Flankers are performing carrier ops from CATOBAR carrier. Have we officially entered the Neon Genesis Evangelion timeline?
>>64536210implessive
>>64536210Why are you so butthurt chinky?
>>64536254Two HIMARS launchers
>>64536210Sovlless
>>64536254>>64536255Russia and China are sperging out at the same time, it's a double dose of copium this week.
>>64536210Damn, only took them 40 years after Top Gun came out
>>64536210'Welcome to the interesting times zone' to the tune of 'Welcome to the danger zone'
Fair to see Chinese Flankers are superior to their Russkie counterparts?
>>64536210Flankers are such big bitches holy shit.
>>64536560The Chinese next to them look like ants.
>>64536541Probably not, the J-15 has had at least 3 verified hull losses with a fleet of 50 over the course of a single decade with probably a ton more incidents or cover ups.
>>64536254A training ground in Voronezh got ATACMS'd
>>64536210>Have we officially entered the Neon Genesis Evangelion timeline?We've been in it the whole time. The signs have been intensifying for a couple decades now.
>>64536591The U.S. losing 4 super hornets in less than 8 months doesn't mean hornets are bad aircraft.
>>64536541It isn't a high bar since Russia can't make modern avionics.
>>64536662You have to look at the circumstances. What is the fleet size? What caused the hull losses?
>>64536685"I can't speak for China, since they keep everything a secret, but in the case of the U.S., suddenly losing 5 aircraft several months apart compared to 3 in the decade before is troubling to say the least. It doesn't change the fact that super hornets are great aircraft.
>>64536691America loses military aircraft all the time, that doesn't mean they're unreliable. We just fly them a lot. If the Chinese ramp up their flanker exercises and get as many flight hours as Americans do they'll start losing airframes too. We lose an F-16 about 1.8 per 100,000 flight hours, we lose two of them every year on average. We have a LOT of F-16s.
>>64536254>>64536255>>64536380War tourists jumping at shadows will never be not funny
>>64536700>mentally ill shills spam pro-zigger/pro-chink spergouts day in, day out, for years>retard is surprised that this sours people on anything china or russia related.
>>64536706I'm sure it was all real in your mind
>>64536700>>64536723I'll bet you this is OP samefagging
>>64536724You don't know what that word means, tourist.
>>64536691'However, your point which correctly points out that suddenly losing aircraft does not mean a plane is bad, cannot be applied to the Chinese fleet precisely because of those reasons.' Like I said, let's look at the circumstances. Two of these incidents were from friendly fire and the carrier maneuvering, not related to the reliability of the plane. The remaining two are related to mechanical and reliability issues, with the third yet to be determined.Meanwhile, all of China's J-15 fleet crashes have been mechanical failures, with fleet commanders and pilots complaints even making it past the censorship. That is with a fleet size one order of magnitude smaller than than the F/A-18 fleet, with probably another order of magnitude less flight hours. When all of that is put together, it's not only a statistically, but also qualitatively unreliable plane.
>>64536723Yes, i’m sure all those mentally ill shills that keep popping up are totally not real, very convincing.The last tard spergout was only, what, 2 days ago?
>>64536733I mean they're flankers at the end of the day. China made hundreds of them for their air force, so why the sudden reliability issues for their navy?>>64536699>If the Chinese ramp up their flanker exercises and get as many flight hours as Americans do they'll start losing airframes too.Correct. My original response was to the Chinese flanker being better than the Russian one, to which I got the response is their crashes is proof they aren't any better. You're making my point for me that crashes aren't a sole indication of aircraft reliability, hence the super hornet, and as you mentioned the F-16
>>64536210Vely impleassive. Vely ching khu lung
I WENT TO THE CHING CHONG ZONE
>>64536853>China made hundreds of them for their air force, so why the sudden reliability issues for their navy?Not claiming that the other flanker clones like the J-11 and J-16 are bad, but who knows. We just know the naval J-15 is dogshit. Maybe the NAVAIR curse is universal for everyone.
>>64536729Wow way to out yourself Hapanda! Kisses!
