>>64511170
Any idea who is selling the pre cut Geissele triggers?

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>>64511218
No and honestly I think it is ridiculous that everyone is so onsessed with Geissele trigger FRT SS setups.

A super nice semi auto is only really necessary for an SPR or precision gun.

A fighting carbine at the end of the day doesn't need a super nice trigger. Mil-spec is fine IMO.

>>64511250
I like a nice semi auto trigger. Simple as.

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>>64511276
Hopefully Atrius gets their shit together and beefs up their lever. The basic Schmid two-stage is a totally workable trigger for any semi auto gas gun precision work, and the Atrius lever at one point supposedly worked with it without any modifications to the trigger.

we back!

>>64511218
dnt, warhammer

I'm to lazy to find and link but whoever was asking in the last thread if their trigger cut was bad, you can basically remove anything you want up to the disconnect spring and be fine, the problem is over rounding the left side.

>>64511250
I don't disagree but also at the same time I really enjoy my Geissele SSPs which are super light single stage triggers. Makes me feel very confident taking longer range shots from an unsupported standing position. I absolutely would not prefer that trigger in conjunction with an FRT though, way too light to be able to pop off a burst of rounds and it's already pretty close to being a negligent discharge trigger as is

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>>64512401
I've had AD experiences and inadvertent bumpfire experiences with Geissele single stage AR triggers.
I do like a decent two stage for precision work, but I find an MBT or the Schmid Tool mil-spec style 2 stage does the job just fine, and there are PLENTY of other leading contributions to shot uncertainty that dominate over that last 1%-5% improvement in trigger pull.

Don't get me wrong, that last 1%-5% is real, and yes sometimes spending an additionla $100-$200 to net that benefit is "worth" it.

But in the pursuit of FRT and SS system proliferation I urge people to just work the mil-spec style semi auto trigger pull, ESPECIALLY on a fighting carbine or something.

>>64512401
>negligent discharge trigger as is
I don't think I've ever had an ND with my geissele triggers. Clean break every time at the same exact spot.

What ever happened to that FRT Siegu was making. Allegedly compatible with ALG triggers. He gave up last I saw.

>>64512498
the ak super safety is sold by a lot of people although the only way to get 3 position from my understanding is through super safety shop. I have the parts for my WASR-10 I just didnt do the work yet

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>>64512509
>>64512498
I've got a sorta working three position setup using the FRT SS kit using the standard AKM cam and trip bar that is sold by multiple vendors like
Deeznutztactical
Muffintoptactical.com
etc etc
This is NOT the same kit as the kit from Super Safety Shop.

The cam profile, trip bar design, and materials are totally different.

That being said I've got "sort of" functioning three position AK FRT SS working using BOTH of these kits, the machined tool steel one from Deeznutz/Muffintop AND using the kit that appears to be 3D printed steel from Super Safety Shop.

>>64512509
>>64512516
Thanks for catching it being about the AK - I just noticed I forgot to put "AK FRT".

>>64512516
That's interesting to mix and match parts, what issues are you having now? Are you the guy that suggested to get stronger springs? If that's the case, you inspired me to buy stronger springs for my build

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>>64512520
Sorry I'm confused I don't follow

>>64512522
The issue I'm having now with the east german inspired AKM three position using the trip bar and cam from deeznutz/Muffintop etc style kit is that with strong trigger finger pressure it seems like the action is binding in the rear of the travel, potentially due to the trigger bar ramp binding against the cam, which then somehow locks the carrier in place? Not sure. I can't recreate it when cycling by hand. It wasn't happening for a bit as you can see in the video here:
https://streamable.com/ctps76
But then I messed with the gas setting and it started binding up during live fire.
>stronger springs
I do maintain that in general for getting FRT and SS systems to work, having the ability to tune with additional gas, mass, and spring is a benefit to ensure you can get enough system operating energy to reliably defeat the operator trigger finger pressure.

>>64511170
My Arc Fire FRT is noticeably squishier than my MilSpec trigger my PSA came with. Anything I can do?

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>>64512725
What do you mean squishier? Like the semi auto pull has more creep?
You could reduce creep by reducing the length of the sear engagement surface but.... that could have other effects lol, especially in an FRT/SS mechanism.

I would personally just deal with it? I was just shooting my arc-fire yesterday and like yeah in semi it ain't great, but I guarantee if you get off the bench and out of the 16x scope... it won't make a difference.

>>64512683
>Sorry I'm confused I don't follow
You guys knew I was talking about the AK when I forgot to mention it in my post.

>>64512683
im probably retarded, but i dont see any binding

>>64512869
>>64512683
Sorry I misread, this you experience binding but the clip was it working like you expect it to, gotcha

So seeing some posts on cam wear got me worrying:
Weak steel for the cams means you get wear and it stops working, but suppose I buy a "quality" one out of CPM-10v or something, what are triggers usually made from? Is there a risk of wearing it the rounded trigger part to where it ruins the trigger instead? All this talk about expensive G$ triggers has me worried I could ruin one if I got it.

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>>64513726
This is why at the end of the day home cut triggers IMO don't cut it. The cam surface and the rear of the trigger bar ramping surface need to be comparable hardness if you're going for the most longevity as possible. Remember that this contact area is subject to the entire force of the forced reset mechanism, overcoming the operator trigger finger pressure by way of reciprocating action. Plus it is not just compression but shear as well.

>>64514192
>don't cut it
I thought this shit was supposed to work?

bamp eet

>>64512470
>>64512401
you guys convinced me to cut my 2 stage schmid instead

>>64512165
that was me. thank you

>>64516928
Twist it.

>>64517030
pull it

>>64511170
I got a possibly stupid question, with the buffer does it have to be a h3 buffer in a carbine length buffer system, or can I use just a normal rifle buffer system, since I believe the standard rifle buffer is of similar weight to a h3. Trying to google this has been a real pain.

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>>64511170
The OP is mistaken regarding legality. You already know that. If you don't know, the ATF is currently prosecuting a guy who used a 3D printed FRT of some kind in a rented gun at an indoor range.

Massively retarded behavior, obviously.

The ATF has clarified that the only FRTs that will not be considered machine guns are made by Rare Breed/WOT, according to the Rare Breed patent.

I'd like to remind you that Rare Breed settled with ATF, so the courts have never weighed in, no precedent has been set, there's nothing legally binding the government from reclassifying "approved" FRTs as contraband at some later date.

