What would warfare be like if witches and wizards (the kind that fly on brooms, cast spells, make potions, etc.) were real and integrated enough in their respective national and ethnic communities to enlist and fight in wars out of patriotic fervor?
>>64419646Depends on so many unmentioned factors that the question as posed might as well be a pointless argument starter.
If they are responsible for a large or minor part of the military force, they will be thoroughly targeted for covert operations such as defection, blackmail, and assassination even in peacetime.
>>64419646Is coffee good for you?
>>64419675> what did she sit in>is this AI>wouldn't those loop things on the bottom of her feet hurt to walk with?
>>64419814Who are you quoting?
>>64419646>What would warfare be like if witches and wizards (the kind that fly on brooms, cast spells, make potions, etc.) were real and integrated enough in their respective national and ethnic communities to enlist and fight in wars out of patriotic fervor?That's easy, you get the floaty ones to drop bombs
>>64419689What if they're powerful wizards and can turn whole enemy armies into a pack of yorkshire terriers?
If they were like walking nuclear weapons, they would first be feared and neutralized by governments and their people.
>>64419855If they were able to instantly send and receive messages from the frontline. Then there would be one as attache for all brass. The entire creation of radio messaging would change.
>>64419646Witches would just be barracks bunnies and gay top brass would tell wizards not to liquify people from the inside out with magic or do other useful/cool shit because muh war crimes, thus making them kind of useless
>>64420114What if, theoretically in this alternative world, people became witches and wizards by staying virgins until they turned 30? Meaning witches literally couldn't be barrack bunnies without losing their powers.Imagine the sexual frustration of a 30 year old virgin mixed with powerful magic, shit would be terrifying.
>>64419646Spam thread and the answer is obvious, pic related.
>>64419654I can't guess or imagine the rest of the context
>>64420151>Gachakys
>>64419646Why is Kiki so fat?
>>64420169You totally missed the point didn't you?
>>64420114Witches would be field medics and maintain the makeshift barrack hospitals. potions and hex removals and shit.
>>64419718It makes me agitated for some reason so I avoid it
>>64419718Only with grape fruit
>>64420165How do you visualize thing if not with picture in your mind? Text?
YWN lead a squad of child soldier mages in defense of glorious Alderode
>>64420532
I'll play; Here is your most important strategic asset: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve6z2w0ax-0
>>64420165Whatever I come up with is irrelevant to the question at hand because there's so many potential levels of "Wizard" and "Witch" it's not even funny.>How rare is it to be a wizard or witch?>How easy is it to become one?>Do they have a binding pact/social tradition limiting their ability to train more?>How powerful are their spells?>What kind of magic system are we using?OP Gave us nothing except they brew potions and fly on brooms.
>>64419646Stingers, Stingers everywhere
>>64419817>>>/jp/
The cool thing about Unsounded's magic system is that it does have rules and principles, it's not just "waggle fingers and plot happens". You can issue commands to the khert, arbitrer of reality and it can do things like change the settings on object, so if you "aim at skin" and change it to liquid from solid you can skin an enemy alive. But too much messing about causes the khert to become agitated, and if you format a command wrong it's you who gets liquified or worse
>>64420169>gachathe fuck are you on about
A world that exists on the remains of an older one, that died when the gods got bored with their earlier creations
>>64420662But it's cool, the remains of ancient beasts can hold spells which can be used to make cool stuff, like aspect mines that change the contour settings of living flesh it comes in contact with
>>64420665forgot pic
>>64420670Mind where you step!
>>64420672I was waiting for one of the kids to die a horrific death.
>>64420550Exactly this.And you even left out the most important thing: what's the "catch" to magic in this world? Or in other words, what's the limiting factor? Is it physically exhausting? Does it cause mental strain? Physical harm? How many of what kind of spells can someone cast in a day, and how long does it take them to recover before they can do it again?>potionshow long does it take to make them? how limited are the ingredients? This is like asking "how much does a beverage cost" without specifying if you're talking about tap water or some uber-fancy cocktail made with rare spirits.
>>64420757an other important factor is how scalable it is if you need to be born with the gift of magic even if it's easy to learn and powerful there is a hard limit on how much you can haveif you learn magic even if it's harder to do and not as powerful you can now have as much as you are willing to put resources into training more magic users the same with potionscan you grow the ingredients and brew them a vat at a time or do they require free range inputs and an artisanal brewing ritual per flask
>>64420757> what's the "catch" to magic in this world? Or in other words, what's the limiting factor? OP will never answer because it's BS slide/power fantasy thread and we are all idiots for responding to it.
