What would be the best way to weaponize a stargate.
>>64434296>turn it flat>drop your mom in itjust jkingshe would get stuck innit
>>64434296Taking out the naquada and making big boom boom bombad bomb
You mean how do you weaponize a portal? Point one at your enemy and have the other inside something dangerous like the ocean or the sun. Hose opponents down with an effectively endless stream of high pressure water or solar plasma.
>>64434296They already did in the series. There was that one Gooold lord had like a particle accellerator aimed at his gate. If he found out someone who had a gate and he didn't like, he'd just dial the gate open to the dude and just keep blasting him until his entire continent was dead. It was essentially an interplanetary DOS attack.
>>64434296S4E22. Dial into the black hole at P3W-451 and then put the dialing gate on a trajectory into the main star of the target system. Supernova on demand.
>>64434296>Bring one to the center of Mumbai>Write "free bobs and vagene on the other end">the other end is simply a ravine on some fuckass planet lightyears away>repeat the process until we've unloaded all of the browns onto a one way trip.
>>64434296>>>/tv/ fucking nerd
>>64434296put it into russia>aliens entering end up in russia>russians leaving leave earth and aliens have to deal with them instead
>>64434349>nooooooooooo unless you're making a heckin thinly veiled /pol/troon thread, you cant post on /k/!>noooo! You can't just heckin show actual examples of them being used as a weapon like >>64434311, >>64434336, >>64434339, and >>64434346!Cry to the jannies, faggot.
>>64434336O'Neill also sent a nuke through a gate once to blow up Teal'c's home world in some alternate reality Jackson had as a bad dream.>>64434354Pretty sure there was at least one system lord who was from the Slavic pantheon already.
>>64434354Russia actually did have one, and their program did not go as well as the USAF's.
>>64434296Throw some bottles of vodka and unravaged boipussi through the portal and the racial bioweapon known as Russians will go pouring in. Go'aldniggers will never even know what hit them!
>>64434375Russians just like Egyptians, Greeks, Indians, the Irish and the Chinese were created by Goa'uld.
>>64434381>>64434377I always wondered but why didn't they ever use tanks in SG-1.Were they too big for the gate? Or the show's budget too low? The Sheridan would've been prefect imho.
>>64434414Because without shells tanks are useless
>>64434414too beeg for the gatethey had a mini one for awhile iirc
>>64434364>Slavic pantheonThat would be Svarog.
>>64434296Daniel had the right idea in that episode where Shifu gives him the Goa'uld knowledge.
>>64434436The gates on Atlantis were large enough for at least Bradley-wide ships
>>64434311>or the sunThey did that, blew up the sun end because it upset the hydrostatic equilibrium of the star.Another thing they did was dial a planet near a black hole.
>>64434339Based Carter appreciator
>>64434453that one is a budget one then
>>64434414Too big>>64434436I was always surprised they didn't use a Wiesel 1.
>>64434414Budget is one factor, the size of the milky way gates is another, and there's real concerns about the sustainability of that kind of deployment. There's at least a dozen main teams at any given time, later there's long term off-world installations set up, you have the gate on scheduled rotations through those different needs and with additional unscheduled use during emergencies, the logistics could get very messy very fast and that's assuming you knew enough about where you were sending it to even know the terrain was favourable and the asset useful in the quantities you could fit.>>64434565The UGVs they use are in at least the ballpark.
>>64434540this format needs to make a comeback
>>64434572Seeing Wiesel's with 20mm and Spike's rolling through the gate would've been kino.>>64434588Indeed, newfags will never know the good timeschkd
>>64434414>>64434565>too bigyeah
>>64434622Now you show me how you're getting that Abrams into the gate room, smarty-pants.
>>64434414I swear hey used Strikers at some point for some big battle. No Awmy stuff on the show, it was only ever Air Force with Marine grunt backup.They had MALPs with turrets aplenty though.
Gates can absorb a retarded amount of energy to a point where they can destroy an entire planet if they explode. This is how Anubis wanted to destroy Earth and the only solution was to yeet the startgate into hyperspace to get it far as away from Earth as possible and even then the explosion was so massive that it was visible from Earth several lightyears away. I never realized why this tactic wasn't used again the show, it was a super convenient way to get rid of hostile planets.
>>64434634They could have them stationed offworld at Beta Site, or use the Antarctic gate. The Russians had the Antarctic gate in a huge surface level warehouse at some point, extremely easy access for vehicles.
>>64434634Contact IKEA to create an Abrams you can assemble yourself.>>64434640Did Strykers even exist when SG-1 was shot?
