Is it the best soviet-era tank upgrade so far?https://www.armyrecognition.com/news/army-news/2025/serbia-debuts-new-m-84as3-tank-to-counter-modern-anti-tank-weapons
>ZTZs>Chonma>Oplot-M>T-72 CZ/PT of polandNo.
Essentially, Eastern European tank modernization is a bunch of nonsense that involves adding a ton of reactive armour to reduce the polygon count of the tank and make it look like a NATO tank.
>>64440182Tanks are unironically obsolete especially for poorfag nations like Serbia. If you can't afford a 10000+aircraft airforce like the US and Chynuh to bomb your enemy into the stone age you need to drop the fancy shit and get cheap easily massproduced shit that works and is lethal. Lightly armored+drones and precision artillery is the way to go for thirdy armies, sovietminded retards that don't get with the program will get smoked and lose wars.
>>64441548You're more retarded than a dead goatfucker
>>64441552No I am a thirdie from a shithole that hasn't produced a single tank in 40+ years, our industry is mostly gone and we are a goyslop services economy. We are not going to start now and we shouldn't be retarded to spent 10+billion for 100 goywagons that we might see in 2040++ if the West doesn't collapse that is.We can start producing fpvs literally tomorrow and we already have a factory for MRAp like armored cars and 1000+ arty pieces. I am simply a realist, you are retarded.
>>64441565>Everything I can't have is goy-xI hate thirdies so much it's unreal
>>64441587Stop letting the Jews rule you, it is that simple.
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>>64440182It's currently the best tank in the world.
>>64441607>da joooooz is the reason my country is shit>what do you mean our own population is the one driving it into the ground, it's da jooooooooooooz!!!!Thank you for being living proof that israel is righteous in genociding your kind.
>>64441548True but that was only the case for the last 2 years. Before then tanks where incredible because the only things that could kill them where ATGMs supplied by wealthy countries so any rebellion without foreign backers couldn't do shit against you.
>>64440182The covers on the lights make the tank look horny.
>>64440182>no CITVNot even a modern tank desu
>>64440182Kosovo status?
>>64441871I Just Hope the likes kill more normal cattles and normal swines.Expecialy the sex havers
>>64443611RWS sensors act as a CITV.
I hope we get some good video of Ukrainian M84s.
>>64442601It looks tired to me.
>>64445939Some recent /k/ino pics:
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>>64447914>>64447917>>64447919Glad they made it there. Hopefully the Slovenians might supply them some in due course.
>>64440194Late model Chunma's and any later Nork tank designs are post Soviet at this point, the latest ones are so different that they are in their own category.
>>64440194>ZTZNigga what? It's a completely different design.
>>64450482Modern Chinese and Nork tanks aren't Soviet based, they actively reject the fundamental principals.
>>64450482Check the ZTZ 88, 98-99 (early), autoloader aside the ZTZ99A and modern Chonma shows enough differences, but the previous ZTZ don't differenciate that much compared to the T-62/T-72, the difference is a neater ERA applique.Their designs pre 2000, when they were poor, weren't ambitious, to not say they were making T-72A-tier crap to fill that role and without a lot of expectations, read about the Type 62 and you'll understand how low was the bar for them when they were poor. North Korea was similar before the Chonma 216, when they found their own vein of tank-autism.
>>64447914>>64447917>>64447919where the hell did they get these
>>6445114488, 96*, 98-99 (early)>the 88 is a hybrid with L7 105mm, kinda like a T-62
>>64440182Seems pretty average as soviet shitbox upgrades go. Did they address the transmission or did the yugos develop a different tranny from the beginning that could reverse? RWS really ought to be an AGL, yes I know they want nothing more than to melt but really, look me in the eyes and tell me a Mk19 or similar thing loaded with airburst or even proxy fuse grenades wouldn't absolutely mince a drone
>>64445031This does actually look decent.emphasis on *look*It's still got the jack in the box insta-death Steel Coffin quirk.0:10 *2ND STAGE IGNITION CONFIRMED*
>>64451144China and the DPRK both go their own way out of pride and the DPRKs case necessity. China still tries to compete in airpower, the Norks made a strategic decision to base their entire doctrine on ignoring a area where they could never compete. The major point in Nork tank development was the Norks actually getting a Iraqi T-72 and being horrified by what crap it was. Besides the gun size (which they liked) they hated it, they thought was dangerous garbage especially the non cased ammo. They thought that despite the T-62s obvious ammo stowage issues the autoloader and combustible cases on the T-72 were worse. They also didn't think much of Iraqi or Iranian training.Modern Nork 125mm armed tanks do not have autoloaders and they don't have the T-62s ejection system. There is circumstantial evidence that the Nork 125mm might not be a 2A46 or related design at all, it might be something like a 2A46 with the Spruts breech block and one piece brass cased ammo. This would make sense since their tanks have loaders and being able to use a 125mm with one piece ammo would be a very good thing, in theory it would be a VERY good gun with proper ammo. Thank you for reading today's Juche talk and fuck NPR. Pic unrelated but please subscribe and like her or she might literally die.
>>64451210WTF
>>64440182Wonder waffen that will destroy Albania and convert the Bosnians to liberate the Balkans of islam so that Yugoslavia can be reestablished >adding active protection, upgraded armor, and advanced defenses to extend the fleet’s combat relevance.In all seriousness, it's probably alright
>>64451167Croatia sent some anon. Slovenian might be a future source.
