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>russian AA fire against incoming ukie drones at novorossiysk a few hours ago

uh, what happens to all the AA rounds fired towards the city?
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>>64522581
>uh, what happens to all the AA rounds fired towards the city?
usually, AA rounds are self-destructing to prevent them from destroying things on the ground
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>>64522581
again??
>>64522590
14.5mm doesn't self destruct, these have destroyed civilian cars and homes before.
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>>64522605
>these have destroyed civilian cars and homes before.

may we see it?
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>>64522581
>23mm and up
They self-destruct after a certain distance, st least that's the idea
>12.7 and smaller
Finds it's home lodged somewhere, in something or in someone
>14.5
I actually don't know but outlook not good
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>>64522618
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>>64522581
>uh, what happens to all the AA rounds fired towards the city?
AA round hits ground instead of air, is job for ground defense now
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>>64522618
>video shows russian vessels absolutely saturating residential areas with various large and medium caliber munitions
>proofs????
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>>64522634
>kia

pretty sure that's detroit
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>>64522634
>car no work then you are not of needing road
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>>64522581
Does anyone have the geo pic of the ASS-300/400 battery that got blown up yesterday that's right next to a residential area?
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>>64522699
its in the middle of a park to the western side, the vatniks were using the area as a base but moved out some time ago and stuck a battery there
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>>64522699
?
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>>64522698
fpbp
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>>64522714
It really boggles the mind that zigs on /k/ who live in the west fight tooth and nail to shill for this guy every day.
I’ve never seen such an open disdain for the average man.
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>>64522711
>>64522699
That looks like it, I highlighted the yellow circle with the area in a FIRMS cap from last night
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>>64522581
What goes up must come down, even the emotional support AA.
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>>64522746
Why the fuck would they put their SAM into a city park instead of onto the 9001 mountaintops around the city?
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>>64522714
>fpbp
>First Post Best Post
(You) say this when the first post in the thread is the perfect reply, wether it's a definitive answer to the topic or a flawless takedown. Now get out.
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>>64522969
because Puccians can only project their own failings onto others.
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>>64522581
Stop noticing
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I wonder why the man on the video mentions allah 10 times.
Every time I see a video from rushitstan, it is always some muslim churka. Are polchuds lying to me about r*ssia being white?
There is also video of morrocan negro filming Ryazan Oil Refiniery burning this morning.
me/exilenova_plus/13880
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>>64523216
The replacement was going on for some time, they brought in heaps of churka's from the neighboring stan's to work in factories, building sites, delivery drivers and other dogsbody labour things. They're all muzzies and in terms of employees they're probably not that bad as they work for less than Russians do, aren't chronic alcoholics and if you've ever unfortunately had anything to do with Russians, they spend about 90% of their time at work complaining about being there, not working and finding reasons to do even less than the average corpse.
>In fact if you propped up a corpse at the desk they'd be employee of the month before a Russian

A lot of those dudes got wrapped up in the whole roundup of 'illegal migrants' in Mosquecow and told to sign a contract, most being under the impression they'd get a visa, passport or something like that just digging holes out the back of Donbabwe, driving trucks and that lasted about a week and they got sent off into 'the churn' of the late first year all being killed somewhere exotic. So they became less common for a while as the smart churka keeps his head down and runs like a nigger on fathers day if he sees the state boi's turning up at work.
So they had to drag in some 'other meat'
All the nignogs, stan goblins, poos and paki's got lured in with the promise of money, citizenship and all dem white weemon or whatever the fuck works. Moscow has a lot of mosques and a huge population of muzzies all through the country, most in the south east and practically most of the east of the Urals are muslim hordes. So bringing in the mud and dirt coloured ones are just a same shit really
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>>64523022
dumbass
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>>64522746
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>>64523022
it means "first post body pic" and it's an ad hominem
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>>64523216
always has been
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>>64523276
Last fire nighttime
A Russian, winking cuck watches
betrayed by the fuel
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>>64523293
better find a replacement at this point lmao
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>>64523246
You’re talking about the Mosque and major cities though.
Nobopoccnrsk is located on the Black Sea shore. Russians genocided the Ukrainian population there in the 19th and 20th centuries, and subsequently "lost" these lands to caucasian muslims, because there were no people anymore to act as a buffer. The collapse of the russian population there accelerated after Putin’s election in 2000 and selling those lands to local warlords by the FSB.
Crimea is now full of chechen mafia too, which pushed russians (who were brought in by the Soviet Union) out of business. There is no happy ending for russians no matter how you look at it and there is nobody they can blame for it.
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>>64523246
>most in the south east and practically most of the east of the Urals are muslim hordes
There is no such thing as South East Russia, all of Siberia is pretty much hugging the southern border anyway. Caucasus where most of the Muslim population is is just South and West of the Urals. Muzzies don't really come to Siberia, it's probably the part of the country with the lowest number of migrants.
Sorry, I forgot it's not /int/
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>>64523022
>fpbp
It either stands for Praise Be Upon Him or else The Country's Best Yogurt
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>>64523022
It was the first post that could be called the best. The rest was equally middling.
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>>64523246
I run the numbers, in a prudent projection by 2050 about 30 to 35% of russians will be muslims (in 2022 they were 6,5%), and about to overtake orthodox as the principal religion. Funny thing is that even if they let go the Caucasus, there is no turning back: they alread spread everywhere.
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>>64523300
>There is no happy ending for russians no matter how you look at it and there is nobody they can blame for it.
The only escape is introspection and unfucking their deep spiritual desire to suffer misfortune, at which point they cease to be Russian and emigrate or reincarnate elsewhere.
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Why is the S-400 so useless?
>muh it's not meant to deal with drones
They are also using cruise missiles now.
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>>64524128
>Why is the S-400 so useless?
hard to shoot anything down thats not your own
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>>64524128
All the hardware on paper is good.
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>>64522724
I must admit defeat... putin's disgust and hatred for the common zigger exceeds even my own

