>>64408108>only recently learned there a aftermarket shrouds to make some revolvers hammerless No idea why the thought never crossed my mind
>>64408108>The ideal CCW for the average person is a snubnose hammerless in any caliber less powerful than .357 magFTFY
>>64408111>checkedIt's not really retarded if you can handle the recoil
>>64408115Kys demander anon, why do you seethe at stock images?>>64408461>the single terminally online k autist permaseething about revolversBuck broken
>>64411361>hamerlessI think the more correct term is spurless. Anyway, I'm more in the camp of "just buy a spurless and a spurred, then just pick which one to carry"
>>64411981This is an illegal nigger. ICE has been notified.
>>64412052I have a handgun, so I'm already ahead of 9/10 k tards. Also, when is ICE gonna deport me? You speds been trying to do it for years kek
>>64408108>being averagelmao
>>64408108I think you meant 32 h&r.
Explain to me immediately why revolverfags insist on .357 being the end all be all ccw cartridge, while autochads know that .45>9mm. It's a slow heavy ball either way so why isn't something like .44spl more popular?
>>64408439>slide goes out of battery on your ankle gun while you are on the ground trying to keep a youth on dem programs off your chest
>>64413249>Ankle gunGo to bed grandpa
>>64408108I had a model 360 for a while and while middling 158 grain magnum loads were brootal to shoot, even hotter .38 +p's were perfectly fine. I am a turbo wristlet yet i dont get how people complain about snappiness or bad recoil when almost everything that isnt a nuclear load in a half pound gun is manageable
>>64408108>the ideal ccw is a piece of shit OP doesn't own that recoils like fuck and gets the muzzle energy of a 9mm +pno, I don't think so.
>>64413071because it has the word magnum in the name
>>64413071You can get higher capacity or a smaller cylinder with a smaller diameter chambering.
>>64409293>>64409400I carry a bodyguard 2.0 as well, dropped my normal 9mm carry for it I was so impressed. Could easily quick mag dump a torso sized target at 25 yards and hit headshots while aiming. It's so light and comfortable you can carry pretty much 24/7 I even iwb it wearing sweatpants and pajamas. Don't mind the 10 round mag personally but I don't have massive hands so I still get most of my pinky on it.Never had any failures personally but my sights were so off it was almost like someone at the factory was intentionally trying to make them as off as possible and I had to get them aligned, the shop I bought it from did it for me for free but I've bought a few guns from them. perfect after that. Mag wise when I first got it I could only get 10 into the 12 rounder, but all 10 into the 10. Over time it loosened up and now I can easily get all 12 into the 12 even just with my hands
>>64413471>>64409293>>64409400I should mention I have the normal 2.0 not the carry comp, got it before the carry comp was around I've never fired the carry comp. Hoping that they'll sell a bodyguard 2.0 carry comp slide kit at some point since the lower is the same
Only disadvantage is it takes awhile to get used to DA only triggers
>>64413432I remember back in the 00s, I thought the new .327 Federal was a pretty cool load
>>64413410Revolver fags are just like 10mm, 6.5 creed, and 300 blackout fanboys: they're all noguns
>>64413714You're a literal retard.
>>64413752I personally know three people IRL who glaze revolvers, and none of them own a gun at all.
>>64413778Well, then they aren’t revovlerfags. Just regular faggots.
>>64408108My first gun was this in stainless. Absolutely terrible choice. I'm older, the new gun back then was the XD pistol in 45. That's what I wanted, but the gun guy talked me into a snubby. I could see a 3" or longer revolver being okay. Honestly, I'm pissed that no one makes a self-cocking revolver. inb4 mateba
>>64408220>as a get off me gunwhat does this even mean
>>64414009Illiteracy is a plague.
>>64408111this. you can get some great performance out of a 38.
