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>America vs Iraq=manuever warfare
>Ukraine vs Russia=attrition warfare
>Israel vs Iran=?
whats a war were you Just lob explosives at each other called?
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>>64412275
>Ukraine vs Russia=attrition warfare
its still a maneuver war

>Israel vs Iran=?
they dont even share a land border
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>>64412275
>whats a war were you Just lob explosives at each other called?
Air war.
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>>64412277
>its still a maneuver war

i don't see much maneuvering...
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>>64412298
>i don't see much maneuvering.
russians are litertally trying to defeat ukranian positions by maneuvering around them
their playbook has been to encircle on ukranian flanks and force the defenders to withdraw once their positions are untenable
while the ukranians respond to russian maneuvers with their own

neither side is simply sitting still and grinding the enemy down through sheer persistence, they are trying to pin enemy forces down while their own moves to a more advantageous position

there has never been a purely attrition based war in modern history, the term was a face-saving cope from generals who tried to justify lost battles by saying it also cost the enemy
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>>64412275
It's just siege warfare on a larger scale.
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>>64412275
What in the reddit is going on in that image.
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>>64412309
when you're going slower than a snail's pace, it's not maneuver warfare, it is attrition.
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>>64412387
>it's not maneuver warfare
they are literally maneuvering on the battlefield
both sides hinge on outpointing the enemy rather than simply losing men slower than the enemy

attrition warfare has never existed, the goal of every war has been to get better positions than the enemy
no one has ever deliberately fought a battle contingent on simply causing losses to the enemy as a specific outcome
this includes WW1 and the current ukraine war
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>>64412395
speed and surprise are core tenets of maneuver warfare. russia does neither. slowly taking ground is not maneuver warfare.
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>>64412409
>slowly taking ground is not maneuver warfare.
their goal is not to simply cause higher losses on ukraine than they are taking, it is to out maneuver the enemy on the battlefield
the slow progress is a result of their botched executiuon, but it is not attrition warfare
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>>64412395
>maneuvering
Manouevre warfare has nothing to do with "war of movement" which is what you're conflating it with. Manouevre warfare is defeating the enemy's plan without destroying his forces. The fact that, after all these years, people like you still don't get this is why countries like Russia are still practicing attritional warfare.
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>>64412412
>out maneuver the enemy on the battlefield

they're not. they're overwhelming positions.
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>>64412414
>they're overwhelming positions.
they dont simply just overrun positions with constant direct assaults
they go with flanking, pinning, and shaping attacks to eventually put the defender in an untenable position
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>>64412417
try learning what maneuver warfare actually is instead of inferring the meaning from the name.
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>>64412395
>it's maneuver warfare because your troops are physically moving around the AO
laughing at your mental retardation
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>>64412451
they are not simply grinding enemy numbers down like attritional warfare would imply, they are moving to create a positional advantage over the enemy
maneuver warfare has always been the default and attritional warfare has never existed because no one has ever fought a battle solely to deplete enemy numbers
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>>64412464
>they are not simply grinding enemy numbers down like attritional warfare would imply

yes they are. that is why the front lines have barely moved in 3 years. they attempted maneuver warfare in the beginning and gave up.
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>>64412464
Bro they've moved the distance of a two hour walk in two years
It is not maneuver warfare kek
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>>64412395
>no one has ever deliberately fought a battle contingent on simply causing losses to the enemy as a specific outcome
Falkenhayn says you're an idiot who slept through history class.
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>>64412464
You are a retard if you think thats how the last 4 years went
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>>64412275
>Israel vs Iran
Mother of all color revolutions combined with early 2001 Afghanistan tier bullshit. If the Israelis can convince the Iranian youth that all they want is a non batshit insane government and will leave them alone otherwise (like every other Middle East country) and they can provide air support and SF support while Iranians do the heavy lifting. It also helps that the Persians as a ethnic group really have no beef with Israel and only see them as a proxy of Americans.
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>>64412275
Special Military Operation
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>>64412275
>whats a war were you Just lob explosives at each other called?
A womanly slap fight.
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>>64412275
Monkeys throwing their shit warfare.
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>>64414855
The regime in iran has battalions of foreign fighters to put down rebellion internally. Hezbollah and Afghans and Iraqi Hezbollah. They've already been used repeatedly inside the country.
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>>64412464
>no one has ever fought a battle soley to deplete enemy numbers
This was the expressed intent of the germans for verdun
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>>64412395
>is a fucking moron
>confidently opines on topics to which he is 100% ignorant
you hate to see it
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>>64412464
Iwo Jima?
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>>64412275
It's called "Performative". I don't know if you know this but Iran is in bed with Israel. Thing is, Israel is also in bed with the Saudis. And Turkey too. All while forcing daddy USA to watch and give gibs. Israel is such a slut and yandere town bicycle of the Middle East.



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