I really want to drop a fuckload of money on a SD PCC with a ported barrel that allows me to shoot 115gr 9mm and make it subsonic.Would getting a B&T APC9 SD be the best gun for the money to buy if that's what l wanted?MP5 SD build kits are way too much money even without considering the labor involved.
why? subsonic 9mm isnt that much more expensive. plus integrally suppressed smgs spit out 9mm at really really low speeds so they're barely lethal
I bought the Stribog 45 and it's fine. Magazines rattle in the gun. Bolt release needs to be larger. AR pointer finger mag release is too far and you have to break your grip to activate it but I just use the thumb release instead.
Getting this
>>64435519Build a nice AR9 with a 3" barrel, all non +p 9mm is subsonic out of a 3" barrel. Then just a suppressor that will fit under what ever handguard you pick. Simple as. it will act the same as an SD Gun. Or you could get a BRT Car SD roller delay upper.
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>>64435639I want this but in their bolt action.
>>64435519The new side-feeding kh9 looks sick, sad it will never be in 45, and sad i'll probably never see an unsuppressed kh45 stateside. fuck you Karl brugger
Why are people buying PCCs that can't accept or be easily modified to accept an FRT in the current year?>>64435602>>64435618>>64435639>>64435519
when the FUCK is HK releasing the SP7....
>>64436029There is a company working on frts for the ruger PCs. Can't remember the name off the top of my head, but they're calling it an ART
>>64436029Can't afford an actual machine gun? SAD!
>>64435527>9mm>Barely lethalNoguns alert
>>64435962It would be better if it wasn't a folding mechanism. Thats just another failure point
>>64435519If you want to go subsonic, why not just do it in .45?
>>64437110I have a mac11, at 10k it is most certainly not worth it.
>>64437571because it suppresses like dogshit compared to 9mm for an equal size suppressor. diameter of the exit aperture is a thing.just use 147gr 9mm.
>>64437575What about with those specialty uppers you can get for them? Also does anyone have any recommended 147+ grain 9mm that have rounded noses? My mp5 doesnt like flatnoses when it gets halfway past the mag. sometime they work, and sometimes they dont
>>64435527retard getting shot by anything is a bad day, fudd take
70's SD pcc are so cool
>shooting 115gr at subsonic velocitywhat? These words don't make sense. just buy an mp5. it's got a tri lug.
>>64437707the great outdoors!
>>64437732suppressed 9s in the open air is fucking fun. You can hear the bullet smacking into the wood backstop over the sound of the gun firing. Most satisfying sounding firearm I ever played with.
>>64437580This. I never understood the need for SD weapons, especially from a law enforcement standpoint. Instead of ported barrel voodoo, just use 147 grain 9mm or literally any standard pressure .45 AARP and call it a day.>BUT WHAT IF YOU CAN'T GET 9MM SUBSIf you can drop the kind of cash needed for an SD gun, you can probably far sooner get a case of 147 grain rounds. If you're extra poor, practice with the 115 grain supers. You're probably wearing electronic earpro anyway, so the supersonic crack during practice is a non issue.
>Arms manufacturer tries to make pcc that doesn't look totally fucking gay after 1990 challenge [IMPOSSIBLE]
>>64435519I have a schmeisser ar15-9, it's awesome.Super fun. They have an SD version, too
>>64437580>suppresses like dogshitLiteral fake news. My 45 pcc is virtually indistinguishable from my buddy's 9mm pcc, both using quality cans, both are for all intents and purposes hearing safe, and can magdump outdoors with no ringing in the ears.I agree that 45 suppressors should be larger diameter but aren't. But you also have to remember 45 is leaving the barrel at ~850fps (or even 750fps if you handload 250gr) compared to 9mm's 1000fps. Which makes up a lot of the difference.>>64437741Ever tried a 45? You can see the bullet in flight with the sun behind you. The slow speed makes it even more fun than the 9mm.
>>64437779what, you got a problem with this? I'm sure she's got a great personality.
>>64437785>Ever tried a 45?not under the conditions you describe but now I want to. That sounds fucking cool.
>>64435519I really want a FORT230 in 357sig so I can make 115gr bullets go 1750fps.
>>64437932I want it so badly that I automatically assume it will never be on the market here. Looks real sick.
All I want is a .357 magnum pcc thats mag fed, semi auto and comes with a recoil adjustment system so you can also run .38 special. Oh and make it easy to put a brass catcher on it.
>>64436029Link me an ar build that's not dogshit direct blowback and doesn't have a buffer tube and I'll buy it.
>>64438038If you look at the mags they're very deeply ribbed, it's clear that the receiver is wide enough to accommodate 40/357 with perfect stacking, kind of like the Springfield Kuna in that it's a .40 design chambered in 9mm.Probably FORT have police clients in mind who (surprisingly, even in Europe) still buy new weapons in .40.
>>64438085the ability to do this and that is cool and all but fuck man i'd pay 2-3 grand for one of those in 9x19, I ain't that picky
>>64435519B&T owners are like Rolex owners. They vastly overpay for a decent product because they like the cachet of the name or are ignorant of better choices.
>>64435570Have you had any issues with it like what was reported with the 9? I was thinking of getting one or a USC.
>>64438973My first mag had a couple FTF but after the 100 round break in and first cleaning it's been flawless.I have the A3 model
>>64435618I really enjoy the no-name, 45-degree, backwards red dot on this one. Perfect gun to find in an evidence locker.
>>64437932Hello! Now I want one too.
>>64438960>better choicesGimme!
>>64438054>mag fed 357 mad semi autoHow about 44 mag?
>>64435602These are so fucking gross. Fucking abortion.
>>64441764I wish they still made these
>>64435519muh pcc. no bully
>>64438054>all i want is something complex that will cost more than im willingn to pay
Luv muh TP9
>>64436029I AM JUST WAITING FOR FRTS TO BE COMMON ENOUGH THAT I CAN JUST PRINT A DIAS
>>64443874Nice pic, nice gun. I want one with an FRT. Waiting anxiously on a drop in FRT trigger pack for roller guns that is three position (or heck even just 2 position for 9mm application), lever safety, and works with factory SEF or NAVY packs.
Bump this cock
>>64435527>suppressed smgs spit out 9mm at really really low speeds so they're barely lethal
>everyone focusing on making their PCC more quietNo. Louder.>inb4 not a PCC
>>64445527you left out the 'integrally' part. 115gr 9mm going at 900fps is dogshit.
>me when a bunch of zoom zooms are buying antiquated “spec ops” bullet hoses knowing they wouldn’t have the trigger discipline to not blow through their 3 magazines in a real firefight. The meek 16”+ shall inherit the earth
>>64445533Thats a 556 rifle you dumb nigger >>64445773>look at me guys! I cooked up a fantasy in my head where i am the winner and you are the loser!Post PCCs, fags.
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>>64445819>look at me guys! I cooked up a fantasy in my head where i am the winner and you are the loser!For real though. They’d be decent for home defense, but you’ll get anally raped by any jury if you are found to have used it. If you plan on using it in any scenario where you don’t care about juries, just know you will be outgunned by any other semi auto on the market. Unless you have the mother of stockpiles of 9mm and/or have good trigger discipline, you effectivess will drop to zero very quickly. That being said, dressing like a ninja with one of these would be quite dope.
>>64445542>you left out the 'integrally' part. 115gr 9mm going at 900fps is dogshit.And you left out the part where you're literally fucking retarded.
>>64445880Not everything needs an FRT or look tacticool
