During the test, Türkiye's KIZILELMA fighter jet drone locked onto target F-16 at a distance of 30 miles using the Murad AESA radar developed by Aselsan. It then executed a simulated firing with Gökdoğan BVR missile produced by Tübitak SAGE. In the simulated attack, Bayraktar KIZILELMA successfully hit the highly maneuverable F-16 target, marking a major step in the history of air-to-air combat https://www.defenceturkey.com/en/content/historic-trial-for-bayraktar-kizilelma-locked-onto-an-f-16-scored-a-direct-hit-in-simulated-fire-6389
Flight footage from today
Greek sisters, our response?
>>64540970They’ll cross their fingers and pray that manned jets stay on top.
vaporware
More flight footage with 2x BVR AA missiles on pylons,IWB launches will be conducted as well
>>64540923>producedall products are copy paste and rename.....
>>64540970Get in the queue for ghost bats, although besides the Australian’s and the American’s I don’t know who else is waiting for them?
>>64541093Roketsan copy pasted one of Eurasia’s largest missile production facilities, while Aselsan mirrored a massive radar, optics, laser and IIR sensor production complex in Ankara. These two companies also cloned about 20000 engineers as well.
I hope they use them against Israel.
>>64540923>turkiyeiv makes UAV called KEKLOLMAOare they allergic to giving gear non-retarded sounding names?
>they literally call it "red apple"
>>64540923>simulated firing>In the simulated attack, Bayraktar KIZILELMA successfully hit the highly maneuverable F-16 target>>64541039>launchesBut when/where?
>>64541165brown
>simulated attack>simulatedI fucking hate Turkey
>>64541670Actual firing will happen very soon, maybe today or tomorrow
this drone is built for two TKD.The Levant has fallen.
>>64540923>usa says that they gonna fire an aim120 from their drone buddy >2 days later the turkish drones starts spamming /k/ about their superior kebab drone
>>64540923Two more weeks before the Muslims produce anything interesting mashallah we will be a great nation one day>ps we are white and superior>ps but also we are great ottomans>ps no we won't leave your country
>>64542966go do damage control for your most recent failure jeet
>>64542966>Shopping bags
why does nobody ever talk about how the roach drone looks just like the j-20?
>>64542986>>64543508Browns shitting on another flavour of brown lmao
>>64543987Post hand mutt
>>64542716>two TKDstotal kurd deathtotal kike deathi presume
>>64540923At a distance of 30 miles, the F-16 would've already shot it down from much further away. Wake me up when it's targeting fighters from 80 miles.>>64543699Good aerodynamics are good aerodynamics. There isn't much to talk about since it's not really worth re-inventing the wheel every time you design a new aircraft, which is why the J-31/J-35 takes so much from the F-35 and why the Soviet Space Shuttle Buran looked so much like the US Space Shuttles.
>>64544649KE has a RCS of ~0.2 m2 with internal weapon bays. Radar signature is actually 25 times smaller than a loaded F-16Not F-35 or J-35 tier stealth, but still superior to any Gen 4 fighters out there.
>>64544690A block 50 with the apg 68 would have trouble finding .2m rcs within 35 miles sure, but a large majority of f-16s use the -83 AESA...
>>64540923>TürkiyeTurkey
>>64540923>Arabs claim credit for the US's Loyal Wingman program 15 years after the first flight and 10 years after the first successful testsYeah, no. Also its Turkey, not 'Turkiye'. You're on an English-speaking underwater basket weaving forum.
>>64544718The Murad 100 AESA on KE is a GaN AESA. >Murad 100T/R Module power: 20 wattNumber of modules: 1031GaNLiquid Cooling>AN/APG83 on F-16 Block 70T/R Module Power : 10 wattNumber of modules: 1020GaAs Air cooling>Captor-E on Eurofighter Tranche 4T/R Module power: btw 15-20 wattNumber of modules: 1500GaNLiquid CoolingThe actual expectation that KE's radar to perform somewhere between APG83 - Captor E.
>>64544791Have loyal wingman projects ever performed any air-to-air launch testing? As far as i am aware, American and Australian loyal wingman jets don't have a dedicated radar or sensor suite installed on them.
>>64544849There is no way in hell that the MURAD 100 will perform anywhere near the APG-83, the cooling unit for the 100 in the F-16 (which is going to be larger than on this drone) is only rated for 4.5kW/m2. Taking into account the ~1000 T/R modules and the expected ~35% efficiency of most 1st gen GaN modules (higher is possible but unlikely for anyone except the USA and China) that we can expect to run at around 30W limit each, the output is definitely going to be far weaker than Captor-E much less APG-83.
This would be a cool drone
>>64544892Murad AESA installed on KE and F-16 won't have same capabilities. This has been argued in Turkish Defence forums for years now, F-16 has a weaker electrical and cooling support, due to cramped design and simply being old. Murad installed on KE will have full electric support, better thermal management and full cooling capability. Some were saying it's useless to outfit F-16 with new radars because the plane is not suitable for that.And no, the KE has more space for the radar than F-16. Pic from 2023, KE prototype 2 flying side by side with F-16
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>>64544972With a stated ~600 mile combat radius on the kizilelma while having a max takeoff weight of around 13,200lbs, I would be EXTREMELY doubtful that it has much extra interior room for extra cooling over be F-16 as it is almost guaranteed that the interior space is heavily taken up by fuel.
>>64544873>Have they performed any air-to-air launch testingYes. JFC, I live near one of the bases where they were tested. Is that a question you need to ask? If the US DoD, the most overfunded organization in the history of man, performs tests on things before deployment? What do you think they've been doing with them all this time?>Don't have a dedicated radar or sensor suite>In a self-piloted droneHow do you think it identifies targets and swaps objectives on the fly without a radar or a sensor suite? You do know these are meant to be independent aircraft, right? That they're able to operate without a human telling them what to do beyond the initial activation?
>>64545010another picture from 2023, with KE prototype No.2 flying together with F-16The radar compartment located directly ahead of the air intakes. It has a significantly larger volume than the F-16’s radome.>>64545017There is no open source out there indicating any air to air launch by american drones. So, you need to back up your claims.
meanwhile, the cucks in europe cant even decide on who is and isnt allowed to co-develop powerpoint slides about manned fighters they plan&expect to deliver proto-types Q4 2032
>>64545127EU has some backwards regulations for UAVs. It's impossible to get a permission to fly some tactical UAV because these are considered too dangerous due to the crash rates.
>>64545213>It's impossible to get a permissionlmao europe is so unimaginably pathetic its unreal
>>64545219>regulations for UAVimagine you have startup of ~100 qualified people trying to make some tactical UCAV in EU. half of these people will need to work on certification and regulations, essentially not producing anything.
>>64545237>imagine you have startup of ~100 qualified people trying to make some tactical UCAV in EU. half of these people will need to work on certification and regulations, essentially not producing anything.
>>64544849I wasn't asking for excuses you annoying piece of shit, just stating the facts.
>>64542771>USAAustralia, the US is currently not part of the Ghost Bat program. Boeing Australia and BAE Australia are leading the project, which are basically the restructured forms of multiple previous military contractors in Australia.So if anything that's probably making the seething in Turkey worse. If it was the USA they could at least shrug about it being the world's biggest military spender doing its thing. But it's a middle power instead, someone they probably feel like they should be able to compete with more.
