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Wonder how long this dumb fuck has until the knock comes. PSA costumers are the Walmart greeters of two digit IQ customers
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>>64432362
Is it because the VFG makes this "pistol" into an AOW?
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>>64432362
THIS IS WHY YOU GET A COLT ... NIGGERS DONT BUY THE GOOD STUFF !!!
-Dale Johnson
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>>64432374
hell yeah, brother
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>>64432362
Isnt that an ATI omni hybrid not a psa?
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>>64432362
>>64432370
Nothing's gonna happen bitchTF
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>>64432362
>PSA reviews guy 1. has shit taste and 2. committed a felony
1. boring, this is to be expected, there's nothing even that interesting about this gun
2. who cares you hall monitor faggot
verdict: thread sux, hidden from catalog
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>>64432362
>ZOMG SOMEONE BOUGHT SOMETHING
tell me youre new to this without telling me youre new to this. Also, as other anon said, that's not a PSA.
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>>64432370
You can't put a vertical grip on a pistol build. It needs to be approved by a BATF transfer and tax stamp purchase. You can use an angles grip or a short stop. To help not shoot off your fingers, at least.
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>>64432507
You got a safe queen airsoft accessory style approach toward legal gun ownership. If you're not on the bleeding edge of knowing the law in regard to gun ownership then you are a blaring retard. The slightest mistake puts your ass away for years. I get concepts like "put it on and don't worry" due to not really be able to get caught unless you commit a crime, but when you photograph it, you've gone FULL RETARD son. That shit is over there posted by that retard, and me showing it here is entertainment.

How many times has your faggot ass got busted for running your mouth with horseshit like snitching?
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dude cops dont care about this shit
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>>64432362
I was expecting a third pin lower. Anything less is tame now desu you hall monitor faggot.
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>>64433365
everybody and their mother can build a machine gun, the bleeding edge is destructive devices now
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You're all sick people.
I hope you all get cancer. Fuck youse all.
I put a curse upon you all.
Fuck ya
mudda
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>>64432362
Its actually kind of crazy how many people dont understand you can not do this.

My friend is an airline pilot that makes over $300k a year and is quite intelligent by all accounts, even he sent me a picture similar to the OP post, I was like ummmm thats an SBR bud. he was like what???

Honestly, I dont think anyone really cares, other than some ranges who have range nazi ROs who check stamp paperwork...
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>>64433584
it's not an SBR, it's an AOW
totally different
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>>64433677
still needs a stamp and still NFA regulated
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>>64433584
literally no one knows and no one cares. The only time it would ever come up would be if you were arrested for something and they found it behind your car seat or something, and really wanted to hit you with more charges.
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>>64433727
>get my stamp years ago
>shoot monthly, various indoor ranges around town
>no one asks me for stamps, ever
yeah no one fucking cares, got my penis inspected anyways
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>>64433727
Nah, ive been to indoor ranges that make you show your Form 1/4 for NFA stuff other than suppressors.

I didnt go back, but places like this do exist.