>>64518935
that guy was in shooting it in DC, he was a retard

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>>64518885
>normal rifle buffer system
Honestly I have no experience and haven't seen or heard much about people using FRT or SS in AR platform guns making use of a rifle length buffer and spring system plus receiver extension/tube.
Go for it though, worth a shot, but no guarantee.

>>64518935
>contraband
Neck yourself
FRTs and SS are a dime a dozen right now. The more people that buy and install them now, the better. Proliferation -> Common use -> Protected
Faggot pussy bitch niggas like you are holding it back.

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>>64518935
>gay aids shit

Any gun that fires only one shot per trigger pull is not a machine gun.
Under the statute, that's the end of the analysis.
And the Supreme Court’s Cargill ruling regarding bump stocks made that even clearer.
SCOTUS held that the statutory phrase “single function of the trigger” is mechanical and literal.
They rejected ATF’s attempts to reinterpret it.
And they made the “multiple shots per single function” test the controlling factor.

>>64518937
worse, he was from d.c. shooting in VA

>September 22, 2025, Avissar was at a range in Northern Virginia, rented a rifle, attempted to install a 3D-printed forced-reset trigger
>On October 8, 2025, officers executed a searh warrant, seized multiple 3D-printed FRTs, firearms, a 3D printer, and electronics.
>He was arrested for “Possession of a Machine Gun” and a pistol-license violation under DC law.

DC has many
>possessing a machine gun or a conversion device
laws, its on them to justify how a frt is one of both of those things.
Avissar case is likely to be the first real litmus test of how a jurisdiction like D.C. will treat forced-reset triggers after the federal Rare Breed/NAGR rulings.

>>64520375
Good point, a federal ruling doesn't necessarily effect state laws.

>>64520375
I think he's just trying to warn everyone that in states where it's a legal grey zone to be careful. Even if you are using a super safety or FRT etc and it's quite literally one trigger pull per shot, the cops aren't going to care.

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Took out my Arc fire to test it out. Worked great with no issues. Also worked well with my upper used for my cmmg conversion kit and bore buddy trip kit. Did not work well with subs, but anything super worked great. If you want your 22 setup to work with subs, your best bet is a short resetting trigger as my other lower with a g$ sd3g worked great with 950 subs. Also tested some reloads for my mp5 as it doesnt like 147grain flat nose bullets, so I made a bunch of round nose 147 subs.

>>64520876
I'm excited to get mine ordered next friday, I wish there were 2 stage triggers that worked with it, without the lever blocker though, I plan to put it in my go rifle, but I dont want to have to deal with another part

>>64520920
The lever blocker is cheap from AS, and it gets cheaper when you buy multiple. It was $24 shipped for 4. That way if I want to get some more nice triggers in the future I will have them

>>64520966
I have 5 of them, cost is not an issue, I just didnt want a small piece to rely on to operate my go rifle. For my range toys it's fine though

>>64520973
Well, if it makes you feel better, I have been running my mp5 and my AR lower both with g$ SD3GS for a while and only now just got some lever blockers. never had an issue before.

>>64520980
>g$ SD3GS
without the blocker? well that's very interesting since the product page for the ARC says it's needed

weird, how many mags did you run through it? no weirdness?

>>64518935
>hE Wuz A RehtAURD

fuck you faggot, and fuck the atf. the atf doesnt get to decide if its legal or not. FRTs are here to stay. made by RBT or not. nigger

>>64521007
For the mp5? About 600+rds. For the AR lower? At least 1200 .22lr, and 3-400 for 556. Both with 4150 SS. I don't know how much difference there is between the lees sporting lower and a regular AR, but even the warhammer armament mp5 lower setup with g$ doesn't include a blocker.

>>64521115
lever blocker isn't needed for mp5, not sure about 22lr

thanks for the 556 information though, there must be a reason why it does exist though, the block is supposed to stop the arc lever from falling behind the hammer

maybe this happens at higher round counts or the lever just makes sure it doesnt happen at all to increase reliability

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https://www.instagram.com/p/DQcutIfjuf3/

Ordered a S5 Tactical G36 last week and just stumbled across this. What a time to be alive.

>>64521330
that's pretty sick

>>64521352
Not sure about the push button safety, but honestly, whatever. Having an AR-style trigger group like the one made by TBT is awesome too.

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give it to me straight, is it retarded to put a 3 pos FRT on something that is also intended for home defense?

not as in...actually using the FRT during a break in. Just whether the reliability is there yet to still trust it in semi, or if it should be strictly used only for range toys.

I know the atrius had reliability issues, the AS designs ones look better. SS is out because the manual of arms is retarded in a high stakes scenario

>>64521454
at that point, why put it in your gun at all?

>>64521454
Added complexity, if you have more than one gun I wouldn't have an FRT next to the bed. If you just have one gun, then it's not anything I'd worry about unless you live in a hostile state where they would hit you with extra lawfare for using an FRT.

>>64521536
idk, more fun on range days without dedicating an entire separate lower/build

>>64521330
I have some sort of bastardized sl8 that I never sent to tommy before he closed, how good are these? I know how said they might bring one some day, but what do you think?

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>>64522063
Haven't gotten mine yet. Ordered mine 10/30 and still hasn't shipped. I asked my FFL and they have forwarded their license and stuff. Emailed S5 11/10 and they say carriers got delayed. Seems like there is a squeeze in the supply line right now.

From assorted youtube videos and reddit posts though it seems like S5 guns are g2g, they're GSG9 parts kits and S5 has bought the molds off of TBT when he quit. I've had an HK243 back in Germany, so I'm excited to see how it'll compare. I'll gladly make a post here whenever it arrives.

>>64522094
Based gunfucker, keep us posted.

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I don't see this one on the list so I'll mention that I've been happy with it so far.

The guy who sells them is this unhinged retired veteran with a pretty crude website.

Aside from the drop-in part, if you get the 3 position version, you also get a milspec FCG but the trigger, disconnector, and safety selector are the m16 variants.

So far I haven't come across anyone reporting any issues with their reliability and haven't encountered issues myself. The drop-in part does however still get cycled and pushes/releases the trigger at points even in normal semi (you don't notice it when actually shooting) but it's just not enough to prevent the hammer from catching on the disconnector.

Basically, the drop in part will still accumulate wear in semi auto, so I pull it out if I'm at the range and don't intend on using the third position because there isn't really concrete data on how long they last on average.

Other than that though so far it feels like a viable contender for something that could maybe actually be used in a duty gun.

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>>64521102
+1 updoots

>>64521330
>crossbolt safety
I mean cool that it works, but now make it a lever with OG HK looking safety selectors.

