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https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/trump-says-south-korea-can-build-nuclear-powered-submarine/ar-AA1PrZNr?businessvertical=News

What's next?
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I would assume worst Korea builds some nuclear subs. That seems like the next logical step.
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>>64459031
Cargo Cult.
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>>64459031
>South Korea has committed $150 billion specifically to U.S. shipbuilding projects.
$150B, baby.
>The Japanese government has called for large investments into its shipbuilding industry. Last week, the country’s shipbuilders’ association, which represents 17 leading companies, said the companies were prepared to invest approximately $2.3 billion using their own financing.
Japan's also pitching in $2.3B BY YEAR END
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-south-korea-finalize-trade-111902759.html
https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/10/28195/
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>>64459072
That is a terrifying prospect for all marine life.
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>>64459031

"I have given them approval to build a Nuclear Powered Submarine, rather than the old fashioned, and far less nimble, diesel powered Submarines that they have now"

Why does America have to give South Korea permission to build a nuclear submarine? They're a sovereign country they can make whatever they want. Sure, America might already have the nuclear sub tech but South Korea isn't exactly a country of retards they could figure it out on their own if they wanted to.
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>shaking down Asian "allies"
>Koreans paying close to a trillion for "permission" even though months later America will either a) renege on the deal and the ROKN gets nothing (see Australia) or b) it gets delayed to 2040+
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>>64459031
>>64459531
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>>64459327
Hopefully the south gets a chance to nuke that fat retard
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>>64459488
>South Korea's president is said to have asked Trump to "make a decision to allow us to receive fuel for nuclear-propelled submarines."
>allow us to feceive fuel
Sounds like we're selling the gooks some highly enriched uranium for whatever sub they want to build. Maybe in 10-15 years it'll be built and commissioned, unless it's some sort of AUKUS-like deal where we sell them a Virginia I don't know how fast the South Koreans can lay down the infrastructure to natively build and maintain an SSN.
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>>64459628
meant for >>64459531
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>>64459531
vassal state
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>>64459531
You are truly that ignorant of our place in the world, huh? We make the rules.

>>64459555
Cope
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>>64459602
The South is lacking a rather important critical resource to do that.
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>>64459735
One can dream of an emulsified and irradiated Pyongyang. SK can build nukes. They're just pussy whipped.
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>>64459740
They don't even want to fight anymore, the leadership of both nations have acknowledged that unification isn't happening. Once they move forwards both can focus on the real enemy which is China.
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>>64459740
Impotent glowcel cuck, your brown 3rd world shithole will be nuked off the map, that's why south Koreans don't even dare to build nukes.
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>>64459363
why would japan invest in usa shipbuilding ?

its dead ass dead in the water it basicly doesnt exist outside of usa
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>>64459531
I think it has do to with nuclear tech, and defense cooperation. South Korea has neither the experience nor technical knowhow to build nuclear subs.
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>>64460463
I would imagine the pitch is something along the lines that if war breaks out over there Chinese, Japanese, and Korean shipyards are all probably getting ruined fairly early in the war. The American advantage in war has always been being in a different hemisphere to any other major power, so they get a good fallback if things go sideways.
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>>64460469
yeah and the american yards will be hit 20 minutes later

thats not an argument in order for this to work usa needs to burn jones act this is literally the sole reason their industry got nuked from orbit because nobody on their right mind would ever buy a u.s made ship
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>>64460472
You’re going to have a very hard time hitting US yards from China. Pretty much either have to launch an ICBM or hope you can sneak subs to the Gulf or New England for a closer attack. Far from easy either way. Congress has been talking about shipbuilding reform for a while now, who knows if anything comes of it, but it makes decent enough sense as both a fallback and to presumably get a piece of any fleet expansion work since the current administration seems interested in starting that up.
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>>64460463
Trump probably hosing lies as usual.
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>>64460497
well duh you think a local war will start between nuclear powers without escalating into nukes?