And what you described is often how people do catch charges for stuff like unregistered SBR/AOW, just an extra way to fuck the person over a little bit more.
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>>64432362
This "law" was defacto overturned in a South Carolina case. Current legal standing on having a VFG on a pistol is mixed at best.
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>>64433320
No one cares poindexter
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>>64433743
what region? i'm east coast and the ranges here don't seem to care, at all.
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>Muh ranges asking for your tax stamps
Every time I bring out my NFA items either no one cares, one of the staff asks about one of my guns because they want something similar or I get asked if I'm a fed.
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>>64433320
And yet niggers fill social media with NFA violations and the ATF does nothing. Fuck yourself fed. Get off your fat ass and stop selectively enforcing the law, or are you people only interested in burning women and children alivr and arresting people that you know won't shoot back?
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>>64433758
I had a range in Upstate South Carolina make me show a tax stamp for my machine gun.
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>>64433307
try and enforce it with NO FUCKING MONEY FAGGOT
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>they pay some faggot to have the """privilege""" of enjoying their God given right
Get a clue and own some land.
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>>64433785
As a land owner you realize you're still paying for privileges of enjoying your rights unmolested right?
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>>64433320
Until I put something illegal in your car or shed and call the ATF because SNITCHES GET A TASTE FAGGOT
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>>64432362
He's fine because the government shit down, ain't nobody gettin paid.
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>>64433788
If he has to pay to exercise then, they aren't rights.
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>>64433758
nta, but I live in a cuck state on the east coast and our ranges tend to care less than a lot of ranges I've seen in the surrounding freer states. Seems to be a mentality thing; most of the cucks around here are anti gun, so the ranges are a high concentration of super pro gun people to compensate. I know a local range or two that definitely don't narc on people who have illegal configs, and don't demand any nfa docs. For places like this, you're only likely to get kicked out if you're blatantly dumping full auto down range.
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>>64433810
>use money to buy rights/power
brother that's how our system works. That's how and why the rich are free to do as they please. Stop being poor.
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>>64433829
So you have no point? I can afford stamps.
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>>64433803
Woohoo! No rulz!
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>>64433834
my point is that if you buy your rights, you have rights. if you don't buy your rights, you don't have them. Simple as.
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>>64433810
This is why I have no gym membership, I ain't payin' to exercise!
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>>64433848
if you have to pay someone else to get jacked, you're gains are fake and gay.
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>>64433686
has anyone EVER in history of the last 50 years been convicted for putrring a foregip on pistol?
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>>64433745
it's not an actual law anyway just gaytf's opinion
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>>64433911
No individually, its more of an add on when they try to bust people for making machineguns for gangbangers.
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>>64433911
only as a part of a larger arrest, like people mentioned before. This is much more frequently seen as an accessory/incidental violation. I feel like every third estate sale in my area turns up all sorts of 'illegal' firearms that were owned and used for decades with no one turning a head.

source; just what I seen and heard, I don't work for or around people who do these arrests
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>>64433842
Not really, compared to your thurd ass you have no rights at all.
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>>64433930
what are you ACTUALLY mad about here
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>>64433320
I've been caught with unregistered title 2 firearms twice (no MGs or DDs). Atf declined to prosecute if I agreed to destruction both times. I get the sense that they really don't want this shit challenged in court and only prosecute if they found them while you were otherwise engaged in criminal activity.
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>>64433922
Which is still kinda law, but the supreme court torpedoed the administrative state last year which strengthens your defense without even needing to challenge the NFA.
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looks like it might be an 87 degree grip
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>>64434225
chevron got overturned and it was never an actual law, they literally just illegaly fearmongered people into complying with their personal opinion.
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>>64433829
>stop being poor

