What’s the most realistic SHTF scenario?
>>64438919Massive solar flare wipes the electrical grid.
>>64438919Depends where you live. Might be a hurricane, earthquake, industrial accident, flood, urban chimpout.
>>64438919climate change is happening now and is observable through rising global temperatures, melting glaciers, sea level rise, and more frequent and intense extreme weather eventsthe potential for catastrophic consequences are very real and we will feel them very very shortly unless we change our habits
>>64438919drought induced starvation, systemic agri collapse.
>>64438919More than likely another contagion like COVID, but way more deadly and easily spread due to how people are now vaccine hesitant and skeptical of efforts to stop disease spread. And now that America has gone full antisience and is loosing brilliant minds to Euro BioTech companies, it seems we're one bad flu away from shit hitting the fan.My second best guess is a slight bit of civil unrest. Might go on for a year or two, but eventually people will get sick of seeing Americans kill other Americans over which pedo jew approved candidate can usher in the next iteration police state.
>>64438926>WeThe poos and chinks are the main offenders.
>>64438926>>64438933This, climate change is the most inevitable "you must prepare for this if you want your children to prosper" scenario out there. Droughts, crop failures, fuel shortages/misallocation, mega-migration that will make the Arab Spring look like a vacation.
Nothing ever happens.
>>64438919Things keep getting gradually shittier and scared people keep voting for more extreme solutions, which don't work because the politicians are ultimately self-serving. The police can't be trusted. The media wants you to believe your neighbor can't be trusted. The courts are packed for whomever is in charge at the moment and free speech is dead. The economy is supposedly growing but the majority of the population seem to be working more, earning less and getting less and less healthy. Fertile plains are turning into deserts, rivers are drying and fresh water keeps being contaminated by saltwater. Your travel is restricted. More and more crazies seem to appear but you can't be sure if they are real or if every piece of news is now complete fiction to manipulate your opinion. Children aren't being born, no one gets to retire, old people live in perpetual misery. The shit never hits the fan because it has been liquefied and is being gently misted until you one day wake up and realize your skin is covered in a dried crust of shit.
>>64438919Camp of the saints.Maybe the vast infrastructure needed to keep this world running breaking down by incompetence being mandated by the civil rights laws.
societal collapse due to a variety of factors. to simplify I'll just refer to it as collapse. societies and civilizations collapse. it is the natural order of things. collapse follows a general pattern and can easily be prepared for>government begins losing control of territory and populace within it>law and order breakdown results rioting, looting, mass murder, destruction of services like firefighting, emergency medical care, water treatment etc>starvation, disease, and violence lead to large death tolls in urban areas. this is a process called "die off" in which the majority of the population rapidly shrinks. this process can go on for years but the bulk of the dying occurs in just a few months. this will happen a few week into the final stage of collapse the nice thing is that it's very easy to prepare>get out of cities and major urban areas>avoid nuclear reactors and areas close to nuclear reactors. during collapse reactors will not be maintained, some of them will melt down and badly damage the surrounding environment >prioritize areas away from nuclear reactors and cities >look for areas with large fresh water supplies. that's the hardest thing to get>stock pile food, clean water, medical supplies, various other items that will be impossible to get until society rebuilds>do what you can to preserve knowledge for future generations>avoid violence where possible. if you must be violent be as efficient as you possibly can. use every possible advantage most importantly enjoy the good times while they last. none of us will have /k/ bros
>>64438919>you're CO just bought itI'm gonna shove my foot up you're ass, howbouthat
Infinity Indians and spics coming to the US and ruining everything
>>64438951only because everyone else has outsourced production to them. Out of sight, out of mind.
>>64438993>if you want a good image of the future, imagine an indian stepping on a human face-forever>t. George Orwell
>>64439005Yeah industry just makes you not care about all the trash you have.
>>64438980This; actual civilization destruction events are relatively rare. What's more common is the dominant metropole declines gradually--then all slips away at once--and the hinterland twist in the wind for generations. If you're concerned about this, prepare for a world where you and your kin are mostly self-sufficient and can rely on the community in walking distance. I doubt it would be particularly violent. Sustained violence requires state capacity that lacking in a SHTF scenario.
>>64439005If they had the same average standard of living as Firsties they would still be the main offenders by way of population consumption.
>>64438958>>64438926Complete horseshit used to justify whatever Bill Gates wants.Never forget in the 70's they predicted an 'Ice Age'.
>>64439114you're the sociopolitical equivalent if a lepper and should be thrown into a ravine
>>64439128>t. Mudblood.
>>64439114Fuck off retard
>>64439128You can't spell leper properly, therefore you don't get to vote.
>>64438919Cities walled offCities starveEveryone globally held up by international trade (the browns) starves.Humanity enters golden age.
>>64439128>>64438926>>64438936Post gun with timestamp
>>64439114And then it was global warming, and when somebody brought up the inconsistencies, they started calling it "climate change." It's almost like the planet undergoes natural heating and cooling cycles that can be documented by studying geological formations and the notion that mankind could ever influence this is laughable.
SHTF is a narrative that is largely amplified by hostile Russian operatives seeking to destabilize democracies from within. This kind of topic is a relic from a time when Russian influence was not adequately countered on gun boards, so demoralized individuals could fantasy about the end of western society without any pushback.
>>64439128>doesn't refute itlmaohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQRqr9_jw5I
>>64438919war in taiwan leads to a sudden end to advanced technologies due to supply chain disruption. The economic crash this generates is far worse than the Great Depression due to the sheer amount of debt that there is today. That and the costs of war, which the country, win or lose, won't be able to cope with, leading to real hyperinflation (this time for real, not the 10% """"hyperinflation""" of 2020 ameritards talk about). Domestically this leads to civil war (shtf). Internationally, in addition to the shtf of ww3, you would see the US stop all aid to Africa due to financial reasons. Africa imports an overwhelming amount of its food, so this will mean millions of africans will rush Europe. Aside from being shtf in itself, it will also trigger civil war there. The prolonged destruction of Asia, Europe and the US will mean an actual dark age for the world as these are the only places that create (and are able to create) high technology and complex societal systems.
>>64438919Nothing. COVID and the Floyd riots and inflation and Jan 6 all passed with no big boog event. It’s all wet farts. The worst you’ll see is more random acts of violence from desperate people if the economy continues to get worse and more people feel like they’ve nothing to lose.
>>64438974>2013I wonder where that anon is now.
>>64438919>What’s the most realistic SHTF scenario?unemploymenttax auditcancerdivorcedeath of childdeath of spousetraffic accidentaccidental fallarthritisparkinsonsCOPDtintiitusleaking roofcar theftburgalry while you are outhouse fireelectrical shockheart attackroof leak or minor floodfuel or electricity price spikerecession/crtpto crash/gold crash/stock crashcloud computing collapseaccidetal 3rd degree burneyesight damagedominant hand lossdiabetessexually transmitted disease up to hivcrime/homless/drug spike in local area
>>64438919>What’s the most realistic SHTF scenario?Natural disaster (hurricane, flood, etc.) destroys key infrastructure, so everyone fleeing clogs the highway, and everyone not fleeing turns into a looter, bandit, poacher, etc.Despite being the most common type of SHTF scenario, it can't be romanticized, so people who prep for these rarely talk about them.
>>64438921grids are now hardened against carrington scale events and have been for a long time in the fist world, most modern electronics are also exremely robust including basic consumer stuffit would be a non event with some gps disturbance and minor bullshit in the turd world nations
>>64438926>sea level riseThis has never been the issue with climate change. Nobody ever talks about the actual issue. The ACTUAL issue is when the ice melts, it is fresh water, which runs into a salt water ocean, which dilutes it. The Gulf Stream, which keeps northern Europe warm, ends up getting fucked because it is totally reliant on the salt concentration being as it is. If the ice melts, this fucks that up and the gulf stream goes down to Africa. Which means it brings heat to an already hot place. So instead of Africa being 40 degrees hellhole in summer on average, it's 50 degrees hellhole on average and 60 or higher much more often. Places like South Africa already have severe drought issues. So what happens? The Africans flee north to the cooler parts of the continent and that either results in conflict or results in those already there moving north to now -20 degree in winter on average Europe (with -30 and -40 in Nordic countries) and all the issues that brings. On top of the agriculture in Europe dies, so mass starvation on top of masses of browns and blacks heading in. They're already doing it NOW imagine if they've got a choice of staying in a 50 degree shithole or going north? So you either have entire civil order breakdown due to economies collapsing and starvation or riots over the fact the government doesn't do anything to stop all these people invading.That's the issue.