>>64420814>all idiots for respondingit's not stupid if you are having fun
>>64420814Wrong.Looking at the OP it was obviously made to get us to talk about pregnant women, and nothing else actually matters.
Explosives-focused forces should wear large witch hats
>>64419646Is that... Kiki???
>>64420712None were harmed, have faith...
>>64421113Spellmaster Adelier has never lost a lad!!
In the magic system of Unsounded, wrights (Magicians) can move around aspects such as solidity, pressure, momentum either by stealing it from an available object or with aspect batteries. You need to know the name of a thing in the language of the khert in order to cast on it, so military grade doors, for example, can be made of composite materials that are hard to identify
>>64421203Why are you reading this gay shit?
>>64421210Not him, but it is pretty good. What would you rather read?
Here we see a demonstration of martial pymary by master Keon "crabhands", note the large vase to his left on the second panel, the wright takes the contour aspect of the source and applies it to his target, who is crushed down to the shape of the source object.>>64421210Considering how big of a fujoshi the author is it could be a hell of a lot gayer
>>64421217Not him, but I will give my 2 cents.I am not a huge fantasy guy, but obviously Tolkein is the best of all time.A Canticle for LeibowitzPerhaps a tad childish, but Eragon will always be a fond series for me, and has a relatively grounded magic system that is very similar to the one here.Patrick Rothfuss' Kingkiller BooksAll of the above come soundly recommended by a random anon on /k/
>>64421217Something that isn't fucking gay.
>>64419646It'd be weather wars 24/7. Just constantly spelling and dispelling each others' storms, droughts, blizzards, hurricanes etc. trying to ground the airforce, keep the navy at port and starve/cook/freeze the civilian population. Camo nettings, berms, barriers etc. fucking everywhere to stop wizards from fucking obliterating anything in LOS. Every engagement is forcing the enemy to get their rare and expensive magic guy within melee range of 100+ expendable grunts with enough machineguns, explosives and poison gas to overwhelm them.Lasers, ultra-right lights and flashbangs everywhere at all times. 90% of magic is being able to see what you want to effect, so all battlefields come equipped with eye-seeking laser sentries. Wizards live in constant fear that one day they'll be attacked. Of course it's just one guy, but that one guy suddenly produces a Retina-Render 9000 with its capacitor-powered 10ML xenon bulb that he just has to get somewhat near to you to instantly delete your vision until you can get another magic fucking to take time off from inflicting monsoons on Tunisia to heal you.Head-seeking mini racing drones equipped with as much explosives as can possibly crammed on there. You just get finished raising an army of the dead from a veteran's graveyard and all you hear is "eeeEEEEE-" as a guided hand grenade hits you square in the face at 100mph.
>>64421238>ARE YOU ENJOYING SOMETHING SINCERELY?!?! THAT'S FUCKING GAY!!! STOP IT!!!
>>64419646>enlist and fight in wars out of patriotic fervor?Having played DND for 25 years this is the most unrealistic part of your post.
>>64419841Then they don't "join the army" the army joins them.
>>64419855>If they were like walking nuclear weapons, they would first be feared and neutralized by governments and their people.A walking nuclear bomb would be your government, retard. You're not electing shit.
>>64421236>Perhaps a tad childish, but Eragon will always be a fond series for me, and has a relatively grounded magic system that is very similar to the one here.Eragon's magic system is the Earthsea magic system, including an entire paragraph of explanation copied and pasted into the first book.>ChildishDon't tell me you're still under the impression it was written by a teenager all these years later.
>>64419646>fat
>>64419675here's a witch summoning a gun.
>>64421662She's pregnant as all young women must be for a society to survive more than a century.
>>64420183that boyfriend she picked up in the film knew what he was supposed to do.
>>64421316Well hold on is the comic gay or not? Because the two guys defending it we're weirdly cagy on that point. One guy calls it gay and they're like "tee hee it could be gayer" which is a weird thing to say if it's not gay.Are the characters gay? Is that portrayed as a good thing?
>>64421624Don't know about the whole authorship thing, but it's definately not a high brow series, and copies a lot of its story arcs and tropes, hence I called it a tad childish.
