just adjusted bow draw weight to roughly 35’ish pounds, down from 60. Nobody told me - but finger drawing a compound is *infinitely* better than relying on a trigger release I found out, and now I really wish someone did tell me sooner.Either way, I am now able to shoot the bow without a release and I have to share my results with k. Pic related is my cam set to be slightly looser. It is set right where I am physically capable of hand drawing, any more and it would be too difficult and any less it would not have as much stopping power.> no longer relying on a crap likely Chinese manufactured trigger release means you are faster to reload and shoot the next arrow.>having to hook and lock the release is one extra step in the bolt shooting process>can now shoot 2-3 arrows in the time it took me to shoot one before>reload speed down to 1.5 seconds from 5 seconds>no more risk of dry firing if release were to malfunction for any reason >one less piece of gear to carry this is probably a very niche subject matter so I understand not a lot of people will care, but holy fuck has this made a >WORLD< of difference for me The ONLY situation where a trigger release would be acceptable is where you want the maximum possible power behind the arrow for things like shooting through doors or cars, but a 30-40 pound arrow will still stop a human being easily even with armour and if it means i can shoot them **significantly** faster, im ok with the slightly reduced stopping power which probably isn’t necessary for most situations anyway.
I have been planning to test this idea for months but lacked the hex key multi tool to be able to unlock the cams, today I went out and got one for $8 and it’s the best purchase I’ve ever made for modifying weapons or tightening things up on the fly. I not only highly recommend that you keep a hex tool set in your pack, but lower your draw weight if you are an inexperienced archer and still rely on a trigger release like I did. Trig release setups are much slower to shoot, much harder to draw, more prone to malfunctioning/dryfire, cumbersome and it is stupid as hell that 99% of cbows come from the factory set to the maximum possible poundage out of the box. The number one most valuable thing i have ever learned for sure is how important the fucking limb torque level is, and how important it is to refine your weapon to your arm’s capability for maximum tuned shooting efficiency It makes complete sense to tune your shit, just as you would tune a car to get it running optimally the same thing can be done to a bow relying on it out of the box is the worst thing you can do
fuck theseAnd fuck the sturdier steel ones with the wrist straps as well I have had an arrow drawn at 60 pounds MANY times with all kinds of releases and the whole thing fires unexpectedly because the release mechanism snaps or the housing bends and allows the arrow to slip out If you are physically holding the string there is no chance of it dry firing If you own a trigger release throw it in the bin-And if you own a 60lb non adjustable bow that requires a release, get a 30-40lb bow instead
You are literally wrong on all accounts. A quality release is always going to be better than your fat fingers, spend 150 bucks instead of 10 and youll see the difference.
>>64408252>I really wish someone did tell me sooner.Whut? You thought you had to buy some silly gizmo to shoot a bow? >no longer relying on a crap likely Chinese manufactured trigger releaseHoly shit it gets worse. Did you just now learn that cheapass shit gimmick products are often worse than not using any product at all? How the fuck do you make it to adulthood not having learned that?> lower your draw weight if you are an inexperienced archerYeah. That's what *every* beginner guide will tell you. There's no new revelations here Sherlock.>relying on it out of the box is the worst thing you can doYeah, again, this is common knowledge. It's why archery shops exist: you can buy archery stuff anywhere, but a dedicated shop will do the setup for you. This isn't limited to bows or cars either, are you buying a guitar? That needs to be set up too.>>64408348OP has no idea what a quality release is.
>>64408252>Pink bow>35lbsNigga you gay af
>>64408252Target shooting? Sure, go for it. Just get a recurve for that but do you. Hunting anything bigger than a raccoon?You're probably not even going to puncture past the rib cage. I think 40lbs is the minimum in the US by law but really anything less than 50lbs isn't good for deer or boar.>but a 30-40 pound arrow will still stop a human being easily even with armourOh, you're 13 years old. That makes sense.
