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Russia is reportedly running low on North Korean Shells

https://x.com/Worldwar_3_/status/1989913821411262846

Source is Ukrainian Intelligence

before someone says

>Ukrainian intelligence

Let me remind you that Ukrainian intelligence successfully assassinated Dugin's daughter!
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>>64527773

https://x.com/TheDeadDistrict/status/1989653933615378877
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>>64527773
>Let me remind you that Ukrainian intelligence successfully assassinated Dugin's daughter!
Dugin was the target though
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Not shit. Those people saying shit like "DPRK is outproducing NATO" were delusional. DPRK just sold their old stockpile of shit for top dollar to desperate russian retards. But even their stockpile has limits. Simple as.
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Norktard BTFO
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>>64527785
True, but it's funnier this way.
Let him suffer and see the final implosion of vatnikstan, the end of his bloodline, and everything he ever held dear
*then* kill him (assuming he doesn't do it himself first).
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>>64527773
I will of course require additional sources as this contradicts what Budanov has been saying. I am somewhat skeptical of a channel whose byline is:

>"Welcome to our channel, your go-to source for breaking news and UFO discoveries. Stay updated on the latest global events. #BREAKINGNEWS #ALIENS #WORLDWAR3
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>>64527871
>>64527773
And.......Half their posts are AI fakes or even parody accounts. Look, i hate Russia as much as anyone or even more but please do better with the disinfo, there are better ways. Substandard lies just make you look silly.

Even if it is actually true using a bad source will complicate your narrative. Get it together guys.
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>>64527903
>Substandard lies just make you look silly
>A clown who sucks yellow dick all day every day says this
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>not even with the norkshell cheat code they could end this war
Norktard, those retards wasted the shells
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>>64527792
Retards have been conflating "production" and "supply" since 2022. After 2023 about half the shells of the russian side were imported from NK. Mostly from old stockpiles because it's impossible to know the production numbers from anything in NK.
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>>64527917
I freely admit that OCCASIONALLY the DPRK may slightly exaggerate things. However OP's source is one step away from 'Bigfoot is real and tried to eat my ass, an exclusive from the Daily Mail'

>>64527951
As i have said many times; Russia doesn't deserve their support.
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>>64527965
OPs source is as reliable as the norks
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>>64527773
>ukraine says russia is losing

fascinating
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>>64527773
fyi
16.11.2025
Tanks — 11353 (+3)
Armored fighting vehicle — 23591 (+3)
Artillery systems — 34469 (+26)
MLRS — 1543 (+2)
Anti-aircraft warfare — 1244
Planes — 428
Helicopters — 347
UAV — 81286 (+409)
Cruise missiles — 3940
Ships (boats) — 28
Submarines — 1
Cars and cisterns — 67464 (+68)
Special equipment — 4000 (+2)
Military personnel — aprx. 1158260 people (+860)
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>>64527965
>Norktard
Oh fuck off
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>>64527972
Less. We have actual articles from UA confirming new Nork shell and missile production being used, especially missiles.

>>64527976
You forgot:
Syria-1
Iran-0.5

>>64527982
I see my unmatched reputation for insightful, unbiased and sober opinion having has caused some controversy.
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>>64527989
No, not less
Not a single piece of information NK has ever put out to the public sphere, or domestic for that matter can be considered reliable
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>>64527989
0.5 iran? Care to explain
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>>64527994
At least half of what they say gets confirmed as true, Go through the first couple dozen posts for OP's source and compare it with the front page of KCNA.

>>64527997
Iran was supplying Russia with a large number of drones before Israel/USA turned the majority of their arms industry into rubble. It was on the news and everything.
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>>64528006
>Not a single piece of information NK has ever put out to the public sphere, or domestic for that matter can be considered reliable
Sorry I don't care what bug people or their self admitted trolls say
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>>64528006
Do you think the lack of water is going to do the other .5 of the lords work?
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>>64527965
>Russia doesn't deserve their support
>support
Nothing in this world is free bud.
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>>64527773
>Pajeet engagement farmer on X says thing
>lets talk about it
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>>64527773
>120mm mortar rounds coming through!
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>>64528006
>It was on the news and everything.
Honestly i haven't used the internet or watched tv for nearly 6 months, i did a little soul searching and just disconnected from the world it felt wired to say the least
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>>64528043
A drought might push the regime over the edge. Some discrete Israeli/US pressure may also be exerted.
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>>64527965
>I freely admit that OCCASIONALLY the DPRK may slightly exaggerate things
lol
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>>64528043
I hope so.
>>64528049
It's pretty transactional to be fair.
>>64528077
Fair enough. If you google it you will find out that Israel and Iran had a minor disagreement recently.
>>64528110
I hate to say it but i think they are being overly optimistic about how quickly they will become fuel independent once they begin work on the new coal gasification plant.

Then again everyone mocked their timetable for righting that ship: 'lol what are they going to do get a bunch of ropes and just pick it up?'

>>64528162
This has to be a joke right? Russians are such clowns i can't tell anymore.
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>>64527997
ok sure their proxies in Palestine, Lebanon, and Syria got acked!, sure they wasted most of their missile stockpiles and got dogwalked by Israel, but they still have a couple days worth of drinking water left in Tehran, that's gotta count for at least 0.5 points right?
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>>64528168
Norktard I just happen to be a huge goy who is in love with Negev, israeli arms and wars against the zutted and kabbalah, mostly due Date A Live turning it into waifu allegory and great OST, from one boo to another boo, how you deal with the ostracism of liking a country a lot of people hate?
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>>64528162
>HIMARS saved by defective detonator
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>>64528162
For all the blind newfags, that is not a Himars.
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>>64527965
>I freely admit that OCCASIONALLY the DPRK may slightly exaggerate things
We're calibrated to your exaggeration levels Norktard. I'll take your exaggeration and known quantity over the hella high grades of copium that Zigger and Chink shills shovel onto /k/.
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>>64528225
You're asking the wrong person. We don't ostracize Norktard for liking a country a lot of people hate, we ostracize him for being an obnoxious fanboy.
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>>64528502
I myself quite enjoy norktards posts
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>>64528225
What this guy said:
>>64528502
Once folks figure out my admittedly unusual positions no one really has much problem with it, it's my personality and occasional obnoxiousness that some people don't like.
>>64528181
That's the half that is left but Iran will not be sending Russia significant numbers of drones any time soon hence they are outsourcing to the Norks for that. Funny enough it might get delayed because the Norks don't want to rip off Iran, they need to work out a licensing deal. They even passed what looks suspiciously like a copyright law recently.

>>64528245
>>64528262
HIMARs has asymmetric front windows, that is just a cargo truck. Also HIMARs is the missile not the truck.

>>64528275
Shhh! *Secret* It's how i can tell someone is a newfag ESL shill. Also of course as someone who might get data scraped by them and intends to visit someday i would never do anything to offend potential future hosts. The 370mm recoilless gun is in an outdoor display and i would get mad cred if i could get a selfie with it someday.

>>64528536
Well thank you, i know i can be annoying and obsessive so i at least try to be polite and entertaining. That reminds me i need to figure out how to make a thread about the things i saw in a dream that turned out to be real without sounding too crazy.
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Kim Jong Un! Kim Yo Jong! WHERE IS THE FUCKING AMMO!
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>>64527773
What's the funniest thing the Norks could extort them on?
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>>64528580
T-34s
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>>64528580
For historical irony points? Fertilizer and other agricultural inputs.
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>>64528580
Using the Yakuza/Zainichi to steal high end Japanese electronics components.