I just want them all totally dead. Monkey wants to see them SUFFER
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>>64524130
Now now, Russian AA is perfectly capable of shooting down airliners that don't belong to them.
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>>64523298
Russian PMCs fell off.
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>>64524128
There is actually one video of s400 shooting into the sea.
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>>64522634
>Right through the engine block
Talk about an unlucky stray
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>>64523216
Even if you consider slavs to be white they are second class citizens (at best) compared to the churkas in Russia.
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>>64522581
>Novorossiysk
haha this is just like in that DCS world
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>>64523022
fpbp
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>>64522699

Now you see it, now you don't.
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>>64524128
>Why is the S-400 so useless?
No civilian airliners around for them to train on
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>easily in the top 3 of Russia's oil terminals
>2% of all oil globally(!) transits though it
>host to several S-300/400+Pantsir installations
>still slimed by Dollar Tree tomahawks

The icing on the cake though?
The fact the impact craters are so on-target also implies complete EW failure.
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>>64524433
no fucking way man, why would they put them so close together?
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>>64524784
It's alleged, or has been confirmed, that the S300/400 has extremely short connection links between the radar, command truck, and the launchers. That and the fact that Russia doesn't fucking train its armed forces until they're doing the yearly/quarterly exercises
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>>64524811
The concept probably includes connection cables in the hundreds of meters, its just that every segment of production and procurement has stolen 1/10th of the cable each
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>>64522581
How does this help the encircled piggers in Porkroast tho?
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>>64524943
Clearly does since it's still being fought over.
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>>64524943
How does this post change the fact that Chechens rule russia and russians are their slaves?
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>>64524973
>Whatabooot
Maybe the Ukrainian jews should start giving the rod to their golems so they might fight bit better.
I love the smell of pigger bacon in the morning.
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>>64524995
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please don't derail the thread
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>>64522581
another refinery or depot? how soon until russians freeze to death? remember that video they made of the british family eating their hamster to survive the winter? if it turns out russia suffers that fate i will laugh myself into a coma
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>>64525002
>Look at these photos from around early 2000s!
But let’s just ignore how the fuhrer Zelenski, the most aryan man to exist in the last 80 years is casually killing off the pigger population to make way for the new Khazaria.
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>>64525037
You appear to be upset. Are the rubels you were promised not being deposited into your account? Probably an exchange issue related to the exchange rate between rubels and rupies.
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>>64525052
I don’t give a fuck about rubles, Russia, India or whatever.
What I care about is that for (((some))) reason we have to waste our resources and fund these jewish Slav bowl deathmatches for zero gain.
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>>64522969
Chinese restaurant won’t deliver up there
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based neutral anon from texas-oblast
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>>64525075
Throwing some cold war surplus at a country poorer than Mexico to achieve what 40+ years of extreme military spending couldn't is hardly 'zero gain'
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>>64525075
You think the reason we're providing aid is because Zelenski is a jew and we'd happily let Russia do whatever to a country we gave security guarantees to if he wasn't?

