What's that? You spent all day theorycrafting an innovation in the firearm industry?Maybe P90's in 5.56 cased telescoped?Plasma and laser rifles?Full support chambers?Caseless?Kellgrenhosers or Bolters?Did you think that maybe one day we'll break free from the form factor of the AR15 lower receiver? I have bad news buddy. The AR will consume all. You may have your innovations, but the AR lower receiver will claim them. It is the Ur-rifle. The universe is Conway's Game of Life and the lower receiver of the Armalite Rifle model 15 is the self replicating structure that arises no matter how much you tune the starting parameters. Its sillhouette was beamed into Eugene Stoner's brain in a moment of revelation. Your extruded receiver AR18s are nothing but blasphemy against the one true form factor.
>>64530753Is all return to monke, father?No, son. All is go to crabbe.
>>64530753QMAG WLVRN when?
>>64530759The comments on WLVRN videos are schizophrenicas in lovers or haters
>>64530769The MDR has always been that way. I don't really get why it makes people upset, admittedly it's heavier than it should be since designing a rifle to convert between short action and mini action is silly, but apart from that I don't see why it gets more hate than the Tavor and VHS.
>>64530753>P90mag>Works>Quarto(beaner) el mag built by Mormon cultists>Shits the bedI think I'll tolerate the Belgians for this round.
>>64530876but does it? i've only head good things about the quattro. And even if this incarnation doesn't work out, I see no fundamental issue with its mechanics that cannot be improved with a gen2
>>64530753>BoltersWarhammer 40K is made by and for noguns. If you are saving up for anything that has to do with WH40K, I'd suggest taking your funds to the fine gentlemen at the Palmetto State Armory.
hear me out, a three magazine coupler
>>64531155I remember watching a video where a guy loads up a few quattro mags and then drops them on the ground and they break to the point of being unusable
>>64530753>Maybe P90's in 5.56 cased telescopedYou didn't have to call me out like that, anon. But fuck, I'd take an AR-15 in PCT. Just give me the ammunition to fuck around with. >>64531749Give links? NAYRT but I'd like to see counterpoints to all the hype.
I kind of want one of their lowers desu. 200 something for a blemished lower with some extras included... Fuck I hope it's still there on payday.
You can get a 60 round mag for 35 dollarydoos and you don't need a special lower to use them.
>>645330741) The schmeissers are almost comically long. 2) quad stacks with a double stack tower will have a capacity about 15 rounds less than desert tech style mags (for the same length)The desert techs are the way forward. So you have to get a new lower. Big deal.
>>64533084Aren't schmeissers dog shit quality too?
>>64533084Also, DT are being jews and not selling only the lower. You've got to buy a whole set that's $320
>>64533074>>64530753Another case for superiority of rock in mags over magwell.Magwell was a Big Mistake .
>>64531711see >>>64495933
>>64533084Desert Techs are comically wide
>>64533184It appears to be roughly four cartridges wide.
>>64533184I’ve seen that, yeah. They can use a thinner spacer. I measured a while back and IIRC the width was like >1.9”. Doesn’t have to be any wider than 1.7” at its widest. The cartridge stacks together are 1.45” wide with a 1mm spacer. Add on 0.1” mag walls and the total width is 1.65”. Not unreasonable at all.>>64533105I’m not sure.
>>64533105I've only used mine once and it seemed fine.They're too heavy and long to be practical in my opinion. I didn't buy it it was a gift.
>>64533191>quad stack>surprised it's four bullets wide
>>64533074these fucking suck unlike the quattro
>>64534495>that's the joke
>>64530753Why dont they just make a smaller profile AR receiver that takes shortened 5.7 STANAG style mags instead of the p90 horizontal mags? Or even just extended five-seven or whatever other pistol mags
>>64535505Because 5.7 FN is a worthless cartridge and demand for it has completely dried up outside of the civilian larperator market.
>>64535520he FN 5.7 pistol is constantly maligned or underestimated in many gun forums and articles, often by people who have never experienced shooting the pistol. Subjective comparisons with the .22 magnum or categorization as a sub-par .223 round create confusion about the effectiveness of the FN 5.7Using SS192 and SS197SR ammunition (common commercial 5.7x28 ammo), several 20-30 round magazines and an FN 5.7 (shooter also had a .357 revolver but did not use it), Hassan killed 13 and wounded 321. 11 people were shot center-of-mass (COM), one was shot in the stomach and one was shot in the head. All 13 died. All 11 victims who were shot COM did not survive.2. 3 of the 13 people who died, tried to charge Hassan, but he stopped them with COM shots.3. The 32 people who were wounded were hit in the arms, legs, hips and shoulders. None of the wounded survivors were shot COM.The following conclusions can be drawn:1. The FN 5.7 is a very lethal round CQB because all 11 victims who were shot COM died. No survivors for those hit COM.2. The FN 5.7 is a real stopper, because 3 tried to charge Hassan at close range and were stopped by COM shots.3. One of the fatalities was shot in the stomach, and died. The fragmentation of the SS197R round can create a hail of metal shards that can cause serious internal organ damage and bleeding in the stomach.4. None of the 32 people who were hit in the extremities, hips and shoulders were able to muster a counter-attack because the FN 5.7 must have shattered or broken bones. The high rate of wounded vicitms to fatalities was the direct result of the shooting ability of Hassan (or lack thereof), and not because the 5.7x28 round is not lethal.