>>64413493>>64413471Ah, I bought the carry comp. I fired a bodyguard 2.0 as well. honestly I didn't notice too much of a difference but I'm not an expert marksman. I can hit like a 15" target at 25yd but only like 75% of the time and definitely not head shots. my eyesight just isn't that good. can you do that with irons? I don't own any red dots so never used them much. The one time I used them at the range my accuracy was a lot better at distance but they're not practical for my use, especially with a bodyguard 2.0.good to hear about the mag. I need to buy more but they were out of stock at my local.Anyway glad you enjoy the bodyguard, I love it.
>>64414009It means no tactical delusions, intended for last-ditch, close-range self-defense.
>>64409200
>>64408108For the average person a 38spl is far cheaper and more reasonable.
>>64408108Revolvers are fat. I'm not buying pants two sizes larger to accommodate some tubby little gun. >>64413714>6.5 creedThat's a great cartridge. Granted, I was a 6.5 Swede fanboy before hand, so being the same thing in a short action is neat.
>>64415789If you're having trouble at distance shooting the issue can be not being used to such a skinny grip. Buy a hogue grip for like $15 bucks and throw it on a the range I bet you'll shoot better.I personally got the small tactical grip and just the bottom of it a little with a box cutterhttps://www.hogueinc.com/handall-tactical-grip-sleeve-small-blackThey sell grips that are actually for the bodyguard 2.0 now but I haven't tried it since my tactical one I got before they had them works good enoughhttps://www.hogueinc.com/grips/smith-wesson/bodyguard-2-0/handall-beavertail-grip-sleevesPic related my lazy box-cut tactical on my bodyguard. I wanted it cut so I could use the 10 round and have it perfectly flush without the cut it stuck over it a mm or two which annoyed me
>>64417084I'd love it if some gimmick could fix my skill issue but I don't think so. My eyesight gets blurry at that distance without a red dot to help accuracy, it feels like the sight blurs over the entire target. Happens on my glock 19 too.
>>64413410The energy of a 9mm +p out of a 6" barrelAnd then you realize 3" snubs are even better
*runs out of ammo*
>>64408108>must wear a bomber jacket to pocket carry>must go up a pants size for iwbSemiautos conceal better if you have to dress to get laid
>>64417243I carry a j frame often, mostly AIWB. I don't need larger pants, I use a nylon belt that isn't a gun belt either. Extremely comfortable, and because it's fat, it doesn't need extra length on the holster to counter the keel effect. I've had both a j frame and a g42 carried AIWB and the J frame is much more comfortable.
>>64408108Only if its a steel frame, the gun you posted says it cant handle .357 right on the barrel
>>64417240No, same barrel length.
>>64417476This has been debunked. No, tactical tranny, .357 is not "basically the same as 9mm +P out of a g26". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sw_UI2U2wcMore power does penetrate more. The short barrel does waste a lot of it and you would do good to carry a 3", but it does still penetrate more, and flesh and bone is tougher so in real life it could be significant (ie: quartering shots).Your glawk is only more dangerous to your right nut, penis, and femoral artery because a short light trigger with no safety is the dumbest fucking thing ever.https://www.forcescience.com/2004/12/can-you-really-prevent-unintentional-discharges/>In his first study, 33 male and 13 female officers of different ranks and years of service, were sent into a room to arrest a “suspect” and to “act in a way they thought appropriate” while doing so.>In about 6 per cent of cases, enough trigger pressure was registered to have fired the pistol had it been uncocked (that is, mechanically set for an initial double-action trigger pull). In about 20 per cent of cases, the pressure was sufficient to have fired the gun had it been cocked (as with secondary rounds). The gun used had a 12-pound double-action trigger pull and a 5-pound pull, single-action.There were loads of studies on this before everyone cheaped out on glocks saying that under stress/tunnel vision, NDs skyrocketed even with trained agents and the lighter and shorter the trigger, the worse it got. The finger did not obey the brain.And then that all got swept under the rug in favor of the "all of us gun owners are perfect human beings, if you doubt yourself you dont deserve this ~weapons system~" macho man mantra, and extremely uncomfortable kydex holsters (that dont actually prevent re/holstering NDs under stress)>inb4 dont you dare critiize my short light safetyless trigger this is anti-2A FUD!