You think that America demonstrating again that it's a reliable security partner is no gain? You think the diminishing of Russia conventional warefare threat to our allies is no gain?

You're either so stupid that I'm happy for you that you've learned to phonepost from your group home or you don't actually believe these things and you are just invested in the Manly Russia Resisting Globohomo Third Way Grift. Either literally and financially or in self image terms.
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>>64524604
>>2% of all oil globally(!) transits though it
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>>64525075
Russia is openly hostile to the US. Russia frequently threatens to nuke the US and/or US allies. Russia is close allies with countries like Iran and North Korea, which are also openly hostile to the US.

This war has almost completely depleted russia's stocks of military hardware.
This war has completely ruined the russian economy.
This war inflicted crippling damage to russian industrial and diplomatic capabilities.
This war has all but destroyed the russian petroleum industry, which was their main source of income and vital to keeping the country afloat.
This war has killed of seriously maimed at least a million russian males of fighting age.

If anything, sponsoring this was has offered jaw dropping returns on investment for the US and their NATO allies.
Claiming "zero gains" is an outright and deliberate lie.
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>>64525125
my life will improve when Russia runs dry of funding to agitate dumbshits like you
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>>64525111
Just with a small side effect pushing Russia and its sphere straight into Chinese arms.
Now China will become even more powerful. Glory to comrade Biden and Trump for their revolutionary work!
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>>64525125
>And how has your life improved because of that?

I now have a webm collection of Russian air defense getting destroyed after years of shills saying how good it was.
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>>64525086
I've toyed with the idea of neutralposting whenever the Russians get something to gloat about but I always decide against it because I'd rather not risk giving thinly veiled neutrallers any legitimacy.
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>>64525136
The guy you're talking to is a useful idiot that thinks he's being smart by being a contrarian.
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>>64524433
I'm still in some ways surprised how much of those garbage systems they still have left, they've done practically nothing for 4 years except continue to supply us with really pretty explosions. Theoretically they should be much better than they've been shown to do, but Russia lost so much of its integrated and networked AA process with the loss of its A-50s its just some drunks at a console at this point

>>64524604
Oh my, that's not buffing out and I don't think a couple of guys with a cement mixer are fixing it
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>>64524604
Given what we know its one of the two,
S400 is that shit or hohol tomahawks are just that good.
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>>64525145
>Just with a small side effect pushing Russia and its sphere straight into Chinese arms.
They were already on China's team and their sphere of influence is disintegrating.
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>>64525145
China isn't actually a threat to anyone, in a military sense.
Source; the last 70 years of Chinese non-aggression
No, defending the Vietcong in Vietnam doesn't count.
No, the Korean war ended 72 years ago.
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>>64525523
Mighty Puccia, on paper, had like 3500 AD systems of all types and ranges before this war began. Probably, only 2500-2750 were actually working or viable, with the actual number being less at any given time due to maintenance etc. They've lost around a bit less than half these in terms of claimed kills, with an average of 2-4 lost every few days. Even Mosque only has like 100 AD systems and something like 10-20 radars surrounding it now, and that's been nowhere near enough to protect them from being bombed. It's only going to go downhill from here and fast.
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>>64524973
The commissar is right though; the drunk is lucky to just get a light beating.
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>>64525125
>And how has your life improved because of that?
A world with fewer russians in it is a better world by default
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>>64525075
Russia shot down a plane that had four of my countrymen aboard, now they must all die.
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>>64525556
Radar's are sort of a crunch point as well with AA systems, we got told that they had some all singing, dancing and spot two F35's fucking at 300 miles radars being deployed to places like Crimea- Ukraine probably spent less than a million bucks to float their drone-boats offshore and blew up quite a few of their top end radars by launching FPV's at them.
Reason this is both crazy and important-
Those things had price tags of $100million, they were working I assume because they were spinning around and presumably doing radar things, course how much anyone paid, what it cost to build and what got stolen is completely up for anyone's guess! But if you're operating on a budget and in the hypothetical world someone actually paid for 100mil worth of radar, that's a whopping chunk of your military budget in somewhere like Russia to the extent it should be considered a state strategic asset.