If only it were that easy. If only there weren't entire industries effectively dedicated to keeping the poor where they are. You can bootstrap yourself out of being poor, I'm not saying it's not possible, but it's about as difficult as getting to the moon by nailing your dick to a rocket.
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>>64434383
won't disagree with you there. the 'stop being poor' is one poor man to another, but the fact stands; if you want freedom you're going to need power (money) to enjoy it.
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>>64433922
>>64434225
Hence the
>"law"
my good retard
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>>64434231
Wrong that is not the case, nor is it a correct interpretation of Chevron. The findings of Chevron DID show that the EPA WAS allowed to make defacto law (not real law as in voted for by our existing, but legally binding and enforceable law under the guise of needed regulatory clarity). This was crucial to allow the environmental movement any real standing and is why to this day we don't live in a China tier polluted shit heap. Naturally, however, you can't just limit this type of executive privilege to one agency, so it was spread and used extensively (for example the ATF). Recent legal opinion and precedent is what removed it as law. I don't give a fuck about ideals. This is material fact
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>>64434459
IN essence you can think of it like this: the EPA was legally created to regulate environmental needs, but how do we give them legal wide reaching authority to enforce in a complex and sueable system? Why the Chevron defense of course! The EPA was created to do this, so naturally it's a function of the agency. It's so funny Gorsuch's mom was on the ruling and he was on the reversal.
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>>64433842
You can't buy rights, you either have them or you don't.
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>>64432362
Honestly who gives a shit? I've seen people post straight up unregistered SBR MGs, a fucking VFG ain't shit. I bet if you called the ATF right now and reported the guy they'd tell you to shut the fuck up and get a life
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>>64434682
>You can't buy rights
you can, but hardly anyone has the money to actually do it.
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>>64434217
Niggas get arrested on the daily with glock switches but the ATF declines to pursue the case (as serious as it is, no 10 year Club Fed vacation).
But put a foregrip on a pistol AR and to the ATF, it's the same level of felony.
Pants-on-head retarded level gun laws.
They all need to be abolished.
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>>64433356
Most don't, but some do. And it's that "some do" group that will fuck your shit up.
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>>64433782
>show a tax stamp for my machine gun
That's not uncommon. It's a machine gun, and for the vast majority of people it's unobtanium (at least done the legal way).
That's a CYA on their part.
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>>64432362
>>64432370
>>64433307
ATF didn't even prosecute felons who were dumb enough to fill out 4473s under Obama. They are not at all concerned with this guy.
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>>64432362
OP is a victory lap boomer nigger
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>>64433782
lol i bet you're that guy who sperged about sharpshooters, they've always been a super awesome range for me. i'm gonna do comps at a different range tho
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>>64432362
if this thing is over 26 inches in overall length, then you're looking at a non-concealable weapon which is designed to be held with two hands but not fired from the shoulder, making it neither a pistol, nor a rifle, nor an AOW.
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>>64436601
neat
I wonder if the oal measurement for generic firearms is measured with any brace fully extended like stocks are on rifles.
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>>64436601
why doesn't the category "Any Other Weapon" include this and other uncategorized firearms such as a pistol grip only shotgun?
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>>64432374
How many niggers are name Stanley?
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>>64432507
>he has shit taste
kek, I’m sure he’ll give a shit about how much you like his gun when jamal breaks into his house. jamal will probably look at it, say that his gun is unfashionable to true connoisseurs such as yourself, and Stan will be too embarrassed to defend himself with it.
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>>64432362
This reminds me of a retard who rated an AK pistol 1 out of 5 stars because he didn’t know how to remove the flat face rear plate. The dumbass tried to pry it out with a screw driver and marred his receiver and rear trunnion.
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>>64433778

Nothing happened. All the time. Zero proof much in your statements?

>>64433798

Well see who gets stiches you MASSIVE FAGGOT. I'm actually from the hood. I'd make you piss your faggot ass little white boy panties. You're stupid dumb faggot ass bitch. Your my bitch the fucking instant I find you. You stupid little faggot.
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>>64433307
If OAL is over 26" it just becomes a firearm.
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>>64434217
How did you actually get caught? Dumb enough to tell people or bring it to the range?
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>>64436834
NTA but IIRC no as the brace is not a "required" part or some dumb shit like that. I was trying to research about OAL for some gun projects I have floating around in my head and I found it oddly easier to find info on whether braces count on pistols for OAL rather than the info I was looking for, which was if folding stocks are measured folded or unfolded. IIRC buffer tubes on "pistols" that don't require them (not an AR) are also not counted theoretically. At least that was the case as of a couple months back. Also for anyone wondering, folding stocks are measured when unfolded or fully extended for collapsing stocks (even those with multiple adjustment points, I assume).

PS: I wonder if that also means those silly Brit pistols with the stick and counterweight wouldn't have that included in the OAL measurement.

>>64436844
I was going to say that PGO shotguns (certain barrel length and within a certain OAL) are just firearms but I was getting that mixed up with bird's head grip shotguns; AFAIK PGO under 18" barrel are SBS unlike some bird's head models. But you can have a PGO with over 18" barrel that's just a shotgun as well.



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