ITT we talk about the stuff that you should NEVER have.Manufacturers, general producers (like turk-shit guns), or specific kind of items (Like Rambo knives) that one should NOT get. Because they are SHIT.I'll start with an easy one: These cheapo chinese compassess. Every time I come across one, it's some cheesy slap-on on some other product, pretending to be survival gear. And they all SUCK. I would not trust these as far as I could throw them. Seriously, I would trust a cut-off-piece-of-safety-pin-which-I-magnetized-by-sliding-it-against-a-piece-of-metal-200-times-which-I-then-slapped-on-a-cork-and-have-it-float-on-a-coffee-cup-full-of-water over these things. Because at least I then knew it is a semi-decent compass. But these things just SUCK!
1/4The Rambo Knife! The Ultimate Survival Knife!...Or is it?Rambo's giant survival knife was first introduced in the very first Rambo movie, "The First Blood". Notice that this movie does not have "Rambo" in it's title, so it is somewhat less known by random movie goers. The plot of the movie differs from what you might call "a standard rambo movie".In this flick John Rambo is a traumatized Vietnam war veteran (showing off all the symptoms of what we might these days call post-traumatic stress disorder) who wanders homeless around USA. He has very little goals and no long term plans, he only wishes to reconnect with some old pals from his former military unit. Since he is more or less a vagrant, he gets treated as one. Or more likely, he gets treated like a junkie hobo who is not welcome anywhere. When he arrives to some small northwest/midwest town, the local sheriff immediately takes an issue with him. Rambo gets arrested for vagrancy and carrying a "concealed weapon" as the sheriff finds his large survival knife.Rambo himself doesn't really want trouble, but once self-righteous backwater cop starts beating him while arrested, he snaps. The old traumas of Vietnam, and his special forces training kick in ...and violence ensues. Rambo manages to escape the police and flees into the woods. The plot of the movie is how Rambo just wants to be left alone, but the local police thinks he is a dangerous and violent nutjob and chases him around the woods. In this story Rambo is not so much a soldier but rather misunderstood and abused anti-hero who can no longer adapt to civillian life after the horros of war. He just can't stop fighting though the war is over for him. If you haven't seen this movie, I highly recommend it. This is not so much an action-packed gore-fest but rather a slower-burning thriller/tragedy.
>>64410666(fuck - this copy-pasta was made so long ago that it won't fit into more modern 2000 signs format. I may have to cut it down) ?/?But! That Rambo Knife!The knife is based on earlier US Air Force survival knife. The Original is pictured with this text. During the Korean war US military had got itself a fancy new toy; the helicopter. By the time of Vietnam war this had proven to be a good and functional transport to have, especially in thickly forested jungles. And so they were put into large scale use during the Vietnam war. But at the same time, new problems were discovered: It was noted that every now and then, helicopters fell out of the sky. There were technical malfunctions, enemy fire and just simple human errors and such that caused choppers to fall. And once a chopper fell into a jungle, it usually hit the branches of trees and often rolled over. They noticed that even when the crew of the chopper did survive the fall, they might get trapped inside the fuselage. The fuselage was made from light-weight materials like carbon/glass fibers and aluminum and such (depending on a model), and it might get bent out of shape, causing the doors not to open anymore. Or the whole chopper might be belly-up in a swamp or so. So the AF asked the pilot survival kits to be issued with new survival knives that would have a small serrated edge at the backside of the blade. The purpose of this serrated edge was that the crew might saw their way through the thin, light-weight fuselage and get out of the chopper. That's it! The purpose of the serrated edge is not to function as a wood-cutting tool or to "disembowel enemies". It's a rescue tool for those occasions if you are trapped inside a downed aircraft.
>>64410679?/?At the same time they asked if there was some way to get a hollow handle, so that they might stash some matches and fishing line and such inside it. The idea was heard by some knife-making companies and added into the design of the new survival knifes (although the military model was a full tang construction). This idea about survival gear stash inside the handle was copied as such into Rambo's knife (as some of the companies did produce knives like that at the time).The original US Air force survival knife is also much smaller than Rambo's über-large short sword. During the production of the First Blood the producers did some research into US special forces, as Rambo was meant to be trained as such and should know the techniques that they were taught. At this point the producers probably noticed the Air Force survival knife, and decided that Rambo should have one too. But since this was a dramatized movie, just copying the AF knife was not enough.The producers wanted A BIG KNIFE! They wanted a fuck-huge killing tool that would drip sheer macho overkill. So when the original knife was too small, they MADE A NEW ONE for their new movie.The Movie Producers contacted a knife smith Jimmy Lile in Arkansas and asked him to create a custom ultimate super large survival knife for the upcoming movie. They told him something like "See this AF survival knife here? Kinda like that, but WAY bigger! Like, the plade should be at LEAST twice as long!"And jimmy did what was asked since he was being paid for it. At the same time the serrated edge athe the back of the blade was overgrown into ludicreous jagged line of metal teeth (the original serration was much smaller so it wouldn't get stuck in the aircraft fuselage) As a saw the rambo knife is rubbish and you generally have better luck just hacking or whitling the wood with the straight edge than trying to use "the rambo saw".