You should bury that motherfucker behind massive layers of defense in depth
Everything from guys with AK's, SHORAD systems, S-300's and probably someone with binoculars.
Russia?
Nah, just park them in Crimea, it'll be fine and the boys have a nice view of the ocean... fucking kek
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>>64525111
>Russia frequently threatens to nuke the US and/or US allies.
Well yeah, nowadays US also threatens to start using nukes and threatens to invade US allies sooooo
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>>64525556
>AD systems of all types and ranges
Yeah that's a completely fucking useless statistic.
A goddamn igla is an AD system.
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>>64526322
>threatens to invade U.S allies
>nothing ever happened
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>>64526328
They invade all potential allies.
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>>64526328
See? US and Russia employ the exact same kind of empty threats.
US under trump admin is openly hostile to the US interests just as much as Russia.
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>>64526326
Stop trying to pretend to be retarded, you know exactly what I'm talking about you stupid fuck lmao
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>>64525092
>America demonstrating again that it's a reliable security partner
I mean uh, your current president is doing his damndest to put that in question.
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>>64526339
>0:05
I now remember the fastest man in Serbia.
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>>64522634
well its not like they have fuel to run the cars with the empty gas stations anyway. NAFO lost again
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>>64526428
>Month 3 of the 3 day refueling operation
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>>64524943
Pokrovsk was taken on the 15h as ordered by mighty monke. off to the gulags with you zigger for contradicting the Official Truth
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>>64525075
>we
there is no we pidorashka. There are europeans and americans. First are backing ukraine to keep you diseased cockroaches in a never ending hell while east and north europe arms to the teeth. The latter have drifted off to populist isolationist la la land and wont be returning to reality for a while now
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>>64525075
>I very much do not care about the subjects I am shilling in this very thread
>here, jews! look, I even used le funny parentheses! how do you do fellow anons?
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>>64525523
>with the loss of its A-50s
god damn. I almost forgot Spiderweb torched some losttech flying radar dishes too in addition to 1/3rd of vatnik bomber fleet in a single fucking day. Yet all you hear in western media is nervous ass kveching whenever vatniks infiltrate some babuskhas village and plant a flag for a drone shot. before running into cover as they are about to get droned themselves

Imagine if back in WW2 actually dangerous enemies like germans had this kind of a propaganda power over UK/US media. War in the west would have been over by 1941 with UK forcing Churchill to resign and US forcing UK to engage in "peace talks"
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>>64526479
Plus don't forget the Patriot sniping that took out two A-50's in the Azov sea area, along with their crews and operations staff.
Russia has massive gaps in really their only effective detection systems with AWACS planes being practically just about 3 functional planes, meaning you have probably at any one time, only one of those operational as the other two will be in refit and upgrade cycles. Making it worse, maybe 1 or 2 tops to cover the entire fucking Russian state.

I genuinely think modern folks are overstimulated and regard their own critical thinking abilities as being vastly superior than they actually are. Plenty of smart people out there but distracted by the firehose of shit, so they filter it out as background noise and then there's all the midwits who get absorbed in the sheer volume as 'proofs' because there's just so much shit floating around the internet and media.
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>>64523216
>Every time I see a video from rushitstan, it is always some muslim churka.
>Are polchuds lying to me about r*ssia being white?
What do you think? Sane people in russia were ass blasted about churka-fication by early 2000s, when mass waves of Tajik migrants started to be imported by moscow authorities to hire them as cleaners and such. In a few years the term of "moskvabad" became an established meme.
They've imported millions of them over the years. It's both an economical, political and foreign relation point for them:
- they need labor right here and now, since it's cheaper to hire a tajik than to invest in tools and such (e.g. 100 tajik street sweepers vs one with his street cleaning truck in germany... not to mention that they can skim of the wages, basically hire 150 tajiks on paper, just hire 100 irl, pocket the salaries of other 50);
- they need demographics to suppress the collapse, look at Ukraine vs Russia population during 1991 - 2014 (before they've annexed Crimea), the fall of in Ukraine isn't unique to Ukraine and is actually a normal thing in most non-muslim post-USSR countries, however Russia doesn't show that collapse, because they were silently importing millions upon millions of churkas to prop up the number;
- they have special relations with Central Asia ex-USSR countries, like Tajikistan and such, to import their "excessive problematic young" for the goals of propping up the internal stability of those countries, i.e. too much young males == islamist radicals and/or revolution, so that excessive male youth is imported into russia. No, I'm not joking. They don't even hide this, with RU officials proudly talking about this;
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>>64525527
>S400 is that shit or hohol tomahawks are just that good.
A bit of both
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>>64523216
Ruspidors officially lost any right they had left to call Western countries cucked shitholes when picrel happened.
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>>64526538
>- they have special relations with Central Asia ex-USSR countries, like Tajikistan and such, to import their "excessive problematic young" for the goals of propping up the internal stability of those countries, i.e. too much young males == islamist radicals and/or revolution, so that excessive male youth is imported into russia. No, I'm not joking. They don't even hide this, with RU officials proudly talking about this
OK now this I have to see. Links?
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>>64523246