>>64434634if they got the gate into that silo, surely they can get an Abrams down there too. Imagine Jaffa getting BTFO by 120mm canister shot. Imagine a squadron of Death Gliders catching PAC-3s
>>64434642I believe they had the ability to shunt the incoming signal to another gate by using the Antarctic gate simultaneously or something.>>64434649It was in the later Anubis arc so yes. Or it might have been Atlantis, I don't recall the episode nor can I find it.
>>64434615still remember looking at these in class, ages ago.good times...
>>64434642blowing habitable planets out of existence is irreversible and so is destroying stargates (for the Goa'uld at least). It's not something they get to do willy-nilly, kinda equivalent to nuking a city you might want to conquer later
>>64434642Well for one thing you generally want to kill the people on the other end with guns or staff weapons more than entirely destroy the planet.For another, even if you have the tools to do it, it might be in your best interests to keep pandora's box closed for that one. If nobody else knows it can actually be done, they won't try it. If you demonstrate both that it can and that you will, now everyone's going to start wondering if they should try and do it to you before you get a chance to do it to them.
>>64434670There are instances where blowing up planets is the solution, like when the Atlantis team came up with an overly complex plan to destroy the replicators instead of just using a spare gate to blow their world up. Or when the Asgards used their time stopping magic to freeze another replicator planet in time rather than blowing them the fuck up. Or again, a supercharged stargate used as a bomb would have been enough to destroy the Ori supergate. The writers kept forgetting that they already came up with solutions to very similar problems, but I guess they believed it'd be lazy writing to recycle old plot points.
Everybody ITT is thinking too small>Send out SG teams to capture live Jaffa (pretty trivial if you issue each man a zat)>You don't need first primes or anybody special, just plain old Jaffa based out at the shit end of the galaxy will do for lab rat duty>Find out what chemical works as Jaffa-crack, they're similar enough to humans that it's probably just crack, but you might need to unleash a few SGC chemists to brew up giga-crack or something to deal with Jaffa's immune systems/the effects of the prim'ta >Send out Maybourne and his fellow spooky sociopaths to start selling Jaffa brand Giga-crack to every system lords army, shit get the little Jaffalets hooked on it too>If you can get them to pay in naquadah or something similar then that's an added bonus, but not necessary at this point, the shows were always kind of loose about the offworld economies so I'm not sure if Jaffa even have a money analogue >As American inner cities have shown you don't need to even get close to 100% addicts to fuck up a society>When the realm of the System Lords is collapsing internally you can start annexing relevant/interesting worlds (mostly for non-terran mineral mining, ancient dig sites, other weird science shit)>Treat the liberated humans working those mines decently - the poor bastards have suffered enough - so make sure they get health care, decent wages, and reasonable working standards (although just giving them basic safety equipment, access to aspirin tier medication, and basic modern mining gear would probably be paradise by their standards)Seriously, the Tau'ri East India Company plan could have solved the Goold problem by the end of the first season.
>>64434795Fuck you Maybourne.But really the system lords would just invent some anti-crack drug with their technology.
>>64434795Space fent
>>64434852If the plan succeeds unless the enemy pulls a literal ex-machina out of their ass then it's a good plan. If the system-lords invent anti-crack then A: that could be very useful stuff to bring back and reverse engineer for use on Earth, and B: start getting the Jaffa hooked on Giga-Meth, Giga-Fentanyl, Giga-Oxycodone, whatever. We'll find the one the System Lords can't fix eventually, and even once they do fix the individual addiction outbreaks each one damages their society a little bit more.
>>64434540I mean, it is objectively the most effective weaponization of a gate in the entire series, bar none. You simply cannot top it.But also Carter is hot.>>64434655IIRC they showed the gate being lowered by crane into the silo at some point in the series. Although an MBT likely weighs far more than a gate, despite being much smaller externally.
>>64434300bruv>>64434381Whenever they sent missiles through the gate, that was the coolest shit.
>>64434795It would be much easier to kill all Goauld queens to make their race go extinct. There aren't that many of them to begin with, so targeted assassinations against active queens could deliver a devastating blow to the Goauld empire. The vast majority of Goaulds are asexual and can't produce new symbiotes, which their Jaffa slaves rely on to survive, so a shortage of symbiotes would create massive Jaffa riots. Plus seeing their gods die in front of their eyes would break their faith to bits.>>64434916>You simply cannot top it.How about using Baal's cheat code of dialing all gates and once, but placing the dialing gate near a black hole, which creates a permanent wormhole that never shuts down, making the entire gate network useless forever.
>>64434622Just ask the Ori to borrow one of their bigger gates.
>>64434964Ok you cant travel anywhere anymore
>>64434795>>64434892Would the system lords even care if jaffa start dying from super-crack?I never got the impression that they really cared for the well being of their slaves.
>>64435110Not initially, no, which just helps the plan spread further and further. When the System Lords start to realise that they're running out of Jaffa though, that's going to be the biggest 'oh shit' moment in their species history - and if the show actually stuck to its guns on the Goold being kind of retarded and unable to develop new shit on the fly there'd be nothing they could do about it.