Strike Witches
>>64421311If you had wizards making significant storms you'd have wizards making wind and weather that makes tiny drones a bad joke.
>>64421697yeah man it's buttfucking every other page, totally woke, you wouldn't like itAlso war zombies are a war crime.
>>64421064Based Megumin enjoyer
>>64421075Who else would it be?>>64421687>>64421688Based
>>64419718No, don't believe (((Big Coffee's))) lies
>>64423227>yeah man it's buttfucking every other page, totally woke, you wouldn't like itYeah see this cagey non answering faggotry is why everyone thinks your comic is gay before they even read it.
>>64421231>fujoshithat would explain why I stopped reading it. that and her having a bunch of little kids in the story should be probably cause for the FBI to see if she hasn't got a kid tied up in her basement
finished frieren, mushoku tensei and yofukashi no uta, please recommend me more comfy afterwork series
>>64425099Hakumei and Mikochi, apothecary diaries, ruri no rock(hard), ascendance of a bookworm
Witches are real. Any form of divination for the ungodly purpose of self-gratification is witchery. People who, for whatever reason, have turned to the power of worldly Demons to hurt those they hate and rejecting the everlasting justice and forgiveness of the life after this life are witches. Out of all the supernatural things of this world. Witchery is the one you should be concerned with. I hate witchery.
>>64425099Girls Last Tour
>>64425048Tired of fragile snowflakes who need to be reassured nothing is going to challenge their tiny little minds. Go watch Veggie Tales, you'll be happier. >>64425087Her fujoshi proclivities are mostly kept in check, Bastion may be an omnisexual fuckboy but he's only been shown fucking women on panel. As for the kids, that's more guro than porn, they'll get killed but not fucked.
>>64425250>guro childrenyou aren't making a particularly strong case for her
Ssael helps those who help themselves, aspirant. God does not interfere in the world.
>>64425252This is the board where I routinely see videos of real people being blasted into gibbets in HD, I expected it to be less squeamish than say, /co or /tg.
>>64425265>This is the board where I routinely see videos of real people being blasted into gibbets in HDyes, but I wouldn't say that we are the baseline for acceptable behaviour. Nor are those getting blown to bits children.including children in your story just so you can have them be part of guro isn't a great look for the author. simping for some child guro drawing fujoshi isn't a great look for you or the comic you want to push eighter.
>>64425265also>/co or /tggo back to plebbit you faggot
>>64420151>man reborn as woman>still has the mind of manWould this be the ideal /k/ partner though?
>>64425253Stop shilling this disgusting faggotry.
>>64425250>Tired of fragile snowflakesNice projection there, you dumb whore. You're obsessing over woke trash.>omnisexual fuckboyYou even write like a subhuman tumblrcunt.
>>64425134What if you use the power of demons for the good of all mankind, like King Solomon?
>>64425225>>64425122nice, thanks
>>64425450He commanded Demons through God. Demons kneel to the authority of God.
>>64425363I'm also a nogunz europoor war touristbut I've been on 4chan longer than you>>64425276kids are killed and there's gore, I don't think the kid deaths are particularly gory, it's a pretty good gritty fantasy story, I assume not everyone reading /k is on a hair trigger to piss their britches like that other poster up there, but this is 4chan, the autismos always scream louder
>>64425134Sounds made up desu senpai
>>64425253Kinda feels like a Crossed-like
>>64425783>kids are killed and there's gore,How underage do you have to be to think that's an argument, you autistic cunt?
>>64425831Hm, no the raven zombies are just a one time thing, there's zombies in the setting but they're like work robots and technically not allowed to be used for war. The story follows the protagonist who is undead but more like a Lich and a tailed thief girl, the war bits are mostly flashbacks to when he was alive. But they're fairly well done and the magic system and how it applies to war is cleverly developed
>>64425847What I mean is: It's a story with goreIt's a story with death that doesn't exclude children.Both things are mostly separate, the child deaths aren't particularly gory.tell me to get out of "your" /k now so I can sing bingo, why dontcha
>>64419814She painted her ass blue to camouflage against the sky. Try to keep up.
>>64421687>>64421688P-Pregnant?!
