order has been placed now after the recent parliamentary approvaloption for 82 further vehicles is included in the contractthe Luchs 2 (lynx 2) will replace the Fennek (fennec) armored car, it's based on the Piranha V 6x6 from GDELSit's amphibious and has a 25mm Oerlikon autocannon capable of firing airburst ammo for cUAS dutieshttps://www.hartpunkt.de/vertrag-fuer-die-lieferung-von-274-spaehfahrzeugen-luchs-2-unterschrieben/
>Fennek (fennec) Thank you anon I would have got it mixed up with the Scoutsenshrektenwagenshooten MK.II without that clarification.
>>64425057np anon (thanks for the bump)
the og Luchs for reference
>>64425065yw anon. Is there a real photo of the vehicle in the OP? Or are they ordering something that hasn't been manufactured yet?
>>64425074nope, not yet. The vehicle still has to be developed, afaik, the Piranha V is only produced in the 8x8 config so far. It's a proven chassis tho so it shouldn't cause problems but considering fiascos like the Puma or Ajax, who knows. Introduction is scheduled for 2029.Germany also wants the Piranha V in the 8x8 config as platform for some communication platform (Tawan), so there should be some logistical sense behind introducing a new vehicleBoxer would be too heavy as recon in any case
>>64424987Gonna miss the fennek
>>64425057Achktüally In Germany we call zat DIE SKÄUTZENSCHRECKTENSCHÜTZENWAGEN Ausf.B
These things are quite OP in Warno.
>>64425179>>64425067
im so fucking glad germany finally has taken responsibility of doing their share of defending europe. i get that they have qualms about anything military but it need not be offensive, only a sensible good military like back during the cold war. not just to defend themselves but also europe as a whole against russia. with great economy comes great responsibility. russia delenda est.
Are these being built in Germany or one of the places in Spain, Switzerland or Romania that already builds Piranha Vs?
>>64425341the 8x8 Piranha 5s for this TAWAN communication system will be built in southern Germany, the 6x6 Luchs 2 is scheduled to be introduced later so I assume it will be built locally too. Haven't seen concrete info on that tho.https://www.hartpunkt.de/serienfertigung-der-piranha-5-fuer-die-bundeswehr-erfolgt-in-sueddeutschland/
>>64425341>>64425356nevermind, yes, they will be built locally:>According to his statements, Piranha production in Germany will form a “cornerstone” of international Piranha production in the future. In addition to the TaWAN radio relay tanks, the German Armed Forces' future reconnaissance tanks will also be manufactured at the new plant.
>>64424987dues the turret have lockouts to prevent shooting the mirrors and antennas?
>>64426331no clue, but I hope and assume they figured out a solution for that
>>64425098Why the FUCK would you get anything Swiss made in 2025?
>>64426646it isn't Swiss made. The vehicles will be built in Germany, see >>64425364
>>64426331Mirrors are only for peacetime road moves. They wouldn't be up in a situation where the turret isn't locked anyway
>>64424987You don't need wheeled vehicles at war.Trust me, boys.You'll get stuck in the first puddle.
>>64426702Can't they still fuck with any foreign deployments or does it really only concern weapons made on Swiss soil.
>>64426893Ukie army used wheeled AFVs to good effect too, at least in the beginning. They seem to have been lost at this point tho, haven't seen footage of them in a while.>>64426898not sure t b hbut I assume not. they definitely can't fuck with deployments of the German army. what they *might* be able to say something on is redistribution to other countries, but I don't think this is the case.
>>64425201I bet that there's some extremely competent officers in the German MoD who have to suffer career slowdown just because they happen to have the title of "von" in their surname.
>>64427037I mean, this von in particular had quite the career.
>>64427079She got her name through marriage. And I am unable to quickly determine whether her husband has noble ancestry or not (only one branch of the von der leyen family got ennobled). She herself is descended from a notable, but non-noble family.
>>64426946>They seem to have been lost at this point tho, haven't seen footage of them in a whileBeing used more for cas evac and supply runs is my guess.
>>64425067>west germany builds the BTR
>>64427079nudes?
>>64424987What made them decide they needed a bigger vehicle with a proper autocannon on it? Surely it's not solely about shooting down drones
>>64424987>no APS>no drone cageThis vehilce is going to be dead on arrival.
>>64428982its a scout vehicle, what do you think its going to do?
>>64428986Why do you even need a sfouting vehicle when a couple of cheap drones can do a better job?
>>64428991>when a couple of cheap drones can do a better job?oh, so you know jack then?
>>64425167Fennek upgrades as recent as 2024:80 German JFST, Recce variants325 Dutch MLU'd atm. unless given to ukies they'll still kill their drivers into the 2030s.
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>>64427726Nah. Its just normal 8 wheeled product of krautism.
>>64424987
>>64424987Man, I hate how piranha looks. Also many lav versions. mowag can suck a dick>>64426946hgnn... the btr-4 is so sexo
>>64424987>6x6 PiranhaLooks cute and comfy
>>64426946I recall a Ukrainian unit showing off a brand new BTR-4 not that long ago, seats covered with plastic bags and all.
>>64434281>You now remember the Russians discovering a crate full of Lend-Lease Thompson submachine guns, still in the packing grease
>>64427726Nah. It's not a troop transport, it's a pure recon car. There's no passenger compartment.
>>64425065>>64430952Say what you want about the Fennek, but i just looks fucking cool.
>>64434846Funfact: the Luchs was made so silent for recon that soldiers weren't allowed to sleep on the ground in the wild when that thing was operating in the same area, it was simply too silent to reliably wake them up.
>>64430925Yep, the upgrades should be all done by the end of this year. It will be in service till 2035. So we will still see this the desert fox do its thing for a while.
>>64435194Around that time the VBAE for Belgium and France ought to be reality. Small profile dedicated 4x4 reconnainsance platform will remain relevant looking at Ukraine, imo.
>>64424987Did the RCT-30 not fit the chassis?
>325 Dutch MLU'd atmrip to the stinger version though
>>64440742>>64430925
>>64437734it may fit, but it would not be idealthe point of this vehicle is not primarily to fight, it's recon