Maybe forcing Russia to use their refineries for specialist stuff like lubricating grease and hydraulic fluid. Probably produced with Russian oil sold at a discount to China then sold at a massive mark up to the DPRK with Russia footing every bit of the bill.

>>64528599
*ahem*
Nork beer, various fruit products and spring water are already being sold in the Russian Far East.

They aren't selling stuff like fertilizer since not only do the Norks need it themselves they need it for munitions production.

Historical irony is the current situation where Russia collapses militarily without them and that the DPRK not only has more tanks than them but makes more as well.

I would like to remind everyone that Russia needed North Korean troops to expel an invasion in Kursk and it only worked because Russia got out of their way and allowed them to operate independently.
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>>64528550
>annoying and obsessive
Yes. Yes you can.
>also builds emergency outposts for strangers, doses the local wildlife with permethrin to reduce the suffering from ticks it will experience, and is happy to share his unique autism with anyone who asks
The above is true.
>probably receives or has received a paycheck from either the DoD or CIA due to (and likely the cause of) his weaponised autism.
I think you do.

>overly optimistic about the gassification plant vs the ship
One can in fact be solved simply by throwing more peasants at it as we found out. Don't think they can do that with specialized refining equipment, but once they have it setup they'll probably have another one under construction within two years.
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>>64528650
Odds on them just making a giant mobik cube composting biomethane facility instead?

...

coйлeнт Зeлeнcкий
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>>64528650
>>probably receives or has received a paycheck from either the DoD or CIA due to (and likely the cause of) his weaponised autism.
Technically correct, i get a small VA check every month as i blew out my knee twice while i was in the army. Also i have documented Sarin exposure (CDTF at Ft innawoods ) and a Agent Orange exposed dad.

>One can in fact be solved simply by throwing more peasants at it as we found out. Don't think they can do that with specialized refining equipment, but once they have it setup they'll probably have another one under construction within two years.

I am honestly shocked that they haven't been working on it 24/7 for half a century. They have massive amounts of coal. Reading between the lines and taking into account other recent DPRK/Russia projects i think Russia gave them everything they know about coal gasification going back to stuff they got from Germany after WW2.

Wait til they remember that in the 1970-80's that the USSR did some small scale exploratory drilling in their Yellow Seas coastal waters and found gas and oil but didn't think it worth exploring further because the USSR was worried about them becoming energy independent. The excuse was that it wouldn't be economical to exploit and their Soviet friends would keep helping them out. That last part didn't work out.

Given the off shore natural gas fields the RoK recently found come the new year i suspect Russia will be handing over some 'technical cooperation' as well as everything they have on atomic fracking. Atomic fracking works out really well with several North Korea goals.

>2030: The DPRK joins OPEC

>>64528699
Don't be silly, mobniks have diseases, smell bad and it wouldn't be cost effective given the rapid pace of rural development via the 20x10 project.
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>>64528699
Human flesh doesn't off gas methane nearly as efficiently as manure, and the manure is way better for fertilizer after it finishes off gassing. They'll just round up mobiks and make them shit in pits for the rest of their lives.
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>>64528633
I'm still waiting for NK to convince Russia to let it develop their tiny strip of border to facilitate rail and motor transport to cut off China, then a few years later using it to springboard a combined land and amphibious invasion of Primorsky Krai.
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>>64527976
>Cars and cisterns
>cisterns
I know this is some translation oddities but what the hell does it mean?
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>>64528765
That's a translation error. "Циcтepнa" means "liquid container", mostly used to denote fuel trucks.
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>>64528722
You might find these interesting.
https://www.wilsoncenter.org/sites/default/files/media/documents/publication/Zhang_Hai_Qi.pdf (yellow sea)
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0264817220305146 (yellow sea)
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2096519223014982 (sea of japan)
The DPRK is probably near more offshore reserves than they think, but I'm not a petroleum engineer or geologist so I only understand a little of what these papers are talking about.
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>>64528722
>Given the off shore natural gas fields the RoK recently found come the new year i suspect Russia will be handing over some 'technical cooperation' as well as everything they have on atomic fracking. Atomic fracking works out really well with several North Korea goals.

I just realized i have no idea how shallow depth atomic fracking would work under a sea bed with alot of mud. if you didn't get it deep enough under the rock layer and you just set of a undersea gas pocket under a layer of shale you may have accidently done something 'not good' (i.e Atlantis or Lemuria) so if anyone here is knowledgably about shallow water fracking (or if any has done it underwater or with atomics) it would be helpful if you could point me in the direction of some technical research.

>>64528737
Corpses suck at methane production, i know a guy who feeds Coyotes that he shoots/traps to his hogs because they process them into shit/compost far better than the bodies do. Any sort of flesh sucks at methane production, the omnivore digestion process and it's secondary by products are far more efficient.

>>64528758
The bridge is pretty much done, it's only two rails and a truck/foot bridge. The big problem is that all the main DPRK rails are standard rail gauge and Russia's are not because of course they have a Russia only rail size. Additionally all of the DPRKs light and medium rail lines are electrified and from Vladivostok to Moscow is not.

So the DPRK can't use it's engines and rolling stock because unlike the DPRK in the Russian Far East to Moscow line the USSR never reached the level of France in 1900, Imperial Japan in 1942 or the modern DPRK.

>>64528787
Yes, that is exactly what i was looking for, thank you friend. I shall bookmark and download them at once.
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>>64528780
Ah I suspected the translation error but I'd have never considered fuel trucks, thx.
Always fascinating how things are grouped in these.
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>>64528790
>>64528787
This is recycled Soviet research from what i already know from 30 years ago but it is good confirmation. Hopefully the citations are someone i recognize. Thank you.
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>>64528765
>>64528780
cistern is one way to call a fuel truck in vatnik and other eastern slav languages. References the big fuel tank used to carry the fuel
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>>64528790
>NK secretly stockpiles Russian gauge rolling stock while pressing for road development as it develops an extensive amphibious landing fleet and doctrine that is totally going to be used to invade SK one day
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>>64528790
>Corpses suck at methane production, i know a guy who feeds Coyotes that he shoots/traps to his hogs because they process them into shit/compost far better than the bodies do. Any sort of flesh sucks at methane production, the omnivore digestion process and it's secondary by products are far more efficient.
soooo feed the cumniks to the little oinking piggies that then process them into efficient methane producers?
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>>64528812
they would have more luck using the fishing boats relabeled as amphib landing fleet to assault vladivostok then they would trying to attack Korea. Latter would decimate it with its air superiority alone
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>>64528812
>>64528821
There is a dual rail wheel that the rolling stock that the PRC/DPRK (and some eastern European nations) uses in trade with Russia that can be used but it is rare and not generally with it. The big problem is that the trans Siberian rail system isn't electrified and the parts that are aren't reliable. Yes, the DPRK's big problem with using their trains in Russia is Russia doesn't have enough electricity.

>>64528817
Well yeah but besides feeding omnivore vermin like rodents, Coyotes and Russians to hogs and recycling their shit it isn't cost effective. Russians are so useless their corpses aren't worth anything even as fertilizer to the Norks.
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>>64528843
Just though i'd mention this: I have a degree in Sustainable Agriculture from a pretty good US East Coast University so i feel my Russian corpse composting opinions carry some weight.
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>>64527871
I missed you norktard
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>>64528857
Did i ever leave?
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>>64528817
No, that's how your pigs get STDs.
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>>64528843

It is illegal for outsiders to have sexual relations with North Koreans, that is enforced via abortions, sterilization and other more drastic measures beside their tiny population of westerners/white people which is roughly 300-450 people, mostly defectors and the long term families of deep cover spies.