>>64521454
Eh I mean like maybe? I would just have a dedicated HD gun. It is just a lower swap.

>>64521977
>dedicating an entire separate lower/build
Another AR lower is what, $165?

>>64522094
bls do

>>64522420
Neato

Works on the GTS, pretty cool

https://youtu.be/3TRXKtlkx04

>>64521102
nah shooting at some indoor range with a super safety is really dumb since im sure the range probably didnt allow rapid fire to begin with... not saying the range or ATF is in the right, they aren't, but that guy was asking to get kicked out of that place by pesky boomers.

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>>64518935
the trigger fires a bullet for each function of the trigger, so that sounds legal and epic to me

>>64523725
its a fucked up story in many ways.
yes the guy was a complete idiot for doing that at a range, but also the DC police were "tipped off" about him. In otherwords someone from the gun range in VA called the DC police on him.

>>64523826
100% faggot behavior

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ump45 footage

I'm more interested in the kriss vector, but this is cool too

>>64521454
>manual of arms is retarded
how so? my go to hd gun is a shotgun, which also has a push button safety

Any of the options for the mp5 have a lever selector instead of crossbolts? I'd rather just wait for rare greed's if all the available ones are crossbolts.

>>64524314
asdesigns mp5 lower with ARC

>>64521454
If your only option is to use your one gun with an FRT in it then I wouldn’t see another option besides another gun anyways. That said I’m inclined not to use an FRT equipped gun in home defense since the look of a gun alone will send a jury into a mess of Everytown anti gun overtones. There’s sufficient evidence that scary looking guns do not help your case, and should a prosecutor say
>”This gun possesses what some call a full auto workaround”
you may find yourself in a terrible judicial situation that could have been avoided if you used another gun.

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I fucking hate Florida's gay ass laws on FRTs/bump stocks.
I can own my transferable M16 but an FRT MP5 is a big fuck no apparently.
I hope DeSantis repeals this gay ass law along with the incendiary ammo ban.

>>64526147
so youre just chillin' here?

>>64526198
bing chilling

Came across this. https://x.com/pembie000ind/status/1989934739701338574?s=20 how would they be able to sell patent if hoffman made the design?

Guys I need some help.
>have Spikes Tactical lower
>have metal SS
>works
>but....
>keep having hammer follow on semi
>only happens when I release the trigger slowly
It even happens when no upper is present, wtf is going on?

>>64526147
>incendiary ammo ban
Yeah no that needs to stay, you can't handle that sort of power.

>>64528035
Bad disconnector?

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>>64528036
>you can't handle
Kill yourself

>>64528019
Twin bros doesn't own the patent. They're infringing because they're faggots.

>>64528035
I had a seekins precision lower that had an overtravel screw that if I tightened too much fucked with the geometry somehow and made it fire on pull and release with a basic bitch milspec trigger. Replace the SS with a standard safety and see if you can replicate the issue, if you can't then your SS is interacting with your trigger or disconnector even in semi mode and you'll have to figure out how.

>>64528062
>yay let 8 year olds drive lambos!
You own no property. Opinion discarded.

>>64528048
I replaced every part besides the SS parts.
>>64528240
I replaced everything, and before the SS never had this issue.

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>>64528296
I own property and my guns are probably worth more than your car faggot.

>>64528473
>owns 170 acres
My combine costs more than your house.
>no stamp
Rule 1.

>>64528487
>show me your stamp sonny
Fuck off fudd, report me to the ATF so I can waste their time and check the stamp themselves

list of platforms that have forced reset capabilities either released for confirmed for being worked on
AR15 platform
SCAR platform
Sig MCX platform
SP5 and clones
Stribog platform
Kriss Vector
PS90
Glock
Beretta 90 series
Canik
Smith and Wesson M&P
BRN-180
CMMG Dissent
AUG
PSA JAKL
Springfield KUNA
G3
B&T GHM/APC
HK UMP
FN M249S
HK G36
PSA ROCK 5.7
Taurus TX22
JTS AR-12
LWRC SMG-45
Matador Arms Uppers

There are probably others, but this is at the top of my head

>>64528568
Did you forget the AK?

>>64528594
yeah I did, sorry for the retardation

Yes the AK is SS capable

Vector FRT install vid

https://youtu.be/rWRqzxo17iQ

>>64528307
What does that mean, did you replace the SS with a standard safety and see if you could replicate the issue? If so, then the SS is interacting with the trigger or the disconnector even in semi mode, which it shouldn't, so you'll have to find where that interaction is happening and correct it.

>>64528602
I should say, if your current FCG with a standard safety works like it should then you have to diagnose SS and disconnecter/trigger interactions.

>>64528487
*your dad's combine

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What is the best 3 position SS or FRT for a Zastava RPK? Or, if there's no suitable unit for it, what is the best RPK for use with an SS or FRT? Just seems like it could be tremendously fun at the range, and I want to evaluate the best options before committing. Bonus if it has a traditional AK safety selector. I'm willing to cut a notch for an FRT position.

Additionally, if all options are hit or miss, should I just wait a couple years for the market to produce something better? Right now it seems like slim pickings for AK FRTs and SSs

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>>64529307
I've been working decently hard trying to get FRT SS mechanisms working in various AKs. Probably close to 4000 rounds now over the past few months. Bottom line, if you're not mechanically inclined, and ready to spend time hand fitting, dremeling, potentially buying multiple triggers and safety selectors to get shit working, getting a three position working reliably as more than just a fun range toy on an RPK isn't probably the route to go currently.

In terms of difficulty in my experience, ranked from most to least difficult:
1) Three position FRT SS in an RPK Mil Spec FCG
2) Three position FRT SS in an AKM Mil Spec FCG
3) Two position FRT SS in a MAK-90 Mil Spec FCG
4) Two position FRT SS in an AKM/100 series, ALG AKT trigger

My first FRT SS install was in a PSA AK102
It was very straightforward. Little dremel work to create the ramp on the rear of the trigger bar, function checked, went to the range and it ripped no issues.
I put around 1000 rounds through the setup, then moved that cam, trigger bar, and trigger setup (ALG AKT) into a kit build Romanian PM md. 90 SBR Kit build, and it has been ripping basically flawlessly.

I got a two position setup working in my MAK-90 with the typical work to the trigger bar, but some additional clearance work on the trip bar. But it works pretty damn reliably so far.

