Fat Amy or Slim Amy?
The sloppest.
>chink dog is on his weekend butthurt spamming spree againGrim
>>64411207What's with the little chink ball sack?
>>64411322>planefuckers and degenerated closet faggots had been a disaster for the human race.You don't need to inject your faggotry to planes.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luneburg_lens
>>64411207fat, in fact it could be even fatter to increase combat radius for deep strike missions
>>64411322fat Amy also has a sacc it's just more >tucked
>>64411207Why are chinks and their shills so proud of an obvious F-22 and F-35 hybrid clone - and one with shit execution at that? I'd be ashamed my country wasn't able to design an original and indigenous design, and had to copy decades old homework from the enemy. Disglacefur dispray. Being much shame to ancestors. Will always be the "sick man of East Asia."
Yes anon, you don't need to worry (unironically). Those flying bodykits are using rusted Tumansky MiG-21 engines of stored for 60 years. It's all a fiberglass job with peeling paint because they stole most of the the polyurethane binder.
>>64411537of Soviets and stored*
>>64411207definitely not flat amy
>>64411526You’re a fucking moron. If “copying” and reverse engineering were so easy, why aren’t everyone doing it? Why are you a poverty ridden dipshit if you can some copy someone’s business model and supply chain?
>>64411891>she’s so heavy, gravity almost claimed hereJust like real amerifats
>>64411526It puts them a decent way ahead of most non western competitorsThey're in the same ballpark as countries like Russia and Turkey now
>>64411885They are basically. Korea and Turkey are both paying to clone Lockheed’s work. Any relevant European country bar France and Sweden bought F-35, and GCAP so far looks like the F-22 and YF-23 fucked and the kid came out fat. China hacked Lockheed and all of a sudden could do stealth. Russia’s stealth drone looks like what the US was building 20 years ago and was almost certainly informed by the RQ-170 downed by Iran. FCAS is probably the only major aerospace program going on that I’d say probably hasn’t been informed by espionage, subcontracting on a US program, or just paying for tech transfer.
>>64411907So why did none of these programs reach IOC? Why is it only China that did it? And did it twice?The truth of the matter is engineering is hard, fundamental technologies are hard. It’s good to see how other people did it first, but that doesn’t make what you have to do any easier.
>>64411969>why didn’t they reach iocThe Russian drone more or less did, being it had to be shot down over Ukraine, the others are all in progress. FC-31 had its first flight over a decade ago and is just doing trials to enter service now so I’d say the Koreans and Turks are actually making better time comparatively.
>>64411207>Temu F-35No thanks, I'll stick to the original, Chang
>>64411980FC-31 was a private venture from SAC that only gained traction when the PLAN decided on expanding their carrier wing capabilities.
>>64411892>>64411891You realize that anyone with a carrier can perform these perfect takeoffs and cherrypick them for their montage?
>>64412020Here I cherrypicked an F-35 using its STOL capability for an even better looking take-off.
>>64412012>sac>privateYou and I both know that’s a legal fiction. It’s a subsidiary of a state enterprise and the customer it was “privately” developing it for was the state. That level of investment doesn’t happen without a nod from on high
>>64412020Why aren't you showing Fat Amy taking off from catapult instead of the Super hornet?
>>64411207I like my planes the same as my women!>>64411399>fat, in fact it could be even fatter to increase combat radius for deep strike missionsYeah... keep eating that shit... GET FATTER GET FATTER!
>>64412045Why don't you show the chinaplane performing a STOL?
>>64412045Here's your perfect launch you so crave.https://youtu.be/tFGzgvgltMw?si=V0ytoVpHOChhMlzY
>>64411230>no tailgunnerngmi
>>64412094Because the F-35C isn't STOL either
>>64412034No, you’re stupid. Stfu.Which tender was the FC31 supposed to fill? Why was it shopped to foreign buyers continuously?
>>64412980>No, you’re stupid. Stfu.>Shenyang Aircraft Corporation (SAC) is a Chinese aircraft manufacturer in Shenyang, Liaoning and a subsidiary of AVIC.>The Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) is a Chinese state-owned publicly-traded aerospace and defense conglomerate headquartered in Beijing. AVIC is overseen by the State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission of the State Council.>State owned>Privaterorrmao ewen!https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenyang_Aircraft_Corporationhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aviation_Industry_Corporation_of_China
>>64413094State owned publicly traded company: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel
>>64413145are you pretending to be retarded, or actually retarded?
>>64413145State owned is state owned. The CCP controls it and its financial decisions.
>>64413165Like the US with all those acts and veto power?You'll drown in your own vomit if you think there's a capitalism-communism dichotomy at that level.
>>64413172rorramo
>>64413176>implying I move the goalpost.I'll repeat myself: >>64413145You'll find the US gov among the owners of intel.