You, me and everyone else is not getting a North Korean GF. It isn't ever going to happen, it is a false fantasy.
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>>64528550
>They even passed what looks suspiciously like a copyright law recently.

This is the most interesting fact in this entire thread and no one paid attention to it.
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>>64528550
>Also HIMARs is the missile not the truck.
GMLRS, and ATACMS are the missiles you uneducated malnourished attention whore.
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>>64528929
>illegal
>in kim jong fats kingdom
lol. Yeah whatever. Its illegal to own and watch K-dramas too yet the black market is flushed with them as illegal chinese DVD players flood the peasant homes. While enforcers look away as they are bribed. Meanwhile state is engaged in industrial scale fentanyl production which they then ship via "diplomatic post" to embassies for distribution in foreign markets. One of the many ways the tyrant accumulates hard currency

legality in these feudal mafia states only means whatever dirt the ruling aristocracy can have on a subject in case they want to purge them.

As for your ilk you should be tied up and thrown across the DMZ so you can get a little taste of the paradise you preach about. Remember to salute kim jong fats portrait as they connect car batteries to your balls in the concentration camps
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>>64527976
>860
casualties been dropping off a lot lately. Normally i'd say it's due to the weather, but there's still a decent amount of movement happening on the front so it's probably not that.
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>>64527960
Same retards don't even know russia has a single production facility for MBTs and another facility for IFVs. That's literally it, and they cook their numbers all the time (remember when they were boasting about producing 200 T90Ms per year? yeah, that never happened). All the other AFV facilities are basically repair shops.

Given how much the russkies lie and puff themselves up, I wouldn't be surprised if they were being outproduced by Sweden alone at this point. Seriously doubt the ammo situation is any different.

I mean shit, judging by the number of videos of Ukrainian MBTs firing with impunity at hapless russian infantry, they seem to be mostly out of RPGs since late 2023. Also, when was the last time you've seen a russian MG team in a drone video? It's just poor faggots with Temu airsoft gear, AKs and 3-4 magazines every single time.

Meanwhile, more and more Ukies are running domestic ARs and wearing Western ballistics while driving MRAPs, Marders, and CV90s.

Russians are literally losing the attrition war and it's beautiful to see all their simps short-circuit because of that. Fucking retards think cheap-ass drones that are becoming prevalent even among thirdie militias will outweight falling behind this much on basic military hardware, lmao.
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>>64527773
south korea now has a chance
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>>64529015
I saw something in a dream a year ago, i was standing on the review stand in Pyongyang. What did i see? A M270 with both HIMARS and ATCMs loaded on it. What did i see when i saw the parade when it actually happened? This image:
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>>64529098
>GMLRS, and ATACMS
Nork equivalents loaded both at once in case it wasn't obvious.
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They are trying to shell Myrnohrad flat. It was this style of warfare their much touted 'General Armageddon' used to burn through their stockpile of soviet era heavy artillery munitions and barrels.

All this shit about North Korea including spam from a fool. If North Korea gets sucked further into this war (it already is) all that will happen is its limited reserves of heavy equipment will get obliterated as well (25-30% of their artillery already has been).

As regards North Koreas future, prior to the war it was back experiencing famine. With Putin gone and Russia bankrupt it is effectively the end of the regimes last lifeline, Putin has been covertly supporting North Korea for decades and North Korea has been e.g supplying gulag slaves for Russian logging for cash for 20 years.

North Korea has no future. Kim is creating idea conditions for its perpetual pariah state by fucking around in Ukraine and ensuring that Ukraine as an EU member will leave North Korea even more a target for more rigid and severe economic and other measures.

As regards nonsense like this
>>64529098
Tubes on a lorry are not what makes HIMARs and ATCMs so effective, its the very complex munitions themselves which North Korea has no capacity to produce at volume.

Every single artillery tube, shell or mortar sent by North Korea to Putin for use in Ukraine weakens and reduced its ridiculous hoard of soviet era weapons gifted to it by communist China and Russia. The new era of warfare is technological and driven by advanced components it has no capacity to produce.

Its nuclear arsenal has only made it a legitimate nuclear target.

It can go quietly or it can go with a bang but North Korea is as over as Putin.

As regards Putin, he is now on a hard clock both in terms of bankrupcy, remaining military material and attrrition to Russian fossil fuel industries, refining and electrical production. .

It is over. Ukraine has won.
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North Korea is just a cheap labour Chinese proxy state for supplying Russia.
They will be gifted more resources and chips for making drones to send to Russia so China can pretend it's only sending dual use stuff to Russia.
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>>64529457
I was about to type out a detailed response refuting almost every point you just made but then i realized you weren't a Russian or Ukrainian shill but a Chinese one and thus dumber than the two combined. When this thread gets archived or deleted the half dozen people who read it will hate you and China more than they hate me and the DPRK.

Enjoy.
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>>64529474
Norktard please you know it's true. Also I'm only the second post. If Norks are making drones they're doing it with Chink chips, there's basically no doubt there.
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Ukraine can keep trading slivers of land for remaining Russian capability indefnitely until there are none left while increasing its own capabilities and reducing Russia strategically even further.It has EU support

Followers of this war will remmeber that when Ukraine was invaded the vast majority of opinion saw this decsending into occupation by Russia after a year and a grinding guerrilla conflict,

No one ever though Rusisa would grind up it's vast 'arsenal of evil'. Yet it has and there is overwhelming evidence supporting this. No one thought Putin would exhaust his war chest of cash reserves yet he has.

How do you defend what is an extremly long frontline with no artillery, MLRS, CAS, money, logistics or mechanised reserves. The answer is simple, you can't. All UKraine has to do is let Russia keep making the same mistake, grinding impossible to replace Russian military capacity down until it is gone and the Ukraine can do what it likes to Russia at will.

Look for a bookies that will give you long odds on Crimea being either handed over or retaken by Ukraine within 3 years (to protect your bet against pauses and stalls).

North Korea? It has five to ten years left, maybe a lot less.

Nothing happens until it does and the collapse of Putin and indeed subsequently North Korea will be a 'never saw that coming' moment as it was with the USSR. Yet both are a locked in certainty as this point. The two most disasterously lead nations on earth, North Korean claims to anything become a joke when faced with pic related, taken in 2022. Russian industry and manufacturing is massively disrupted by strikes against power infrastructure, 25% of Russias thermal and electrical electricity production is gone. North Korea has NO electrical infrastructure beyond Pongyang. The very sick and mentally unwell shill on this board will naturally deny the famines North Korea experienced recently, deny the fact that North Korea substantially has no electrification etc
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>>64529484

Zero tolerance for the PRC. I hate Russia but they are just clients of convenience, i support Ukraine as they help kill Russians and a world without Russians is a better world so the more dead the better.

An even better world is the extinction of the PRC, i will not tolerate pro PRC propaganda on /k/. Ban me if you wish but in the long term the PRC is more of a threat to humanity than Russia, i'm just targeting Russia at the moment as they are a easier target. Fuck off Xi.

>>64529487
You too.
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>>64529484
The idea that a nation that has utterly failed to even impment elecrtrification, an early 20th century technological advance in the 21st century is a testament to the inepitude and failure of a regime that has demonstrated zero ability to even reliably feed it's own population, yet now it is supposed to be according to the derranged shill on this board a leader in advanced weapons production? Yeah. Even China as it stands, stands so due to 35 years of massive foreign direct investment from the USA and EU, there is no Chinese economic 'miracle' outside of that. It cannot now nor never has been able to match advanced chip production or other advanced technolgies produced in the EU or USA (see its purchases of 15 s300 batteries in 2010 from Russia). For a decade that foreign direct investment has been reducing, substantially initially down to the degree of fraudulent activity in China regarding those investments and escalating due to COVID highlighting it as a supply chain risk and disaster area, further escalating due to its histories biggest ever property bubble implosion and further escalating due to its belligerent posturing and subsequent collapse in manufacturing oder books and tariffs.