I've been fighting to get three position working truly reliably on both my friend's M72 RPK, and on another SBR AKM kit build of mine. The M72 RPK seems like it might be a bit closer to working? But not sure. I've got it sorta working in the AKM, but if you squeeze the trigger hard the action binds up and doesn't cycle until you release trigger pressure. Basically it works as a toy, not as a gun.

Exactly what gun are you trying to get it to run in? M72 RPK?
My suggestion is to get one working first in a basic AKM, so you get a feel for how the install goes in an AKM, THEN try to get one working in an RPK.

https://streamable.com/znd72g

>>64529485
Wow, that's impressive work. I wish you all the best in making progress. That is a really big undertaking.
>Exactly what gun are you trying to get it to run in? M72 RPK?
I don't own an RPK to run it in right now, but that's the dream gun. I'm just trying to get a feel for how practical it would be. But yes, a Zastava M72 RPK seems ideal. I like that they're currently being manufactured and done so with a consistent spec, rather than being some parts kit build with components made decades ago.

>My suggestion is to get one working first in a basic AKM, so you get a feel for how the install goes in an AKM, THEN try to get one working in an RPK.
This seems like a reasonable course of action. Currently, I have a Molot Vepr in x39 with a Tapco trigger (This firearm was made and imported only a couple years before the Obama import ban sanctions, and purchased used just shortly after). However, I have some hangups on modifying it, given that x39 Veprs prices have become totally retarded at this point.

You're post was very helpful. I'll weigh my options.

>>64528568
Can I get a link to the Canik one?
>>64529485
Have you tried contacting S3igu2 to see if you could work together?

Pembleton is working on a 1911 FRT that works in single and double stack models
https://x.com/pembie000ind/status/1990223060700733858

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>>64529519
Honestly IMO the issues presented to getting an FRT/SS working in an M72 RPK are probably about the same as getting one to work in a standard pattern RPK kit build, or hell buy a new make Romanian AES10B

How practical? It would be fucking sick I'll tell ya hawhut bobby. The issue is just the time and effort to get it to work. What I do know is that my two position in my AKM and my MAK-90 work VERY well, and you get get them to lock up or anything with strong trigger finger pressure.
>Molot VEPR
I believe these are 1.5mm receivers no? Bulged front trunnion no? This is not a standard AKM.
Unironically if you want to mess around, grab a WASR-10, and this kit:

https://muffintoptactical.com/AK-Super-Safety-Kit_p_14.html

Or grab two kits for $99 each here:
https://www.performancetriggers.com/ak-super-safety-the-ak-hammer.html

A dremel and you should be able to get it working in a WASR.

>>64529535
Not directly, but I chatted with Hoffman a bit and I tried the S3igu2 trigger profile jig. I don't know what fucking cam that multi ramp jig was meant for, but when I tried it, it didn't work for shit and ate up a trigger, and all of the success I have had with the three position attempts, both with my friend's M72 and in my AKM, was just doing what a lot of other people are reporting, which is taking the standard 2 position ramp profile jig, and just cutting more and removing more material until the amplitude of the reset is small enough that it doesn't unhook the disconnector when in semi mode.

https://streamable.com/qtkpjb

>>64529485
what's your take on the fime trigger difficulty?

stop buying atrius potmetal

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>>64529597
I haven't done one yet, but it doesn't look all the different than making an ALG or a mil-spec trigger work.
If you're okay just doing two position, and you've got an AKM of some sort, jump right in. It truly wasn't bad at all.

https://streamable.com/ctps76

>>64528601
That's honestly more involved than I thought. Should be fine but I really hate roll pins so that a bit of a letdown, never disassembled mine that much.

>>64518935
>there's nothing legally binding the government from reclassifying "approved" FRTs as contraband at some later date.
Actually the doctrine of entrapment by estoppel forbids this. At the very least it gives you an affirmative defense if they tried to do that.

Sooo which is the actual problem for the Atrius SS? Is it the lever? BCG needs to be dremeled to clear lever? Trigger polishing? WTF is going on. So many takes and yet so many different solutions.

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>>64529673
Just get this:
https://activesafetydesigns.com/ar15/arc-fire-trigger-ambi-kit/

I put about 1200 rounds through the Atrius before selling it after it bent/broke the the lever the 3rd time. I clearanced the cam, verified no binding etc.

My opinion is that the lever simply isn't made strong enough enough material and with the right steel for the job.

I dropped the Arc-Fire from ASD into the EXACT same setup that I had broken 3x Atrius levers in, and I'm at 825 rounds so far with a SINGLE failure to fire which might have been ammo honestly, and I'm squeezing the trigger HARD in the same way that was resulting in bent Atrius levers, and I'm not seeing any issues.

>>64529621
thanks for the response

>>64529542
>AK doesn't work well
Shame :(

wish I could use an FRT t b h
my gay-ass boomer range will kick you out for using a fucking binary trigger

>>64531124
Easily half the country is unavailable for this even if it's legal. Shit sucks.

>>64529542
>It would be fucking sick I'll tell ya hawhut bobby
It's going to happen to matter what sooner or later. The RPK and Vector are the two guns I most want to FRT-ize.

>I believe these are 1.5mm receivers no? Bulged front trunnion no? This is not a standard AKM.
Yes, you're right. I neglected that in my first post.
>Unironically if you want to mess around, grab a WASR-10, and this kit:
That might be a good way to go. I might do a Vector first. More expensive up front, but cheaper in the long run with the cost of ammo. But the RPK is my true love.

I wish non AR FRTs weren't so obscenely expensive. I get that the market is smaller but God damn over $400 for AUGs

>>64532403
glock is really cheap

>>64532403
If it's any consolation, it's still cheaper than true-blue MG, often by several thousand dollars. But year, it's still frustration. Let's see where the market is in a couple years. I'm sure things will improve (barring politics).

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>>64532403
>obscenely expensive
Are you out of your mind? Transferable machine guns START at like $7000-$8000. STARTING. For a piece of shit. A full auto AK or M16 is what, $30k?
And you're complaining about spending even $500?

>>64532639
>Let's see where the market is
It won't go anywhere if chuddites just sit and wait and twiddle their thumbs. Go buy one, install it, and go shoot it, and show your friends.

https://streamable.com/jecio8

>>64532756
>suppressed SKS

how? did you get the barrel threaded?

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>>64532766
>how?
Paid a gunsmith
It is pretty quite with subs ngl, and cycles.

>>64532778
neato

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You think these are gonna be reclassed as MGs when dems take power again? I wanna invest into SS/FRTs but dont wanna get my door kicked in over cope full auto.