most sober russian electrician
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>>64526628
I can't find any good sources in English, but you could try using Google Translate or something like this. Here's for example a publican from 2016 (fuckin' hell almost a decade ago) on the russian foreign affairs publication (which is basically a top of the line outlet of their establishment): https://globalaffairs.ru/articles/czentralnaya-aziya-svetskaya-gosudarstvennost-pered-vyzovom-radikalnogo-islama/ - Central Asia: Secular Statehood Faces the Challenge of Radical Islam

>Labor migration to Russia (which until recently accounted for up to 50% of Tajikistan’s GDP, 33% of Kyrgyzstan’s GDP, and 15% of Uzbekistan’s GDP) was one of the important valves (as in "blow off valves") preventing social explosion.
>An excess of young people;
>Lack of jobs;
>Migration to Russia = a deliberately designed "safety valve" against radicalization/explosion.

Also this https://rus.ozodi.org/a/31615122.html - an interview/commentary for Radio Ozodi, article "Labor migrants - heroes of our time" (December 18, 2021). In it, the former deputy minister of economy of Tajikistan directly describes migration as
>“…labor migration is, in fact, a kind of safety valve that ensures the maintenance of relative social stability in society.”
then later
>For the Tajik political elite, this is a mechanism for stabilizing social turbulence and the radicalization of society, while the Russian elite, in addition to economic benefits, sees this as a lever of political influence on Dushanbe.

But these are not the only examples. This can be also found in academic publications in russia, such as https://cyberleninka.ru/article/n/poyavlenie-i-razvitie-radikalnogo-islamistskogo-dvizheniya-v-tsentralnoy-azii-prichiny-vnutrennie-i-vneshnie-faktory-podpitki/viewer - from V. G. Dyachenko
>Labor migration to Russia was one of the important valves preventing social explosion.

So yeah, if you keep an eye out and don't have the language barrier it's pretty much an open secret.
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>>64523216
I had this video from Iraq a while ago in an alley and two partisans or whatever are firing on each other from a hot 50 yards tops, both behind cover, and the guy filming it from a balcony second floor is like robotic... "allahuaackbar.. allahuaackbar..." like a fucking ticking clock and then there is a blood spray and he goes "AWWWWWWW" for a second then right back to machine tempo allah snackbar.
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>>64526516
>Patriot sniping that took out two A-50's
Wasn't it an s200 with external AWACS/radar input?
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>>64526674
At least one of them was. A nigger rigged upgrade of S-200 is how they've got a pretty insane range for that shoot down.
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>>64524604
The truth is out there...
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>>64522581
>uh, what happens to all the AA rounds fired towards the city?
Explain to me how that is my problem. Blyat.
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>>64524973
most reasonable Chechen
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>>64526680
he can't keep getting away with it...
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>>64522714
That's hilarious.
I've seen a few "audiences" with the great leader and it usually goes
>mein monke, our sewage/electricity/roads/heating are fucked please help
Proceeded by monke talking shit to some local govenor and ordering him to fix shit immediately.
Obviously scripted as shit but effective propaganda for the average peasant.
Not sure what happened here.
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>>64526664
Thanks a bunch! I can read Russian, so no problem with that. I'll give them a read tonight.
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>>64523246
>and if you've ever unfortunately had anything to do with Russians, they spend about 90% of their time at work complaining about being there, not working and finding reasons to do even less than the average corpse.
>mfw I had to supervise a team made up half of Russians a few years back
Thank god we got rid of them. We are literally doing more with less now, they weren't just useless cunts, the actually held everyone else back as well.
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>>64526677
I don't exactly know, people have thrown that out there as something that could do it (myself included) but no concrete evidence. But I do suspect maybe they used the patriot's gear with some hilbilly beam-riding on its multi spectrum capable radar search functions or something to get it close enough that the attack radar on the S-200 can lock on. Fairly sure a boosted Patriot might have gotten one of them though or that's what people suspect they used.
There's a whole heap of sneaky shit that's going to be interesting to read if it ever comes out