thats literally a given this is why it never happens
BUT in the slim chance that something like this happens
the shipyards are the obvious target in this case
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lmao, the only thing more nuclear than those subs is the chink butthurt
despite chinkcels foaming at the mouth over MASGA, it turns out that the US is just as interested in the project as Korea is. They want active assembly lines in the US and they want them yesterday.
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>>64460650
they gonna get a good kpop slap on their butt when they realise that they are on the same situation as aukus is

should have chosen the frogs
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>>64460655
>they gonna get a good kpop slap on their butt when they realise that they are on the same situation as aukus is
>should have chosen the frogs
South Korea has already acquired blue prints for a nuclear sub and reactors from the Russians, which is why they were able to develop LFR from scratch.
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>>64459531
The US produces vital components for high end military equipment that no one else can as easily or quickly. If the US decides to withhold its tech in these deals, they basically don't go through. So it's either deal with asking permission to get those bits, or do all the leg work yourself as a country.
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>>64460650
These chink/vatnik shills somehow always assume their enemy i.e us and co would do nothing and just give up.
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>>64460469
>>64460532
South Korea has a unlikely protector at least in terms of a nuclear strike on their shipyards: The DPRK's nuclear use policy includes third party nuclear attacks on the south as something they would retaliate against, they even clarified it to state that the 'protection' they extend over the south explicitly includes strikes by nuclear powers other than the USA.
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>>64459031
They’ll be able to build them on time unlike the US
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>>64461017
>The DPRK's nuclear use policy includes third party nuclear attacks on the south as something they would retaliate against, they even clarified it to state that the 'protection' they extend over the south explicitly includes strikes by nuclear powers other than the USA.
So if China nukes South Korea the Norks nuke China?
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So that is it? All you have to do to gain his favot is giving him golden objects?
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>>64461036
The funniest thing so far about spastics lifke this is they still haven't realized that their self-flattering pathological need to think he's a stoopid dumb dumb poopee head consistently leaves them behind the ball on what's likely to actually do in the real world.
The only thing better is most foreign heads-of-state have the same complex, too.
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>>64461035
In theory yes. If the North wasn't involved in the conflict they would, the only realistic scenario would be US aircraft attacking China via the RoK during a Strait crisis. In practice the PRC would just limit themselves to conventional strikes until the South hopefully declared neutrality. Then Kim gets to play up being the great peacekeeping protector of both Koreas with the added bonus of it being more or less true.
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>>64459031
Why do morons like norktard simp for North Korea again? Imagine simping for a shithole that’s stuck in the 60’s that you’ll never visit ever.
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>>64461754
It's fun to do ironically
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>>64461754
They are seething chinashills that once again bought into the lie that all of Asia would just team up and work together, instead of the actual reality where they all hate China and then compete with each other. Trump and the US were always going to come out better from this simply because Japan and SK and every other Asian country fucking hates China due to the Chinese Civil War, WW2 and post WW2 maoist China
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>>64461754
1: By the USA and DPRK becoming at least neutral towards each other it allows Asia to unite against China with the New Co-Prosperity Sphere automatically gaining a nuclear deterrent on China's border independent of the USA. This solves almost all real East Asian issues besides the existence of China and lays out a path to correct that mistake.
2: Trump very well might flip the DPRK against China like Nixon did flipping China against the USSR.
3: Russia would have definitively failed in Ukraine without the DPRK quitting the war while leaving it's military reserves, economy and demographics were mostly intact. The longer the DPRK keeps them fighting the more long term damage Russia suffers thus the closer they come to total collapse and fragmentation. Because of the DPRK Russia can't stop thus making it's eventual fall that much more destructive and total.

Each one of these is a worthy goal in and of itself, taken as a whole they represent a clear and rational justification for the normalization of US/DPRK relations.

Also i think their stuff looks cool.
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>>64461830
4. Kim's sister is smoking hot and I want to her to spit on my while she rides me cowgirl and calls me an American pigdog.
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>>64461858
Well duh.
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>>64460085
Neck yourself norkshill
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>>64461873
>Can't tell who he is talking to even when the actual Norkshill is using a tripcode.