>>64435123I think the problem with that plan is it would require several centuries to work. You're dealing with hundreds or thousands of populated worlds. All of which need to get addicted to mega-crack. If we look at real life then after a century of addiction China managed to mostly get off opium without ever coming up with an anti-drug.
>>64434964>It would be much easier to kill all Goauld queens to make their race go extinct.Is that how the show ended? I never finished SG-1.
>>64434296I miss the days when a sincerely pro-military TV show was possible. Probably the most HFY-adjacent show I can think of. I will admit though, the SG team's total disregard for non-human or non-organic life made my inner Star Trek fan clutch their pearls a little bit.Out of interest, would Jaffa staff weapons fall under the second amendment? Based on their depiction in the show they are a standard infantry arm but seem to pack enough punch to potentially BTFO light vehicles, assuming you can actually hit them.
>>64435170You might enjoy this. https://www.fanfiction.net/s/3631062/1/XSGCOM-Mirror-Image
>>64434366Marina Sirtis is in that one I think.
>>64434366The Russians really had the worst luck when they had a SG, although it could be worse they could’ve dialled up the black hole planet
>>64434795>As American inner cities have shown you don't need to even get close to 100% addicts to fuck up a societyBut Anon unlike a American city a Goa’uld world will just round up and kill the space crackheads, followed by a decree that anyone caught in possession of the space crack will be crucified.
>>64434296shit In bags and throw them in
>>64435170Something cool about the premise of SG1 is how it leans into the idea that this little pocket of Tau'ri we call Earth has absolutely no business sticking its dick through that gate and SGC has to be ultra pragmatic about threat minimisation. You're out there messing with ancient alien ruins, body-stealing star system conquerers and fuck knows what else, and that's when you don't accidentally dial the doorstep of a black hole. You mention Trek and even just the idea of something like the iris, a device that will destroy anything trying to get through unless a GDO code is sent, would make a Federation officer's eye twitch.Both Voyager and Enterprise fumbled the most interesting parts of their premises, but Enterprise in particular could've been a lot more interesting if they didn't usually just treat it like a skin on the 24th century. Do more with how the lesser tech and Earth's vulnerability as a single planet without many friends makes the whole premise of exploration different from the outset. Showing how once we have the capability to better defend ourselves we made the choice to put away the pragmatism and be what we wanted to see in the galaxy instead of going the other way into the Terran Empire would be a shade of HFY of its own.
>>64436205>Enterprise in particular could've been a lot more interesting if they didn't usually just treat it like a skin on the 24th century. Do more with how the lesser tech and Earth's vulnerability as a single planet without many friends makes the whole premise of exploration different from the outset.IIRC that was the plan, but they botched it so hard that we were left with . . . a show where the best part was the opening theme song.
>>64434381The survival rate for recurring characters was shockingly low. So many of them got brought back one last time just so they could die on-camera.
>>64434336he was overloading the gate itself however the best use of stargate was on atlantis where the replicators shipped a gate in orbit and just fired a big honk laser powered by a zpm blasting the city itself
>>64434649Strykers were developed for the Stargate program :^)
>>64434540my [spoiler]wife[/spoiler] went to a shooting range just so she could shoot the mp5 "like carter in stargate"
>>64434296>it disintegrates bodies in one instant and without leaving any trace you say?
>>64434346>using an anus shaped device to shoot poos across the galaxy. What in the interplaneray diarrhea is this.
>>64435149>You're dealing with hundreds or thousands of populated worldsOut of which about a dozen are economically/strategically relevant. Even if you can't hit every Goa'uld world simultaneously you can still throw a great big narcotic wrench into their set up.
>>64435592>Willing gives his genetic material let alone genetic material from his home world to the Goa’uldBad choice hombre, them snake niggers are good at making life ending bioweapons
>>64434349stargate is board culturego back
>>64437035Tru dat.
>>64437051frogs on the other hand is reddit culture
>>64434296>port into enemy base>call them a bunch of faggots too scared to use wormholes>jump back through>close the iris and listen to them splat against it
>>64437171Pepe is 4chan that good too popular and became normie, that isn't the frogs fault.
>>64437171You can't have it both ways.
>reverse engineer the zat>make a giga zat>point it at an active gate>zap everything on the other side 3 times>delete the planet it's occupying
>>64437255That episode where they all just sat around and listend to hundreds of jaffa smash into the iris was metal
>>64437302The zat gun was a mistake and even the creators thought so
>>64437317Indeed it was, I'm glad they realized and moved away from that bullshit.
>>64437321>>64437317Why?