>>64417585i aint reading alldat
>>64417585Just use a kydex holster
>>64417585There is a buried, essentially redacted 1988 FBI academy study that condemned glocks and similar guns for being laughably unsafe and unfit for self defense, police use, and daily carry outside of a military context.Coincidentally police have decided to treat anyone who does not fully cooperate (even talking back and asking questions, even shifting their shoulders to avoid getting injured while being cuffed) like an enemy combatant who deserved to get shot anyways.
>>64417585>>64417601Is that why everyone switched to glocks before you were even born?>Coincidentally police have decided to treat anyone who does not fully cooperate (even talking back and asking questions, even shifting their shoulders to avoid getting injured while being cuffed) like an enemy combatant who deserved to get shot anyways.But that's true doe
>>64417585>did yuo kno if u pull trigger gun shoots? that's why we need to disarm ourselves!
>>64417585>literally everything but actual facts9mm+p out of a normal ass handgun, not a shitass snubnose only retards larping carry, has more energy than .357 magnum out of a snubnose.>b-but that's not fair!Yes that's the point. Because revolvers are inferior, and snubnose is the most inferior.
>>64417598Kydex is not immune to holster obstructions. Kydex is not immune to your subconscious and autonomous nervous system from placing your finger where your brain would never.Kydex is just immune to not chafing your cock. It's maintenance proof not idiot proof. I'm surprised so many kydex holsters still accommodate suppressor height sights NO ONE FUCKING USES and neglect to put some thin suede or silk over the back. Maybe glock trannies like the cock chafing or lack cocks entirely.The closest you can get to safe pistol usage on draw and reholster is1: Long first pull (double action)2: Secondary feedback if the firing system is being actuated (external hammer, watched and thumbed)When a handgun is drawn for use under stress the chances of it prematurely or flat out negligently discharged skyrocket if the trigger is both short and light. Absolutely no trigger short of a 20lb wall completely prevents this hence the rules of gun safety, but any long DA pull at all goes a long fuckin way to cut back on it.These are not things to be debated. "Tactical decisions" do not actually mitigate it. They are facts of science. Facts of human neurology and the fact that despite your consciousness, that consciousness is operating with only partial awareness of the animal it's attached to. Striker fired pistols are extremely dangerous. SAOs with safeties are safer than strikers, DA/SAs are safer than SAOs, and DAOs are safer than DA/SAs, assuming all have exposed hammers.
>>64417585>whines about glocks>compares revolver to revolver instead of a semi-auto like a retard>weird tangent about triggersI am glad you don't own any guns so you won't hurt yourself or others.
>>64417619>t.microplastics infected looney troon zoomer
>>64417628You don't own a gun.>>64417626Revolvers don't have safeties so I don't know what you think your retarded point is. They're less safe than semi-autos.
>>64417626If you aren't trolling please seek help anon
>>64417617>THIS IS ANTI-2A PROPAGANDA!!!!I wasn't aware idiotic designed like light striker triggers were the second amendment"The right of the people, to point a hair trigger at their penis, shall not be infringed"They have their place, in an OWB holster, not pointing at any part of your body at any point during carry or the draw, and carried when the ONLY people who will ever prompt a draw 100% deserve to die in the next second. It's not a question of whether or not you should own and use them. It's a question of whether or not you are using them for their intended role.Even a DA/SA in your pants would be a considerable upgrade. Just don't forget to decock, or you might decock something else.>>64417619>uhm, a .357 snub is only a little better if i carry a much, much larger semiauto with even more weight in the grip, gotta have 17+1, just think of the tactical implicationsDon't forget it must also be the least safe semiauto design on earth otherwise it would be even more uncomfortable and hold fewer rounds, tactical timmy.