>>64438919Zimbabwe but everywhere
>>64438926This except it's not anthropogenic.
>>64439167>Names of things can't change>You have in your life said either "it didn't used to be this hot" or "this weather is wild">We figured out a certain aerosol was harming the ozone, got it's global use reduced by 98% and the ozone recoveredBut yeah it's a big hoax at least the oceans are getting warmer than ever, makes for better swimming.
>>64439158>Cities walled offWhenever I read shit like this it makes me think that some of you have never actually been to a city before.
>>64439266Your scientific understanding is based on the plot of pic related?ffsclimate cycles are not new or terrifying they have been around forever and are incremenetally slow providing ample non catestropic adjustment for our species, we literally evolved and are selected for them https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles>>64439266>That's the issue.(you)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnjU7ZAlFjwBULLSHIT
>>64438919Cant believe no one has mentioned it yet, da fuck is happening to this board, but its unironically nuclear war. I dont mean T2 apocalyptic nuclear war, just a small, contained nuclear exchange. China tried to invade taiwan, north korea jumps into the opportunity to try to take the south, the US jumps into the fray with the help of japan and other regional powers. Taiwan will probably fall as fast to the Chinese as north korea to the south koreans. Eventually the US would get its shit together and and try ti retake the island, thats probably when the chinese call scorched earth on taiwan and SHTF.That would stop global trade for years and its not even a low probability scenario.
>>64439305Guam getting nuked would probably be the most likely scenario right now. A stupid exchange in the Baltics is second likeliest, but Putin is a cuck so that's a distance second.
>>64439284Isn't 80% of Greater London's population not white?
>>64439305>its unironically nuclear war.Covid like nothing burger at best, the USSR is long gone and Russia is only a threat to itself. China?Literal suicide for them. Not happenening. Some fallout with a short have life is not the end of the world either, we've let off someing like two and a half thousand of the things on land sea and air and here we all are. Don't start on nuclear winter its a soviet propaganda meme that was intened to push western nuclear disarmament. Fallout from nukes is nothing like the long lived and utterly destructive fallout from a reactor core meltdowm either.
>>64439320>Isn't 80% of Greater London's populationwere always subhuman even in 1850No real change.
>>64439321>short half life sry typo
>>64439322you know what, I can't be angry at your statement
>>64439305>That would stop global trade for yearsa few months, global trade, stock markets etc and even international bank settlements were carrying on while stalingrad was fought you know
>>64439329it's trueIt was ateaming mess of immigrant slums and criminals then too. Awful place then and now.
>>64439158Was this the end goal of those Atomwaffen crackheads?
>>64439337>Was this the end goal of those Atomwaffen crackheads?Acting as a finger for the GRU run RIM (Russian imperial movement) to start a terrorist campaign and overeachging and alienating state response (do a terror, attack substations, spree shootiig etc). Usual kremlin shit.
>>64439284For a lot of posters here it's overwhelmingly likely they've never been in a place with more than 100k people in it, or larger than the average minor US suburban town. They sheer magnitude of a real 10+ million megacity from the density to the complexity of systems to the sheer square surface is not something you can drop a happy little caveman into and expect them to process it. Places like Tokyo, Beijing, Manila, Mexico DF, etc are unironically big and dense enough to tank a small nuke.
>>64439158There are more people of native European descent in Europe now then there were before WW1.
>>64439344>big and dense enough to tank a small nuke.Fuckin Jacksonville is something like 900 square miles. People don't realize just how much urban sprawl we have in the US.
>>64439321>Covid like nothing burger at bestYou mean the thing that spiked prices globally for 6 years and counting? And while it did kill 10m+, most of them were relatively old. Countervalue nukes would be killing working-age people in scientific and industrial centers. Even if only one Chinese or American big city got hit, the global economy would fall to its knees.
>>64439320I'm not talking demographics, I mean the actual labor it would take to physically wall off an American city.
>>64439337>>64439340>AtomwaffenI'm not really well read up on these guys, but didn't they go from pretending to be Nazis to now larping as communists?
>>64438919Losing your job to AI or jeets.
>>64439404Only an issue if you are lazy.You're not lazy, right?
>>64439430lazy is just a synonym for white
>>64439437So you're lazy then? Sucks to be you.
>>64438919The most likely scenario is the one we see unfolding now. 1. Mass immigration of unwanted aliens into every White European living space. 2. Unrestrained jewish central banking usury. 3. Corrupt inept rogue anarcho tyranny governmance with no connection to what citizens want. 4. Total social breakdown. 5. Total political breakdown. Everything is just going to get worse until our country reaches a breaking point. It's already happening. >>64439128The green finance climate hoax was a scam to justify the invasion of unwanted aliens and to give more control over how our country functions to the parasites who have wrecked our countries. >>64439135He's right, moron. >>64439274It is a hoax, which is why everyone promoting this big and obvious lie has oceanfront property. If the green finance climate hoax were real, it would be priced into insurance premiums. It's a lie used to steal more productivity from people on the basis that the weather is doing something.
>>64438926>>64438958Climate change is beneficial in many ways to several counties and there are regions where agricultural produce is going to increase
>>64439344>For a lot of posters here it's overwhelmingly likely they've never been in a place with more than 100k people in itBullshit.
>>64439167Yeah, HUMANS have no influence. chinks, nigs, and indians on the other hand do.
>>64439388I don't care what groups like that larp as or what idology they claim, their members are always dumb as rocks whether commie or other, you have to be to wind up being groomed to be a traitor, I look at who controls them, funds them who their connections are with and who they communicate with and how.
>>64439457>ideologysry typo
>>64439442I build docks and the new ones have to be built at least 2 feet higher than old ones to keep them from flooding at high tide. Sorry your schizo rant got demolished
>>64439477>muh personal anecdoteIt's likely due to erosion or safety concerns, not global warming.Actual sea levels haven't changed by any significant measure. If they had, then various predictions made 10-30 years ago would have come true, none have.
>>64439477Sure but that's nothing to do with man made global warming or an impending apocalypse. The romand once grew grapes and made wine in what is now England and as recently as the 19th cetury the thames in London used to freeze over and have fetes held on it. All you are prooving is my point here>>64439289>climate cycles are not new or terrifying they have been around forever and are incremenetally slow providing ample non catestropic adjustment for our species, we literally evolved and are selected for them>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cyclesAlso NTAIts not that hathing ever happens but what happens is shit like this>>64439246>unemployment>tax audit>cancer>divorce>death of child>death of spouse>traffic accident>accidental fall>arthritis>parkinsons>COPD>tintiitus>leaking roof>car theft>burgalry while you are out>house fire>electrical shock>heart attack>roof leak or minor flood>fuel or electricity price spike>recession/crtpto crash/gold crash/stock crash>cloud computing collapse>accidetal 3rd degree burn>eyesight damage>dominant hand loss>diabetes>sexually transmitted disease up to hiv>crime/homless/drug spike in local area
>>64438919In the U.S., realistically it'll be a natural disaster like Hurricane Katrina or a really big, terrible earthquake on the West Coast with resulting short-term localized area insecurity. It's not like Russia which goes through periods of relaxation and repression where it's actually a threat to your life to go and protest something so you have to operate "underground" as a matter of necessity. We don't have those skills, they do, it's part of the psychology. The U.S. has advantages. People think there's some dystopia on the way but it never actually arrives. People see a homeless person sleeping on a park bench and they catastrophize it, but they don't think about how the bench looks pretty nice because we actually replace them when they wear out. Well at least in a lot of places.
>>64439477fuck off retard
>>64439457One of their members who was prosecuted by rabbi Trump's DOJ in his first term was a nuclear scientist with a very popular youtube channel. They were brilliant but didn't realize the full weight of the federal government would come down on them because they wrote a letter to a jew and made the jew feel bad. The first amendment doesn't apply to anyone who wants jews to be less powerful.
>>64439345Hey, you're not supposed to point this out. Nor point out that whenever I land in America, I swear the pilot fucked up and did land in Africa. A fat Africa, that is.
>>64439439Yeah, it sucks.Manual labor jobs for illegal immigrants will still be around in 10 years. But say goodbye to well paying office jobs, that's first on the chopping block for AI replacement.
>>64439305>just a small, contained nuclear exchangenot possible. every single wargammed scenario ALWAYS escalates nuclear exchanges to full blown armageddon. You think any country is going to just throw a single nuke? and then after ww2 nukes prescident have been broken, other countries will say fuck it if they nook we nook.