If China is a the new sick man of asia, Russia is the dying man, North Korea is simply a rotting corpse. The simple fact is that the world and China North Korea and Russia has a chance of being a vastly better place with Putin, the Kims and the CCP gone. Certainly we are entering a period of unparalled prosperity in quality fo life in places like the USA, EU, South Korea, Japan, Canada etc.

The Kim regime in North Korea with all it's attendent horrors will have its place in the history books along side other particularly barberous, savage, inhumane and squalid eras and places, that is it's sole legacy and future.

The onus is on the US authorities to deal with this North Korean agent provocateur who has been actively trying to get other /k/ anons to meet it here.
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>>64529474
There is no detailed response from the likes of you to me except a world of hurt. Do not fuck with us.
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>>64529553
It's fascinating that the PRC or whoever would target /k/ or even me for this sort of nonsense. Besides the fact that at most a dozen people are going to read this thread every person who regularly uses this forum is not only going to ignore the shilling and blatant propaganda they will become actively hostile to those making it. Not only is it counter productive in that it makes people hate you it immunizes them to future propaganda attempts. Targeting me is a especially dumb idea.

I have spent the majority of my adult life memorizing the collected works of Kim Il Sung and immersing myself in North Korean propaganda, do you really think that there is any way that i could be brainwashed in a way that i haven't already deliberately done to myself with far more skill than you could imagine you fucking idiots?

Everyone in this thread and /k/ regulars are used to my bullshit and yours as well so it doesn't work on them either you morons.
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Given the quality of the early batches, these last ones must've been bad enough that any OSHA inspector seeing one would immediately have a heart attack.
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I'd imagine north korea wants to keep a healthy reserve intact for their south korean border therefore not being able to send EVERYTHING.
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>>64528765
A tanker.
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>>64527773
>Let me remind you that Ukrainian intelligence successfully assassinated Dugin's daughter!
Lmao they were aiming for Dugin. Not a great flex or show of competence
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>>64528765
>>64529725
my favourite is when trap translates into ladder when they spell it like тpaп
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>>64529487
>>North Korea? It has five to ten years left, maybe a lot less.
>Nothing happens until it does and the collapse of Putin and indeed subsequently North Korea will be a 'never saw that coming' moment as it was with the USSR. Yet both are a locked in certainty as this point. The two most disasterously lead nations on earth, North Korean claims to anything become a joke when faced with pic related, taken in 2022. Russian industry and manufacturing is massively disrupted by strikes against power infrastructure, 25% of Russias thermal and electrical electricity production is gone. North Korea has NO electrical infrastructure beyond Pongyang. The very sick and mentally unwell shill on this board will naturally deny the famines North Korea experienced recently, deny the fact that North Korea substantially has no electrification etc

Long ass essay anon.

Read it all, agree with most, but in NK it is currently better than the status quo of the past few years. Putins war chest has partially been used as direct injections into North Korea in return for military aid. North Korea doesn't seem like its ready to give up anything, regardless of if Mr. Un dies or not (he probably has more than a decade or two left anyhow). NK survived for more than 20 years with no real friends and very lackluster cooperation from its neighbors. It is partly why they warmed relations with the south, but now that NK is getting a bit more stable, and has been for 10 or so years, I feel they will greatly outlive Putin as a nation.

North Korea isn't going anywhere, regardless of Russia's failures.
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>>64529585
>I have spent the majority of my adult life memorizing the collected works of Kim Il Sung
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>>64529765
>North Korea isn't going anywhere
Is that because they have no lights or cars?
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>>64529532
>a nation that has utterly failed to even impment elecrtrification
>a testament to the inepitude and failure of a regime that has demonstrated zero ability to even reliably feed it's own population
They have essentially no natural resources retard. The worldwide sanctions and reluctance to support North Korea is the icing on the cake.
>China
>China
>China
>The (b)onus is on the US authorities to deal with this North Korean agent provocateur who has been actively trying to get other /k/ anons to meet it here.
Norktard never says North Korean weapons are good compared to most, regardless of his strange obsession with NK, he is at least (semi) grounded most of the time. Please, next time you post a wall of text format it a bit better, I seriously think you are an ESL.

>>64529778
Yes, but nobody wants to poke them now that they have nukes.
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>>64529765
>NK survived for more than 20 years with no real friends and very lackluster cooperation from its neighbors
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-65881803

"One woman living in the capital Pyongyang told us she knew a family of three who had starved to death at home. "We knocked on their door to give them water, but nobody answered," Ji Yeon said. When the authorities went inside, they found them dead, she said. Ji Yeon's name has been changed to protect her, along with those of the others we interviewed.

A construction worker who lives near the Chinese border, whom we have called Chan Ho, told us food supplies were so low that five people in his village had already died from starvation.

"At first, I was afraid of dying from Covid, but then I began to worry about starving to death," he said.

North Korea has never been able to produce enough food for its 26 million people. When it shut its border in January 2020, authorities stopped importing grain from China, as well as the fertilisers and machinery needed to grow food.

Meanwhile, they have fortified the border with fences, while reportedly ordering guards to shoot anyone trying to cross. This has made it nearly impossible for people to smuggle in food to sell at the unofficial markets, where most North Koreans shop.

A market trader from the north of the country, whom we have named Myong Suk, told us that almost three quarters of the products in her local market used to come from China, but that it was "empty now"."

Not all of them.
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>>64529780
Im not retarded. They have no food, no shit.
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>>64529779
>regardless of his strange obsession with NK
>>64529585
>I have spent the majority of my adult life memorizing the collected works of Kim Il Sung
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>>64529585>>64529788

>I have spent the majority of my adult life memorizing the collected works of Kim Il Sung
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>>64528580
Forcing russia to buy their bitcoin with hard currency
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>>64529791
north korea prefers ETH
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>>64528550
>That reminds me i need to figure out how to make a thread about the things i saw in a dream that turned out to be real without sounding too crazy.
>>64529098
>I saw something in a dream a year ago, i was standing on the review stand in Pyongyang. What did i see? A M270 with both HIMARS and ATCMs loaded on it. What did i see when i saw the parade when it actually happened? This image:
>>64529585
>I have spent the majority of my adult life memorizing the collected works of Kim Il Sung and immersing myself in North Korean propaganda
jesus christ Norktard...
Id be worried if it were literally anyone else saying this
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>>64528765
A tanker like to carry water or fuel. He means trucks and tankers.
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>>64527773
>Let me remind you that Ukrainian intelligence successfully assassinated Dugin's daughter!
Good job missing a University Professor and murdering another innocent civilian I guess?

Also isn't this technically political and not weapons related? I politely reply by stating that I personally I view Ukrainian claims with rightful skepticism. I believe North Korea has one of the largest artillery forces on earth and could level Seoul with it? I don't see how FPV drones would change that, you could still inflict incredible damage to be useful as a deterrent.
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>>64528633
>Nork beer

Anyone here willing to risk a trip to Z-land to get us some samples?
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>>64527773
>ukranian says

yeah meanwhile

>US Army Gen. Christopher Cavoli, NATO's supreme allied commander in Europe, told the Senate Armed Services Committee that Washington expects Russia to produce 290,000 artillery shells monthly.


now lets compare the numbers

usa and eu give a rough estimate of 10.000 to 14.000 rounds per day between august and october 2024
ukraine as always says 40.000 to 80.000 rounds per day which in typical ukranian way of doing things it can easly be debunked because the number of barrels russia produces are below 100 per year
so......................

someone is lying here
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>>64529798
>a University Professor
yeah?

