and the infinite cope that's about to come from everyone that got in too soon the last time.
you still don't even own a 10mm handgun but that doesn't stop you from saying its the best handgun round.now you have this new product you wont buy but will shill for mysterious reasons.
>>64411288Oh boy I love paying extra for 357 but worse>but 10mm nuclear loadsDon't hold a candle to what 357 can do, and that's the weaker option.Honesty this craze of rimless rounds in revolvers and lever actions just seems so retarded. If I'm already buying something obsolete why would I eschew the one selling point, big fuckoff rounds, for "ammo compatibility"? It's so wannabe manly, the gun equivalent of axe throwing
>>64411288If they make a 9mm, I'm getting one.
>>64411301I feel that for sure. Id buy a lever gun in 44 mag before I ever bought one in 10 or 9mm
>>64411288>$1600>Stainless and laminate look like complete shit together>10mm auto>10 roundsIt has nothing going for it.
>>64411295>not owning a 10mm
>>64411288Brutally mogged by a $100 pawn shop maverick 88
>>64411631>Being a noguns 10mm shillEvery time
>>64411650Post guns.
>>64411660>No timestamp
>>64411288This thing is going to cost at least 500 billion dollars
>>64411662Post guns.
>>64411288Why would I want a big gun that only shoots 10mm? If I have a big gun I can shoot rifle rounds, so I want rifle rounds with a big gun. 10mm can be shot out of a handgun so I'll take the smaller package that's easier to carry to shoot it if I only need 10mm performance.>>6441129510mm isn't a good all around handgun round. I have a 2lb steel frame Witness that still has a lot of recoil. I'm not gonna EDC a 2lb gun, it's not practical and doesn't conceal well. Unironically .40 is a good round, at least it's manageable out of a full size handgun, still sucks out of compacts. You have to scale up when you have a more powerful round, 10mm requires a big heavy handgun. Good for hiking where you want to put down something big that otherwise you'd have to lug around a rifle to put down.
>>64411288Can't wait for all the 10mm shills not to buy this! For once I actually hope they don't, why the fuck would you ever get that over an actual rifle?
>>64411753>you're only allowed to buy one gun
Wonder if it’ll cycle 40 s/w…
>>6441172010mm doesn’t recoil all that much honestly.
>>64411288Wow they made a worse FPC that's twice the price, how wholesome
>>64411288OK, but they should chamber it in 45 so people can load the snot out of 450SMC brass to beyond 460Rowland numbers. If any pistol cartridge would benefit the most from a strong action like this it would be 45acp. The basic mechanics of a tube-fed lever action also just lend themselves to short and fat cases.>>64411301>>but 10mm nuclear loads>Don't hold a candle to what 357 can doThey're the same fucking power factor, high-700's ft/lbs>Honesty this craze of rimless rounds in revolvers and lever actions...what fucking "craze" are you referring to, exactly? There's ONE 9mm lever action made by Taylors. If you're talking about the POF tombstone, OK, yeah, that's gay as hell, but what else is there other than gun law compliance models for countries which ban semi-autos?
>>64411781What do you mean cycle? It's a lever action? Or do you mean that the .40 cases would be too short to reliably feed?
>>64411784Yeah ok light load shooter
>>64411887You can shoot .40 out of 10mm handguns but they don't feed very reliably.
would you guys feel comfy in montana and alaska with a 10 mm and lever action 10mm in a remote cabine for a few weeks?
>>64412256yes although not an optimal choiceid rather have 308 semi auto and pistol really only a backup
>>64411693>no carbon dating
>>64411295fpbp
>>64411660>post guns>post silverhow retarded must one be to post a picture their valuables online for you's ?
>>64411693retard.
>>64411649this
>>64412799But how exactly? They're in no way the same thing
>>64412808price point baybeefuck gettin a brand new marlin
>>64412673Did you watch the movie hackers as a kid and think someones going to find where you live and rob you
>>64412814So, unrelated then
>>64411852It's mostly a revolver thing but I could swear I've seen at least half a dozen new revolvers released or announced in 9 and 10mm which just seems retarded
>>64411328Yeah if they sold this in 9mm it would be perfect as a plinker.10mm?Sure, fine, whatever. There are arguments for and against 10mm but I don't care about them9mm?One of the best plinking rounds. Simple as.
>>64411288>10mm Auto>look inside>it's a manual action
>>64411288This shit seems to only appeal to boomers and cowboy larpers. I'm sure the action feels really satisfying on a well-made gun but it's a straight up toy in the modern age comparable to a 22lr.