>>64438926luckily most of Europe will be allright while the sun will be burning niggers>>64439345good we need more
>>64439321>Russia is only a threat to itselfIn case anyone one this board needed more evidence, I saw it in a WSJ article earlier today. Anyone remember that chink drug chemical supplier that slipped house arrest in Mexico? He apparently tried to flee to Russia via Cuba. The Russians turned him back at the airport. But when the Cubans got him back, they detained him and grilled him, before handing him off to the Mexicans, who gave him to us.The fucking Cubans, who can't even keep their grid operational for a month, have more competent spooks than the Russians do at this point.
>>64439203I ran into him last year and he recanted a lot of it saying he’d matured from being a Doomer, and he rejected myself and others praising his foresight.
>>64438919War breaks out and you get your ass drafted, you die in a pool of mud somewhere far away of your home.
>>64439590>every single wargammed scenario ALWAYS escalates nuclear exchanges to full blown armageddonIs this true, tho? Back in the day, there were policy wonks who believed in an incrementalist approach to nuclear exchanges. They drew off of Clausewitz, I think they even got hung with his name as a moniker. Their whole way of thinking is what drove the Kennedy/Johnson approach to Vietnam, applying nuclear war theories to conventional ones. Did they just vanish overnight? Did Vietnam so thoroughly discredit them that everyone decided War Games is the only true and accurate portrayal of nuclear war?
>>64439261That doesn't stop personal computers, phones, planes, cars, civilian boats or shipping barges getting fucked. It only protects the servers, it does nothing client-side.
>>64439638In current and likely future conflict Ukraine/Taiwan/Iran there is no way one country launching a nuke in those scenarios won't lead to future nuclear exchanges. Once that seal has been broken more nukes will come.
>>64438919We finally leave the geologic ice age when the quaternary glacian period ends. All the ice melts, raising sea temperatures to the point that we get hyper storms, such as frequent hypercanes, just like back in the Late Eocene.
>>64439261>believing thisThat is to keep people from worrying. The grid is a patchwork of old and overloaded systems.
>>64438919Civil war, it's the one SHTF that universally applies to all societies.
Saw a bunch of posts of NAPAs threatening violence next month when their food stamps run out. We may see small scale SHTF
>>64439388I know only a bit about them. But from what I know, they’re literally the “are we the baddies?” meme. Most of them are pagan. Some are unironic satanists. They belong to the O9A, a group that believes that Nazi Germany was the ultimate manifestation of Satans will on earth. They would rather side with Satan than worship a “Jewish God.” At least that’s what I recall.
>>64439692They should add an airport and missile batteries to the White House, add another 500 million to the ball room bill.
>>64438919Realistically, something that causes the power grid to fall apart or a severe natural disaster like Yellowstone erupting. Runner up to this would be Yugoslavia-type racial/ethnic tensions that lead to a civil war
>>64439388Going by the early history they were almost certainly a sales funnel for intel nerds seeking blackmailable patsies.
lotta neverserved faggots think it's gonna be cool tactical shit in the streets but in reality it's gonna be that mickey mouse hands tweet
>>64439657The nukes will fly when India/China kicks off and it will probably be the poos.
>>64439344>drop a happy little caveman into and expect them to process it
>>64439775What Mickey Mouse hands tweet?
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>>64438919Me trooning out
>>64440034>>64439775
>>64438919everything gets progressively shittier but with no clearly defined point at which everything has become shit, so you just kind of accept it and watch as your previously safe country turns into the third world
That nothing happens, but you keep your eyes glued to twitter taking every schizophrenic alarmist post by mentally ill retards as clear sign that the world is ending (just two more weeks)
>>64438919>What’s the most realistic SHTF scenario?Jackson-Vanik emigres - still Soviet - digitally false flag a Red Chyna cyber attack on utilities infrastructure in tandem with Sneedhadist Tet Offensive bullshit.
>>64439775>>64440034>>64440066What city would have the most brutal urban warfare? I’m thinking Chicago.
>>64438974>>64440069Honestly, I have more faith now more than ever that things will change. The 2010s were worse than what the 2020s are shaping up to be. 2018-2019 in particular really did feel like the end of history.
>>64439203Either he had the big sexo and left this place or he exclusively lurks.
>>64440171Why do you feel that way? The worst day in 2016 seems like an average day from this year.
>>64439775This is equally dumb faggotry to "dude the boogaloo is going to be so much fun!"Civil Wars in most places are disorganized because the local governments lose authority and there is a massive power vacuum, which leads to disorganization. But in the US, the general public doesn't follow randos with a gun, they follow legitimacy. And due to the structure of the US, from its highest point to its lowest, there is always legitimacy somewhere; and always some local organizer to look to that will keep things at least somewhat civil.This is why the US Civil War was what it was. The State governments, both then and now, carry legitimacy in and of themselves. The most brutal part of a Second Civil War would be the early crackdowns where people are lined up for looting and trying to be militia for the other side, not "oops I got caught by the Lincoln Brigade, what am I gonna do?"
>>64439775This sounds pretty based if you were the one doing the executing, desu.Me personally, I'm a hang people from street lamps kinda guy. But bullets to the back of the head are a classic too, especially when paired with repurposed drainage ditches.
>>64440183Everything felt stuck in one direction. Positive change, or any change at all seemed like it would never come. Things now feel like the people at least marginally have a say in their future. It’s still not great, but I prefer it over the late 2010s end of history “everything is going according to plan” vibe.
>>64440154I think Austin is a dark horse pick.>deep blue bastion in a generally red state>big gun culture throughout the state though, so probably heavy presence of those john brown clubs>plus cartel types looking for new territory>and groids being groids, because there isn't a city in the South where that wouldn't be true
>>64438919You picking up shit and throwing it at a fan.
>>64440154Chicago has one of the higher Albanian and Serbian populations in the US so you aren't far off Second worst would probably be LA or New York City, already enough crazy motherfuckers there as it is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFKfqrdP6xstangentially related to cargo cults but I love this documentary so much
Honestly, the easiest scenario that I can think of is the cities turning into permanent riot zones>high concentrations of people>politics and religion increasingly devide and piss off said peopleAnd then all you need is time to do most of the work for you, to turn pretty much all cities on the planet into tribalistic craters
>>64438919Civil war is basically impossible here, so fires, floods and drought are really the only realistic SHTF scenario. I'm insulated from the worst of it (independent energy, water and theoretically food, on high ground with firebreaks), but my neighbours have been selling their property to younger professional couples taking flight from the cities, who are totally unprepared, but know what I have because I've helped them during floods and fires before. If SHTF and disaster relief isn't coming, they're going to come here and camp outside my gate until they get desperate enough to try to steal from me. I don't know if I have it in me to defend my property from people I know have helped in the past.
>>64440171>>64440183I still believe in the primacy of politics. The left is actually taking a different tact this time by matching Trump's more tooled-up approach with animal costumes to create a deescalating effect. But this will gradually phase up towards 2028 when there will be a series of relatively large strikes (Teamsters, UAW, etc.) happening at the same time and these things will sort of combine in fairly large-scale demonstrations. The left operates as kind of like a dimmer switch, it phases up and down. The right is like an on/off switch, it's either "overthrow the gubmint!" or sit around and bitch about the gubmint. They have two modes.
But the "No Kings" thing combining with the strikes is the plan for the left. Just to give you a heads up. This stuff now is really just dress rehearsal.
>>64439442>If the green finance climate hoax were real, it would be priced into insurance premiumsIsnt that happening right now in Florida in response to the increasing frequency and severity of hurricanes, and California due to the increasing frequency and severity of fires?Rapidly changing climate is one of the greatest security issues facing the West and retards just cover their ears
Slow decline into brown nonsense
>>64438951Given the humidity on most of their territory, the poos are also gonna be the main victims.We just got to keep the hamam's door close, maybe take a trickle of smart poos, and the problem will take care of itself.
Iran begins to implode. The junta scores a direct hit on Israel with one or two of the boosted fission warheads it or Pakistan has managed to assemble. Possibly by FOB delivery. The Israelis retaliate, triggering a regional conflict into which Turkey and Russia enter. Conflict rapidly escalates beyond the region and the Europeans are drawn in. Nobody is able to put the toothpaste back into the tube. Regions see their energy, manufacturing, agriculture and infrastructures wither. Global starvation, pandemic and mass death result in a huge die off. The largely untouched African population migrate on a scale never witnessed in history. Strife kills billions, and pandemic sets in.