>>64529798
North Korea failed to learn a lesson virtually everyone else on the planet knows by heart.

Don't fuck with the Europeans. Goodbye North Korea, you won't be missed. Congradulations on becoming enemy number one for tthe two greatest power blocks on earth, after Putin is gone Kim's shatytown will be fondly remembering the happier times when they ate mud during famines.
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>>64529799
I want Steve1989MRE to review North Korean rations.
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>>64529801
>someone is lying here
Yes you are. We know that. You're the enemy of civilisation hiding in the USA and lie compuslively, your entuire life is an act of utter hyporcrisy,

Enjoy your deportation. You lied on your visa application. I'm sorry it has come to this but you brought it on yourself.
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>>64529811
>I want Steve1989MRE to review North Korean rations.
An empty paper bag with a picture of fat kim waving
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>>64529811
I don't think he would eat dog meat.
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>>64529801
In 1952, the U.S. Congress passed the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), which barred people from immigrating to the United States on the basis of membership in, or affiliation with a Communist or any other totalitarian party.
>>64529789
>>64529585
>I have spent the majority of my adult life memorizing the collected works of Kim Il Sung and immersing myself in North Korean propaganda, do you really think that there is any way that i could be brainwashed in a way that i haven't already deliberately done to myself with far more skill than you could imagine you fucking idiots?
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>>64529811
You can review them yourself, just go outside and eat grass

>>64529808
>Don't fuck with the Europeans. Goodbye North Korea, you won't be missed. Congradulations on becoming enemy number one for tthe two greatest power blocks on earth, after Putin is gone Kim's shatytown will be fondly remembering the happier times when they ate mud during famines.

Nobody fucking cares that NK is giving Russia shit. Especially considering its a war against a non-EU, non NATO country. All that will be done is finger wagging and shit. NK took advantage of a once in a century opportunity and is rolling with it. Unless we see uniformed Nork troops storming Kiev nothing is going to happen. Nook threats work when you dont use them as leverage all the time (like russia), and when you are a rouge, unpredictable state.

Who wants to risk having a city glassed because a country on the other side of the world gave lackluster military support to a retarded country of slav(e)s? Nobody, Especially fucking Europeans.

It is genuinely probably in the worlds best interest to leave that problem to rot.
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>>64529801
I think you crossed the line when you tried to organise a mettup of gun owners on your property based on a place on the internet you advocate for the North Korean regime.

How stupid are you?
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>>64529821
>Nobody fucking cares that NK is giving Russia shit
Is that so now. You think that sending troops to kill Europeans in an aspiring EU member state on the border of the EU is going to work out just fine for fat kim and you do you?

There naieve and then there is (you).

Time to buy your plane ticket for pongyang and stay there.
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>>64529808
Isn't this an overtly political post? This is off topic, /k/ is for weapons discussion, please read the rules. >>>/pol/
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>>64529824
You are retarded
>>64529822
>>64529819
Im guessing these are you too? Norktard isn't even in the thread dipshit.
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>>64529821
The Europeans don't play nice like the burgers,

You fucked up.
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>>64529813
what kind of schizo level is this?
>>3084075
here is your general anon
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>>64529826
>desperate attemps to censor
>>64529826
>Isn't this an overtly political post?
>>64529585
>I have spent the majority of my adult life memorizing the collected works of Kim Il Sung
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>>64529830
>The Europeans don't play nice like the burgers
Kek, is this opposite world? Let me guess, the joint British-French armada is going to go over and crush those zipperheads right anon?
GTFO to >>>/pol/
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>>64529837
The Spanish Armada is on its' way to Pyongyang as we speak.
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>>64529821
>Nobody fucking cares that NK is giving Russia shit. Especially considering its a war against a non-EU
Yeah, sure. Even Serbia is selling shels to Ukraine. No one cares about fat Kim's hermit kingdom, that's true, but no one wants russo-chinese retards redrawing European borders.
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>>64529835
No I respect your freedom and speech and right to discuss weapons on the weapons board I was just pointing out your seemed political in nature which is against the rules.

Back to the topic of weapons, I know NK has lots of artillery, do they use the 2S7 Pion? I recall them selling artillery to Iraq.
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>>64529840
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/sanctions-against-north-korea/

https://www.nknews.org/2025/10/eu-sanctions-north-korean-general-for-role-in-russias-war-on-ukraine/

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/sanctions-against-north-korea/timeline-eu-sanctions-against-north-korea/
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>>64529843
>2S7 Pion? I recall them selling artillery to Iraq.
They use the Koksan, a 170mm calibre howitzer, IDK if russia itself has any howitzer of the same calibre. Closest equivalent I know of is the 175mm M107 of the US.

>>64529848
Wow, more sanctions! Be real. Status quo and some finger wagging as expected.
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>>64529780
>Daily NK
Yeah so fake news.

An avalanche of shill posts in a shill thread, ya'll need to calm down since it isn't like you are convincing anyone of anything.

Honestly you guys are dumb as shit, do you honestly think anyone in the DPRK is reading this or that anyone on /k/ gives a fuck? You are on an autistic underwater basket weaving Mongolian cartoon board, the fact that none of you seem to understand basic humor tells us everything we need to know about you.

Pissing in a ocean of piss and all that, ect ect.

>>64529848
>Quotes EU council in response to a joke
Saddest shilling of the year.
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>>64529779
>Norktard never says North Korean weapons are good compared to most,

Yes you do you tremendous self shilling faggot
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>>64529851
I think I saw one of these or some very rare North Korean self propelled gun destroyed in Iraq. It was posted here before.
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>>64529855
Iran-Iraq war was wild.
>>64529854
No he doesn't retard, he is here now, Im sure you can scream at him all about it.
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>>64529851
North Koreas parallel crime econyomy can be ripped apart quite easily and North Korea reduced to sub starvation levels along with targeted direct action against North Korean agents and assets.

Last reply. You stamped your own ticket. The EU gave North Korea very little attention aside from diplomatic courtesy to US allies. Now it is a target in its own right and next on the list after Putin.
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>>64529861
>>Last reply. You stamped your own ticket. The EU gave North Korea very little attention aside from diplomatic courtesy to US allies. Now it is a target in its own right and next on the list after Putin.
We will see, thanks for playing with me anon.
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>>64529857
>This retard thinks the ChodeMa-Ho outclasses the K2
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>>64529865
I was not playing Norktard. You have no future.
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>>64529867
You niggers are so retarded.
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>>64527792
>those people saying shit
were zigger trolls
they're even in this thread
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>Why yes my source for my ludicrous bullshit is the trusted Banderite Ministery of Propaganda, they always do le fact check
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zigger bros...not like this...