>>64413185>the United States government purchased 433.3 million Intel shares at $20.47 per share, equivalent to a 9.9% stake.[133][134] The investment was structured as a passive ownership with no board representation or governance rights, and included a five-year warrant to purchase up to an additional 5% stake if Intel's ownership of its foundry business falls below 51%vs >>64413094yeah I can see how your simple bug brain thinks these two different things are exactly the same
>>64413145>>64413185You are genuinely so fucking retarded an MBA would be considered a genius next to you
>>64413194>The US gov just formalized its the financial "assistance" (gifting tax payer money)>lets ignore the CHIPS act, veto power, control through labor laws and all the fiscal engineering to control their investment decisionDelusional is an understatement, I guess your education did a good job at indoctrinating you with america-fuck-yeah.exe
>>64413172>Like the US with all those acts and veto power?What acts and veto powers in relation to you claiming Intel is the equivalent of a CCP controlled SOE?Also:>The government’s investment in Intel will be a passive ownership, with no Board representation or other governance or information rights. The government also agrees to vote with the Company’s Board of Directors on matters requiring shareholder approval, with limited exceptions.https://www.intc.com/news-events/press-releases/detail/1748/intel-and-trump-administration-reach-historic-agreement-to>You'll drown in your own vomit if you think there's a capitalism-communism dichotomy at that level.Does this make chinsectnese? Because in English, I have no idea what the fuck you're trying to say.
>>64413238>, I have no idea what the fuck you're trying to say.>he can't understand something that isn't a dichotomyMy condolences.
>>64413254NTA but you're pretending to act like you understand things way more than the other anon
>>64413238>Does this make chinsectnese? Because in English, I have no idea what the fuck you're trying to say.it's trying to claim that intel and chongpingchang aircraft concern are exactly the same because the US government has regulations and stuff. yes it's retarded, but that's what a lifetime of eating polluted rice does to an already simple mind
>>64411207Slim Amy definitely because it's a more streamlined designed and doesn't have that ugly ass protrusion where the engine is located
>>64413260I don't pretend, some categories of companies can't be assigned to that restrictive dichotomy. Most dual purpose industries have financial, political and legal input from the goverment regardless if the country is controlled by the communist party or the dual party system.Pretending that the dichotomy is relevant and the US gov isn't doing the same control and assistance with a different label is peak americanism that can be appeased by using the correct 'speak'.
>>64413281>Pretending that the dichotomy is relevant and the US gov isn't doing the same control and assistance with a different label is peak americanism that can be appeased by using the correct 'speak'.The US government controls the financial decisions, dictates what technology and designs, and makes the Board have political party members as controllers in Intel? Proof?
>>64413295>dictates what technology and designsThe US goverment is a major player of modern intel cpus because they were the origin of RISC advanced (the basis for all intel CPUs after P5), the decision to choose AES for AES-NI, and undermine security in consumer products (China is LMAO at the IT infrastructure being so unsafe by design). And the current position with leverage on the Semiconductor industry started in the 1980s to "fix" the "Japanese question". Now tell me, what does the chinese goverment does with their companies? replacing AES with SM2/3/4? or forcing them to not use imported chips for a certain things?> financial decisions, CHIPS act, vetoing investments in some countries are just that...The US doesn't need a CCP to create a surveillance state (social media, flock cameras, financial tracking, big data) for its citizens and other countries, banning the "bad influences" of foreign phones, etcBut I guess if you wrap the US gov with different words then the american will be appeased.
>>64413365thanks chatgpt
>>64413394>avoiding realityMy bad for breaking the 'speak' with wrongthinking
Holy ESL
>>64413365>major customer has input on product>this is the same as being directly ran by the government
>>64413429>deliberately ignoring all the vetoing power, directing investment and giving direct financial assistance, direct IP assistance, etcI guess non-dichotomies questions can't be mapped in the american mind, a victim of the conceptual shadowing
>>64412007UWOOOOOOTUMMY!EROTIC!
>>64413464>muh veto!you still haven't elaborated on what the hell you're talking about. you've also failed to show how investing in a company is the same as the ccp literally running the day to day operations of chingpong aircraft.
>>64413464Word salad isn't going to save you when you cannot even into grammar, chang.
>>64413503>running the day to day operationsI'm sure you have very convincing proofs and the personnel composition of those companies, do you?
>>64413525>The Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) is a Chinese state-owned publicly-traded aerospace and defense conglomerate headquartered in Beijing. AVIC is overseen by the State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission of the State Council.
>>64413555>supervising or overseeing is controlling, running and finally doingYou're deeply retarded.
>>64413575>still copingjust take the R bugshill, you're not fooling anyone
>>64411207>mfw the chinese plane steals the shark drawing from the F-35 and even that manages to looks like a cheap imitation
>>64413594>avoiding reality
>>64413626
>>64413659>the bot is limited to dichotomous thinkingNot even tragic.
>>64413690Now post the 2025 chart
>>64413690>trying to change the subjectvely implessive!