>>64408348I completely disagree, I’m sorry.>>64408499> Did you just now learn that cheapass shit gimmick products are often worse than not using any product at all? How the fuck do you make it to adulthood not having learned that?I think even with a quality release I’d rather use fingers. Like I said I’ve used plenty of releases before, from $5 plastic ones to $150 branded ones. Fingers are just faster. A lot faster.>>64408967>35lbsI’ve got it set to like 50lb now and can still draw it with fingers, but any higher would be impossible without a release>>64410125> You're probably not even going to puncture past the rib cage. I think 40lbs is the minimum in the US by law but really anything less than 50lbs isn't good for deer or boar.You are completely correct.I just spent a day shooting and found that 35lb would barely puncture the target. Put it higher to 50’ish and now it goes through every time, it’s a little harder to draw and shoot by hand but can still be done
>>64410125>Just get a recurveI am actually looking into a backup recurve, for if the compound ever fails in the field and I don’t have replacement cables.A recurve is a lot easier to fashion a primitive string for than a compound is. That having been said, a compound can still be restrung in the field if your limbs are adjustable.I think a basic recurve that comes apart into three pieces that can fit in a bag and be assembled when needed is ideal But the higher power output behind a compound makes that my first choice, and I would only use a recurve if the compound broke
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>>64408348I have owned three releases, a $70 one, a $35 one and a $5 one and I can say with full confidence they have all been shit. For the simple reason that they’re slower.It’s much faster to nock an arrow, draw and fire than it is to nock an arrow, get your release, carefully place it in the D loop, draw and fire. It’s five steps vs three, which effectively doubles your fire rate. I will revise what I said earlier about 35-40lbs being acceptable, you want more like 45-55 I’ve learned. But it can still be done.I watch this dude on youtube who sums up fire rate pretty effectively https://youtube.com/watch?v=RrFpV3sVxzwCrossbows are bad for the same reason trigger releases are bad. Sure theyre a bit stronger but theyre much slower, and if your opponent isnt armoured there’s no point
>>64411807the force this thing hits with even with no release is still quite impressive, due to the mechanical advantage the cbow cams offer it’s able to hit much harder than a recurve; which is fairly scary when it’s as quiet as it is https://youtube.com/watch?v=YkMYWZQ-aV4another good watch https://youtube.com/watch?v=rIqowt0hM_8
>>64411807i own toys and there’s a clear difference between a foam dart hitting you with 3 joules of energy from a toy and an arrow from a bow hitting with substantially more force and penetrating deeply into thick material, i wouldn’t call any kind of bow a toy, even made with a stick it can still be very deadly. there’s a reason they have been historically superior for generationsif you think a bow is a toy i don’t know what to tell you
>>64408499>You thought you had to buy some silly gizmo to shoot a bow?I did. I really did
>>64411818>Posts cheapest childs release on market >Fire rate>Opponent >Pink camo 5-60 adjustable youth combo Out of all my time behind the counter in the bowtech shop you'd be up there with the most retarded and that's against some stiff competition You clearly have some katnis troonerdine thing going on with this mentality and inability to use a single piece of gear you own or understanding of any fundamentals of compound bow shooting or selfbow shooting or the difference in between so I doubt you're able to take anything constructive out of this thread but no fat fingering a compound by dropping it's poundage isn't fixing anything but instead fucking up the consistency of your nock point, ability to use your peep which I'll assume isn't placed correctly, and any consistency in your release. Your consistency in target shooting will suffer and all you're doing is reinforcing bad habits and your own inexperince instead of growing skill and technique. Your sub legal hunting poundage bow and target points also is not a viable weapon in whatever prohibited person DQ'd from firearm ownership violence fantasy you have concocted in that head of yours.
>>64411799Did you...did you just shoot a bow indoors you absolute maniac?
>>64411919>do you shoot indoorsNo. that is an outdoor weather chair with a big home made target on it that is 150 X 150 diameter covered in layered blankets, with a big concrete wall behind it. absolutely no would I discharge an arrow inside haha and if you do youre retarded, I have pets and rent. If it hit a wall I’d be up for damages, this way is safer
>>64411919you gotta be safe where youre shooting 100% otherwise you end up on a reddit post or worse
>>64411908> Your sub legal hunting poundage bow and target points also is not a viable weapon in whatever prohibited person DQ'd from firearm ownership violence fantasy you have concocted in that head of yours.You don’t know what poundage my bow caps out at. It’s 70 for the record. I just choose to keep it at 45-50. I’m not DQ’d from anything either, you don’t know what else I own. Archery, which was the point of the thread, is irrelevant to guns.> fat fingering a compound by dropping it's poundage isn't fixing anything but instead fucking up the consistency of your nock point, ability to use your peep which I'll assume isn't placed correctly, and any consistency in your releaseThis was your only viable point set and I’ll deconstruct it. Dropping poundage slightly allowing hand draw is fixing the issue of requiring a release. Consistency of nock point is not a thing that exists, my peep and optic are both sighted in already for varying ranges and arrow drop, and my release is 110% consistent every time. I am at the point where I can just blind fire the thing and still get tight grouping at respectable distances >bad habits How is shooting with your fingers a bad habit?
>>64411908If you actually think a child can draw a 60-70lb bow you’re zoomer brained level deficient lmao.For the record youth models are usually 15-35lbs. They’re usually 20.If it’s not at least 45-50lbs or adjustable to at least 60, I don’t want it. There is nothing wrong with a 60lb bow, Joe Rogan uses a 70.This isn’t medieval England where people are walking around with 120 pound war bows https://youtube.com/watch?v=F5Qw_cajBG4This guy is a tank btw
>>64411908for the record I am well aware guns are superior but they’re also very loud and i still think archery has its place for some applications. it’s also just a very respectable sport