17.11.2025
Tanks — 11355 (+2)
Armored fighting vehicle — 23594 (+3)
Artillery systems — 34486 (+17)
MLRS — 1544 (+1)
Anti-aircraft warfare — 1246 (+2)
Planes — 428
Helicopters — 347
UAV — 81499 (+213)
Cruise missiles — 3940
Ships (boats) — 28
Submarines — 1
Cars and cisterns — 67536 (+72)
Special equipment — 4000
Military personnel — aprx. 1159420 people (+1160)
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>>64529886
Bragging about destroying 2 tanks from the biggest tank arsenal in history. Ukrine getting desparate even in their propaganda lol
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>>64529886
>428 planes
>347 helicopters
>11,000 tanks
>34,486 artillery
This is actually so ridiculous it's impossible to believe. You need to spam it again though.
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>>64527773
What I'm mostly afraid at this point is NK building or receiving from China millions of these drone and attacking SK that is widely unprepared for this kind of warfare.
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>>64528168
>This has to be a joke right? Russians are such clowns i can't tell anymore.
yes
>>64528550
>Also HIMARs is the missile not the truck.
no
>>64529098
>What did i see? A M270 with both HIMARS and ATCMs loaded on it.
goddamnit you autistic retard. don't double/triple down on this. you ruin our immersion when you reveal that you are actually an autistic retard and don't know shit about anything, including North Korea.
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>>64529886
low balling it Russia stand to loose this by the end of january

90+ tanks (eqivalent to nearly their entire 'decent' reserve)
180 APCs
1300 artillery pieces (heavy mortar reserve gone)
45 MLRS (reserve exhaused)
40 AA systems (giant gaping holes already in air defense)
6300 other vehicles
30 pieces of special equipment
90,000 casualties
+plus planes and helicopters
+ refineries and power plants
Equivaleny quantitively to an entire smaller size first world nations military, if not qualitively

and it is bankrupt

it's like watching a giant turd being flushed
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>>64529889
it's ridiculous to you because you live in a psychotic bubble of kremlin propaganda
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>>64529900
>it's like watching a giant turd being flushed
Its glorious, but it scares me that the only true enemy left will be retarded chinsects. Imagine the implessive spam.
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>Bragging about destroying 2 tanks from the biggest tank arsenal in history. Ukrine getting desparate even in their propaganda lol
Is it even bragging at that point, its like adding 2 cents to 100 dollars. Where are all the tanks Russia used to use, let me answer that for you, they are fucking scrap.
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>>64529904
china is much weaker tmilitarily than russia 2022, it was still buying s300s in 2010 and they are still deployed, it's domestic copies are even worse than Russian ones and useless against US stealth aircraft and it's economy is now in freefall
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>>64529907
>china is much weaker tmilitarily than russia 2022, it was still buying s300s in 2010 and they are still deployed, it's domestic copies are even worse than Russian ones and useless against US stealth aircraft and it's economy is now in freefall

Militarily they are still credible because they havent shown all their *new* shit (compared to all the archaic soviet stockpiles used by the russians) to be what most claim, shit. At least its newer.
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>>64529887
If only russia fielded those glorious armatas then Ukies would be able to pump those numbers up
Oh wait
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>>64529909
>Militarily they are still credible
>>64529907
>it was still buying s300s in 2010 and they are still deployed, it's domestic copies are even worse than Russian ones and useless against US stealth aircraft and it's economy is now in freefall
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>>64529913
stop posting like this, kek
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>>64529907
ok but they have 1.3 billion people they can MOOOBILIZE and an insane industrial capacity, unlike russia that produces fuckall
also china has two active production lines of stealth fighters, and even if they are not as good as F22s or F35s they should not be discounted.
finally in the event of war with china, they would have the home field advantage and while the US is numerically superior in ships and airplanes, they're spread all around the world, while china doesn't have this problem.
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>>64529909
they can't afford show toys and they can't go to war or they get oblierated

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-11-14/china-s-investment-crash-puzzles-economists-and-threatens-growth
China’s collapsing investment is as unprecedented as it is hard to explain.
A plunge estimated at more than 11% in October from a year earlier was the worst single-month performance since the initial Covid lockdowns at the start of 2020, official data showed on Friday. A further crash in investment could prove destabilizing by affecting an activity that makes up nearly half of China’s gross domestic product, driving up risks for an economy already coping with a downswing in exports.
And yet economists are still struggling to square the unprecedented contraction with other statistics or to fully decipher its cause.
The precipitous slump in fixed-asset investment that began in July has yet to create a serious drag on growth. Gross capital formation, another measure of investment activity, even contributed to almost a fifth of the overall GDP gain in the third quarter.
“We can find some reasons to explain the investment drop, but it’s rather hard to understand how it dropped so much,” said Ding Shuang, chief economist for greater China and north Asia at Standard Chartered Plc. The drag from investment “will be even bigger” in the fourth quarter than in the prior three months, he said, predicting it “will be the most prominent reason for declining GDP growth.”


https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2025-china-deflation-cost/
"There is no suggestion that the situation in China will be reversed. Despite slight seasonal upticks on holiday spending, persistent weakness across both the industrial and consumer sectors indicates China’s prices are on track for a third consecutive year of deflation in 2025. And that matters: the longer prices sag, the greater the risk that growth in the world’s second-largest economy could slow for years — even decades."
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>>64528550
>Also HIMARs is the missile not the truck.
Hi Mobility Artillery Rocket System. Yeah, does that sound like it refers to the rocket or the platform?
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>>64529932
It does indeed
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Ukraine already proved they can invade and occupy Russia whenever they want. The Kursk incursion only ended when the lads got bored. Everything else is just vatnik and maga cope.
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>>64529887
>ziggeria literally runs out of fucking tanks
>ukraine stops destroying zigerian tanks because there aren't any
>ziggers: "lmao it's over for ukrops!"
you are such a pathetic existence, really. it's sad, really.
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>>64529925
>ok but they have 1.3 billion people they can MOOOBILIZE
to do what? Ivade Russia? Jump in the sea?
>>64529925
>insane industrial capacity
not really, they have a dysfunctional mess that minus foreign direct investment and orderbooks is a disater area, that' communist five year central plans for you

You're making the mistate of beliving statistics created by single party states with no contested elections, free press or transparent budget scrutiny, the same states that used boast of record harvests during famines in the cold war era

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55892jT06aI
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>>64529931
I have been hearing this for years, unless they literally implode they will still be an extremely powerful regional force, practically the only one capable of fighting the US with some possibility of success (discounting worst Korea and Japan).

Boy do I hope they implode, the seethe would be endless and palpable.
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>>64529950
Someone who isn't too lazy to look up Chinese history tell me when we're due for another warlord era
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>>64529950
Anybody can see China is collapsing in real time. DEMOGRAPHICS ALONE ARE PROOF. Notwithstanding their ongoing economic collapse, and delegitimization due to human rights transgressions. Nobody is falling for your act, wumao.
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>>64529925
They can't amd won't go to war with the US. The response to their insane economic implosion will be isolationism. A Chinnse factory worker is now paid half of what they were five years ago and only the lucky ones or even getting those jobs or even gettinng their wages paid at all. Their entire national savings are in a completely worthless and overstocked property bubble that the state can't stop imploding onl;y pump not enough air back into.

Minus foreign direct investment and order books for manufacturinng, the entire reason for Chinas shift from an agrian subsistence economy to what you see today over the last 35 years was SOLELY drive by for eign direct investment and orderbooks from the US and EU. Minus that it just returns to near medieval conditions for most of the population. You are goinng on about industrial capacity but CHinas industrial capacity of based on being able to buy commodities like iron ore onn global commodity markets and import them. To do what? Sell finsihed goods at a loss by drumping and bleed out even more money?

China is well into a deflationary depression and has no means to reverse course. Its entering into its own 1929 and the EU and US economies started decoupling from it a decade ago, largely due to endemic fraid there and the CCP and that's in it's final stages now. China did not even get off first base as a sustained definitive regional power let alone a superpower and it's surrounded by neighbours it has antagonised.