>>64413690Is this>"chinese suppliers"In the same way the chinese made those lulzworthy attempts at claiming Prada handbags or whatever are 100% chinese and you get the same thing for $110 instead of $1100?And, of course, it turns out that on the legitimate crafted European items, one chinese source was responsible for one particular zipper or stitching on one part of a bag?It was all lies?Thosr "chinese suppliers"?
Japan made a much better looking plane than the temu F-35 west taiwan made.
>>644136982025 National security scorecard.If you can the "numbers matter" bochure for 2025 then better (based on the NSS but with added graphics like that)...
>>64413787>FY24 So 2023?
>>64411207The Amy that actually is an Amy and not the Steve dressed as an Amy.
>>64413796Report of 2025 with data of 2024.You can post the 2026 NSS with the data of the current year, John Titor.
>>64413757anon they look the same
>>64413575>supervising or overseeingrorrmao ewen!>The State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission of the State Council (SASAC)>SASAC is responsible for managing state-owned enterprises (SOEs), including appointing top executives and approving any mergers or sales of stock or assets, as well as drafting laws related to SOEs.>managing>appointing top executives>approving mergers>or sales of stocks or assets>drafting laws related to SOEs>Parent agency: State Council of the People's Republic of China>The State Council is legally required to implement the policies of the CCP.Sure, little buddy.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-owned_Assets_Supervision_and_Administration_Commission_of_the_State_Councilhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Council_of_China
>>64413690Proofs?>>64413787Source?
>>64413896>coff tik tok coff>tfw the US does the same but without formalizing it as a country with clear rulesVely implessive
>>64413901Can't you read before posting? is right there"2025 NATIONAL SECURITY SCORECARD"lmao even
>>64411207Both. I've said this once and I'll say it again: Trump wants his twin engine F-35, so all he needs to do is task the NSA with hacking the Chinese and stealing the plans for the J-35. Some little payback because the Chinese stealth fighter program exists thanks to those 40 Terabytes of data they stole from Lockheed Shartin. Once we have those plans, make the necessary adaptations to use the F-35's engines. It will be a lot cheaper than re-starting the F-22's production line or redesigning the F-35's airframe to support 2 engines.
>>64413903The US didn't want China - a foreign country and adversary - owning an app that has access to every bit of data a person does on any device (including microphone, camera, contacts, and GPS data) TikTok is downloaded on and sends that back to the servers in China to the CCP, which they have to do whatever the CCP tells them to do by law or face punishment (gulag'd and disappeared)? Imagine my shock! You still haven't explained how the US forcing a foreign owned app used by the CCP to spy and build dossiers on everyone in the West as potential blackmail is the same as the CCP owning and micromanaging a Chinese company. Are you actually this retarded? Or are you just desperately trying to reach for any cope you can?>>64413910Neat. Not my place to chase down your sources. Post the two links I asked for, slave. CHOP, CHOP, CHANG! I don't have arr day.
>>64413935Trump was almost certainly talking about the F/A-XX there. In the same vein he went on a long ramble about how we just bought 28 new B-2s, meaning the Air Force probably just approved that number of B-21 purchases
>>64413935>exploit and copy them backThat's just playing telephone at this point and china is the kid who's half deaf
>>64413977>long text of ameriexplaining the goverment interventionismlmao
>>64413990>cope post full of angry bug noises
>>64414028
>>64413990Sorry the CCP lost it's best propaganda and spying tool, but your seething and coping on a Laotian throat weaving forum isn't going to bring it back.
>>64413990>it's the world's worst crime imaginable when you do it>it's just normal and not a problem at all when we do itCan they just cascade-strike the chinese dam system already?
>>64414092>Genocide cope
>>64414133m8 I think you don't understand who you're replying to or why
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>>64411207More like Fat Amy and Fatter Amy.
>>64414158Oh shit I see it now>if we just rip off the F-35 and make it F-22 sized, it'll beat both!ror.rmao.
>>64414164They wanted a 1:1 copy of the F-35 but chinsects can't into reliable, power dense engines. So, they had to use two to get the same power as the F-35's F135, while still being less reliable. And they needed to make it bigger to carry more fuel as their engines aren't fuel efficient either.
>>64414164Why not call the jina-35 a chinese F-22 instead? The similarities are right there.
>>64413980This is the same guy that spent years shittalking EMALS whenever he got near a sailor for some reason, but also seemingly never actually did anything about it.I do not think his word on military stuff means a whole lot.
>>64411207More like Fit Amy, when compared to FAT32
>>64412047That's disgusting anon
>>64411207U would prefer the F-35 because of the iPad cockpit if I'm being honest.
>>64417058*I
This is better a looking Amy than the j-35.
>>64411207Yuri
>>64417805Planefuckers are evolving.
>>64411399>>64412047BASED
>>64416798You have bad taste.>>64418344Agreed.
>>64419429why would I want my autism cured?having said that, I certainly wouldn't say no to a blunt and a fat goth bitch