>>64413000I get why the 45-70 versions exist; they are self defense guns against Grizzlies because if you are salmon fishing in a river in alaska, there is a high enough probability that a grizzlie bear will try to steal your catch and you might have to shoot him. I think the idea here is that people who already carry a Glock 20 for this purpose will upgrade, but I don't see the point of sticking with 10mm instead of going for 45-70, especially considering that as a self defense gun, you basically aren't shooting it unless you have to, at close range(The fact that it is a gun for fishing is why it ia stainless and laminate)(The fact that it is 1600 is irrelevant. People in alaska are either dirt poor or extremely wealthy to the point that there is no difference between a 600 gun and a 1600 gun)
>>64411288Fallout 3 predicted this
>>64411288What is the point of a lever action in 10mm?It's a round optimized for service handguns and does a good job there.But when you put it in a lever action carbine, it starts getting mogged by just about every round available there, without a single upside.Shit, it even gets mogged by .357 magnum out of a long barrel because it beats 10mm in both case volume and maximum pressure.>>64411295FPBP
>>64412808CheaperMo powahCooler
>>64411336thats because a lever gun in GLORIOUS 44 MAGNUM is the correct choice
Levergun in 10mmI'd like to see retards that hype up 10mm actually post a 10mm they own.
>>6441318910mm is 37,500psi and .357 is 35,000. That's pretty close, and the case capacity is about the same percentage difference to the advantage of .357. I'd call it a pretty close tie desu.
>>6441323544 magnum leverguns mostly have thin walled barrels that flop around. The S&W that I never see in any stores is an outlier, it looks pretty stout vs the mag tube here.
>>64413502>10mm is 37,500psi and .357 is 35,000CIP .357 max pressure is 44,000 psiCombined with the ~9% higher case capacity it definitely beats 10mm.
>>64413189actually it looks like .357 completely stomps 10mm with identical bullet weights, but I doubt the barrels used for testing were the same length.10mm - https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=114.357 - https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=541
>>64413519fuck outta here with your weird euro pressure ratings, saami or nothing
>>64413544>fuck outta here with your weird euro pressure ratings, saami or nothingThe SAAMI value was retroactively cucked due to corporate meddlingBefore 1995 the .357 SAAMI pressure was about 20% higher and roughly identical to the one listed in CIPIt only got lowered after S&W pestered SAAMI about it, because 45k psi .357 rounds were fucking their Model 19s up
>>64411288>Lever gun>Use an itty bitty underpowered autoloader roundWhy?
>>64411631My wife C2
>>64411720>10mm isn't a good all around handgun round.Wtf it's a great all around handgun round. >10mm requires a big heavy handgun.G29 exists and is almost the same exact size as a G19, just 1/8 an inch thicker.>Unironically .40 is a good round.40 is cope in almost all aspects. Picrelated.
>>64413722G29 also fucking sucks. 10mm shills like yourself are just a bunch of autistic noguns teenagers who peddle numbers like its video game stats.
>>64413751>G29 also fucking sucksFor what reason
>>64413756>shitty short grip>still wide as all shit>stock trigger, like all glocks, is shit>stock sights, like all glocks, are shitJust buy a G20 or G40 if you want a 10mil glogg, the stubby 10 is just straight ass
>>64411693Based timestamp poster
>>64413776>shitty short gripFair. Get a grip extension and it's fine. >still wide as all shit1/8" wider than a G19. It's literally just an 1/8". Look at a measuring tape, it's negligible.>stock sights, like all glocks, are shitReplace them if it's that much of a concern for you on your compact CCW pistol.Does it not still completely own literally every 9mm, 40, or 45 pistol of similar dimensions no matter how many FPS it loses compared to a G20 or G40?
>>64413571plinker gun but not homosexual 22lr
>>64413831>45 cpr>plinker gun
>>64412026lol probably more of a perspective thing than anything involving how hot the 10mm ammo I shoot is…. But really even with the hot stuff in a polymer gun 10mm isn’t all that bad. You should try shooting more than just 9mm
>10 millimemerFucking why. Just use 41 magnum and call it a day. Also, where the hell is semi auto PCCs chambered in 10mm magnum and 45 winchester magnum?
>>64412256I guess, so long as I get a comfy holster for the handgun, but if I'm going to carry a rifle I may as well use a rifle cartridge.
>>64413816I mean of the glocks it's one of the better ones but I just don't like glocks. They all feel awful to hold. You are right though, it shits on the other 3 options>>64413831>plinking>with 10mmYou might be onto something if you said 9 but why the fuck are you plinking with 10? Do you hate money?
>>64413982>Just use 41 magnum"Just avoid guns chambered for this caliber you will have a hard time finding in stock reliably at gun stores nearby, and start using guns chambered for this other caliber that you will NEVER find at any location in person, and that 90% of shooters have never even heard of!"
>>64411288I wish they would go back to making their model 60's and XL7's again, those were great guns.>>64411649Fuck, that type of shotgun has been making rounds on the 'net lately! I have 2 of those- best purchases of my life, and I'll probably hunt rabbits and squirrels w/ it tomorrow.
>>64413722Stop posting your own stupid screencap. Nobody cares.
What is it about the existence of 10mm that makes autists seethe so much?
>>64411852>>same fucking power factor, high-700's ft/lbsAn absolutely meaningless metric for use in comparison of pistol bullets. Also you said "power factor", thats childlike video game nonsense. The comparison of 10mm and 357 magnum is an interesting one. Especially when done "correctly". 357 magnum out of a full barrel and the same for the 10mm. But what they are doing is quite different on target. Or more precisely how they achieving what they are doing AND where and what each has an advantage in terminally is very different. Power factors, energy figures, they are not reflective of terminal performance when it comes to handguns.
