Why haven't the Americans switched to using quad copter drones
>>64439341>depicted: a photo from over 15 years ago.Americans have been using quadcopters for a long time you irony-brained Alzheimers patient. Skydio X2D and Redcat Widow are the two main squad/platoon army quadcopters. R80 is the big size dropper one that has a laser designator gimbal and it dates back to the Afghanistan era or earlier, notably with the Rangers. Paladin is more of a USAF limit thing but it's a hexa/octocopter with a radar and shotgun for interception. For helicopter type small drones in the army Black Hornet is called the SBS and Ghost-X is called SRR/MRR. Then there's the Puma which is a jumbo fixed wing version of the Raven in your pic and is still used today, although it's been replaced in many units by the Jump-20 which is a VTOL version.
>>64439370noooooooo, amerikkka hasn't made anything new because i say they havent and they havent been in war or doing anything
>>64439370>R80And I should add these are the famous headline companies getting the mainstream mass-production contracts for big army's everyday troops. There's a whole second band of smaller boutique companies doing the small production runs for cool units.
how come you never ask why italians or canadians or germans or the british aren't doing something?
>>64439410Why haven't the italians or canadians or germans or the british switched to using quad copter drones
>>64439508because the italians are brown, the canadians and british aren't humans, and the germans are stupid.
^The great k intelligentsia, everybody
>>64439583yeah, what's your point?
>>64439341We have. We got rid of the Raven years ago.
>>64439410Lmao you find out when they bomb the FSB office you're posting from
>>64439341Ukraine and Russia are both using commercial quads because they need drones NOW, militaries that aren't in an active war can spend a couple of years testing designs before picking which ones they are going to build millions of.
>>64439922false flagging zigger
>>64439370>>depicted: a photo from over 15 years ago.that can't be r---- nvm.
>>64441714It’s crazy that the US has been using man portable drones since 2006 and nobody ever talks about it.
>>64444197Or the fact that the US is a full decade ahead in testing and integrating drones in air combat and support roles. It's not about the platform, it's the system.
>>64444197Ravens are old shit, basically just an RC plane with a camera taped to the nose. IIRC they were around for the early stages of Iraq round 2 and are still in active service and production. Pretty neat imo, what's neater is its predecessor first flew in the late 80s and has been in use since Iraq round 1. It's just shitskins and techbros acting like they somehow discovered RC planes and helicopters exist and have applications in war. Neither party will admit or even recognize what they're peddling is old hat, it'd hurt their egos too much. They still can't accept we've had systems to counter UAVs since at least the 2010s
>>64439410no one cares what they're up to
>>64439341>>64439370Delta Force/CAG and SOCOM have been using DJI drones for more than a decade, and only recently stopped using them due to the Pentagon raising security concerns about using chink quadcopters: files.catbox.moe/pfmvu4.mp4www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/2706082/department-statement-on-dji-systems/
>>64439341no needplane drones are better
>>64439508>>64439537All three are using drones. Britain and various EU countries are even supplying them to Ukraine.What even is this thread.
>>64444197>>64444207>zigger-tier amerivatnik cope.Picrelated is a twitter account of an active-duty officer in one of the few Ukraine-style drone units recently created in the US Army (by grassroots efforts of low-ranking officers).Most of his relevant posts are about the retardation of the senile boomer top brass undermining their efforts. For example, the official doctrine forbids the use of drones in areas of friendly artillery operations in order to avoid the risk of friendly artillery shells accidentally smashing into friendly drones in mid-air (reread this couple of times to fully appreciate the cretinism of this loony-tunes scenario).So the good news is that there are people on top of this shit, but the bad news is that they're not the decision makers, and we can only hope there won't be a major war in the decades it takes for the senile boomers to naturally die out, because the alternative is the WWI scenario of learning that cavalry charges don't work against machineguns the hard way.
>>64444318Well, if @literallywho said it, it must be true.
>>64444318>reread this couple of times to fully appreciate the cretinism of this loony-tunes scenario
>>64439341because they are inefficient toys for stupid cavemen
>>64444318>the risk of friendly artillery shells accidentally smashing into friendly drones in mid-airThirdworldbro, that's been a known (and very real) danger to aircraft since 1915.
>>64444318Army has nothing to do with this. Their only role in an upcoming conflict will be for long range fires. Find me a reporthat says the Marines do the same. Boomer brass probably thought they were referring to 50 foot predator drones because that's what they've been operating since forever.
Has America turned drones into a gun yet, I feel like that would thematically appropriate, like take a rocket tube and put a drone shaped to fit inside it and shoot it out.
>>64444426Think they’ve tested more or less that on an AC-130 and/or C-130, forget which maybe both. There’s also a render floating around of them loading MV-75s up with such a system as ad hoc attack helicopters since FARA got cancelled. Probably been tested on a few other platforms too I just can’t keep up with all the drone news.
>>64444426These are called canister-launched munitions, the .mil also calls many of them Air Launched Effects (ALE), but I don't think they have to be canister-launched to be ALEs. Raytheon Coyote, Anduril Altius, Lockheed Outrider, and a few others.Infantry have the Switchblade 300, 400, and 600, these can also be launched from planes. The 400 is RATO, and the 300 is the same size and weight as an AT4. The UVision Hero is another non-US system.
>>64439341quadcopters suck, single class II plane is several times more efficient when it comes to recon
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