>>64417649>Don't forget it must also be the least safe semiauto design on earth otherwise it would be even more uncomfortable and hold fewer rounds, tactical timmy.If you can't keep your finger off the trigger you are not capable of safely handling firearms. Revolvers are just as unsafe as striker fired handguns and are prone to the exact same user error.>tactical timmyWhining will not change the fact revolvers were obsolete a hundred years before you were born.
>>64417635>Revolvers don't have safetiesSafeties don't matter that much because everyone practices disengaging the safety as part of their firing grip and few practice re-engaging the safety nearly as well (in fact, most SAOs safeties are designed to be awkward to re-engage).Length of pull and an external hammer to watch and thumb are the only things that consistently mitigate "negligent decocking" in high stress situations where the macho man mantras about being the safest and most elite oper8or on earth go out the window
>>64417635>They're less safe than semi-autos.damn i forgot how fucking stupid some of you are
>>6441764910rd autos have been smaller than snubs for 30 years, contrarianism is one hell of a drug
>>64417660>Length of pull and an external hammer to watch and thumb are the only things that consistently mitigate "negligent decocking" in high stress situations where the macho man mantras about being the safest and most elite oper8or on earth go out the windowIncorrect, all of that goes out the window in a stressful situation. If you are so incompetent and stupid, when your retard ass stuffs the snubnose back in your pocket you will shoot yourself.>>64417662You don't own a gun and have no idea what you are talking about. You will never own a gun.
>>64417659>If you can't keep your finger off the trigger you are not capable of safely handling firearms.Very macho mantra you have there, but the data does not degree. The way the human brain works under stress does not agree. You are not a perfect being. You are not a 100% conscious actor immune to unaware actions. You are not the super-man who will never make a mistake. You are a monkey, and even monkeys fall out of trees.>Revolvers are just as unsafe as striker fired handguns and are prone to the exact same user error.This is surely a comforting thought as you weigh the importance of half your penis vs. your chances of being jumped by an african paramilitary unit that will fight to the last man to take you in particular down when you were just going to the store with an IWB CCW. But the data does not agree.The human brain loves to overrate its projected capabilities in high stress situation but all fine motor skill training takes a shit even in simulated life or death situations.Police train HARDER to keep their finger off the trigger than you do.https://www.forcescience.com/2004/12/can-you-really-prevent-unintentional-discharges/
Why can't revolver hipsters post their guns?Pro gamer tip: they don't own any
>>64417660>If I'm a bumbling grossly negligent retard who ignores everything, surely my long trigger pull and hammer will save me when nothing else did!Nope, you're fucked.>>64417674>dataMost people who carry guns never shoot themselves. The data agrees with me.>policeAre all incompetent retards who can't shoot, can't operate a firearm, and can't manage a stressful situation.Even they manage to use glocks just fine 99% of the time and ditched revolvers long before you were born.
>>64417682>>64417680KYS GLOCK TRANNY FAGGOT, blow your fucking cock off mentally ill freak
>>64417670>well if i just take what you said and flip it aroundI am saying things based off actual datahttps://www.forcescience.com/2004/12/can-you-really-prevent-unintentional-discharges/Yes, a longer, heavier trigger does reduce NDs. Yes, you are more likely to blow your cock off with a glock than an airweight. Yes, the more habits you have built (pulling the trigger itself is a habit which is why it occurs unintentionally when the brain is short circuiting on adrenaline) that mitigate an ND, like hammer thumbing, the less likely it is to occur. This is what actual studies, and actual neurology, not your fantasy scenarios and ego, say, and said for a while before the people doing the studies simply stopped doing them because procuring glocks saved them several billion dollars and they realized overall safety did not actually matter given their position in society. What's a few dead officers and even more dead perps, really?In a civilian self defense case it's a little different.