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>>64532819
>invest
First off all, guns and gun parts are not investments.
Secondly, the chance of them being reclassed as MGs will be reduced if more people have them. Proliferation becomes common use, and common use prevents outright banning.
>door kicked in
If they do get banned, which they won't IF people buy them and they start proliferating, you'll have time to throw you FRT SS devices in the recycling bin.

>>64532819
Buy them from your local guns version of craigslist. In AZ it's called AZ guns classified

>>64532819
Unless Vance wins the primary for 2028 and the economy implodes before hand
, I just don't see a dem winning this decade

>>64532201
Any way to lower the Vectors RoF? I've been torn between the Vector or a Stribog for 10mm - the Bog is going to need a glock mag lower as I already have a G20 but the slower rof + UMP larp has got me conflicted

So if FRT/SS do get banned again, how do I prove that I lost them?

Also I'm considering buying an ARC trigger when they restock. Has there been any word on them fixing the issues they had earlier?

>>64533362
The government does not have the man power to track down every Tom, Dick and Harry who owns a fart trigger. Hell the glownigs can’t even keep drugs off the streets or niggers from getting giggle switches for glocks. They are so small you could keep them almost anywhere.

Don’t be a weak faggot cuck anon.

>>64532894
RE-cycling the FRTs constantly in my guns.

>>64533440
Yes, but hypothetically if I were unlucky enough to have a cop or ATFaggot knock on my door.

>>64533448
i'd tell them you have a bump stock or binary trigger and thell them to kick rocks. If they get some warrant somehow, buried 2 foot underground it goes.

>>64533362
>the issues they had earlier?
what issues? Mines been working great

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>>64511170
Need it or sneed it? (I own a Beryl)

https://armsofamerica.com/fb-beryl-frt-forced-reset-trigger/

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>>64532894
>If they do get banned, which they won't IF people buy them and they start proliferating

>>64533737
me see not 3-position FRT, me not buy

>>64532894
>If they do get banned, which they won't IF people buy them and they start proliferating
because that has stopped other bans.

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>>64533362
>how do I prove that I lost them
Lol newfag. Boating accident. Always a boating accident. Also the burden of proof isn't on you? I can't tell these days if the kids are retarded, people are trolling, or if I'm talking to bots meant to just dilute the conversation with bullshit.

>>64533737
https://texastriggerusa.com/
Look at that website dude... I think it says a lot about the product that you can't really find an image of the parts that make up with kit... Almost as if they don't want potentially customers to see the dumb as wire trip bar and realize what sort of bullshit they're spending $200-$300 on.
AFAIK the Beryl basically is an AKM/100 series gun in terms of receiver thickness, carrier dimensions, and fire control group. This means that a standard AKM FRT SS kit should, keyword, SHOULD, be able to be fitted for good function. I would start there, with a dremel.
https://muffintoptactical.com/AK-Super-Safety-Kit_p_14.html

>>64533800
It absolutely has.

>>64533757
Those companies will have more capital and incentive to design and produce a three position if the two positions sell well.

>>64533898
>It absolutely has.
Why are you pretending to be retarded? Several states now have "assault weapons bans" for the most common rifle in America. California just banned Glocks, the most common handgun in America. New York does whatever shit it does. Common use is regularly disregard and ignored and it doesn't matter how in common use something is. It shouldn't even ben an argument but that's a different discussion.

>>64533913
>are you pretending to be retard
No, and you're actually just being legally ignorant. The common use defense is an example of case law, so the ban needs to be passed, go into effect, be applied, then be taken to court, where the case law can then be cited. See:
Here are **five of the most significant cases** where the *common-use* doctrine was central, listed **by name and date**:

1. **District of Columbia v. Heller (2008)**
2. **Caetano v. Massachusetts (2016)**
3. **Teter v. Lopez (2023)**
4. **Maloney v. Rice (2018)**
5. **State v. Delgado (1984)**

>>64534003
Now you're behaving like the typical holier than thou tripfag. Cut that shit out faggot. I cited multiple states that don't give a fuck about law or common use precedent along with active bans that are on going right now and taking years to simply challenge them.

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>>64532756
In fairness, the cope used to be that transferables were long term investments that only go up, whereas there's little chance of ever profiting on an FRT gun. Speaking of which, I just checked and M16 prices are crashing thanks to FRTs. Get fucked boomers!
youtube.com/watch?v=57o2y7qrfe4

>>64534060
Those bans are being challeneged because of the common use caselaw. Our legal system is the problem:
>pass law you know is illegal
>enforce illegal law for years
>finally enforce it against someone independantly wealthy, or activist group finds a good test case
>delay
>law overturned
>appeal and stay order
>delay
>repeat up until circuit court
>law overturned
>appeal
>delay
>maybe there's a circuit court split and the supreme court hears the case
>law overturned
>suffer zero consequences for passing and enforcing a law that you knew was illegal from the start
>pass a new illegal law that accomplishes the same thing through a different avenue
>start all over again
This process can take decades and bleeds the resources from activist groups, severely limiting what they can accomplish. This applies to everything, not just firearms, and it's why who you elect on local and state levels are far more important than who is sitting in the supreme court.

>>64534223
Yeah, our system is supremely fucked. Bruen was handed down because of New York. What does New York do? Pass another law without giving a single damn. I won't press on much further though because obviously this conversation is not meant for this board, I just got upset when the tripfag behaved like a bot and blatantly disregarded current events because he wanted to make some bullshit point.

Asking here since no fosscad thread and this is adjacent:
How glowed up is the hoffman site for their little parts kits/reinforcement parts?
Always wanted to try my hand at this and despite being legal dont like the idea of getting on watchlists any more than 4chan already gets me on. Are there other better sites to source from or?

>>64534279
>How glowed up is the hoffman site
Are you asking if original designer is a glownig?

>>64534310
I'm asking if the feds and payment processors give a fuck he is selling the spooky evil ghost gun components.

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>>64534060
>>64534223
Not being holier than though. Common use is not meaningless just because legislators will pass illegal legislation.

>>64534188
>get fucked boomers
+1 updoots

>>64534268
>bullshit point
This is the conversation. It isn't a bullshit point. The more common use that FRTs and SS have, the more protected they are in the LARGER picture. Sure some illegal legislation might get passed banning the locally or regionally as the legal processes proceeds... But they're still protected by the nature of them being in common use. That is why I cited successful overturning of various 2A related bans which argued based on common use that the illegal laws were illegal. Because it isn't a bullshit point, it arguably is our most salient and likely to succeed path forward. Make FRTs as common as semi autos, normalize them, share them etc etc. You calling it a bullshit point is boomer defeatist or accelerationist garble and doesn't contribute productively towards anything except pessimism and unironically the further erosion of our rights. Just because I think you're wrong, and I'm arguing with you, doesn't mean I think I'm "holier" than you. Jesus.