>>64419819>magical atomic bomb
>>64421064>>64423521
>>64419646>Everyone has magic but it's tied to some form of bioetheric stamina that lets the user twist physics around but not too much and can exhaust the user pretty quickly.Every soldier gets basic magic training for useful things. No fireballs or magic attacks, that shit's useless in the face of bullets. Squads are buffed magically instead. Sound and visual suppression for stealth, shielding for combat, enhanced senses for recon, and weight reduction all day e'ry day. It costs less to train a magically adept soldier than to send out gear that costs 2 years of that soldier's wages and the person is more versatile. Basically nothing changes except soldiers wear less gear and armor & jets will have fewer electronics.>It's like DND and only a select few do shit with it but when they do you better not fuck aroundIt'd be like the big non-nuclear weapons of right now. MOABs and shit. 99% of the time it'd be a lot of nothing and then China would be all like "WE GOT ANOTHER FUCKING WIZARD SO IMPLESSIVE" and then promptly go back to being nothing. When Trump ordered the MOAB used, it would have been a fire mage. He'd pose for photographs and be like "Murika, fuck yeah!" and then glass the place.>40K where it's reality warping but demons and shit come through if you're not carefulRemember the special forces in The Things They Carried with the free gook starter kit and the dead tiger? They'd have magic too. You would read about them in books and have trouble wrapping your head around it. They wouldn't officially exist.
>>64425250>Tired of fragile snowflakes who need to be reassured nothing is going to challenge their tiny little minds. Go watch Veggie Tales, you'll be happier.>Don't eat that guy's sandwiches they have shit in them!>"heh, what a baby you are">Wait so do they have shit in them?>"What's the matter, afraid to find out? Afraid of shit?"Okay so to recap, it *is* gay, then.
>>64425869>tell me to get out of "your" /k >/k
>>64425583But that's OK, right? Commanding the demons instead of serving them.
>>64419646>What would warfare be like if witches and wizards were real and integrated enough in their respective national and ethnic communities to enlist and fight in wars out of patriotic fervor?Going by Harry Potter, wizards can appear basically anywhere, mind control / memory alter anyone and designate territory that is absolutely imperceptible and inaccessible to non-magical beings. This makes the very concept of national scale leadership an impossibility as at any point your chain of command can be subverted and the only way to stop it is to have wizards loyal to your leaders to mount a magical defense... and said "loyal" wizards having access to leadership for said defense would give them equal opportunity to take over your leaders mind. Even if your leader can secure themself with loyal wizards, their ability to use potions to shapeshift or control a loyal wizard makes it so any defense is precarious and that isn't even dipping a toe into the murky waters of time travel. All that said, that when questions of modern muggle weapons vs Harry Potter wizards spells comes up in discussions, people talking about Avada Kadavra vs guns or shield spells vs an air force or Bombardia vs a tank always gives me a little chuckle. To me a wizard taking to the battlefield to fight lowly muggles is like driving picrel onto the battlefield so you can roll down the window and do a drive-by gangsta style. A battle between wizards vs muggle armies would quickly turn into a battle between muggles armies / countries puppeteered by wizards much the same way nobles of old controlled the common folk... except this time with literal mind control.
>>64429055I think the interesting question in Harry Potter is how muggle weapons would change wizard wars, if the wizards weren't too stupid and arrogant to use them. Voldemort's followers aren't puppeteering armies, they aren't using mind control to seize control of Britain's nuclear weapons, they're personally walking into the battlefield and casting visual range spells at other spellcasters.One muggle with a rifle could have made a decisive difference in the Siege of Hogwarts, not because rifles are OP compared to magic, but because the way wizards are used to fighting makes them incredibly vulnerable.
>>64420651The way magic works in unsounded, a wright can sling spells all day but unless he's very careful he'll cause agitation as spells are basically exploits on the normal functioning of the world, do enough uncontrolled damage to the area and reality itself can break, that's why they have one guy with a sensor reading out the agitation level in the area and declaring a "spell stop" when things get dangerous. oop more dead children
>>64429055>wizards can appear basically anywhere, mind control / memory alter anyone and designate territory that is absolutely imperceptible and inaccessible to non-magical beings.There's clearly limitations on what they can do though or else they wouldn't be living in hiding from the greater world.
>>64419646>What would happen if nations had an airforce thousands of years before they even invented gunsEarly on witches would basically be crucial to combat, any nation that didn't have witches at their disposal would get their shit stomped so hard it wouldn't even be funny, imagine your enemy has people who can fly outside of arrow range and just drop magical napalm on your head, there's legitimately nothing you could do.
"The Saga of Tanya the Evil" is about "witches" in alt I/II world war settinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKB-xFRkYQY
