I am strongly of the opinion that Memorial Day and Veterans Day should swap their dates. I suggest this because I believe that the former’s somber nature is more appropriate for sharing the date of Armistice Day with the rest of the world, whereas the latter essentially amounts to open veneration of war, which while not entirely unwarranted, comes off as extremely tactless when it shares its date with the end of a war that is almost universally considered to be a pointless tragedy. What does /k/ think of my proposition?
>>64510659I get the sentiment but I don't think that many people would support it
>>64510659I don't disagree. Frankly I don't even know why memorial day is on the day it is anyway. But yes, it does feel a little in bad taste to celebrate our living and actively serving vets on a day that's usually meant for the dead>>64511086And honestly they'd probably oppose for some asinine reason that basically boils down to "we've been doing it like this for so long, why change?" even though it'd be a simple name change
If you think of it in a different way, veterans day could be considered a day to remember the pointless sacrifices that were made in pointless wars. Not glorifying the wars. Celebrating the people who fought and died for nothing because they either thought they did the right thing or were forced info. The soldiers, not the war itself.>>64511102>it does feel a little in bad taste to celebrate our living and actively serving vets on a day that's usually meant for the deadWe have memorial day for that. Veterans day is to celebrate the people who survived.
Veteran's day is a rebrand of Armistice Day, the end of The Great War, which absolutely sucked on a scale that we still can't comprehend. After WWII, with the new VE and VJ day, there were potentially three dates to celebrate those who had been killed and/or participated in those wars. Memorial Day is more of a general patriotism day, and a big summer kickoff. The fact that there is only one (1) Armistice/Veteran's day thread in the catalog says a lot about how little people know about the origins of the holiday. WWI can be remembered as a pointless tragedy, sure, but it is a natural byproduct of the industrial revolution and centralization of power in the hands of the retarded. The fact that it happened, and the fact that it happened again, and the fact that will happen again in the future is all cause for reflection, which is the entire point.
>>64511102>Frankly I don't even know why memorial day is on the day it is anyway.It goes back to the Civil War. Individual states held independent days of mourning for war dead in the April-June period and over the decades they gradually merged into a single holiday.>>64511405>If you think of it in a different way, veterans day could be considered a day to remember the pointless sacrifices that were made in pointless wars. Not glorifying the wars. Celebrating the people who fought and died for nothing because they either thought they did the right thing or were forced info. The soldiers, not the war itself.I mean, that may have been how it was originally envisioned, but Veterans Day nowadays is functionally just a public veneration of warfare and an excuse for mindless chest-thumping in general. It's about as somber as Heldengedenktag was in Germany.
>>64511455I agree it used to be way more somber, because nearly everyone in say, 1920 knew someone who was dead or maimed by the war. Now the military is basically a separate caste, and the average only sees veterans as homeless or potential suicides.
>>64510659>that is almost universally considered to be a pointless tragedy.yuros killing each other isn't a tragedy
>>64510659On Veteran's day I think about the giants whose shoulders I stand uponOn Memorial day, I think about the friends I've lost during my time inOn both days, I get high as fuck and watch "They Shall Not Grow Old".simple as
>>64511543That seems like a good way to celebrate. I'm posting gruesome pics in /his/ to commemorate the dead. I'm doing a THC clense right, otherwise I'd blaze one with ye
>>64511549I do shrooms, not weed but I appreciate the thought anon
>>64510659I don't think the average normie can even tell the difference between the two.
>>64511621One is the three-day weekend Summer Kickoff, and the other is a random day in November when the banks are closed for some reason.
>>64511511In some company people give you funny looks if you even acknowledge the existence of the military. If you get any more specific, you trigger the "wHy d0 yOU KNOW THAT???????" interrogation as if you personally committed the gaza genocide or whatever the fuck they're supposed to be performatively upset about rn.
>>64511702I never bring up being military unless the situation can kind of make it funny like some woman saying she can drive anything and I asked her what about tracked vehicles and another guy was also a Bradley driver so we ended up laughing about throwing tracks and doing PMCS on a bradley. But some people will lose their minds about it. I just got lucky that half of the people I work with are ex military and the other half feel bad about not enlisting. But that's because we're a 95% male workforce so we don't have to deal with sensitive women and the women we have are more masculine than your average zoomer.
>>64511562Any particular reason why Anglos use the acronym "Pte" while Americans use "Pvt"?
>>64510659I have an unpopular opinion:You're not a bitch.
>>64513622Say it as a word....pity or pivot...which one is closer the the actual word....
>>64510659>amounts to open veneration of warWhat the fuck gave you that retarded idea?
>>64513855Have you ever watched a Veterans Day parade here?
>>64510659Yeah that makes sense. And just call it Rememberance or Armistice Day like the rest of us.
>>64511702Maybe because you only hang out with leftoid tranny freaks
>>64511543>>>64510659
>>64511549based
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>>64510659>>What does /k/ think of my proposition?don't really care t b h
>>64517020this
>>64511549As a pain patient doing a sativa bounce or a dry spell to knock down tolerance sucks, infinite free weed sounds better.
>>64511552Shrooms are too lazy. I always just watch movies.
>>64511621They all know and all still mix the dates
>>64511749Weird... Why would you regret not enlisting? It's either a good career or not there is no moral bonus without a WWII.
>>64510659>What does /k/ think of my proposition?Well-intentioned, but ultimately pointless
>>64511543this
>>64510659What would be the point?
>>64514238>BC-41 (Bouncy Castle)
>>64514693>AnzioI’d be mad too if my brother died just so Lucas and Scott could get their shoes shined by altar boys in Rome
>>64510659I follow your logic, and I agree with it. Not like it's ever going to happen though.I will take this opportunity to once again point out that, despite the normieverse's perception of WWI as a pointless waste of lives, it was absolutely a worthwhile fight, at least if you're Serbian, French, Belgian, or British. I'd even go so far as to call it worthwhile for America, even if shoring up Wall Street is an unpopular stance to take with the proles.
>>64531882>it was absolutely a worthwhile fightIf you're British, the sentiment that it wasn't worth it is understandable considering that a direct consequence of that war was the terminal decline of the British Empire.
>>64514238Do Americans really?
>>64535553Yes
>>64535553Why wouldn't we?
I hate veteran's day.
>>64542598why
>>64542598yep this one right here
>>64542598only correct answer
>>64524067To stop offending other countries where November 11th is generally regarded as a day of mourning
>>64510659I believe that more dead American soldiers is good for the world.
>>64533313Eh, empires are destined to fall eventually. After a while, administering that sheer breadth of territory just becomes an albatross around your neck. World-spanning command, control, and logistics networks are awfully fucking expensive, and most colonies absolutely did not make enough to pay the bills.
>>64550649>number of Americans killed - 0
>>64510659You should drop both state military cult days being used as propaganda dances on the dead anyway, do you think people drafted and died in the union army or vietnam want that shit going on over their graves? The original amistice day memorial was pure grief at the horror of war and grief for the dead not the jingoistic bullshit with military parades and politicians prancing around with top brass for the cameras. My combat was with a unit that was essentially abandoned by politicians for their own puposes to die and when I see them now having a military parade for 'heroes' to drum up recuits and more politicans walking on graves to lay wreathes for PR I find it fucking sickening
>>64550649>I believe that more dead American soldiers is good for the world.I'm not American but hope that they kill you for your post, you deserve it.
>>64510659Whatever man I don't really care.