>>64417684I don't even own a glock. However, I most certainly own more revolvers than you. They're fun toys, but that's all they are. Utterly useless as carry guns.
>>64417687Didn't read.>dataAgrees with me, most people never shoot themselves. Heavier triggers are more dangerous as you will miss your shot and allow the other person to kill you, while you magdump the crowd behind them.
>>64417687>Carrying le worse gun is... LE BETTER!Plebbitor mindset
>>64417682>The police are idiots. ME? I'm the most competent operator on earth. If you can't act perfectly you don't deserve to handle my highly tactical weapons platform.The police actually train significantly more, and better, than you do.>>64417689>Only six rounds? In theory, you could be jumped by an african paramilitary unit when the race war started by surprised. They would fight to the last man and you'd be fucked without at least 20+1 and a reload.
>>64417696>The police actually train significantly more, and better, than you do.No they don't. I've trained police.>Only six rounds? In theory, you could be jumped by an african paramilitary unit when the race war started by surprised. They would fight to the last man and you'd be fucked without at least 20+1 and a reload.Yes, that's right. What advantage do I get to carrying just five rounds in a snubnose? None. I get a worse trigger, worse sights, worse ballistics. So why would I do it?You can't answer because you don't do it, as you do not own a gun and are not allowed to carry one.
>>64408108>Revolver thread>Full of hipster faggots>People surprised there are hipster faggots in the hipster faggot threadEvery time
>>64417693>>64417695>>64417702>>64417703Post guns glocktranny
>>64417693>Most people never shoot themselves. My glock is perfectly safe since it's duct taped and super glued to the holster.The studies of people actually using guns say short light triggers are hilariously unsafe. If your brain has the trigger pulling habit burned into it, it will randomly fire that circuit before your conscious mind is aware. You are not 100% your conscious mind. Your conscious mind is a soul that struggles for control of a mindless animal.>Heavier triggers are more dangerous as you will miss your shot and allow the other person to kill youNice bait.Trigger weight has nothing to do with lethal accuracy at self defense distances. Also, you have clearly never shot a DA trigger. Even garand thumb can shoot the same splits with a 629 as he does with a striker fired 9 and he's a gigantic larper.
>>64417702>No they don't. I've trained police.I'm SOCOM.>Yes, that's right. What advantage do I get to carrying just five rounds in a snubnose?A better concealed gun that is immune to limp wrist and out of battery failures and is significantly less likely to be ND'd by a trained invidual.>I get a worse trigger, worse sights, worse ballistics. So why would I do it?I'm sorry you bought a pawn shop taurus or a vintage chiefs special and ball ammo instead of one of the new ones and a decent box of magnum defensive ammo. Shouldn't have blown your budget on trying to make your glock less shit.
>>64417710>trust the science goy, you NEED to disarm yourself!
>>64417703If I didn't want to talk to retarded faggots I wouldn't be in the retarded faggot thread.Someone has to call them what they are.>>64417706Already told you I literally do not own a glock. Here's my current carry gun. Now why don't you post a gun? This is /k/. "post guns" isn't an insult, it's a normal thing. Go ahead and keep crying about glocks and microplastics as if that's the only gun other than revolvers that exists, and revolvers weren't obselete before synthetic polymers even existed.>>64417710Nothing I said was bait. Heavier triggers make guns worse for no benefit. If you are too stupid to carry a gun, don't. I'm glad you made that choice and will never carry a gun, you would make yourself and everyone around you less safe.
>>64417720>Don't EDC a glock 19 pointed at my femoral? This is anti-2a civilian disarmement!Actually it's just saying that the least you could do is put a decent DA/SA, DAK, or LEM hammer pistol there because even if you forget to decock it would only be as unsafe as a glock, and a revolver is as safe as a gun pointed as your dick can get without it being unloaded.Keep the strikerslop OWB.
>>64417730>EVERYONE IS A HIPSTER BUT ME!>1911Anon I...