>>64534279
Not glowed up at all IMO.

>>64534397
The more people that sack up and just buy it, the more resource intensive it would be for them to give a fuck and track people down. If everyone tip toed around this, they would win and we would lose. If everyone sacked the fuck up, we would win, and they would lose. So what is it gonna be pardner?

>>64534397
I'm sure they do. If you're concerned, take precautionary steps to try to hide your purchase. If you're in a state where they're legal, then just buy shit.

>>64511170
I was at the Indiana Fairgrounds gunshow over the weekend, and some guy was showing off a Super Safety with a little hat on top of the lever. He said it keeps the lever centered during cycling or something like that. Is that an official thing now? Did Tim Hoffman come up with it or is it some new aftermarket gadgetry?

It looked like a pretty good quality Super Safety and included an endcap plug.

>>64534279
Why would you think Tim was a government informant? He's the one INVENTING AND DESIGNING all this stuff. You think he's doing that just to get good goy points from ZOG?

>>64534401
>Common use is not meaningless just because legislators will pass illegal legislation.
Did you mean to write something as hilarious as you did?

>>64534003
>1. **District of Columbia v. Heller (2008)**
>2. **Caetano v. Massachusetts (2016)**
>3. **Teter v. Lopez (2023)**
>4. **Maloney v. Rice (2018)**
>5. **State v. Delgado (1984)**
>tell it to the judge, you're under arrest
>oh, and your guns are impounded
>and as a felony arrest, you can't have them back

>>64534401
>Not being holier than though. Common use is not meaningless just because legislators will pass illegal legislation.
I agree, I was pointing out to the other anon that his complaints are with our legal system/process. Exercising rights is the best way to keep them. I would argue though, that even "common use" is far too narrow and Scalia was a major cuck in the heller decision. The intention of the second amendment was to ensure that the people retained the monopoly on violence, not the government, and should be interpreted to mean that all manner of arms used in warfare are available to the people. The whataboutism with nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons have the same implication for the people as they do for the government.

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>>64534450
>>64535087
Your understanding of our constitutional republic and the interplay between the legislative and judicial branches of government as the system works through the project of bringing into alignment what is legal and what is morally right is woefully 2-dimensional.

>>64534425
No idea what you're talking about but I've got 825 rounds on my Arc-fire from Active Safety Designs and it is working well.

>>64535531
>his complaints are with our legal system/process
idk bro I think the balance of powers system works relatively well compared to a lot of the alternatives. If his dumb ass wants a system that can't ever have contradictions in the "law" he can go find some feudal or parliamentarian shithole where there is never such an issue (they'll just fuck you with NO recourse available).

>>64526147
FRT aren't illegal in Florida. LGS sell them everywhere out here.

>>64536208
>Your understanding of our constitutional republic and the interplay between the legislative and judicial branches of government as the system works through the project of bringing into alignment what is legal and what is morally right is woefully 2-dimensional.
As can be said for how many enforcement officers? That's what really matters here.

>>64536208
> is woefully 2-dimensional.
I have lost all respect for you, as much as I had respect for a tripfag which was very little to begin with. You're literally sticking your head in the sand screaming that reality is fiction. Shut the fuck up retard.

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>>64536772
>As can be said for how many enforcement officers? That's what really matters here.
Doesn't matter much if you got a belt fed FRT

>>64536930
What a well put argument against the significance of FRTs falling under the definition or not of common use.

>>64536988
>well put argument
listen you dumb cunt, you ever heard of the saying
>you can beat the rap but you can't beat the ride
And even beating the rap is questionable in the communist states of America. This whole shit series of posts started because you went
>muh legal precedent
while legal precedent is literally being ignored in what, 20 states now? And then you proceeded to go "nuh uh that's not happening."

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>>64537005
>while legal precedent is being ignored
Like I said earlier, you completely misunderstand the entire governmental system that we're talking about here where the legislative branch is not one in the same with the judicial branch. Just because the legislators "ignore" the legal precedent and pass laws that are "illegal" doesn't make the system useless or dumb or pointless and it certainly is better than ALL of the alternatives that mankind has dreamt up and applied up until now. In fact it is precisely this relatively speaking "flexible", "subjectivist", and prone to apparent contradiction (you can beat the rap but not the ride) system that helps our government and society carefully (with respect to god given inalienable objective rights and ethics) but asymptotically approach a more perfect state of affairs even as technology, information, understanding, and humanity evolve.
I certainly did NOT say anything as fucking stupid as "nuh uh that's not happening". In fact I have multiple times explained that plenty of bans go into effect and people are subjected to unjust laws, but it is precisely the argument of common use (among others) that can and HAS actually helped them "beat the rap" as you put it.
Back to the ORIGINAL argument, common use absolutely is a thing, absolutely has meaning and impact, and arguing against that in the context of FRTSSG and the proliferation of these devices is fucking retarded because guess what.... The more FRT and SS that are out there, the better things are, independent of whether or not you understand the balance of powers in our governmental system.

>>64537067
>Like I said earlier, you completely misunderstand the entire governmental system
Stopped reading. Bruen was literally passed to address states like New York not following legal precedent and they almost literally said "fuck you." The AR15 is one of the most common rifles in the United States and there are multiple states that have banned it.
Get your head out of your ass.

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>>64537142
>stopped reading
Wow very intelligent.
>states like New York not following legal precedent
You should try reading. It is precisely the structure of our system that allows for legislation to "not follow legal precedent". Legal precedent means what the courts decide is legal. Legislation being passed is "law" but not law. Get your head out of your ass (and read).
>The AR15 is one of the most common rifles in the United States and there are multiple states that have banned it
Multiple states have passed "laws" banning it, and the lawsuits are currently in process by which a common use argument could be used to strike down these unjust "laws".

I fucking chatGPT'd it for your dumb ass:

"Lawmakers in the United States can pass laws that are later found unlawful or unconstitutional, but this doesn’t mean they are allowed to pass “illegal laws” in the normal sense. It happens because of how the U.S. system of checks and balances works.

Here’s why it can happen:

1. Congress has broad law-making power

Legislators can propose and pass almost any law they believe is within their constitutional authority. There is no automatic filter that blocks unconstitutional ideas before they pass.

Think of Congress as having the first move—but not the final say.