China won;t be buying up Russian assets, it's pretty fucked itself. The bigger the boom the bigger the bust and it had a very very very big boom, the roots of which have been cut.
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>>64529950
They are imploding. It is happening right now and there is nothing they can do about it. They fucked around and now they are finding out.
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>>64529951
They will go isolationist and double down on authoritarian insanity in reponse to their great depression. China is an inward looking place by default and authoritarian by default especially in response to economic crisis. The entire national foxus will be directed to cutting off conntact with the outside world and ensuring the survival of the CCP. It would be utterly contrary to Chinease political culture to actually go to war right now, aside from the fact they would get their asses handed back to them within 72 hours and the CCP knows it a war would endanger the CCP and the CCP exists only to survice for itself.
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>two more weeks and Russia will crash and stop annihiliating hohols in Pokrovsk
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>in 5 - 10 years I will watch k pop dramas about the evil nasty north korean fpv drones killing kim yoon ahns kpop daddy issues soap opera.

neat!
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>>64529961
The only response to your post is to remind you of a quote from the early war. The Ukranians really are very lucky you are so stupid. Keep going, it is all that the Ukranians need for total victory conditions they could only have dreamed of two years ago,
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>>64529961
>Pokrovsk
I was told for the last three months it had already fallen. Pretty sure I can go back to 2024 or 2023 and state that 'it's about to fall'.
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>>64529961
>dude hohols are getting ANNIHILATED in pokrovsk
>for 2 years now!
>why didn't ziggeria capture pokrovsk by now?
>dude ANNIHILATED
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>>64529966
Its irrelvent aside rom the losses it inflicts on the remaining Russian assets, the same for ever other sliver of land that they gave up percentiles of Russias military and economic capacity to destroy. When they are out of money and equipment, they are done and they can't hold or defend any of it.
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>>64529780
>imagine the cannibalism going on in the deep, dark hinterlands >>64529778
sounds like paradise. Exactly the type of paradise norktard should be thrown in. btw pic related is what the stalinist vatnik union, direct prototype of kimmies dynasty mafia state, did to its useful idiots foolish enough to actually go there
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>>64529977
>Its irrelevnt aside from the losses it inflicts on the remaining Russian assets, the same for ever other sliver of land that they gave up percentiles of Russias military and economic capacity to destroy. When they are out of money and equipment, they are done and they can't hold or defend any of it.

GERMANY WON WW1
LOOK!
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>>64529953
>Their entire national savings are in a completely worthless and overstocked property bubble that the state can't stop imploding onl;y pump not enough air back into.
fake news. Chinese economic genius has deliberately created so called "tofu ghost cities". When buildings collapse a year or two after construction it creates demand for new buildings. Thus increasing GDP. This is what a real country with STRONG handed leadership can achieve for its people
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>>64529983
>btw pic related is what the stalinist vatnik union, direct prototype of kimmies dynasty mafia state, did to its useful idiots foolish enough to actually go there
One of them was Lee Harvey Oswald

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/11/why-lee-harvey-oswald-fled-to-the-soviet-union/281662/

Its worth remembering that those who fanboyed for Putin, Kim, Xi etc are perpetual enemies and that they are destroyed along side these regimes and hunted for life
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>>64529961
>launch summer offensive to capture pokrovsk
>its now winter
>the city still hasn't fallen
>somehow the russians are winning because of this one metric no one can verify
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>>64529780
Korea will have one hell of reconstruction job waiting for them after they reclaim the north from Jong Uns mafia dynasty. Imagine what crossing the former DMZ is gonna be like. One second you are in modern state from the 2020s and another second you are back in time in the 1950s/1960s.

At least northern koreans will provide plenty of development opportunities and cheap labor for the reconstruction of the infrastructure alone. This is before all of the environmental programs like cleaning up commie shit pollution or replanting all of the lost forests the failed regime deleted. Southern citizens are going to be like kings buying up dirt cheap land to develop property for themselves.

Military wise I would imagine koreas army to adapt at least some of the captured artillery pieces like koksan into the fold. Like the regime seems to have more or less the full chain present from making new barrels to shoddy ammo. With proper quality control and modern fire control systems from southern engineers they have at least export potential
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>>64530008
North Koreans will be treated like kings, with endless gibs and privileges, because at least they remember how to reproduce
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is there a single metric that is a net positive for ziggeria in this war?
they gain land but do it so slowly it's basically an exercise in futility
they lose thousands of ziggers
their armour is nonexistent
their air defense doesnt' even work
their international credibility is in shambles
etc etc
to quote one of my favourite movie lines, "what do we have on the spacecraft that's good?"
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>>64529992
Hilarously enough they just double down on scammy lying and bullshit
https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-exports-unexpectedly-slide-worst-since-feb-global-trade-pressure-mounts-2025-11-07/

"BEIJING, Nov 7 (Reuters) - Chinese exports unexpectedly fell in October after months of front-loading U.S. orders to beat President Donald Trump's tariffs, in a stark reminder of the manufacturing juggernaut's reliance on American consumers even as it woos buyers elsewhere."

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/chinese-premier-li-pledges-make-global-trade-fairer-more-transparent-2025-11-05/

"Chinese economy to exceed $23.8 trillion by 2030, premier says"

Its worth noting that the article headline was updated on November 5, 202510:47 AM GMT
From what it was originally:
"Chinese Premier Li derides trade restrictions, pledges to make global trade fairer"

By Brenda Goh.

Pic related 'Brenda Goh"

I notice a lot of what appear to be card carrying CCP Chinese party members in things like Yahoo Finance, bloomberg, reuters o0ften US based who NEVER question the incredibly dubious economic statistics China has been shitting out for decades.

It's worth noting that the Chinese economy in nominal GDP is now significantly smaller than the EUs (minus UK). Its not the second greatest economic power in the world anymore (and that was entirely driven by foreign direct investment FROM the EU and USA). How much is it REALLY behind? It never passed the EU to begin with.
BRICS my ass. Bunch of lying scamming dictators and bullshittery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55892jT06aI


The only thing the CCP will go to war with is the Chinese population same as ever. Isolationism and rice gulags,
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>>64530011
last thing these asian hives need is more mouths. korea is about twice the size of estonia square kilometer wise but has 50 million bodies. Estonia would need somewhere around 25 million to reach similar density instead of the 1 million they have now. Jong Un kingdom, despite the endless famines, has somewhere around 20+ million

first gen norks will be second class citizens in treatment, unfortunately, until their kids get properly educated and assimilate into a functional society. Then the differences will smooth out over time as the two populations intermix. Biggest loser of this will unironically be Seoul as demand for their property will lessen as cheap land opens up north. Like historically Pyongyang has been the biggest city and heart in the peninsula, the development potential up north is enormous. once it gets out of limbo and norks themselves start accumulating wealth with demand for human living conditions
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>>64529440
>Its nuclear arsenal has only made it a legitimate nuclear target.

How big was japan's nuclear arsenal in 1945?
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how can it be easier to manufacture a drone carrying explosive than a shell?
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>>64530024
that saved more japanese lives than it cost, ponyang offers the same rational and humane targeting opportunity

North korea has no capacity to top the US putting a 100NT nuke in kims lap from 50,000 feet
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>>64529939
>to do what? Ivade Russia? Jump in the sea?
to invade taiwan and all the neighbouring islands, do you think the war ends as soon as the red ships touch the blue territories like a videogame?
>not really, they have a dysfunctional mess
unlike the west which is in a very solid and stable position with a positive outlook on the future...?
we moved much of our manufacturing to the third world, and the microchips we desperately need to keep the world going are produced in taiwan.
best case scenario in the event of war we'll have global disruption in trade and manufacturing since the stuff we need will be blockaded or turned into rubble by the PLAN/PLAAF.