>>64535546(cont.)5. Sgt. Kimberly Munley (base civilian police), one of the first responders, was immediately disabled with 5.7x28 bullet shrapnels to her wrist and a second 5.7x28 bullet broke her femur. The light 5.7x28 commercial ammo showed that it can shatter large bones due to its velocity6. According to medical personnel, there was so much blood in the room that it was difficult to get to the victims because the floor became very slippery. One can conclude that the commercial 5.7x28 rounds can fragment or tumble, causing immense blood loss.7. It took five bullets (which I assume was a 9 mm) from Sgt Mark Todd to stop Hasan. And he survived his wounds (no available info on where he was hit, except that one of the bullets paralyzed Hasan).In conclusion:1. The FN 5.7 is definitely a very lethal round. 100% fatality for COM shots.2. The FN 5.7 is a man-stopper. Three military men tried to charge Hasan, and all three were stopped.2. The FN 5.7 is a very incapacitating round, if extremities are hit, because it is powerful enough to break the femur (which is the largest bone in the body)3. The fragmentation or tumbling effect of commercial ammo can cause a lot of blood loss.The FN 5.7 is a very effective weapon. It is as effective as, or arguably more effective, than any military or civilian pistols in the market.
>>64535546>>64535549Didn't read your AIslop thesis, but more people have been killed by .22lr than 5.7 FN, so your claim that 5.7 is the scariest, spookiest baby-and-cop killing cartridge around because some people died after being shot with it is not am argument.
>>64535561that's great newfag
>>64535562I'll just remind you about the guy that got shot over a dozen times with P90s before surrendering and asking the cops to please stop shooting him, and then survived.
>>64535577that was MP7s retard
>>64535581It was P90s, but I don't doubt that it happens all the time with MP7s as well because 4.6x30 is somehow even worse than 5.7.
>>64535585Nah, didn't happen
>>64535592Maybe ask your AI if it ever happened.
>>64535610What AI? You still on that retard shit where you think any post longer than three words was written by AI, even though it's an obvious copypasta that's older than you are?Subhuman retard filth zoomer faggot.
>>64535617Oh, so it was an AI-ghostwritten listicle you copied from a google search? Honestly, that's even lazier.
>>64535626keep trying, you're almost there
>>64535628So you're really claiming that you're the one that wrote that obvious AIslop? Oh, now I get it, you're a bot. You are the one that wrote it because you're the AI.
>>64535637First day on 4chan?
>>64530753You are correct.I was theorycrafting of either 50+ Rounds of 5.56 in a G11 Platform (no burst fire) or that same 50+ Capacity in a P90 Platform (think the P12 Shotgun)Or rather recently, an SKS in 5.56.However, my recent exposure to Desert Tech Quattro-15 (really last night) made me think of the potential of the rifle.It's a good piece of theorycraft kit. A good contender for the HK416 in the USMC's theoretical Magazine Fed SAW.
>>64535561>more people have been killed by 22lr than 5.7 [therefore this is an indictment against 5.7]Explain to me what per capita is, and tell me how you’d feel if you didn’t eat breakfast this morning.
>>64535743Okay, let's see some per capita numbers for 5.7 instead of "Nidal Hassan shot some people and then they died and therefore 5.7x28 is the deadliest cartridge in all of history."
>>64535549>AR Five sevenIf that's your pic, how do you like them? Have a spare AR lower I want to do something with and I already buy 5.7 since I have an FN 5.7. Of course I'm also considering a PS90
>>64535637do you not know what a pasta is newfag?
>>64530753idc. i still think the ar-57 is neat.
>>64535660we really are gonna be using ar15s on Venus arent we?
>>64535813it's neat and unique but a quattro mag gives you the same capacity, does not take up rail space, and is easier to carry
>>64535824And also fits a vastly more effective cartridge.
>>64535824it's pig fat and makes your gun pig fat.
>>64535756per capita people who do retarded shit can't afford 5.7
>>64535866Sounds like per capita only highly intelligent trained killers like Nidal Hassan who can instantly kill anyone with a single round of 5.7 carry the cartridge. Surely it must have an incredibly high lethality rate.
>>64535637>>64535626>>64535610>>64535561Let me spoonfeed you, newfag. A copypasta is a block of text copied and pasted to the Internet for humorous purposes and/or to provoke reactions from those unaware that its a meme. The 5.7 copypasta has been around since at least 2017. The Transformer paper that led to LLMs only came out in 2017. No AI was involved in making the pasta. You see, back in the day, people actually wrote whole sentences, paragraphs even, without using AI. Now stfu and lurk more, retard.
>>64535905>He's proud of the fact that his natural writing style is assistantslopConsider suicide. Yes, I know that's your own post that you've been reposting for nearly a decade. No one else would think it's even remotely insightful.
>>64535920this guy is really this mad about copypasta lmao
>>64535920I am not the anon you were arguing with, retard, and I doubt he wrote it either. Did you miss the part where pastas are memes? Why do you think the 5.7 rant became a pasta to begin with?>>64535577>>64535581>>64535585Also what specific incident was this? Trust me bro crap from both of you.
>>64530753Just jungle it.
>>64535756The point is that it’s inconclusive. But it’s foolish to imply that 22lr is the ultimate man-dropper because it’s felled more men than anything else. Yeah it’s cause everyone has a pocket 22 and it’s been around for like a billion years.