>>64410687?/?This is what many people don't understand about the rambo knife: It is a MOVIE PROP! That kind of stupid-huge survival knives didn't really exist before Rambo movies (the ones that did were smaller and not so overkill). The Rambo knife was specifically made for that movie that introduced the concept for the larger audiences. And at the same time the movie created the demand for "awesome survival knives, like the one in Rambo movie, you know?".Real survival knives were smaller and less macho. The end result is that this kind of Rambo knives are not really suitable for any actual wilderness use outside weekend camping. Their construction is weak and will break easily in heavier use (especially in cheaper models - the newer ones have tried to improve this weakness but with little success). The Ultra-big blade is not really feasible for bushcraft and was not even in the first place designed for anything else than to look good. The giant jagged teeth at the back of the blade don't really have actual uses (unless you are trapped inside a helicopter, and even for that smaller serration would be better). It could be said that Rambo knife was a forerunner for the phenomenon what we these days call "mall ninja". Yeah, it DOES look cool and badass knife but it isn't really functional. Those with more experience in outdoors life, camping and bushcraft know this and will keep to smaller, more traditional knives. If you happen to like Rambo knife and want to buy it as a collectors item, go right ahead. I mean, it DOES look pretty wicked! And might look cool on a wall, if you are into that sort of thing. Just understand, that it's not meant for actual use and won't work well in the wilderness. It breaks too easily and looks stupid if you use it in camping.Understand that you are buying A MOVIE PROP, custom-made for a production of a movie. You are not buying an actual survival knife. The main purpose of the Rambo knife is to LOOK GOOD on silver screen.
>>64410703phew! Managed to cut it down to a form that modern 4chan allows.I wrote this copy-pasta way back in the day, when you could post longer-than-2000 posts here. And apparently thosw won't work anymore, because this new future is gay and crap.And yes, I know that Randall company made their survival knives (particularly model 18). And that also functioned as a significant predecessor for what we now know as "a Rambo knife". But those were never official part of US military standard issue, so it John Rambo would be familiar with one, he would have had to buy one out of civillian markets (I a mpretty confident that during production of the First Blood they would have found out about the Randall Knives, and decided to include them. because, let's face it... the idea is cool. Even though it doesn't work too well in reality.
>>64410531I used a $2 compass/thermometer keychain to help get myself unlost just the other day.
>>64410911In fact I'm still /out/ with it and happy to have it.
>>64410531lurking in an inderdasting thread
>>64410531Ah so truly irredeemable garbage? Yeah fuck those shitty compasses and especially fuck Rambo knives and really and mall ninja knife. And when I say mall ninja I'm not talking cold steel, I've seen enough high milage examples to say those can work. I mean those noname knives that look like they were designed by a 12 year old sold at actual mall kiosks or online. Fuck those flimsy hunks of shit with a telephone poleAs for gear I personally cannot abide by, Leatherman. Legitimately any other multitool does it better and probably cheaper too. I also hate Vostok. Yeah they used to be the poorfag dive watch of choice many moons ago but God they're awful (the designs are very nice though, I'll give them that). Just buy a Casio and be done with it, except the SGW-100 since it's compass barely works and the thermometer flat out doesn't unless you want to take your watch off and set it in the shade for 10 minutes
You should never have turk shit guns. Ever. There's no excuse. First of all they're all polymer striker fired ones. The excuse USED to be that they were cheap (400 or less) except you can get used glocks, smith and wessons, and new Beretta APX around that point, all of which will be better or more reliable. And turks have gone into making turkshit race guns now, people who buy those are beyond help.
>>64410938I have had so many mall kiosk ninja knives. They're like ten bucks and look badass like they could decapitate a million zombies with one slash, why would you not buy one?
>>64410703Yeah, no shit. Rambo knives were mallninja shit even in the 80s. I dont think anybody has ever pretended they were serious implements. Youre tilting at windmills.
>>64411091I did when I was 8. It was my dads from he was a kid. I broke it in the field by accident
>>64410666What fucking board am I on, Jesus Christ anon. Nobody begged you to leave a Rambo review, what the fuck is your major malfunction?? Where the hell are you copy pasting this shit from anyways?
>>64410955I bought 1, sold it to my local gun shop for 50 bucks- i originally wanted 70, but I wanted to get rid of the damn thing. It was gforce; the only brand of firearms I like from the turks is SAR
>>64410666In the original book (now hard to find) Rambo is more of a psycho anti-hero. He unleashes a guerilla war on the whole town and kills lots of people before the col blows his head off.
Megastar. Fuck you Duke Nukem, wherever you are, you're a cheap ass redneck crack ho and your gun fucking sucks.