>>64417717>A better concealed gun that is immune to limp wrist and out of battery failures and is significantly less likely to be ND'd by a trained invidual.A trained individual will have none of those problems, that is only relevant to people who should not be trusted to operate firearms.>I'm sorry you bought a pawn shop taurus or a vintage chiefs special and ball ammo instead of one of the new ones and a decent box of magnum defensive ammo. Why would I waste time on defensive ammo for a revolver when they get worse ballistics than semi-autos, recoil more, and are useless? Double action triggers all suck and are awful, all revolver sights are garbage and should just be sawed off and point shooting used instead, you'll be more likely to hit something.>glockIt's bizarre how glock lives rent free in your head when your shit ass fixation was made obsolete a hundred years before you were born, and hundreds of different pistols have come into existence since then. But no, it's all glock. Do you think it makes you sound quirky? Or are you just as stupid as you act?
>>64417730>I am a macho man. I am the perfect operator. I will never, ever put my finger anywhere near the trigger unless I am making the conscious decision to shoot. This gun is not unsafe. I am safe. Anyone who doesn't carry a 4lb safetyless trigger condition one is an unsafe individual. The holster is the safety!The data, unfortunately, says this gravy seal mantra does not play out in reality. Everything we know about how humans operate under stress directly contradicts the "i am perfect, very smart, and have common sense, so..." lines.Your conscious mind is a little elf holding the reigns to a gigantic ape and when shit hits the fan the ape acts a bit faster than the wordy, shape rotating thoughtful little fag that thought he had full control. Every single human being on earth has a point where the monkey begins acting faster than the mind. Even if you are gigachad himself, your gun safety would 100% go out the window if you had a hole in your chest and a concussion mid-shootout.
>>64417748I haven't called you a hipster: you're just a fag who owns no guns but liked some random vidoegame with a revolver. Other people called you a hipster.Why are you so averse to guns? Why do you hate them and consider the posting of them a negative thing?
>>64417755>Dead on the streets because he shot xerself with xers ultralight trigger
>>64417750>I am trained so I will never fuck up. Ever. If you doubt yourself, you should just lay down and die right now. Safer gun designs are tactically obsolete.>Oh also I can't handle a DA trigger those pieces of shit throw me way off and a .357 snub penetrating better than a 9mm subcompact (or a .45aarp lmao) isn't worth developing some wrist strengththe irony is palpable
>>64417753The data says I am correct and you are a bugman. Most people never shoot themselves. The data says the safest way for a being incapable of conscious thought like yourself to carry a gun, is not to. I'm glad you followed this advice since you are not capable of safely handling a firearm.>>64417759I'll take my chances, very few people accidentally shoot themselves, 41% chance you hang yourself.
>>64417766>I NEVA MESS UP TRUST MEEE!Hope you like becoming a tranny, oh wait you are one now LMAO
>>64417755>"Strikerslop IWB is a bad idea">Why do you hate guns this is anti-2a propagandaDo you work at sig sauer>the p320 fires on its own? no, it fires when people fuck up and jostle their gun. a safe operator doesn't do that shit. stop being anti-2A libatrd.
>>64417765>guy who owns no guns talking toughYes, the irony is so palpable. You will lie over and take it because you do not own guns and are not allowed to carry them.
>>64417771>anti-2aSorry, that's someone else. I'm just here pointing out revolvers suck and everyone who likes them is a retarded faggot who owns no guns.>>64417770Yes, I'm glad an incompetent such as yourself doesn't own guns. Thank you for keeping everyone else safe.
Why can't revolver shills post guns, are they noguns?
>>64417781They are not even Americans.
