>does nothing>winshttps://www.armyrecognition.com/news/aerospace-news/2025/pakistan-announces-new-sale-agreement-for-its-jf-17-fighter-jet-during-dubai-airshow-2025how did they do it bros?
Because the jeets are even more incompetent than the pakis. Fuck mudhammed by they way, that pedophilic illiterate charlatan.
>>64543751Indian military officers are only hampered by shit equipment, often forced upon the services by the government due to corruption, other than that Indian military is motivated and led by highly competent and talented officers, who often have to substitute bad equipment and logistics with military genius
>>64543689>shills for china eternally>doesn’t work and china still losesLol
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>>64543793kek
>>64543793"Indian...military genius", no anon. Appreciate the effort but no.
>>64543689that smoke plum in the back ground is a crashed Tejas>>64543810rent free
>>64543793This has to be bait. I've seen damn near similar posts in the other threads up on the board rn.
>>64543793>why did you turn off the fuel>no uYeah I'm sure that it's the hardware and not the pilots.
>>64543810SAAAAAAAARRR
>>64543996yeah sounds like bait to me
>>64544026>chinkshill pulls out the>”y-you made fun of china, y-you must be indian” copeI know you’re trying to weaponize our hatred of indians against white people, it just doesn’t work because you’re not very clever.
>>64544191>jeet pulls out the>"b-but muh chayna!!11!" cope/k/ will still make fun of you as the one people even the chinks can kick around. Seethe mroe about it.
>>64543689Does the JF-17 still use a Russian engine?
>>64544256Depends on what the customer wants. Pakistan are using Russian RD-93MA engines for their Block III planes (Indians are butthurt about this as well), but Chinese WS-13IPE engines can be fitted
>>64544293As a TZD moderate, I feel bittersweet about Chinese engines starting to be able to replace Russian engine exports in the global market.
>>64544314They still can't really though. The RD-93s are still a better option and Russia will be doing everything they can to make them an attractive option for JF-17 customers because it's like the only area where Russia's aviation industry isn't completely washed after their misadventures in Ukraine and the obvious fact that China now makes better airframes, munitions, avionics and possibly radars as well.
>>64544333>The RD-93s are still a better optionFor how much longer though? I know that engine technology is THE most difficult part of fighter jet R&D, but surely China has been shoveling money and human capital into that field?
>>64544354China is focusing its effort on big boi engine (the F110, F119 and AL-41 territory) so medium engines like RD93 or M88 isn't high up there on the priority list
>>64544361Whatever happened with the WS-13 and its derivatives?
>>64543793My fucking sides!Someone post the AMA with the US naval officer that spent 5 days on an Indian warship
>>64544438>How bad was it?15+ years old and they looked like nobody had done any maintenance in the last 5+ years. Their ROs were in such poor shape that despite having a greater fresh water production capacity than my ship by several thousand gallons, they were still on water hours.>How do they runs things differently then the USN?Their engineering practices were abysmal. No undershirts, no steel-toed boots - they wore sandals - no hearing protection in their engineering spaces. No lagging (sound dampening material) in any space. No electrical safety whatsoever. No operational risk management. No concept of safety of navigation. Absolutely did not adhere to rules of the road. They more or less did not have any hard-copy written procedures for any exercise or event, at all. They had no concept of the coded fleet tactical system that US coalition forces and allies utilize (they literally made it up as they went along, and when I tried to interject and explain to them how it worked, they ignored me). When I arrived onboard they thought I was a midshipman and treated me as such. I had to be frank and explain that I was a commissioned officer and that yes, I stood officer on the deck onboard my ship and was a qualified surface warfare officer. They don't entrust their people with any responsibility until they are very senior Lieutenants (O-3s) and junior Lieutenant Commanders (O-4s). At this point in the US Navy there are literally guys commanding ships, and these guys couldn't even be trusted to handle a radio circuit.
>>64544438>>64544733>I read 'Indian Navy' and I immediately pictured a ridiculously crowded boat, with everyone living(?) in squalor. Is that at all the case?Actually, yes. Before I came onboard I was told to bring my own roll of toilet paper, if that alludes to the conditions that they live in at all. There was actually toilet paper aboard their ship. It was thinner than one-ply, if that's possible. I might as well have been wiping my ass with my bare hand.After a particularly wet small boat ride over to their ship, I was dying to get out of my sea water-drenched uniform and into a fresh one (unfortunately, my entire bag was completely soaked to include my shirts, underwear, spare uniform, phone, camera, and my roll of toilet paper)... I walked into their "officer's head" (their are extremely, extremely hierarchical and classist, even from a military standpoint) and there was a good 2" of * * * * -water sloshing around back and forth across the deck and an obscure, probably live wire with it's end wrapped in electrical tape non-surreptitiously protruding from the wall. They have an entire "class" of civilians onboard. I still don't know what to make of them. I think they were some sort of cheap labor, but everybody onboard referred to them as slaves. As in, they used the word "slave". Anyways, the quarters those guys lived in was awful, it was basically a big open space partitioned with a sheet. They slept on a steel deck with a simple blanket and a pillow. Good times. Their enlisted guys didn't have it much better. Their berthing was infested with rats (a guy from my ship swore up and down that he saw a rat that was no-* * * * the length of his arm) and another US sailor from another ship came back covered in bed-bug sores. Dude looked like he had fucking chicken pocks.