>>64439158>lets nuke america into a third world hell hole so we can be 80% white protestantprotestant proving to be massive retards again
>>64440342stop making sense Anon
>>64440550Whatifalthist isn’t the brightest candle in the menorah. In fact he’s legitimately mentally ill. He made a whole series talking about how he’s in communication with Odin among other things. He also drinks Kratom which is probably making it worse.
>>64440342The fires are started by shitlib morons.
>>64440557you've been found out
arson is a weapon
>>64440342>>64440557
>>64438926It's always the same with you commies, you use real problems to create division and gain power without even attempting to solve the problem. Does any of you clowns talk about solutions? Do you call for the construction of higher flood dykes, water reservoirs, better civil defense? No, of course not. What we hear is "Give us power! Give us money! Give up your freedom or [insert newest boogeyman here] will kill us!". You just want your fucking revolution to become tyrants. PS: You useful idiots will die in a Gulag.
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>>64440646>Do you call for the construction of higher flood dykes, water reservoirs, better civil defense?Yes, but faggots like you will say it isn't real or too expensive
>>64440665I wrote "real problems". Learn to read and try harder, Climate Marxie.>>64440658This, they don't care for solutions.
>>64440665It isn't real. It's a problem created by people who are intentionally destroying our country. If you want a public works project to inhibit the jewish militia antifa's wildfire arson attacks, clear the dead wood and brush ahead of the driest hottest months. https://californiapolicycenter.org/environmentalists-destroyed-californias-forests/https://nypost.com/2025/01/09/us-news/bass-newsom-ignored-past-warnings-about-la-wildfires/
>>64440689>jewish militia antifaPlease stop, you help the Commies in making everyone disagreeing with them look stupid. Some accelerationist marxiest lighting wildfires doesn't mean climate change isn't real.
>>64439775American civil war would look more like Syria or Libya than the ACW with defined geographical blocs. You will have patchwork entities loyal to the Federal government with military units remaining loyal or turning over to state or local forces seemingly at random. South California will have an internal civil war with upstate militia forces/Cascadian secessionists who will shut off water to LA and SF. There will be lots of attacks on electrical grids and water & sewage infrastructure all over the country which will effect big cities the most. This is what white supremacist militias seem to have been drilling for over the past 5 years.You won't have many pitched battles but uniformed squads without insignias bursting into houses in the middle of the night to kidnap and execute suspected insurrectionists. Messy airstrikes on dissenting neighbourhoods.
>>64440739>You won't have many pitched battles but uniformed squads without insignias bursting into houses in the middle of the night to kidnap and execute suspected insurrectionists. Messy airstrikes on dissenting neighbourhoods.All you tacticool faggots can rest assured that you will be top on the list to be black bagged at 4am before never being seen again. The US military will treat you like Iraqi insurgents but this time they have home field advantage and like 20 years experience canoeing third worlders in their own homes
>>64440730The Green Finance Climate Hoax is a scam intended to deindustrialize White European countries. Antifa is a communist jewish militia. Sorry you had to find out this way.
>>64440739>white supremacist militias"Comrade, you will join the local urban warfare fentanyl troon squad. Report immediately to Commissar Tyrone."
>>64440739I dunno, A succession federal crisis leading to year of the 4 emperors/tetrarchy style temporary american split up that last for a couple of years would be kinda neat.
>>64440762Yes, its a scam, but not in the way you think. The problem is real, they didn't have to invent it. What they do is construct a false narrative on how to deal with it and transform it into a tool of oppression. This is what you call the Climate Hoax and yes, it works like you describe it. >communist jewish militiaDoes it matter if the people trying to kill you are of jewish or mexican or european? Its the ideology that matters.
>>64440791NTA but your worldview seems very small and you sound like a sad person. no one forced (you) not to have kids. do the jews cause diarrhea too?
>>64440764American leftists will ironically probably stay loyal to government forces, either federal or state depending on the situation. If there's any ethnic breakup/race war like those militias want it will be Mexicans US military troops deserting and forming their own cartel-tier military government in the south west. Beaners make up 1/5 of all active service military personnel and 1 out of 10 officers. Surprisingly blacks have pretty much the same demographic share of the army.SPECOPs are like 90% white though and I could see Green Beret units deserting and forming some kind of white supremacist Zeta cartel with militiamen as their canon fodder. DESU American civil war will probably look like a mix of Syria and Mexican cartel land, the ultraviolence execution videos will be insane
>>64440777>Does it matter if the people trying to kill you are of jewish or mexican or european? Its the ideology that matters.Well, if it wasn't for the jewish 1965 Immigration Act, my country wouldn't be full of unwanted Mexicans. Communism is a jewish political ideology. So both problems have the same common root source. Carl Marx' entire male lineage were rabbis.
>>64440791It is real, but its less man made and more milankovitch cycles.Taking ground water levels and average rainfall amounts for granted when most of the lakes and water in the northern hemisphere only exist as left overs from the ice age that doesn't easily recharge would be a mistake. luckily it won't be instant and we'll have decades to adapt. but to think that earths climate and environment is ever at a point of stasis is retarded though.
>>64440791Ok, so what is more likely?A global, decades spanning conspiracy of "da jooos" to take over the world or scientists being wrong about their predictions and our politicians, being opportunistic, abusing said predictions to suppress and exploit us? Our political elite is way more chaotic, incompetent and less monolithic than you think.
>>64440800The jewish press discouraged White Europeans from having kids but encouraged every other group to have as many kids as possible. Then they said we have to open the floodgates to the unwanted aliens because we had too few kids. Feels good to have political literacy.
>>64440803>2/5 of US servicemen will abandon their comrades that they've been serving with for years because uhhh race warYou and any other anons who believe in a drop of the hat race war are fucking delusional. if anything it'll be the wignats/retards like you that'll start shit at the first sign of trouble; and they'll be rightfully stomped by National Guardsmen of many races who all grew up watching spongebob and eating mcdonalds.
>>64440810The weather isn't static and paying increased taxes isn't going to improve the weather. We don't need to give the jews who control our financial system more power over our countries when the weather changes.
>>64440835>The jewish press discouraged White Europeans from having kids >discouragedIt's not like they were putting sterilization agents in the drinking water. It's people's choice whether they take media that seriously.>Feels good to have political literacy.Says the guy posting twitter screenshots holy shit. Also>capitalizing whitelole
>>64440813The Green Finance Climate Hoax has been going on for some time. It appears to be championed by the Rothschilds who founded Israel with their central banking usury. https://files.catbox.moe/7st1i3.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/ulu6hd.mp4https://files.catbox.moe/rq4y58.webm
>>64439261>grids are now hardened against carrington scale events
>>64440852The Population Bomb, written by our "Greatest Allies" the jews Paul and Anne Ehrlich. "The Book That Incited a Worldwide Fear of Overpopulation""As 1968 began, Paul Ehrlich was an entomologist at Stanford University, known to his peers for his groundbreaking studies of the co-evolution of flowering plants and butterflies but almost unknown to the average person. That was about to change. In May, Ehrlich released a quickly written, cheaply bound paperback, The Population Bomb. Initially it was ignored. But over time Ehrlich’s tract would sell millions of copies and turn its author into a celebrity. It would become one of the most influential books of the 20th century"Ehrlich, Paul R - The Population Bomb.pdfhttps://files.catbox.moe/aro5no.pdfhttps://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/book-incited-worldwide-fear-overpopulation-180967499/
>>64440889looks like catbox censors these, disappointing https://buzzheavier.com/dyh1l1q675rthttps://buzzheavier.com/jhpv75erzt4lhttps://buzzheavier.com/54rxbixi3z93
>>64439525Don't worry anon. You might not believe in climate change, but your insurance (house, auto, and medical), your food producers, and bankers do (they'll play dumb for the camera, but not on the bottom line.) Hell, people today still don't believe in evolution. Reality doesn't care about your beliefs.
>>64438919Civil wars seem to be the most commonly recurring one (some countries even have multiple ones within the same decade) so that's a logical place to start prepping for.
>>64438951Per capita, the worst is still western consumers, countries manufacturing for them because you outsourced heavy industry to them don't really count.