Sad, many such cases.
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>>64461830
>Also i think their stuff looks cool.
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>>64460532
I mean if it gets into nukes it’s just over and doesn’t really matter what industry you had or where it was at that point. A full on strategic exchange between the US and China kills probably more people than WWII in the first week and a number probably over a billion in the first year once you account for what that does to world trade and food production
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Why the sekrit on nuclear-powered subs though?

Why stop there? Why not have Japan, Korea and Australia launch Tomahawks and non-nuclear ballistic missiles from nuclear-powered subs?

I'd go even further, if America allowed Japan, Korea and Australia have nuclear weapons and stationed B61s in the Philippines then China and North Korea would behave and won't get uppity.
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>>64459531
Because reactor tech, fuel and the technicians to do this are protected via export and weapons regulations. Trump is merely approving their ability to purchase goods and expertise from US sources. US modular reactor tech is second to none, but most likely they'll be getting last gen designs
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>South Korea needed American approval to build a nuclear submarine
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>>64461965
Norkshill turns his trip code on and off and talks to himself because he's a mentally ill tankie. Many such cases
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>>64462131
>>South Korea needed American approval to build a nuclear submarine
South Korea had a nuke program in the 70s and got cucked by the US.
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>>64462250
Thanks to Donny boy nobody is going to make that mistake again.
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>>64462191
Out of curiosity you are just spouting random insults right?

Tankie, commie and pinko aren't typically words associated with a pro Monarchist who just outlined his three step plan to kill the majority of the PRC and Russia's population while turning the DPRK into the USA's attack dog. Not even trying to argue, just curious.
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>approves
What does that mean?
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>>64462766
Militarized nuclear tech is heavily restricted under various nonproliferation regimes. Basically if you try getting it without the say so of existing nuclear powers you are probably going to have your economy crushed by sanctions and embargoes in the best case, or have your government overthrown in the worst.
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>>64462754
Shut up you tremendous faggot
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>>64459531
>Why does America have to give South Korea permission to build a nuclear submarine?
American foreign policy fuckery. SK was restricted by fuel enrichment limits.
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>>64462811
Oh, i see you are just being a argumentative troll.

I'm sorry about whatever horrible thing happened to Michelle Obama size your Zutt hole as a child, please seek help and touch grass. If it's worth anything i hold no malice towards you unless you are an actual AI bot in which case i'd like to be your friend.
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>>64462814
>>64459531
It's a negotiating tactic more aimed at the North than the South. Since the Norks are building a nuclear sub the South wants one as well, like how they are making huge (conventional) missiles on TELs literally because Kim has a huge something with the word dong in its name missile TEL with 22 wheels.

Surprisingly based from the current RoK government given that they have agreed to a two Korea's policy in accordance with the North and asked for a three way summit with Kim and Trump. Good to see that they want peace but aren't turning into total wimps, combined with their global push for arms sales i will officially label them ' Not as Good as the Best Korea' instead of 'Worst Korea'*

*Worst Korea is now officially the Russian Far East AKA More Northern Korea**
**China is of course second worst West Korea while Japan is third worse East Korea***
***AAAAAAA I'M DOING FOOTNOTES ON THE FOOOTNOTES ON THE FOOT NOTES!!!!!!!****
****At least i didn't see it in a dream like Varg*****
*****Fuck i did that last week, at least its still speculation******
******OK i'll stop now. At least i didn't use pilcrows yet.
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People don't seem to realize how groundbreaking this is.
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>>64459031
Why did they need approval? Is South Korea not sovereign? Anons always tell me Japan and South Korea are sovereign but they always seem to act like groveling puppet states.
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>>64459531
Because South Korea is not, in fact, a sovereign state.
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>>64459735
Not anymore they're not
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>>64462941
Norktard, you finally made me smile.
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>>64460934
So did France get this kind of approval?
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>>64459031
Historically there was never dissuasion of nuclear powered submarines by the West, if anything it was the other way and encouraged by NGO/regulatory, giving a "peaceful" non-nuclear weapon development but still nuclear avenue. So France and Brazil were teamed up to build the Brazilian nuclear submarine which has gone on for ever, and India similar with international scientific input. There is heaps of open scientific about nuclear propulsion, not finished designs but its not really a big deal.
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>>64459628
>Sounds like we're selling the gooks some highly enriched uranium for whatever sub they want to build.