>>64437388>shoot once stun>shoot twice kill>shoot thrice to instantly disappear whatever you shotWhy use any other weapon or tool in any other situation?Why not scale the zat up against buildings or vehicles?
>>64437388Because it uses Gremlins logic.>First shot stuns>Second shot kills>Third shot DELETES FROM REALITYQuestions this poses:>1. How does the zat know it hit X amount of times? Is there a charge of energy that is applied to the target?>2. If there is a charge does it dissipate? If it doesn't, after the first shot you are within instakill range forever. If it does:>3. How long does it take to dissipate? 5 seconds? 5 days?>4. How does the zat know where to kill? Does it kill you if it shoots the guy you're holding hands with (oh gosh :3) twice?>5. Even if it is limited to a single person, how does it disintegrate their gear? Does it know what you're wearing? What you're holding?>6. If it can delete objects like guns, clothes, armour, boxes, Data's emotion chip, etc; can it delete a space ship? What is the reach of the entity the zat chooses to disintegrate?>7. Can you choose to disintegrate only someone's clothes off of them? If not, why?>8. If these things are common, why are they not used in mass formation like staff weapons? Could a line of zats delete a tank? A blast door? A stargate? A Cheyenne Mountain secret base?And this is before we get to the narrative issues a weapon like this poses:>How do we write a show where our heroes and villains can remove evidence of anything?>How do we write a show where our heroes can instakill everything regardless of protection?>How do we write a show where our heroes can not realistically be injured because the enemy's weapons are incredibly dangerous?>How do we write a show where there's a gun that can destroy anything except the 5000 exceptions we needed to make to make the show have any dramatic value?Just say 'No' to Zats!
>>64436816That was some homo shit, for sure.
>>64434346>bobs and vageneGoa'uld fucking shits are to blame for this too.
>>64437412Seems a heavy price to pay just to avoid a single scene where SG1 need to hide a body.
>>644342961. Go to another planet you want to wipe out.2. Set their stargate to open in the heart of a star 20 secs after you leave.3. Leave.4. Wait 20 secs.5. Problems solved.
>>64436816>recurring charactersFucking Daniel died 3x!
>>64437302>>zap everything on the other side 3 times>>deleteThis was a trope they mocked at least I nce before abandoning it.
>>64437412Michael Shanks wrote this post!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5QDgaxWE04
>>64434916>Although an MBT likely weighs far more than a gateUnobtanium has to be high up on the elemental table which should make it really fucking dense shit
>>64437459They realised too late they fucked themselves.>>64437526I don't- I don't-... See why you'd... Think so...
>>64434565shit would break on the ramp
>>64437526lel
>>64436782The best part of Enterprise was T-Pol's tits.
>>64438914They're not bad, but come on, this is the show that gave us Porthos (the best character in trek, period).
>>64438914The second best part was T’Pol’s arse, third is this chick
>>64438914>>64440621Stargate tits > Star Trek tit
im going to steal the idea of stargate with "gods" being in charge of a bunch of different humans from different systems and earth gets taken over by aliens during the first world war and now its 1999 humans serving some egytian like god to invade the other god cultures and they all fight. I will call it gatewars!
>>64434622>>64434414It feels like a lot of effort for a marginal gain, and their primary role has always been covert reconnaissance. A tank doesn't really help them stay stealthy
>>64440787Tau'ri tits > snakehead tits.
>>64440819Ancient Chinese proverb says: Is no shame in stealing something good. Ching ping chong cha.But honestly, it's a shame stargate never had any good video games. An xcom style game about SG-1 would be rad or maybe some strategy game where you're a system lord and gotta compete with others.
>>64440862Indeed.
>>64440787>>64440862The first episode had tits and bush iirc
>>64440872>strategy game where you're a system lord and gotta compete with others.Only if one of the core mechanics revolves entirely around how over the top and arch your characters outfit and mannerisms are.
>>64440872There's a game on Steam called 'Exogate Initiative' which is Stargate in all but name. It's basically Evil Genius except you're managing SGC and sending people on missions, with some light 4X elements on the galaxy map. Not perfect or anything but it's not a bad time.
>>64440872XCOM but in Stargate drag would be an instant sale for me. XCOM:EU even had the "science vs military interests" thing baked into it, just put Vahlen, Bradford, and Shen in SGC uniforms and we're halfway there.>>64440910Tried that. Was pretty fun but way too short and once you get to the 4X part it gets boring fast. But it was really cool while it lasted, and if anything a proof of concept that a game like that can work and be fun.There is a Stargate game recently-ish called Stargate Timekeepers, it's RTS in the style of Desperados, but might be worth looking at. It had development issues however.
>>64440898Of course that'd be a mechanics. You gotta impress them puny servants and flex on your competitors.>>64441042>Stargate TimekeepersDidn't know about that one. Might check out one day.