>>64536254>What blew up in ruganda?"State of emergency declared in DPR after two thermal power plants damaged by Ukraine.""Denis Pushilin, the head of the Russian occupation administration in Ukraine’s eastern Donetsk region, said several installations at the Zuivska and Starobesheve thermal power plants had shut down following an “unprecedented” Ukrainian attack overnight from Monday to Tuesday. "
>>64536255>Why are you so butthurt chinky?THe CCP are not butthurt, they are scared. In 2022 they thought Russia was the second greatest military power on earth and in 2022 bought Russian S300 air defense systems which their copied and have a less capable domestic version of as their primary air defense. Their economy is imploding and they are watching what seemed to Peking a mighty warlord Putin who they sought to emulate and which they were a military client for weapons systems go down in flames. Scared little chang is pffing out his little chest pretending to his slave population facing destitution that China is a great and powerful thing while desperately trying to showpiece and larp as a western power from the 1950s using bits of soviet junk and crap copies of 1950s ships built to to the standards of disney cruise ships but thrown together quickly with no quality assurance. Look said chang pointing at his purchased piece of shit societ era carrier and scale model of a 1950s US carrier, we real strong, no look at manufacturing order collapse, property buuble implosion and deflationary recession! (pls buy chinese made plastic cup holder, pls, pls)
>>64536853Not all Flankers are navalised. The ones that are create extra stress on the airframes and most aircraft not designed from the ground up for naval operations tends to do poorly. Naval operations just tend to result in more failures by the merit its naval based, especially with CATOBAR involved.
>>64537254Just about nothing in your post checks out.For starters, the chinks aquired S-300s as far back as 1993, and then they developed their own upgraded systems from it over the next 20 years.
>>64536210>ai sloppa
>>64537227>several installations at the Zuivska and Starobesheve thermal power plants had shut down following an “unprecedented” Ukrainian attack overnightThe dronings will continue until morale improves.
Implessvie
>>64536560They're even bigger than F-15s
IMPLESSIVE!
>>64536870structural engineer did his job, civil shit the bed
>>64537916I'm sure nobody died and wendelfel ching Chong ching khu engineera did da jab for glolius China
Has west taiwan reengined all the early j-20 with the weak engines.
>>64537989Impleassive. Must impleassive
>>64536210Looks very CGI.
>>64536210Why does this look fake? Can chinks not even launch 4th gens?
>>64537989>>64538053Impressive
>>64538161Elon musk is the biggest distributer of copium to thridies
>>64538161 Where did the stats for the west taiwan engines come from?
>>64538161Vely impleassive. Vely chink khu lung
>>64538161holy fuck the schizo has found more random bullshit to add to his macrosoon we will be seeing a /g/ tier schizopost
>>64536210Any of it launching with a combat load?We know they had to extend the cat runs to have enough space, and flankers are big heavy bitches, so I'm wondering if they will struggle to launch with full hard pointsDoes PLAN have any carrierborne tanker options?
>>64538161>The engine is heavier than originally claimed, therefore the aircraft can't supercruiseWhat?
>>64536691>>64536733>>64536853Downright strange posting. What's with the quote mark, not quoting any post, and nauseating prose.I think some Chinese "people" need to be slaughtered to appease the stupidity you've made me deal with.
>>64538161I think we found who the f-119 engine spammer is.This userpage isn't suspicious at all. Not at all.And making wikipedia page changes without citations and evidence? And then basing your evidence on lies?Hoooooo WEEEE boy!We got a traitor on our hands!
>>64539258He already took his instagram down.This guy knows he's up to no good.We have a compromised, claimed former marine, chinese aligned american spewing ccp propoganda.Boy I found my white whale.An honest to god traitor who deserves execution
>>64538161Check this shit out, retard.
>>64539258>Steve7c8He's a turboautist that has been correcting and adding info related to US projects for years, give him a verified doc and he'll edit the wiki regardless if it's good of bad [in your mind]. Most articles related to the JSF program were edited by him at some point and using docs. And if you check the Hanzi user, he added a "bench" figure to improve T/W lmao.>>64539276> ETU-114/EThat is for the GE F110, for the F119 is:>Engine Shipping System (ESS) (P/N P4330450)And>3000E transportation trailer (3000E) (NSN 4800-000-00)
>>64539305I dont give a shit.
oh wow the dishonesty problem has caught another anon's eyes. I will keep fighting the good fight!>>64538161>>64538161
>>64539350>I d-don't c-care btw!The F119 and F135 articles will end with anti-vandalization protection because a lot of "I don't care"-non-registered people will delete the TO mention and waste time with a change that went unnoticed for months before Musk mentioned it.
The west taiwan coping is so sad. Then they have nothing to be proud of.
>>64539375>nuclear submarine sank>no radioactive detected based chinese honest nuclear reactor designs. I hope the US use honest materials for their nuclear subs.
>>64539371I don't give a shit. No engine weight can be proved and the only people trying to shit on american ones are commies who deserve to die.Get the fuck over it.
>>64536541For sure, the chinese invested heavily in avonics upgrades.Everything else on the Flanker is still fine. The aerodynamics are peak fighter aerodynamics for low speed and post stall handling before stealth and tvc fucked shit up, ideal carrier plane desu.