2. Courts decide constitutionality after a law is passed

The U.S. Supreme Court and lower federal courts have the power of judicial review, meaning they can strike down laws that violate the Constitution.

This review happens only if someone challenges the law in court.

So an unconstitutional law can be “on the books” for months, years, or even decades before the courts overturn it.

5. The system is designed this way

The Framers intentionally separated powers:

Legislature makes laws

Executive enforces laws

Judiciary reviews laws

This means a law can be passed without being guaranteed constitutional. The system relies on checks after the fact rather than preventing problematic laws in advance."

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>>64537142
I get it you're mad and it feels and is unfair that the legislative branch can pass unjust laws, but you know what is worse? A system where the legislation can pass unjust laws and there is no procedure for recourse that is independent of the legislative branch.
Why don't you go propose some alternative government structure Einstein, or you could instead recognize that both at a legal, practical, and cultural level, proliferation of something is one of the most powerful and effective ways to prevent its restriction/regulation/banning.
Pull your head out of your ass, I get that you're desperately trying to rope others into your victim mentality pessimistic mindset to validate your own inaction, but why not try something else on? Why not... Buy a fucking FRT or SS, install it, enjoy it, and show others and help it proliferate?

>>64537169
>I get it you're mad
I'm mad because you're a cunt that ignores reality and then types up a dissertation about why you're right when you're wrong. You're trying to """educate""" me about how our government works. Instead of addressing the elephant in the room, admitting that you're wrong, and then going back to discussing FRTs, you keep coming up with bullshit excuse after bullshit excuse about why you're ackshually right and multiple states in the country aren't actually doing the opposite of what you're claiming in real time, and that we haven't been fighting decades long court cases to stop that shit from happening.

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>>64537226
>Admitting that I'm wrong
>what you're claiming in real time
Make an argument then dude? I've made mine, and I'll make it again since we've established you're allergic to reading, especially if there are a lot of words (FYI a dissertation is hundreds of pages).

We ought to work to proliferate FRT and SS so as to put them into undeniable common use as described and interpreted by the supreme court and other courts in case law. There status as being in common use is an important and powerful defense against their regulation and banning. Period. Just because legislatures can pass laws which are later struck down by arguments such as common use, does not mean that the common use status and argument is any more or less meaningless than any other aspect of of case law. If your gripe is with the structure of our government and how case law supersedes legislative law not in time, but in power, then go take it up with human history and come back with a better governmental form. Until then, buy FRT and SS, share them, show them to other people, celebrate them, and help them proliferate into common use, or explain somehow why doing so is BAD or detrimental, since we've established that it isn't useless or meaningless, or try again to make your argument that FRT or SS being in common use is useless or meaningless, but do it in a way that doesn't call into question the entire structure of our government, because that is all you have done so far, bitch and moan that the legislature can pass laws which are unconstitutional and immoral, and must be later (in time) struck down by the judiciary...

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Can you two shut the fuck up and just enjoy that FRTs and SSs exist?

>>64537542
Sorry, I'm hiding the retard's posts now. He's adamant to die on his hill.

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>>64537159
>The U.S. Supreme Court and lower federal courts have the power of judicial review, meaning they can strike down laws that violate the Constitution.
This is very um ackshually but TECHNICALLY courts do not "strike down" anything. A law passed in violation of the constitution was never law to begin with, and a finding that a law is unconstitutional is simply a finding by the court that the law itself does not hold any legitimate force and therefore does not apply in whatever situtation the state is trying to apply it to. The law itself still technically "exists", it is simply rendered unenforceable.

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>>64537566
Touche, and I mean that genuinely.

>>64537542
Not only am I enjoying them, I'm trying to help others enjoy them too, and help them proliferate.

>>64537159
>Legislation being passed is "law" but not law.
uhhh im pretty sure in shitholes like california you would have your 30 round mags taken away with no ifs ands or buts about it. You can say it's an unjust law but that's not going to stop police.

vectors OOB the most of any pcc in SEMI do not buy one

>>64538851
source?

>>64538892
if you half charge the gun you can still pull the trigger and hit the firing pin

>>64536988
>Doesn't matter much if you got a belt fed FRT
Wtf? To who? You gonna gun down Barney Fife for trying to take ur guns from ur live warm fingers b cuz "muh common use"? Sure, tough guy.

>>64538935
any footage or anything? There's tons of documentation of the cz scorpion

Also what generation?

>>64539004
just google vector oob
i had one and that was one reason i got rid of it, the other being the barrels are threaded but shoulderless

>>64539072
okay but which gen? I'm not saying you're wrong, just not seeing a lot of information

>>64539081
all of them, its a fundamental design flaw/atf requirement

>>64539084
I do seem one here

https://youtu.be/EVc8NNr155A

Interesting

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>>64539087

>>64539091
I saw a post with this image but that guy hand loaded ammo, too many variables with that

>>64539092
it says on that post he's using factory ammo though

>>64539096
hmm interesting, would be even more interesting to see if it's a gen 3

I would not expect gen 3 to have such issues

>>64539101
i dont know why you wouldnt, gen 3 was just changes to the stock interface, handguard, and grip. nothing changed internally. the scorpion still had the same issues from evo to 3+.

>>64539108
fair enough, thanks for bring this to my attention

I think I'll still get it though because it seems like there are a small amount of reports.

>>64538851
Should I go stribog for a 10mm w/ FRT then over thr vector?

>>64539108
Scorpion is direct blowback though, OOB or more common & accurately Advanced Primer ignition is a fact of life with direct blowback which relies entirely on spring weight, buffering and bolt mass.
The vectors drop bolt off axis blowback is technically a delayed blowback system - but RoF's being as high as 1200rpm and the still quite violent nature of the action leads me to believe there isn't enough 'delay' going on - hence advanced primer ignitions

>>64539517
stribog or an apc10 with an as designs lower
the vector operating system is direct blowback with a 45 degree angle, its still just reciprocating mass and a big spring there are no detents, rollers, rotational locking, etc. if you have a jam or double feed or your trigger outruns the gun or anything like that you can have an oob because the trigger can still cause the firing pin to impact the primer with the action open.

>>64539108
>>64539517
The Vector, while off axis/gravity delayed blowback, suffers from one con shared with direct blowback in that it doesn't lock the bolt into the trunnion or reciever like a piston or DI gun with a rotating bolt or locking shoulder would, or like how a roller delayed blowback gun like MP5, Kuna or Stribog would lock the rollers into locking recesses in either the reciever or trunnion respectively.
Vectors are undersprung as it is but the problems could be entirely eliminated in the next generation of vectors with something as simple as a locking shoulder

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Lol
Lmao even

>>64540215
Go Cam!