>>64438919Don't see it happening at all outside of the world collectively hitting snake eyes. I think solar flair claims are dubious but could maaaybe do it. A just right sized asteroid could do it. A total nuclear exchange could sort of do it, mostly if the follow on events like smaller powers deciding now is the time for WW3 while the big kids are occupied could sorta do it. Personally I think if it happens it'll be due to the Increasing proliferation of advanced medical equipment and techniques leading to a bad actor letting loose an actual apocalypse tier contagion with high lethality and a delayed method of action. I'm not talking about bird flue or antibiotic resistant plague or anything like that. I'm talking about a chimeric illness that presents with mild ILI symptoms but either has the ability to infect the PNS and then CNS or produces misfolded proteins(prions) on its death similarly to how many bacteria produce toxins from their cell walls on death(ex food poisoning). They're technically possible but nobody studies that shit or at least admits to it. It'd just be one of the dozens of new strains of ILI that pop up every year and makes the rounds. Nobody will know anything is wrong until months or a year later when people suddenly start showing Parkinson's, huntingtons, or rabies symptoms. Half or more of the population will already be dead men walking, experiencing rapidly worsening neurological symptoms. Once people realize how bad it is and that the disease is still spreading around(no selective pressure to reduce lethality due to method of action) the wheels will completely come off things over the course of 3-4 months.
>>64440689Actual Brain Rot the human bean.
>>64440935>take pictures at low tide>it's the same as high tide 100 years agoNot really proving your point.
>>64439345Modern fertility rates will reverse that within a generation or two.Nevermind the flood of thirdworlders that drive the percentage of Europeans down, even if the nominal number goes up
>>64440196>Me personally, I'm a hang people from street lamps kinda guyYou, personally, sound like the wallflower kinda guy who does whatever he's told irl and doesn't even have to balls to ask for a 2nd fucking pack of ketchup for his fries.It's always you thrift store gentics clowns with the ultraviolent murder and civil war fantasies between walmart shifts.SODA SPILL IN AISLE FIVE BUDDY!WAKE UP SAMURAI, YOU'VE GOT SOME SHIT TO MOP UP.
>>64439261That's simply not true. Our electrical infrastructure is beyond outdated and legitimately held together with tape and chewing gum. In fact, nearly every countries is. And even if it were up to snuff, this doesn't account for consumer electronics which are also not (why would they need to be if the grid goes down?) and basically every type of modern transportation. If there was a substantial solar event, we would be absolutely fucked
>>64438926Neat. Now face the wall.
>>64442409Emps are a meme, put up evidence for your claims of it wiping out the grid and consumer electronics or shut up
>>64439158Was this revealed to him by odin during a bad trip?
>>64439158So...Twisted Metal?
>>64439775>Michael Collins profile picture
>>64442454https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_1989_geomagnetic_storm?wprov=sfla1
>>64438919Running into organ thieves while out jogging.
>>64442113Killing natives with your friends in an online game of EU3 was the bomb!
>>64442113You took an obvious joke post way to seriously, pal.
>>64442912It's amazing how many of our jokes about the nations in your pic are still the same. Belgium is the only one I don't hear much about current day, but if it comes up it's almost always to talk about Leopold's quest to become the most feared tyrant in Africa.
>>64439289Anon you retard the earth is in a COOLING cycle and temperatures are still climbing.
>>64439344>a lot of posters here it's overwhelmingly likely they've never been in a place with more than 100k people in itThe opposite is overwhelmingly more likely.
>>64439373You don't need a literal wall, just roadblocks on the main roads. The smaller roads would block themselves once the entire city set out to escape on them.
>>64443411I don't think you realize how big some cities are. You could do it someplace like Manhattan, but look at a city like LA. 500 sq. miles, tons of freeways, surface streets, access roads, major ports... you'd need a massive army to blockade a city like that.
>>64443316it's not its in the last 1/3 of a major heating one
>>64439775>lotta neverserved faggots think it's gonna be cool tactical shit in the streets but in reality it's gonna be that mickey mouse hands tweetI love the way you think a vicious outburst of political muder and kidnappings WILL happen because you are a radicalised fucked in the head spastic.
>>64443566we're talking about SHTF scenarios in this thread ESL cocksucker>I love the waykill yourself redditor
>>64442568>>64440907>>64439261>grids are now hardened against carrington scale eventsYes..they are. Following 2003 solar storm causing a blackout in Malmö, Sweden, due to geomagnetically induced currents (GICs) EU wide standards and the IEEE in all first world nations intoruced hardening and mitagation that means grids will survive even a carrington scale event. You;ld think for someone obessed with dooming on this bullshit you might actually try and know something about it, but you don't. Neither do EMPs staop cars from staring or fry induction coils. If you educate yourself on bullshit from internet doomers then you are a tard. It's a much bigger problem in sweden becaus eof the nations location. Qebec spent a billion hardening transformers as just one random expample that's pretty much mirrored throughout the western nations places like the USA, EU, Canada, UK etc etc. Much of this was driven by insureres demands, for example this Loyds report form 2013 in its conclusion "The electric grid can be hardened against the flow of geomagnetically induced currents in regions with the highest risk of outage. Current blocking capacitors and GIC monitors can be installed to protect transformers and regulate the power flow. While these measures represent additional costs to grid companies, the cost of prevention is much smaller than the price of damage a single storm can create. "https://assets.lloyds.com/assets/pdf-solar-storm-risk-to-the-north-american-electric-grid/1/pdf-Solar-Storm-Risk-to-the-North-American-Electric-Grid.pdfYou are quite simply, wrong, this has been ongoing work often interlaced with regular maintence tasks for twenty years. Simply put youa re wrong and another mentally ill doomer moron suffering for a rationalisation of their anxiety problem who knows fuck all loose on the internet.
>>64443597I'm a native english speaker and I'm pretty sure have passed more academic exams and have a vastly greater knowledge of literature than you little tard. Whenever I see some post that I assume they are a jeet.
>>64443597And you came here from reddit in 2016 too. Fuck off back there doomer tard.
>>64443614>academic exams>vastly greater knowledge of literatureyou sound like that edgy fedora kid from like 10 years ago who posted a video of himself talking about his "intellectual intelligence" fucking kekjust kill yourself now faggot
>>64443617>enters thread where people are discussing SHTF scenarios to call them doomersI feel like I'm in a looney toons episode kek wtf is going on with you morons
>>64443630>discussing SHTF scenarios to call them doomersyes doomers mentally ill people with anxiety disorders who then seek to ratyionalise them by looking at utter shit on the anal cavities of the internet instead of cutting down on caffine
>>64443618And you sound like a knuckle dragging spastic that crawled here from /pol/ by way of reddit who was a dropout in secondary education.
I have hope that the chinese will invade and be like>"har shar shoe, yt, did you are of knowing about communism n shiet?"And then everyone gangs up and rapes them all red dawn style
>>64443643>SAAR I AM PASS ACADEMIC EXAM SAARR I HAVE GREATER KNOWLEDGE OF LITERATURE SAAR
>>64439266>Which means it brings heat to an already hot placeIf the African Humid Period is in any way a good model for this scenario, you're going to see more moisture and precipitation in Africa, not less. This in turn leads to a reduction in the extent of the Sahara and less droughts, which in turn leads to more food surpluses. Africa becoming the next global breadbasket is more likely than mass-migration to escape starvation.
MUH SOLAR FLARE ELECTRICITY SHIT AND GLOBAL WARMING AND SHITTarded.
>>64443646I love the way jeets and other subhumans such as you turn projection up to maximum when they are identified by their ESL posts.
>>64438919This "meme" is retarded, worded retardedly and likely made by underage diaspora.
>>64443658>gets btfo>starts projecting and jeetposting even more
>>64438919Hoards of hungry brownoids coming to eat you.
Wartime famine.The ag sector is fragile and defence disproportionately targets rural areas in conscription, typically deeming seasonal workers non essential to primary production and trying to ship urban refugees with no experience in to do their jobs.How much food we export in wartime is a major determinant in who our allies are, so the government figures it's better to export our food, cause local famines, to get third world counties fighting on our side. How many millions of Americans are on good stamps right now, can't afford food already? So everything with a calorie value will be rationed, overtly or otherwise.And that's when the security of dry store foods becomes problematic, that's when manufacturing facilities can't process and preserve fresh products, where local famines occur.New York has food because the mayor of new York corruptly obtained it. Washington has food because they stole a state grain reserve and are essential workers... apparently. But the Midwest towns which produce seasonal workers will have all their food seized, all their men conscripted, they might be living next to a cattle ranch and a steak would cost a 5.56 round in the chest from the army. And I'm sure everyone has a secret plan but the army has been planning this a hundred years. Caching food puts you on the list of people who've cached food, it's likely that to get fuel, food, medicine, anything you'll have to register in a fema camp and at that point have no access to whatever you've stored. And this might be a war America is winning hands down, with no enemy action in the states. Your death would tend to be the price of that victory.