>>64417772>>64417778>>64417781>>64417785>t.ranny plastislop loving faggot
>>64417766>Most people never shoot themselvesMost people also never handle an unholstered firearm under stressData derived from trained officers handling firearms under stress is extremely clear. When people actually train to shoot, the action of pressing the trigger is so burned into their brain that it can and does arise unconsciously faster than they can react and stop an autonomous, "flow-state" reaction similar to the well practiced acrobatics sportsball players pull without having to think. Longer triggers increase their chances of preventing an ND.DAO is safer than LEM/DAKLEM/DAK is safer than DA/SADA/SA is safer than SAOSAO with a safety is safer than SAO (or glock's pseudo-SA) withoutIt's just facts.Keep the strikerslop outside the waistband and don't point it at your dick, balls, or femoral artery. For what strikerslop was invented for (OWB kydex, anyone who prompts a draw dies) it is fine.
>>64417787I posted my all steel 1911. You have posted nothing.>>64417789The data says you don't own guns, post disregarded
>>64417789Is that why everyone that can choose their own guns use striker fired pistols?
>>64417778>snubs might offer full sized 9mm +P ballistics in a subcompact package and carry more comfortably even in light summer clothes, and function even when technique is compromised by injury or grappling>but>they suck because DA triggers are hard for meMilquetoast youtubers can shoot .44 mag as well as 9mm lmao
>>64417791noooo the data! Trust the professionals! Wait, not those professionals!
>>64417795But a p365 is more comfy in summer doe
>>64417791>Google "what gun for concealed carry">100% of results are gravy seal ex cops chanting "glawk!" and the "a perfect operator is the only operator that deserves are firearm" mantra to reassure people of the safety issues>only reason most people don't shoot themselves is because most people do not handle loaded firearms under stress, let alone under stress while injuredHmmm I wonder why the masses do not make the best decisions
>>64417795>Milquetoast youtubers can shoot .44 mag as well as 9mm lmaoCan you?>>64417804>nooo my science!lol, no thanks bro. Not getting the vaxx, not carrying an antique, not listening to cops, and most certainly not following the advice of nogunz.
>>64408108You forgot that revolvers have universally shit QC
>>64417797Yes professional researchers have more accurate information than a cop who carried and never shot his OWB glock for 10 years very smart observation>>64417801It really isn't but congrats on perfecting your stiff belt, kydex taco, with claw and wedge setup. I hope you never have to use that gun under stress because its design takes the ND rate from 6% under stress to 20%. You might want to get in the habit of removing the holster to reholster the gun, lol!
>>64417814>Anti revolver schizo is a /x/ faggotMight as well kys
>>64417824>Yes professional researchersPost the research.>>64417827>revolverfag is a vaxxmaxxed bugman who unironically shouts trust the science, owns no guns, and likes cops
>>64417824If a p365 is too heavy for you then you have never carried a gun beforeYou DO know why airweights are shit, right anon?
>>64417824>I hope you never have to use that gun under stress because its design takes the ND rate from 6% under stress to 20%Source?
if a revolver user simply tells me they carry revolvers because they like them, then i respect that. whats annoying are people who write entire books detailing how its actually really cringe to carry compact automatic with a red dot because you'll never be in xyz situation meanwhile the revolver user seems to know the exact way they will be attacked and that they will have 100% accuracy when firing from the hip through their jacket pocket, it HAS to be through the jacket pocket you see or else the entire reason for carrying a revolver goes out the window.
>>64417877For me, it's that they always seethe about glocks. Without fail. You can even post a gun other than a glock, their programming will reset in less than a minute and they'll be back to whining about glocks.
>>64417817>>64408220>>64411981How thick are your guns at the cylinder?
>>64409200Quoting energy numbers exposes ignorance especially in handguns. Energy numbers put a premium on velocity. Impact resistance is increased unevenly as velocity increases. Unless you have more energy in a pistol round than the strongest human punch (over 1000 ft lbs) its not a number that correlates to outcome terminally. Weight, diameter, velocity, bullet type and construction are far more predictive of outcome when it comes to pistols or slower moving rifle rounds. >>temporary cavity in gelThats how one really knows you are retarded.