>>64537254China owns the Pacific
>>64539375they don't build SSN's out of Wuhan. A small SSK or UUV may have sank dockside, but propaganda niggers always have to go one step further and add some embellishment and turn it into fake news.
Retard
>>64536210Implessive
West taiwan quality is nomber one a ok.
>>64539384>chinkshill seethingLmao
Implessive
>>64538161>>64538168>>64538209>It's realhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratt_%26_Whitney_F119#Specifications_(F119-PW-100)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pratt_%26_Whitney_F135#F135-PW-100/400
>>64540639Posted the edited Wikipedia article that includes entire installed propulsion package weight while labeling it as dry awardGenuinely seek mental help
>>64540639>>64540691Thisssss this this this this.That's my problem with all of it.If these >dry engine weights are wrong then all engine weights listed publicly are wrong.All of them. US, russian, chinese.Either get the data to change all engine weights to >as installed or dont change any of them.Why do people think they're smart when they just are not.That marine engi is still a traitor btw.
>>64540830Nah the chinese has never calculated TWR at shipping. In fact, the honest and noble Han mind could not have fathomed why any would calculate TWR at shipping.Like why?
>>64537254
>>64541906>grorious chinknese destroyer is better than sirry amelican zumwart because of its 130mm gun
>>64541906 Yes west taiwan temu destroyer so agile so mighty. West taiwan is such a mighty paper tiger.
>>64539375>Nuclear submarine sankI think they're supposed to do that!
>>64541906Imagine talking like that when your navy has ZERO combat experience and the most damage it has ever inflicted was against itself. Absolutely disgraceful.If you talk the talk, you better wok the wok.
>>64541973 Sink and submerge are two different actions. When a sub submerges it can come back up. When a crappy temu submarine made by west taiwan sinks it stay down.
>>64542000They refloated it though. Therefore it was just an unplanned submersion.
>>64536210lol
>>64536210Gay chang propaganda we real cuntry naw, see luck sloviet slop on disney cluise liner clarrier for winnie da poo
>>64541906How can anything be 'the deadliest' when its never even been in combat and likley never will be? Because chinese state propaganda with no free press or opposition oversight or contested elections or free speech from a corrupt single party state told you in a fucking twatter screenshot?yeah
>>64541906Ah the hypersonic meme. Dispite the fact that Russia found out that they get shot down by western tech just like everything else and gulaged the developers responsible for overhyping them?The Chinsese claim to 'own the pacific' coming from what is effectively a state controlled propaganda anus of the Chinse communist party is evidently bogus.Given that the Japanese, Taiwan, Philippines, Vietnam, Indonesia, Malysia, Singapore, Australia etc exist and are armed and hostile let alone the US. It is showing every reason the Chinese economy is imploding hard. That fine line between spouting shit to your own slave farm population to defect from a failing single party states who's only achivements come from foreign direct investments from the US and EU and pissing off all your neighbours and the people who funded your electrification which due to utter shit like that is now gone, gone, gone.Xi has been an epic fail. He's blessed a complete retard like Putin exists to make him seem relatiovely intelligent.
>>64536541AESA vs PESA Radars. Chinks have closed the Engine gap significantly and have straight up better Avionics, I would say so.
>>64542563And other fantasies you can tell yourself.
UWU FLANKER IS SO SEXYYYY
>>64536210This isnt a normal Flanker.It's a dual seat J-16D Sino-Growler.You see the fixed EW pods on the wingtips.It would be something like Russia's Su-34 EW variant taking off from a carrier.
>>64536210 The j16 is basically stripped down like the j35 when they launch them.
>>64539548America owns the oceans and the air.
>>64541906That doesn't sound pathetically insecure at all.
>>64544656yea. American F35 patrols the ocean!
>>64542460Kek. I missed that.
>>64542993You think currently manufactured Russian engines and avionics are better than Chinese?
>>64544684Almost like if you run thousands and thousands of launches a year you might lose an airframe.
LOL the west taiwan carrier has only 3 emals. That is probably still too many for the carrier powerplant to handle.
>>64544947It only has two because they have to choose between using their third catapult and using their second elevator.
>>64544947Intuition on sight is giving me the suspicion that this entire boat is half-quality compared to contemporary standards and operates on a shoestring budget.
>>64544684>if i post rare accidents that happened, t-they’ll be forced into face-saving mode like i do when someone points out real systemic issues in chinaNope, sorry, angry and obsessive chinkshill. People just laugh at you for trying such silly metoditchka on the statistically safest jet fighter in the world.
People just love to dunk on west taiwan.
>>64544684So we forgot this already?
