Is it bad?
>>64478253no but f16 better
>>64478253Once I learned the Tornado is not a true multirole, but is multirole in the sense you can order it from the factory for a specific role I stopped liking it.
>>64478253The gr1s fucking airfields with the forbidden pez dispenser in gulf 1 was kino
>>64478973What's the difference between them?
>>64478253>Better than most contemporary soviet fighters but not all>Worse than most contemporary nato fighters but not all.
>>64479006You have the ground attack model (IDS) which is the most common. ADV for air to air. Finally the ECR which can do EWAR or SEAD.
>>64478253is? maybewas? no, it just has very unusual mission profiles depending on the different versions it comes init used to excel in the job it was configured to do, but is lacking in everything else. additionally a lot of scenarios the tornado were build for simply ceased to exist because stand of weapons and nato air superiority surpassed it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZIznwXcrrkIt's War Thunder. It's Video Game. But it includes history and overview and jokes about the plane.
>>64479093I like his vids. I'll never touch war blunder again but they're good mindless entertainment to not go mad during a 5 hour car drive
Not a bad card to draw, I would usually pick speed.
>>64479100Why does it have such a big tail? Would it be uncontrollable otherwise?
>>64478973To be fair going down that path (rather than attempting to build something that was all things to all men) was probably the most sensible solution to the clusterfuck that was getting multiple European countries to agree on a single specification for what their multinational multirole combat aircraft should do.
>>64478253PHHBBBBBBBBBTTTTT
>>64478253my uncle used to fly it, and he used it to bomb serbs and ragheadssexiest plane ever made if you ask me
>>64478253nope
>>64480184>6° Stormo>tornado 6-66 MM7059Was he from the 154° or the 155°?
>>64481152are you trying to dox him
>>64478253How does it compare to its successor the eurofighter?
>>64481215they're fundamentally different planesone was made to act as a low flying, deep striking, ground attacking penetrator, while the other one is a nimble, fast, sensor-infused air dominance plane
>>64481215They are 2 different platforms meant to do completely different things. I might be biased but there is nothing sexier than a Tornado going 700kt at 30-40ft of altitude deep within enemy lines, just to pull up to +65°, drop a B61 mid arc and then fucking off into the man made sunset. That we never had the chance to do it outside of training was a travesty.
>>64480159How well did this work in Iraq?
>>64481350Worked well, but in retroperspective was too risky.
Tornado GR4 with litening pod, brimstone missiles and Paveway IV was pretty good ground attack/CAS. F3 fighter version sucked, was more of an interceptor meant to extend the range of AA missles vs Russian bombers.
>>64478253Why is this is a pig when cornering, while the F-14 is a beast?
>>64479035Can you sit upon the fence a little harder?
>>64482202It may not look like a B-2 Spirit, but the F-14 is pretty much a flying wing all the same. The entire airframe provides lift.
>>64478253yesit was an objectively terrible aircraft
>>64481350it was completely pointless since the USAF had already blown up all the Iraqi AF planes in their bunkers
>>64482441You're retarded and know nothing about aviation
>worst loss rate of all coalition aircraft in Desert Storm>insane maintenance hog that put planes like F-111 and F14 to shame >terrible automation leaving to horrendous crew overload compared to alternatives >performance equivalent to F-105, a 15 year older design >operators started phasing them out in the 2010s, it only entered service in 1980, planes like the F-16 and F-15 are older and still frontline aircraft
>>64482495Did they make any upgrades that fixed any of those?
>>64480159>clean it up Saddam janny
>>64478253Perhaps the sexiest tail on a jet.
>>64480184that's rad, anon
>>64479035>Better than most contemporary soviet fightersWhich ones and in what ways? Off the top of my head the most comparable Soviet multiroles from that era are the Mig-23 and Su-17, and both of those offered better bang for buck.
>>64481350I've never seen any accounts that it was ever used in combat. If anyone has any I'd love to see them, but I suspect the MW-1 was retired without ever having been fired in anger. >>64482495It's one of those boondoggles that was never quite bad enough in any specific way to draw a scandal.
>>64480600>Larp setup in the backLmao
>>64482456Not unusual on /k/
>>64478973>the Tornado is not a true multirole, but is multirole in the sense you can order it from the factory for a specific rolewait what the fuckAnd you can't get conversion kits and change the role yourself?
>>64483843>larp setupYou don't know what a flight sim joystick is?
>>64484300He's probably one of those /pol/cels who thinks playing videogames is woke.
>>64478253>entered service years after the F-15>operated only by four countries>three of which were involved in the project>already retired from service in the UK>meanwhile F-15 going strong as everYes. It's bad.It's a plane that exists solely because aerospace lobbyists were afraid of US dominance.
>>64484352>they wanted apples, why didn't they buy oranges?
>>64484360The F-15 performed every task the Tornado did but better while also being a good fighter aircraft. The Tornado only exists because of corruption.
>>64484366nigger the F-15A was a single seat air superiority fighter, everyone knows its storythe first strike variant came only in the mid/late 80s with the E variantor are you now going to claim the F-15A had a terrain following radar, route waypoints preplanning, etc?
>>64484366see >>64482456
>dumb yuropoors mooching off our NATO shield while they don't have armies! they should arm themselves so we can finally send our boys back home!>NOOOO DON'T INVEST IN DOMESTIC COMPANIES WHAT ABOUT MUH DEFENCE LOBBIES AYY CARAMBA!
>>64482202The same reason no one tries dogfighting in a Su-24 or F-111 other than as a desperate last resort measure.The Tornado was built to do one thing, fly fast at very low altitude and drop payload with precision at the target, day or night in any weather with a high amount of navigation and terrain following automation so the crew could focus on combat tasks.Even the ADF interceptor version was far from a good general purpose fighter, but was a great long range interceptor to patrol over the North Sea.
>>64484366checked, another videogamelarpairsoftstreamertard that has zero concept of what he's posting or the topic
>>64483621Based fanny apppriciator.
>>64480600Kino patch. Also checked.