>>64540215
literally who

>>64540268
Twin bros, who apparently tried to sell the super safety patent to rare breed

>>64539544
>off axis/gravity delayed blowback
This is a fucking meme right up there with open bolt API blowback and the Blish lock. I don't believe it has a significant effect and I've seen no proof to the contrary.

>>64540309
It definitely doesn't have enough of an delaying effect as its currently sprung (aside from some recoil mitigation).
IMO they should just integrate a locking shoulder and a wedge lock/lever - ie lever delayed blowback - it would nearly half the rpm, stop the API/OOB problems, and would require minimal engineering and still allow the whole super-V off axis nonsense

>>64540282
>super safety patent
so they cooked one up after the fact? hoffman explicitly didnt get a patent (average lolbertarian)

>>64540638
He's either lying about the patent or he's trying to force Hoffman to reveal information in discovery.

>>64540666
thanks satan

>>64540215
Faggot is probably being paid by Demonico at fag breed triggers to attack Hoffman.

>>64540215
>>64540265
>>64540268
>>64540282
>>64540666
Proving derivation is pretty fucking difficult.

>>64540638
>so they cooked one up after the fact? hoffman explicitly didnt get a patent (average lolbertarian)
I remember early on in this mess, shortly after the supposed "ATF raid" on TwinBros, that Tim Hoffman decided to file for a patent. It was pretty late in the game, and I don't remember the exact timing, but it's possible to file for one in the U.S. for up to one year after the initial disclosure.

I got the impression that Tim thought having his own patent would prevent Rare Breed from suing. It doesn't work that way, patents only give you the right to sue, not a defense against suit (unless the documentation is dated early enough to show that you "possessed the invention" or specific elements of it prior to a given date.

>>64541435
>I remember early on in this mess, shortly after the supposed "ATF raid" on TwinBros, that Tim Hoffman decided to file for a patent.
Thats what i find funny with tim's reasoning for not getting a patent immediately in the first place. If he patented it he could just license to whoever wants it with a boilerplate licensing agreement. he could still not accept any royalties. Which would be monetarily retarded of course, but still possible if he cares that much about not skimming 1-10% off the top. He was going to get dragged into a fight regardless so why not have it.

maybe he applied within the one year window. who knows. we'll find out.

>>64542510
Isn't the dude in his 20s? Blissfully ignorant.

New ar15 FRT

https://www.bssquirts.store/product/arss15-drop-in/

>>64543936
>bsssquirts
ain't clickin that shit nigga

>>64543971
why not?

>my MPX slip trip arrived yesterday
>ARC restock today
Man I can't wait

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>>64543936
Sick of these faggot companies that don't just show an image of the actual product.

>>64544247
>ARC
Gonna shoot mine more this weekend. 825 rounds so far, one failure to fire, could have been ammo though.

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>>64544260
here is video

https://youtu.be/92xEKa_Z9n4

>>64544247
I'm dropping 500 dollars today, good thing I'm not poor

>>64544292
>>64544260
another cool option out there that requires even less manipulation

Also no cut triggers are required

damn, was the arc ever for sale or did it sell out already?

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heh, nothin personnel chuds

>>64544621
14691 here

>>64543936
>>64544292
its just an arizona regulator

>>64544621
I thought about buying two, one for an ar and one for the L6 but i'll just stick with the one for the L6

>>64544628
you can use the ARC in more platforms and there are more trigger options, if you only care about ar-15 and milspec triggers then yeah AZ regulator is better

>>64544292
Nice that its cheaper than the Arizona but that company name is retarded

>>64544628
my apologies, I thought you were talking about the ARC

>>64544605
yes, twice. You just missed the current batch

>>64544681
Aren't they currently in stock? Thought they did a restock today at 3pm. Unless they're sold out within 30 minutes

>>64542510
I don't know what his reasoning was initially, but it costs a few thousand bucks to get a patent even if you do it yourself. I guess with the microentity fees nowadays it can be much cheaper, but the moment you need a patent attorney or agent to help you out, the costs go waaaaaay up.

And the problem is, the USPTO examiners actively discriminate against self-filers and subject their applications to the most ridiculous rejections you can imagine. The examiners aren't exactly graded on the number of rejections, but they act as if they are, and the easiest way to rack up your counts is to beat up some novice who doesn't know all the tricks about arguing and appealing.

Fuck you, Shawna Stepp Jones, for being an illiterate cunt who can't even tell the difference between a resistive sensor and an optical sensor. I'm glad that dumb bitch "retired".

>He was going to get dragged into a fight regardless so why not have it.
Objection, facts not in evidence. Rare Breed didn't even have the '247 patent at the time the Super Safety came out. It was filed but wasn't issued until almost a year later.

Also, if he were making money off the SS, he'd be at risk of being dragged into the lawsuit himself. Publishing technical data (which he did prior to issuance of '247) is not an infringement, nor is getting a patent on that technical data -- if it were, the whole patent system would collapse because companies could sue each other for coming up with workarounds to their filings.

>>64544666
Hail Satan.

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>>64512683
>having the ability to tune with additional gas, mass, and spring
I remember seeing some of the trips for the .22LR conversions use tungsten weights inside the 3d-printed sleds (or whatever you call them). What diameter of tungsten rods were they using? I can't seem to find any posts about it on /r/ss. :-(

>>64544908
https://greymarketresearch.net/ar22lr-bolt-weight/

so are frts going to get killed by greed and patent litigation

>>64544934
yeah, I have horrible fomo

Put my order in for Batch 2 of the Arc Fire system from AS Designs today. I'm going to put it in my MPXk.

>>64545312
nice one! I bought 2 and need another 2

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Grey market was working on a 1911 FRT and will be releasing the files on Monday, it's not complete though, but it's interesting

>>64545316
I'm trying to budget more responsibly these days. Right now, I have no desire to FRT my AR's. That may change. I did need to buy a new trigger, as the MPX gen 3 comes with a Timney cassette trigger, and something called a slip trip kit. One arrived and the other should get here tomorrow.

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>>64545319
The only reason I'd ever want this is to make picrel, otherwise I can't see the appeal

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>>64544292
>>64544304
>>64544628
Yeah looks like some wiggers just stealing the Arizona Regulator design.

>>64545671
interesting that this is in 9mm

What's the best 22lr implementation these days? I understand they can be finicky, and the one ar I have does not seem supported