>>64526686
It would be like herding cats, alcoholic, deliberately irresponsible and socially fucked up feral cats
Not that beating russians would do much to make them less retarded, but it'd make you feel better
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>>64523300
>and there is nobody they can blame for it
What do you mean this is obiously Britains fault. We must nuke them.
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>>64522969
Kebab shop with free WC is across the street
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>>64525145
They were already on the path of becoming Chinas bitch.
Problem being of course that despite the big talk about unlimited friendship the Chinese hate their guts and Russians are scared shitless of them.
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>>64526741
they seem to be very eager and proud opening their backdoor to the chang micropenis though
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>>64525002
btfo
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>>64526674
It was Schrodinger's Air Defense Cuckold
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>>64526752
Awful lot of rightful Goguryeo clay highlighted in red there Western Dwarf.
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>>64527169
Throughout this war, every time a Russian aircraft gets shot down it’s;
> “The Ukrainians didn’t shoot down the aircraft because they are a bunch of stupid Nazi faggots. It was actually one of our air defence units because Russia has the best air defence in the world.”
How does this save face for them! Can someone explain?
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>>64527666
>How does this save face for them! Can someone explain?
Sure thing, Satan.
The idea is that in the russian world view ukies are seen as "misguided fake ethnicity, fooled by austro-hugarians and/or NATO into thinking they are a separate from russia, just a peasant offshoot of russians fallen under bad influence" at best, to a "retarded borderline subhuman hillbilly peasant slaves".
The official policy was to always erode their sense of national identity, their culture, language and so on, paint that as something which doesn't exist and some of that is at best just a regional offshoot of the russian culture. Even at the height of the 'normalcy' of USSR (what passed for normalcy there), when officially multiculturalism was preached and ukies has a "separate" republic within the USSR, the official policy was on doing russification of everything, with ukie stuff being kept only for token position (e.g. "the dumb funny khokhol character" in a movie, and things like that), while socially even using the language was painted as low status. Fun fact: a ton of people of ukie descent in russia (due to migration policies in czarist and soviet times) literally would change their names and family names to mask their ukrainian roots, because it was imposed as being something shameful.
The reality on the ground doesn't matter. Ukies being a cornerstone of soviet industry? Pfff. Ukies literally building the soviet space program? Never happened. Ukies pulling the biggest burden during from WW2 in USSR? Nah-uh, they be nazis n' shit. None of that happened or matters. The russian culture believes are based on cornerstone myths and points (e.g. "russia never started wars", "the west has always tried to conquer us", "we solo'd Germany in WW2" and so on), reality isn't a factor there.
Thus, getting fuck up by ukies in the russian worldview is extremely shameful, that's why they like to say that they're fighting the whole of NATO. Losing to incompetence is less shameful.
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>>64527714
The more you read about ziggerstan culture and history and accomplishments, the more you realize how much of it is fake and stolen. From day one. Literally We Wuz ROWERS n sheeeeit.
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>>64527602
>t.mad zigzog
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>>64526752
China getting land from Russia is something that will never happen if China is serious about conquering Taiwan
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>>64527780
Why? Chinks already started inching forward on their maps and replacing the drained populace with their own "entrepanuers". Russia (Timmy) won't do shit.
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>>64527811
Russia has nukes

and TIGERS
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>>64527780
big if there. china would like taiwan, but has not staked themselves on it just yet.
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>>64527820
... as do the chinese, yes. Some chinese nukes might actually work maybe
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>>64526741
Why didn't Russia just side with the West? They could have had American tripwire forces along the Chinese border.
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>>64527837
ok but what about TIGERS?
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>>64527844
Russia wants its empire back, and the empire was built around opposing the West.
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>>64527845
Pretty sure china also has tigers, thoughbeit smol
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>>64527859
BIG russian TIGERS crush tiny chinese "tigers"
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>>64527850
They know they're never getting that empire back though.
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>>64527859
>thoughbeit smol
well they are asians, asians have small
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>>64527850
>Russia wants its empire back
Yes and some because they have an imperialist and nationalistic mindset / culture and it doesn’t matter what political system they have, be it Tsardom, Imperialism, Communism or Federalism they believe that they are the “Third Rome” and have a special destiny.