>>64439274Turns out the ozone hole grows and shrinks over the course of a cycle that's repeated itself and therefore can be measured. Banning CFCs isn't the grand victory you've been told that it is.
>>64439638>>64439657Times like this, I really miss OPpie. He pointed out--repeatedly, over several years--that there were all kinds of scenarios, and lots of wargaming and war plans included deliberate pauses in order to give the opposing NCAs a chance to talk things out. The whole "one flies, they all fly" meme doesn't hold water when you start to think of it from the perspective of a head of state or senior general desperately trying to keep as much of his nation intact as possible on a Really Bad Day.
>>64439736I love the fact that ERCOT is (mostly) firewalled off from the other two. Hopefully there was enough house-cleaning after the Snowpocalypse that something so stupid as not allowing the natural gas pumps to burn natural gas to keep from freezing up (use electric heaters powered by windmills!) can't happen again. The end of green subsidies can't get here soon enough.
>>64440542>The Israelis retaliate, triggering a regional conflict into which Turkey and Russia enterI'm largely ignorant of geopolitics, who would realistically come up to bat for Iran in this scenario? I guess maybe I could see groups using the destruction to Israeli cities as their chance to start shit.
>>64440459>maybe take a trickle of smart poosCanada tried that, once you break the poo-seal the shit don't stop till the shittin's done
>>64440342How many deadly hurricanes made landfall this year? How many were predicted?
>>64438919Most likely a citizen uprising against an immigrant population caused by the government protection of a immigrant criminal/s who have attacked local children. Its would probably be quick involving some sort of flash mob protest that turns lynching than a brief police response and settling down. So a couple of days to weeks and then back to normal. So for most people don't be the wrong color or religion in the wrong place and avoid living where a protest happens and you won't even be affected unless you catch a stray. Stay inside for a few days eating pizza pockets and watching YouTube shorts and things will be back to normal before you have to go on a toilet paper run.
>>64440806It really kinda bothers me when folks insist that it's all on "da joooos", and as proof point to a bunch of people over the last couple centuries who had two things in common: 1) at least one Jewish ancestor at some point in the last thousand years, and 2) a complete refusal to obey (or even believe in) God. I'd argue that 2) is far more predictive than 1) ever could be.
>>64438919Currently, as the majority of things are,The most realistic situation is [insert your cunt]'s welfare system cannot be sustained and the rise in crime/violence due to the financial gap making people "drop out of the bottom" is statistically predictable, systemic and widespread.It won't be like some mass sudden uprising. It won't be defendable. It won't be predictable if or when it happens, to you? Maybe. What are the odds.It'll be like Brazil where suddenly you've got multiple people pointing guns at your face to rob you and you couldn't have seen it coming. Plot twist - the people doing this are much more likely to just shoot you anyways.Shtf? It all happens predictably. Go read some history on fallen empires.
>>64443852Wishful thinking. Half of your own people hate you and more than half of the other half are boot licking cucks.
>>64443852Sounds like the UK's future
>>64443604MASSIVE, YOU FUCKING SPARKY GEEK. Say a flare is so large it blasts off a significant portion of the atmosphere Maybe even roasting the side in daylight. Those in the dark may survive, but that grid is toast.And then it is only a few days until cannibalism in cities.
>>64443886>more vatnik projections So what blew up in Russia now?
>>64439114Last I heard the ice age started but global warming added net heat.
>>64439284It's a figure of speech
>>64443604A Carrington-tier event would knock out very nearly 100% of all satellites in orbit around the Earth. Among numerous other problems.And, you're just plain wrong. Power grids and sections of power grids would pop and fry all over the planet. Some parts are hardened, but very few of them can operate standalone. There would be small pockets of the planet with power, but something like 80% or 90% would go dark for a very extended period of time. Months, not days, at best.
>>64443693>How many millions of Americans are on good stamps right now, can't afford food already?Funny you should ask. Was watching a news segment last night about the government shutdown and the fact that SNAP accounts won't be funded for November. Talking between 45 and 60 million Americans affected depending on how much they rely on their SNAP benefits. Food banks are trying to prepare for a 10x increase in demand almost immediately.Watch the news for the next few weeks to get a taste of what sudden food insecurity for a huge chunk of the population looks like. There will be some profound effects, such as grocery stores losing large amounts of income due to plummeting sales, especially as we are coming into Thanksgiving & the holidays. Also very likely, one of the more depressed holiday shopping seasons in memory. The economy is already shaky at the retail level and nobody wants to spend money they don't have and are unlikely to get in the near future, add tens of millions of people suddenly experiencing food insecurity and consumer spending in general will plummet. A dozen rich people buying a third yacht won't bump the graphs.
>>64443886>The vvest has fallen! Based and trad Putin will save us xaxaxa
>>64440318So encourage 'em to prep now, frame it in terms of the stuff you've already helped with, community is the most important thing in a SHTF scenario, build it. You're already halfway there.
>>64438919so in that scenario you're a dem fighting the government?
>>64444018>>64444187"The UK is fucked" is not a zegroid opinion, its an astute observation. Not every negative opinion/view of a western country comes from the people you hate.TZD, curse vishnu, tianenmen square 1989, whatever
>>64438919nothingever happens
>>64444075>Months, not days, at best.Years, if not decades. Building the grid we have now took decades.
>>64444068No, that's revisionism.The logic train was>industrial pollution releases sulfur, which causes greater albedo (that's reflection into space), which cools the planet and leads to acid rain>this explains a cooling period during the 70's (and the 40's)>but then suddenly temperatures go up during the 80's and 90's>uhhhh, it's carbon dioxide! yeah, the greenhouse gas that's less effective at retaining heat than water vapor! that's the cause of all our woes!Even the most basic research into climate dynamics reveals all sorts of strange inconsistencies, but that doesn't get you funding.
>>64443852Wishful thinking, the post.
>>64438919The amount of stuff on the surface gets too heavy for the earth to hold and it starts to crack and fall apart
>>64438919Financial depression and national bankruptcy which sees a significant spike in both crime and unrest
>>64440337Frogs are our thing, fuck you leftistsPraise Kek
>>64441697>they would have less pollution if they weren't exporting thingsAmerica would have less pollution if we halted all of our manufacturing as well. Retard.
Honestly, probably people getting pissed at the gov, which leads to assassinations and then terror attacks which the gov responds to with overwhelming force, causing a cycle.Many of the officers and guys in charge are ME vets, and they only know how to deal with those guys, with brutal methods (ie torture sites). They will likely use what they know, which will backfire hugely with the American people.And now with 3d printing and drones and the internet, any half decent militia group with 20k could be able to ambush and put up a good fight, even more with foreign funding and large members.Add in food insecurity and it will be a slow decline with bright hot spots. Controllable, but too many civvies will die. And food running out in the big cities would make it hell.Second to that is a massive Hurricane Katrina event, where a large amount of looters would be shot and some small white supremacist gangs go around lynching blacks and everyone with a gun and some buds fancy themselves a warlord. This get's 10x worse if the feds don't respond or are unable too. And if half of what I heard about Katrina was true, it will be a horror show. Part of me thinks that people don't want to talk about what happened there, as I heard about the Nat Guard dude who was ordered to flood poor neighborhoods to protect rich areas, and the shootings.
>>64438926>muh climate changeThis shit would've worked in the late 2000s when most of the anons ITT were kids and boomer schoolmarms made up bullshit like "we'll all be dead by 2012" because it was a degree or two warmer than the previous year, in reality it was just a convient excuse to cut back on PE hours and punish boys for not wearing retarded hats ("girls don't need to because they have more hair :)").>t. roo
>>64438919God gest sick of all the faggotry and unleashes a second flood
>>64446043>which will backfire hugely with the American people.Like it backfired hugely in Irak and Afghanistan.
>>64443852Lol, two more weeks, your president literally rape kids!
>>64446052Exactly, add in Vietnam too. The US military is great at frontal warfare, but doesn't seem to know or care how to manage a civilian populace, which the Brits ironically are great at doing.In more capable hands, I think they could easily handle controlling the country. But when all you know is drone strike, spec ops, bribe and torture, that does not a compliant civilization make.They have a big stick but don't want to give a carrot.
>>64439246Underrated>cloud computing collapseevery day I hope for this, even though I'd be out of a job
>>64446047anon you're a retarded nigger with middleschool hangups. My whole fucking county flooded last year because we've skullfucked the normal weather patterns and it's only getting worse.