IIRC USN subs use U-235 that is enriched to over 90% purity, if the gooks dont like the sub, they can always turn the fuel into le bömb. If you are a poorfag, I think thorium fuel would be the way to go.
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>>64461036
Yeah pretty much, that ballroom is gonna look like the hold of a Spanish galleon once its built
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Maybe there's been a decision that US shipbuilding isn't going to recover anytime soon, so sub construction rates won't increase enough to increase the fleet AND "donate" some Virginia's to Australia?
And so they're going to get South Korea to build a fleet with a strict defense treaty and have them provide the Aus subs.
M-maybe
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>>64461858
We all want that you're nothing special
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>>64464640
France has had their own nuclear programs and enrichment capabilities since the 60s what are you on about
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>>64464700
So in other words, France didn't have to seek any approval, while South Korea did. Why? Because France is sovereign and South Korea isn't.
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>>64464796
South Korea didn't even exist when France's nuclear program started
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>>64464811
Nice deflection.
South Korea is a technological powerhouse.. They don't need US input to make a nuclear sub because they know what they need to do. Why do they need ask for permission?
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>>64464820
You were told. Nonproliferation treaties. Sharing nuclear technology requires approval unless SK wants to get sanctioned. It's as simple as that. Yes you do need that permission slip. No France didn't as it's a founding member of the organization that would enforce said rules and is a permanent security council member.

Read a book retard.
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>>64464902
So you accept that South Korea is the bootlicking vassal who needs daddy suzerain's approval, while the big boys do as they will. Thanks!
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>>64459031
what the hell are they doing
does it mean US will allow proliferation of nuclear weapons? Korea is only a few years away and a SSBN would be the key delivery platform
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>>64466578
>does it mean US will allow proliferation of nuclear weapons?
You see US doing shit about North Korea? How many ICBMs they have now capable of reaching US mainland?
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>>64466602
>How many ICBMs they have now capable of reaching US mainland?
0
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I mean this in complete seriousness: Why does South Korea need a nuclear submarine?

1. South Korea has a pacifist constitution so they won't be doing overseas deployments.
2. North Korea has a fleet of shitty midget subs unfit for rough weather and deep water.
3. Diesel-electric is quieter when running on batteries and due to above it's enough just to think about the Yellow Sea.
4. Japan has decades of experience in ASW.
5. If North Korea slips a sub out for Hawaii then it's not Seoul's problem.

Nuclear is great for endurance, speed and (theoretically) powering undersea death-lasers.

The only advantage would be for future export but those will be restricted by the US supply with the only alternative being Russian supply (kek) which is compounded by a global shortage generally. So I guess maybe they will use their industrial capacity to sort out the mess of AUKUS now that the US forgot how to make submarines or try to use the operation experiance for their space programme.
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>>64464693
I don't see the US allowing South Korean access to their best subs when even AUKUS members don't have complete access. Even if it was going that route it would take a different route of engaging Hyundai directly in the supply chain for parts and gradually integrate from there.
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>>64464902
This isn't nuclear weapon, its nuclear propulsion - it falls into "atoms for piece" bucket. Does have nuclear in the name though. Scary I guess
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>>64466602
best korea has been sanctioned to shit for proliferating, even without direct military action this is the opposite of actively helping
in the last few decades it was generally against nuclear power interests to allow proliferation, it would only make sense if US was to go into total isolationism



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