>>64413722Shut the fuck up faggot. The difference is less than 100fps in a few cases and the same in a couple others. Armscorp shit was advertised at 1000fps for 10mm and tested out slower than that just off the top of my head. 10mm IS hotter than .40. But unless you are paying attention to what you buy there are many examples where they are very close. 180g at 1005fps and 180g at 1095 are near as makes not difference the same terminally. >>muh little pistolNobody who isn't full fledged retarded uses 10mm in a compact. Thats fucking dumb.
>anachronistic large loop lever for fat alcoholic boomer hands
>>64414697>>Doesn't know what a glove loop is...Gets cold in Appalachia in February
>>64411328>make a 9mm>that feeds from Sten mags on the sideI'm in.
>>64414706Give one (1) example of a gay faggot large loop from the 1800s. Spoilers: you can't.
>>64414697It's in 10mm and stainless steel, nothing about it is period correct you fucking knuckle dragging vanta black giganigger
>>64414737Oh. You think guns are some sort of time travel accessories?
>>64414838>his gun didn't come with a flux capacitor
>>64411288well it can probably shoot .40sw which is kind of interesting
>>64414697large loops are for spinning it nigga
>>64411693>writes like a sissy
>>64411288>buy a Glock 20>throw it into an ATF legal conversion kit that comes with a 16 inch barrel, foregrip and stock>suddenly you have a legal 10mm SBRHuh???
>>64413966>454 casullThis guy fucks
>>64414277>implying 41 magnum isnt well knownMy local bass pro sells that shit. You should stop being a nogunz.
>>64411288If it helps lever guns go down in price I am all for it. Also, if it lets me get a .357 mag 1894 from a maker I trust, that'd be even better. However, I don't think there is really a resurgence as much as a slight spike in guntuber interest. Looking at my two local gunshops, and a my friend's local gun shop, and my father's local gun shop (KY, WY, and WA) there does not seem to be any difference to stocks, prices, or variety.
>>64414706>>>Doesn't know what a glove loop is...Doesn't know zero big loops existed until the 50's.>Gets cold in Appalachia in FebruaryI guess it never got cold in Appalachia in February until the 1950's, and somehow the people who thought about it getting cold in Appalachia in February were in California, and they all happened to be filming movies and TV shows.This has come up before, when it gets so cold you need to wear thick gloves which don't fit in the loop, you don't put your hand IN the loop, you put your hand ON the loop, and you only put your trigger finger through the trigger loop.Thick gloves make finger abduction difficult, but don't interfere with finger flexure. If you put a heavy glove on, on a straight-wrist stock, and put your fingers through the loop, you will need to use effort to keep your finger off the trigger because the shape of the glove will be pulling it downwards towards the end of the trigger shoe.If instead you rest your hand ON the loop, you have far less abduction to reach the trigger with your index finger, which is much safer.Big loops are just shit.
>>64411288>here's an overpriced gun>ugly>over a century out of date>now in a caliber you'll never findWow! I can't wait for my new cerakote and poly Colt Navy in 7.5x57 French! Retard.
>>64416568The stainless + gray wood combo is the boomer gun owner equivalent of the wine mom interior decor.It's so fucking ugly and soulless it's unreal.
>>64416568>>now in a caliber you'll never find10mm? How can't you find it?>>64414595They're the same fucking performance level, 9x25Dillon is basically 357 and it's nothing more than 10mm necked to .355.I don't care if the words "power factor" offend you in some semantic sense.
>>64411328Get a .357 and plink .38 through it all day long. Pretty much the same difference, but you have .357 when you want it.But, I agree that 9mm would be awesome. I'd get one, eventually, when my budget allows. And, I'm well-stocked up on options, so it's hard to justify ... apart from the fact I do have 9mm handguns, so nice companion option for innawoods and the zombie apocalypse.
>>64412256Yes, I would. Nothing I couldn't kill with that combo, either food or protection. I'd want a choice of ammo options is about all.I'd also be just as comfy with .357, which is a bit cheaper to invest in. I've got the wheelgun, but it would not be bad insurance to have 12+1 or 15+1 10mm as the carry everywhere including the latrine self defense weapon.
>>64411693Based timestamp poster but 10mm is still kinda gay.
>>64414640Look. I get it. You own a .40 G27 or something, so you feel obligated to defend your poor decisions.It's okay anon, we all make mistakes in life. You can move forward really easily - sell the obsolete mistake purchase and buy a G29 or G20.Nobody is forcing you to hang on to trash, it's all in your head.You can even finish off the remaining weak .40 rounds you've got in your new 10mm without worry because they're so underpowered even having the wrong headspace in a 10mm chamber doesn't matter!
>>64415827>local bass pro sells that shit.You've found a bizarre anomaly stocking bullets produced twenty years ago and stocked for three guns that exist in the surrounding 200 miles.
>>64411301Want a fun gunWant to shoot gunGet it in easy to get round9mm and 5.56
>>64416351You're a light shining in the darkness, anon.
>>64411336I kind of want one in .45 Colt
>>64415751>16 inch barrel and stock>SBRHuh???