>>64438919The Shrike
>>64440935Water levels haven't changed much because the majority of ice that has melted is sea ice. They have actually gone by 3 inches over the course of the last 100 years though.
>>64439628>I ran into him last year and he recanted a lot of it saying he’d matured from being a Doomer, and he rejected myself and others praising his foresight.
>>64438983>the vast infrastructure needed to keep this world running breaking down due to incompetence being mandated by the civil rights laws.FTFY, and its the most likely.
>>64438926The problem is climate change is a slow (comparative) boil. SHTF is more 'in the span of weeks or months or days' not years or decades.>>64438936Actual high death count disease, too. I was making a case elsewhere or maybe it was here that you understand why Europe went from>"Why do you believe witches exist? Only pagan retards do. You're not a heathen, are you?"In the 'dark ages' to >BURN THEM ALL AHH BURN THEM ALL WITCHES EVERYWHERE WITCHES!!!!In the 1400s - because of the PTSD trauma of having upwards of half the population fucking die.We went loco with just less than 1% death rate. Imagine what 25% death rate would do, imagine 50%. I honestly think you'd have at least a few cases of Americans doing human sacrifice, IE "God has abrogated the old covenant - we must sacrifice someone and this time he won't intervene to save him like he did Abraham"
>>64446047>"we'll all be dead by 2012"That was the end of the Mayan calendar cycle
>>64438926>climate change is happening
>>64445893You’re a fucking idiot
>>64438936It's a boy that cried wolf situation, not anti-science. People in charge and "scientists" lied for the majority of the pandemic, people saw science being politicized repeatedly and don't trust known liars. The next biological issue will be worse because people don't trust "scientists" anymore, for good reason unfortunately. Too many activists have "credentials" as "scientists" this goes for global warming, pandemics, etc.
>>64446604no YOU'RE an idiot FAGGOT
>>64438990>avoid nuclear reactors and areas close to nuclear reactors. during collapse reactors will not be maintained, some of them will melt down and badly damage the surrounding environmentMost will shutdown safely/automatically, and for a majority of them it'll be a long time before they infrastructure surrounding them decays enough (or a natural disaster) to possibly cause an issue.
>>64438919probably an asteroid. despite our current technology we're still very shit at detecting these. It'll probably be a mid-sized one. small enough to be completely unknown until it's 24-48hours out, large enough to kick up enough dust for crops to fail for the next 10 years. it wont be guns that gets you through an asteroid event. You only need enough guns to dissuade others from taking what you have. Mostly it'll be banding together with enough resources, and having valuable skills that you can use to trade for goods.
>>64439736AI already has the grid running hotter than it was designed for. Plus, it takes 3-4 years to be able to produce a new extremely high voltage transformer substation. Supposedly, if six of them blow a quarter of america is fucked for the better part of a year
>>64438919SNAP benefits end.
It will be a combination of a slow decline of in standards of living as the global economy implodes and a climate induced mass migration from shitholes that boils over at some future breaking point. Climate change doesn't actually hurt a decent portion of the West and is overblown for us. But if you live anywhere in the tropics, you're fucked because heatwave will kill people regularly. People will try to gtfo especially since these places have artificially high populations from all the western aid that is now drying up. You all should read some un documents to really grasp the scale of aid. It's going to be like the bronze age collapse, which I'll remind everyone did not lead to the collapse of the two major civilizations who were at the core of the world order, Egypt and Mesopotamia. Like the west they simply were too powerful, even if they were weakened for a time.For the average person in the west it wont be that terrible. Complex electronics and the sorts of things that were luxuries in the 1600s will get rare and more expensive. Violence will get more common and things will get tense. But people are far more adaptable and resilient than you expect and I think most of us can get by with smart appliances and coffee anyway. I'd go as far as to say expecting to live with these luxuries is just a sign of how delusional we all are. Standards won't dip bellow what we had per capital in the late 40s. Less, but not much less.Truth is that most people won't fully comprehend the collapse even as it comes crashing down. The western state is capable of organized violence far in excess of what is necessary. Our societies will be transformed by it, and I expect despotism to make a come back in the west for the next few decades, in one form or another. I bet we'll see plenty of footage here and crack jokes as fpvs strike at various groups closer and closer to our homes. In the end perhaps one or two Balkan states crumble, and parts of the american southwest will be ruined
>>64446985oh shi-
>>64446985Checked. Even the Romans knew, keep the people fed and entertained, and they won't overthrow you. If SNAP doesn't come back, expect revolution and massive unrest in 2 months minimum.Are you ready for the food wars anons?
>>64443826What ever happened to him, anyway? It wasn't until you made this post that I realized it's been a long time since I've seen a post of his.>>64446049If you'd read the book, you'd know that the second cleansing comes by fire. The rainbow exists as a symbol of God's promise never to wipe out all life by flood a second time.
>>64446693Listen giga idiot faggot nigger, all the weight in the world is already here. We’re not gathering materials from other planets to build all our shit. IT’S ALREADY HERE.
>>64438919South Africation. >Everyone is corrupt>police are ineffective>you are more likely to be arrested for defending yourself than attacking others>areas of cities become lawless with hardly even token law enforcement response or presence>economy steadily declines>but everything is just good enough that you can keep going>it's not so bad that everyone snaps all at once>you still have too much to lose to do anything>nothing happens, it just keeps getting worse and worse, incrementally, year by year, until 20 years go by and you can't even recognize the nation you live in any more
>>64443618>>64443646>>64443687>retarded subhuman gets outed>starts spamming in a fit of impotent rageevery fucking time
>>64438926>weNot my problem. I dindu nuffin.
>>64438919peak oil leading into water crisis leading to famine leading to thirdies clawing at the walls of firsties retard firsties sabotaging the walls and letting thirdies flood in only to realise their mistake but not be able to fix it because its too lategovernment realises they cant control anything in this state and use non nuclear weapons of mass destruction on basically any non critical people
>>64438919Negro and arab containment measures failing and this >>64438926 forcing our less evolved equatorial cousins to flood into the developed north.Either this will >destroy civilization and set natural selection back 150,000 years in some areas while leaving others as behind as they ever were (and likely will ever be due to leftover technology lowering the survival threshhold), leaving only a dwindling ruling elite>or steel it against the reality of genetic contagions when everyone in israel+europe+east asia becomes extremely racist to the point of being ready to turn on their own undesirablesImmediately all you will experience is either>having to tow the party line and being some degree of fucked if you're an untermensch by any sane chinks/white mans standards>or living around violent retards who are genetically programmed to be ideally narcissistic and reactive, and not excessively intelligent for stone age survival rather than life in civilizationIn either case, there will be SOME period of apes looting. Basically, no matter who you vote for, no matter what you say, at some point, you will have to repel primates who simply want to loot your shit, kill you if they feel like it, and rape if they want to.they are still people and individuals like them do live among our races, it is an everpresent problem yes, but there not so fucking many that it's one out of five (aka the father of 2 kids and both his baby mommas) that is a literal fucking neanderthal.
>>64447636>inb4 we whites wuz neanderthalswe whites gained some useful and shitty genes from neanderthals while ~others~ gained absolutely nothing. neanderthal is still an insult. excessive neanderthal DNA is where depressive incel autist syndrome comes from. that's actually the personality type neanderthals evolved - tightly clannish, distrustful hoarders who only lived in loosely organized family groupsremember species naturally tend towards their lifestyles no matter what they think of them!
>>64438919National chimp out
>>64446141>I LIVE ON AN ISLAND AND WE HAD A STORMIt happens on islands.
>>64443511I know perfectly well how big cities are. Square mileage doesn't equate to more choke points. You could isolate greater LA with about 12 roadblocks. The forest service roads and dirt tracks would take care of themselves.
>>64438992>you're
>>64438919Nuclear war between two non-great powers devastates the global economy and destabilises the West. Choose one out of:>India/Pakistan>Israel/Iran>North Korea/South Korea
>>64447532The thread is about. The future. What you describe is already the case in countries like France and UK
>>64438926>melting glaciers, sea level risethe only climate situation that should truly cause humans to worry is an ice age.
>>64440646>it’s always the same with you commiesDamn, I didn’t know every climatologist in the world was a commie
>>64443805Does it? I would be interested in reading about that if you have a source. Nta btw.
>>64447671I live in western north carolina in the mountains faggot
>>64447616>peak oilThis has been forecast since the '70s, and we still haven't hit it. But it'll be the next decade for sure, right?