>the empire was built around opposing the West
No, it was built around clonal expansion.
The opposing the West bullshit is them just pretending to be a victim and crying about not being able to expand to the West of them easily over the century’s because of European Kingdoms / Powers and in the South because of the British Empire (which they are still mega butthurt about).
They where able to expand East easily because basically there just a bunch of tribes there and they was quite happy to work with the “Evil Western Clonal Powers” in carving up and takeing a chunk out of China.
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>>64528378
The red part around Vladivostok isn't Russian and a significant portion isn't Chinese either.
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>>64523293
>KYYYOOOOOOOOOO!
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>>64528378
>vatnik empire keeps peeling off layers like an onion as it disintegrates
>Currently we are at the mostly redish parts gone
>changs snatching Vladivostok and Sakhalin back next confirmed
>together with north caucasus churkastans leaving when Muscovia can't pay them tribute anymore
>after that rest of Siberia
>then inner layers like Tatarstan (Kazan)
huh. Vlad the Imploder posters have been actually pretty accurate of the potential timeline. Muscovia certainly can't reclaim the red layers back as they are already stalemated at 18% of Ukraine for four years. While central asians and Caucasus are doing everything to get away from them
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>>64528472
why didn't nippons ever fully claim Sakhalin as part of their core islands. Its pretty much a continuation of the underwater mountain chain they are sitting on alongside Kurils
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>>64527811
>>64527830
they are opportunistic vultures by nature circling a potential carcass. Since their soviet modeled military is an unknown quantity, likely as shit as vatniks is, they wont move in for the kill unless its 100% certain. Taiwan is something that is stable domestically with no inclination of joining them out of their free will. So the only solution for mainland is to force them in by gun point. They can't stand Taiwans existence either much less they could Hong Kong, since they represent successful separatism from the imperial center in Beijing. An existential threat to the idea of empire

Same logic governs Muscovia
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>I don't care about either side but please stop laughing at russia
>It's a Slav slap fight
>Why are we wasting money in it
Ah, it's that faggot zigger again. Wonder what amerioblast he claims to be from today
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>>64527859
fake news. they castrated them all as their genitals were cure for impotence according to traditional chinese medicine (tm)
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>>64528706
IIRC they tried to get it during the peace negotiations for the Russo-Japanese War. Blame Teddy Roosevelt for saving the Russians' asses there.

>>64528733
>their soviet modeled military
The PLA has never followed the soviet model, nor was ever interested in trying.
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>>64529611
They should have, i think Taiwan should still be one of the home islands of Japan.
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>>64529611
>Blame Teddy Roosevelt for saving the Russians' asses there.
americans were a mistake
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>>64522618
lmao ziggers are so easy to spot
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>>64528733
>>64528378
China, at the start of the war, played both sides. It said it wouldn't have to honour its nuclear umbrella treaty with Ukraine 'under certain circumstances' but it also said that Russia's treaty regarding Vladivostok was also invalid. China has, for decades, sent many Chinese into Vladivostok to work and does exactly what Russia does
>send your guys in to work
>people are happy
>get a large minority (10%-15% of population)
>start complaining about persecution
>agititate
>eventually have to send in troops to 'protect your citizens and people'
>start war
>send in waves of people to win the war (usually non-ethnics from territories you've done this before with, see all of Russia's wars)
>take the land
>do this again with new border regions
>rinse and repeat as you expand
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>>64529985
China is in a rare win-win position no matter what happens
>if Vatnikstan wins in Ukraine, Monke gets his wet USSR fuelled fantasies and they have a rabid attack dog to hound Europe with and establish a new world order.
>if Vatnikstan is stalemated in Ukraine, Monke and his gang will sell out puccia, turning it into vassal state of China and then will drain every ounce of wealth that left out of them.
>if Vatnikstan loses in Ukraine, China will overthrow and off Monke and his gang, turn Vatnikstan into a client state of China and in the chaos take back their historic lands as well as start carving out pieces of Siberia for themselves.

What ever the outcome China will continue extracting a decent profit from Vatniks selling them cheap parts at a high mark up. Now add in Vatniks need to import refined fuel from them at a premium they are practically laughing their asses off.
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>>64525075

> we have to waste our resources
> we
> our

Haha no
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>>64526752
Ryazan Oblast should be returned to Kiev.
Karafuto is rightful Yamato clay.
Königsberg always belonged to Germania.