>>64529953
going to war would be a very risky strategy for all the reasons you mentioned but if they win they will have total monopoly on microchip manufacturing for the foreseeable future.
the EU has been trying to get their own silicon valley started in italy for years and are still far from filling the gap for example.
>To do what? Sell finsihed goods at a loss by drumping and bleed out even more money?
we banned commercial dumping in europe 100 years ago because it found out it was destroying the economies of the target countries, while china may sell at a loss now (which is probably not true because the production costs in china are still much lower) they are placing manufacturing elsewhere out of business because they can't compete with their pricing.
this has been happening for at least two decades, look at all the big car manufacturers in europe, volkswagen is in the shitter and firing tens of thousands of people, fiat doesn't exist anymore, i dont know how other manufacturers are doing but odds are they're downsizing as well.

tl;dr downplaying how dangerous china can be is stupid and reckless
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>>64530018
I dont know which is more pathetic
>these tyrannical dictatorship playing the dual trick of tight censorship and defeaning propaganda to sweep all problems under the rug. out of sight, out of mind etc
>or western media that is so compromised with fifth columnists and demoralization they 100% buy into whatever hot takes these dictatorships plop directly into their mouths
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>>64529889
>This is actually so ridiculous it's impossible to believe
Yeah, that's why there are no tank attacks now, but golf carts, assault barns, mad max style ladas and dirt bikes
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>>64530034
>which is probably not true because the production costs in china are still much lower
>probably
>meaning your opinion based on feels
changs are known to deliberate subsidize for prestige projects and hostile takeovers. Their dogshit EVs are a good example of this as chinesium cars litter fields since they are so overproduced. Due to CCP paying bonuses for each unit made in an attempt to monopolize markets. As far as cheap labor goes changs are out of that category now. places like Vietnam and Mexico are better options then them

>they are placing manufacturing elsewhere out of business because they can't compete with their pricing.
its called protective barriers and tariffs (not the trump kind). If EU is so weak willed and demoralized it can't protect its auto manufacturers from cheap chink garbage spam then they fully deserve to have their automotive industries wiped out
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>>64530007
>launch summer offensive to capture pokrovsk
even better was that it wasn't summer this year, but summer LAST year
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>>64527773
Goddamn that took long.
Just how much did the norks have stockpiled?
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>>64530054
>If EU is so weak willed and demoralized it can't protect its auto manufacturers from cheap chink garbage spam then they fully deserve to have their automotive industries wiped out
people keep saying that but they aren't getting hit in their home markets. They are doing just fine there.
no the problem for them is the export market to the second world. places where safety standards, emission norms ect. are all a distant second or third to the unit price
you can't fix that with a tariff
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>>64530018
Nice spot, I always thought some of the puff pieces seemed off with how fucking blatant and unquestioned they were. Turns out it was just CCP shit straight from the ass.
>t. ethnochink
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>>64530034
>while china may sell at a loss now (which is probably not true because the production costs in china are still much lower) they are placing manufacturing elsewhere out of business because they can't compete with their pricing.
L'mao zedong no, they were told to cool their jets and gov't subsidies started to choke back because of overproduction. Worked great for propaganda tho.

#2 point most techbro/influencer fucktards (and (you)) miss: Chinese EVs are built to lesser crash testing standards in regards to structural strength (steel grades, structural members) which is why NA/EU/developed world markets have the shit of a lil econobox that costs $25k but they can get slammed by a 5,000lbs pickup and not insta-crush the occupants. You can see the stark difference between a 90s to early 00s car vs a 3,300lbs "econobox" of 2020s+ from the move towards coddling the occupants from dying of retarded shit (self induced or from other drivers).

This is why Chinese EVs flood turdie markets: They don't need to survive crash testing that the developed world considers reasonable. Not only that, countries like the US B& non-crash tested, high volume cars from mass import.
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>>64530088
besides the non existent crash testing, those fucking chinesium batteries are a legit death trap. Once these shitty made lithium ion batteries start burning there is no stopping until they have exhausted their internal fuel supply

Entire families are burned to death weekly as footage leaks into their social media. Which then promptly gets deleted by censors while cops pay a visit to the posters
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>>64529487
>North Korea? It has five to ten years left, maybe a lot less.

https://usdebtclock.org/

America is literally borrowing to pay the interest on its federal debt. Total US public and private indebtness is about 750% of US GDP now. America will not collapse from external events or pressure, but from the long term impossibility of using debt as money. At present America (and Europe) is in uncharted waters and is experiencing a new phenomen that economicsts refuse to acknowledge because it goes against their jew dogma. It is called a "debt exhaustion depression".

This is why despite all talk about war with China, there is no building of new shipyards, expansion of missile production, whatever. Once you study the american economic system from an engineering perspective you realize that Krugman was right when he said that the "science" of economics is just (jewish invented) theology.

Is the american situtation fixable? Yes. It is politically possible to fix it? No. Fixing America would bankrupt everyone who is leveraged with debt, from the zoomer to the boomer. Rich americans are rich because they have superleveraged everything with debt. Debt is sold as investments, boomer pension funds are invested in debt, not productive business. It is called "securitization".

The only thing all these UnUhhmerican skoombags like North Korea, Rooosia, Chyna and other places need to do is to last longer than America. Americans also need to prepare so they can last longer than America.
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>>64527801
>implying Russians are capable of any feelings towards their progeny other than greed or lust
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>>64529532
>It cannot now nor never has been able to match advanced chip production or other advanced technolgies produced in the EU or USA

Sorry man but I just need to go check my peptide seller to see that you are wrong. This is advanced technology that you cant source from Europe or USA. Before you go "I dont need that", you should know that you can fix knee and shoulder joint problems with injections of mGRF 1-29 + GHRP-2/Ipamorelin. I see a lot of people whining about join pain on this board. 100 microgram of each, injected once or twice daily, for 2-4 weeks, should fix that trough releasing a pulse of growth hormone. Usually sold in a combo vial, 10mg/10mg of each, good for 50 injections, store dark in the refridgerator.

The chinks are mass producing chips using 28 nm 2012 tech, these go into cars, routers, tvs, whatever, the sweet spot for lowest price per transistor is 22-28 nm. The "dutch" company, actually "dutch reseller" Nexperia, imported 80% of their sales from China. It was all microprocessors. The rest, consisting of simple crude power control semiconductors, was made in Europe. Without these chink chips, the company was nothing, which the dutch government found out after seizing it from its chink owner.
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>>64529780
>https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-65881803

British media is globhomo desinformation. This is what is called "black propaganda", in this case aimed at the middle upper class who reads this bong drivel. Its supposed to look serious and somber but it is completely made up. The crude working class proles gets their black propaganda in a different form, see my picture.
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>>64529953
>Its entering into its own 1929

1929 was an artificial event intentionally caused by the federal reserve. It enabled finance insider jews to scoop up enormous amounts of "distressed assets" for cents on the dollar. It was not a depression as much as the conclusion of a long confidence scam.
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>>64530088
>Chinese EVs are built to lesser crash testing standards in regards to structural strength (steel grades, structural members) which is why NA/EU/developed world markets have the shit of a lil econobox that costs $25k but they can get slammed by a 5,000lbs pickup and not insta-crush the occupants.
Reminds me of an interesting episode at the Euro NCAP a few months ago. They were testing an MG 3 hybrid hatchback (MG's originally a British brand, now made by the Chinese SAIC Motor). The driver's seat came off its mountings in the frontal collision test, crushing the dummy's lower legs against the dashboard.
This kind of uncontrolled seat failure has never, ever happened in the history of their testing, so they had no rules for how to score a result like this. The airbag also failed to inflate fast enough and didn't do much.
They were forced to give it four stars anyway since it checked a large number of boxes with its other safety features, and it did ok in most other tests.



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