>>64439246accuratepeople are worrying too much about something that will send everything and everyone into utter chaos. worse off than that is when your life gets fucked over for absolutely no reason and no one gives a shit, no one cares, and you are condemned to exist.a junkie driving fucked up can kill your entire family and he'll be out in 10 years max. you are left with nothing but rubble. people should be way more worried about how fucking stupid life can be in this regard.
>>64448515conventional oil production peaked more or less on the predicted schedule, but the doomers hadn't accounted for expanding unconventional production (shale, tar sands, deep offshore, etc) as rising prices turned more difficult extraction methods profitable
>>64438919This-Revelation 13:16-1716 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.——Jesus Christ is the only way out. No gun will save you. Only Jesus.
>>64438919Zombie apocalypse. I've been ready since 2011. Soon.
>>64449436>most realisticJesus won't save you from a methed out nigger with a knife bro
>>64438919nothing wagie no matter what happens you'll still have to work tomorrow
>>64449447One could even argue that jesus sent the methed out nigger with a knife
>>64438919>What’s the most realistic SHTF scenario?SLOWLY, SLOWLY, THE USA TURNS INTO BRAZIL... THEN SLOWLY TURNS INTO NIGERIA.>at this realistic rate the usa will look like SHTF in about March 2051 but by then you'll be old and of no value and more interested in incontinence shoes or a robot to make waffles
>>64438919The most realistic scenario is that nothing ever happens.
>>64449510>allah's snackbar moves in mysterious ways
>>644494472 Timothy 3:1-51But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 5having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.——For 66 books written over a course of 1,500 years by about 40 different men, I’d say it’s worth looking into.You’re looking at things from a human perspective
>>64449518I'll be in my prime
>>64440342Call me wacky but there are a lot of coincidences in these natural disasters and people profiting t. floridian
Everyone keeps saying Brazilification. I don’t know much about the state of Brazil other than favelas. What else about Brazil makes it the worst case scenario for Americas future?
>>64438919One where the solution is socialising and getting along instead of having tons of ammo and canned food.
>>64449707>2 more weeks until le trad west falls See >>64449526
>>64438919>pls have a civil war cumradWhat blew up this time?
Everyone keeps saying that climate change will lead to massive migrations out of Africa and other such places, but isn't a scenario closer to the African Humid Period more likely? Higher global temperatures could lead to higher precipitation in the Sahel and Sahara, leading to the creation of vast tracks of arable land. Even if the equatorial areas are abandoned, why couldn't countries like Chad just absorb most of them?
>>64450241>Jews import millions of browns to EU>Climate warms, Sahara becomes arable>Millions of browns move to Sahara farms since wipipo countries don't have jobs 4D chess?
>>64445597Sorry vanya, nobody believes your seething and projection about the UK. Everyone just watches your monkey dance in vague amusement and wonders what blew up in Russia.
@64447581>he's still going
I enjoy prepping because I most of the equipment for camping anyways, but I think there won't be a SHTF scenario. I just think western countries will become Brazil, that's it. More crime, gated white communities, barely working infrastructure, shitty economy.
>>64440154NY easily. Im thinking of the bridges,tunnels and transit getting shut down leading to 9 million people turning into caged animals all of whom are 150+ different ethnicities. Insanity couldnt describe it.
>>64440550Demographics are everything, europeans and the japanese repaired all the WW2 damage really fast and went on. Just take a look at African countries who kicked europeans. They will never be able to maintain the infraestructure without the aid of NGOs
>>64449440What would you do if the outbreak started and you slipped on a banana peel? What then?
>>64449707Brazil isn't the worst case scenario, it's just the most likely. Worst case scenario is Afriica.
>>64438919Biological weapon released by terrorists or rogue state.Surprised we haven’t seen more attempts at this. I was predicting this since way before Covid and remember having a website with a counter of cases on my hotbar from when it was single digits.Intense martial law with lethal force and mass casualties but likely back to (the new with even more government overreach) normal in 2-3 years.Think the movie contagion.Except think how hard people rioted when just given the opportunity to during BLM. Then picture riots when people are actually hungry and sick while unable to get medicine.It won’t be like the walking dead or anything cool. It’ll be like the siege of Sarajevo for a couple years but I’m pretty sure that classifies as SHTF.>>64446399This. I didn’t get the covid vaccine since it was a bunch of bullshit and the government was trying to use the pandemic for their agenda. Once there is an actually deadly virus we’re fucked.
>>64440646>you use real problems to create divisionanon is explicitly calling for unity and collective action you knuckle dragging partisan retard
>>64451059I'll leave a good loot drop and somebody will yell, "thank God for red necks!" when they find it.
>>64439373Also where does the wall go? It's not like there's just a hard line where you're suddenly out in the boonies, it's all a gradual taper in density.
>>64443897>Say a flare is so large it blasts off a significant portion of the atmosphereThen we're totally fucked for reasons unrelated to our reliance on electronics, genius.
>>64439330the 3rd reich was paying patent fees on american tech it was using to kill americanswar is a racket
>>64438951they emit now because they manufacture our shitand we've been emiting since the industrial revolutionand in the US so much is burnt just sitting in gridlock everyday because it refuses to build decent public transportation infrastructure
>>64451290>Once there is an actually deadly virus we’re fucked.Not really. If it is actually deadly, people will be clamoring for an (effective) vaccine, and doing everything they can to stop the spread. Covid wasn't taken seriously by thinking people because there weren't corpses in the street like we were promised. If shit gets real, people will gladly quarantine or they will be gladly dead, and it will sort itself out pretty quick. Taiwan crashing the global push for ai would cause some chaos, and ultimately help get our society back on track.
>>64451694>refuses to build decent public transportation infrastructureBecause they don't wanna police the public transportation so it's not safe/pleasant to use, so it doesn't get utilized, so it doesn't make money on fares and no one sees it as important... therefore no reason to waste money on it.
>>64451697>Covid wasn't taken seriously by thinking people because there weren't corpses in the street like we were promisedcorrectnow put your military planner hat on (you can't because you're a midwit)what does it all mean? (rhetorical question which I will answer in a minute)well, it means if you want a countervalue bio-agent, it needs to be either slow (airborne HIV type thing) or binary
>>64451701nahthe true reason is the car industry lobbies (and does other, much more heinous things) to kill any public transport projects
>>64440154Washington DC and Northern Virginia>capital will be contested for its obvious symbolic value>Northern Virginia is key to controlling the capital >houses some of the most critical institutions in the American military-security apparatus (Department of Defense at Arlington, CIA at Langley, FBI and Marine Corps at Quantico)>whoever controls it can also assert de facto control over Chesapeake Bay and thus not only two of the 20 largest US ports (Hampton Roads and Baltimore), but the largest naval base on the planet>Northern Virginia is a historically strongly Southern region that's been progressively filled with transplants from up North (or in other words full of two sects of people who are diametrically ideologically opposed to each other, in addition to the preexisting racial animus)>Northern Virginia becomes a giant killing field with the extreme right and extreme left massacring each other with the goal of ethnically cleansing the state and thus being able to assert control over Washington DC
>>64451725Baltimore is gonna be hell on earth, what with the local warlords and whatnot
>>64438919Super AIDS
>>64451744Date I say, airborne AIDS?
>>64448515>rightyes :)
>>64438919Everything keeps getting more expensive and the number of whites keep dwindling.
>>64438926Really bitch?
>>64440739>it's gonna look like dunecoon religion shitfits instead of the actual civil war 2.0!Retard.
>>64446399Witch hunting didnt kill a lot of people and its high point was several hundred years after the black death.Pop pysChologist ptsd interpretations of history are always shit.Lots of people dying and mortality salience somehow often bodes well for the character of a society.Especially sickness since it culls the old
>>64446052>>64446069>backfired >literally destroyed them so hard they had to wait for the US to willingly leave Great idea, you should tell the Confederacy! Oh wait....
I'm curious if Africa with solar+aircon will finally get on it's feet, if it doesn't then that's final confirmation of the racist's theories. If they pull a Singapore (Lee Kuan Yew said aircon was the key - installed it in all gov. buildings. Humans don't work efficiently in stifling heat)Reminder that Africa is much more genetically diverse than African-americans. I have hopes for Rwanda at least
>>64452256At some point, you're going to realize international politics actually affect countries and their internal affairs, economies included. Maybe later.
>>64451028I've always wondered if those Jewish tunnels have ways outside the city. They probably lead to private docks, and if worse comes to pass, they'll use those cartel-style semi-submersibles to sneak their people out.