Chang can get a sliver too.
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>>64531468
>Königsberg always belonged to Germania.
I mean...no. It belonged to Baltic and Finnic pagans.
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>>64531552
I think you've got it mixed up with pidorsburg, that's the general area where the baltic-finnic tribes used to hang around
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>>64532284
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Prussians
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>>64522581
>uh, what happens to all the AA rounds fired towards the city?
fuck dem vatnigs
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>>64522581
>what happens to all the AA rounds fired towards the city?
WW1-tier indirect gunfire shit.
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>>64522581
"Not my problem"
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>>64528706
sakhalin had almost 750k people at the fall of the ussr, even now it's still around like 450kish. I think the japanese viewed that as too large a population of non japanese for them to reasonably absorb.
on the other hand there's less than 20k people in all the kuril islands (only 8 are inhabited anyway) and the japanese only really want the southern ones
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>>64526538
It's kinda hilarious when vatniks seethe about churkas, but like with many things can't point out why they are a problem because eternal buckbroken serfdom
>"reee we hate churkas so much, they're everywhere and they're committing crimes and such"
>"oh golly gee, that's bad. Why is there so many of them in such numbers?"
>radio silence or copium excuses and deflection
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>>64533459
lol
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>>64522581
Looks like they're firing over water to me.
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>>64535253
right into their own city lol
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>>64538268
They have a city on the water in the Black Sea? That's crazy.
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>>64533580
They were smart because having a large russian minority while sharing a border with them is always a huge problem and a net negative in every possible way. You genocide them or simply don't take the land.
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>>64522634
Damn I never realized how big the 14.5mm bullet is.
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>>64522581
Not America's problem.
>>64522658
Miku America Great Again
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>>64533641
Tbh it's the same with Europeans, they never admit that it's their democratically elected government responsible for brown infestation
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>>64533580
Japan would probably follow a policy like the Baltics: learn the language of gtfo.
swamp speak is bad but moonrunes are worse so I wouldn't pin my hopes on to many of them staying.
Probably the younger ones that can still learn.
China would probably do the same, learn mandarin become a good little ethnic minority that doesn't pose a problem for the CCP and you'll get one of your guys to wear a funny little "national" costume to their big yearly event
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>>64539847
no we know that all to well and that's why the far-right is on the rise everywhere in Europe.
russians on the other hand daren't even suggest that tzar might be wrong
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>>64523216
4chan are infested with anti-west seething mudslimes
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>>64539968
No
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>>64526664
what do they have to radicalize against, as moslems
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>>64539887
>China would probably do the same, learn mandarin become a good little ethnic minority that doesn't pose a problem for the CCP and you'll get one of your guys to wear a funny little "national" costume to their big yearly event
There are Russian villages full of native Mandarin speakers from the time of the Sino-Soviet border adjustments that left a few villages on the "wrong" side of the fence.
Chinese told them they could move but they stayed so they had to learn Mandarin.

>>64528706
Because they were yellow. Simple as that.
The way international community kept fucking them over in favor of white nations is what fueled their drift into grorious Nippon forded 10000 times phase.
Perfectly seen in their sabres.
Obviously these guys carried around katanas when Perry visited.
Meiji army created factories for making western sabres as a massive point of pride and culture. Katanas were mere scrap metal and a symbol of backwardness.
However, as time went on and they realised that even the most destitute whites (Russkies) are always going to stand above even the most civilised of the coloreds, they shifted gears.
Those same factories changed the design and while still being normal mass-produced sabres, they now had them look like katanas. And that's the katanas you'd see in the banzai charges of WW2 as everyone who could threw away their western sabre for grorious Nippon (imported and factory-made) steel.
Sakhalin was one of those "fuck you" moments as Japan gaining ground against the Chinks or Koreans was perfectly fine. But letting them gain any land against a white nation, even a shithole like Russia, was as impossible as showing your southern US parents of 1880 your pitch-black girlfriend from France.
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>>64539827
It's a hecking big chonker, it's why you get arguments that it should be considered a honorary autocannon. Unfortunately unlike the .50 it has never seen much modern ammo developed for it otherwise it would see much more use.
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>>64540478
>an honorary autocannon
I wouldn't want to be in downtown Sebastapol during a ukie drone raid and have a 14.5mm round hit me at terminal velocity but they don't seem to be large enough for complex fuzes so I'm not sure they can be considered shells, even if they do come HE varieties.
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>>64541091
I'm sure you'd here a hell of a racket first and know to go indoors. Maybe the Lada on the street gets a hole in it
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>>64541098
>I'm sure you'd here a hell of a racket first and know to go indoors
We have curfew, so they tell us not to stand by windows instead.
I did take cover once when after a close intercept, I heard hard hail rain down around roofs on the block.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=MMrkFYu622s
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>>64522581
I don't think they care, lad.
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>>64538470
they call them ports
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>>64541091
To be fair, you can only fit pretty simple fuses in 20mm.



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