Of running a suppressor during engagements with enemy forces if it's just gonna overheat and melt anyway, you might as well never use suppressors anywhere again, seeing as how you're always gonna need more than a couple of shots to engage an enemy squad and that heats up your supressor.Quite frankly the only time you should use a suppressor is when you're playing with a .22 lr, that won't melt a vanilla ice cream on a hot summer day.
Because the De Lisle was designed for covert operations where you're forced to shoot a guy instead of slitting his throat. It wasn't designed for storming anything, it was designed for 'oh fuck that guy finished pissing sooner than we thought and don't want to be heard'. There is a reason very few were actually made, because they weren't designed for mass combat. Suppressors on Stens and M1A1's were more common place (though louder).
>>64544559I don't give a shit about the Delisle I'm talking about modern weapon systems of a higher caliber which are fully automatic.It seems like despite advancements in technology, you still can't fit a suppressor onto a machinegun with subsonic rounds and clear a room full of bad guys out without the suppressor failing on you because it's MELTING.
You don't show up on the minimap when using a suppressor.
>>64544569>I don't give a shit about the DelisleThen I'm not sure why you used an image of it instead of a separate suppressor. But yes, there is a reason why suppressors are not standard equipment for your average grunt.
>>64544579I should have said "pic not related">>64544572I know, it still overheats and melts though.
>>64544547the engagement for those is supposed to only last one or two shots. it's a surprise cock fag weapon. same with the hush puppys.
>>64544559>suppressed M1A1Can I see one?
>>64544569>you still can't fit a suppressor onto a machinegun with subsonic rounds and clear a room full of bad guys out without the suppressor failing on you because it's MELTING.false
>>64544717Just looks like any other Thompson but with a tööb.
>>64544569Modern cans used in the applications which you describe, will not melt til LONG after the barrel and gas system have turned to vapor.4AL16 Titanium and Gullited 304 SS is far more robust than what you're assuming silencer parts are made of.
>>64544994It doesn't heal though and is very difficult to repair, every shot damages the suppressor, that's the thing, once even a little bit of heat damage is sustained, that damage stays until it is repaired.
>>64545159just say your a noguns idiot with no practical understanding of how things work and stop making garbage threads, moron. that's not how it works at all and you're retarded
>>64545159>It doesn't heal though and is very difficult to repairOh my God, I just realised modern weapons expend munitions, too. Quick, we need to go back to using slings so our men can resupply in the field with nothing but natural cordage and stones.
>>64545159oh fuck no, you mean someone might have to unscrew a muzzle device and thread a new one one? Shit, that'll take forever!
>>64544547Less hearing damage is nice.
>>64544547Suppressors made in this century don't break after a few rounds like they do in MGS games.
>>64545159You're, kind of retarded.You're never going to reach the transformational state of the components before the barrel fails, you amazingly and apparently irredeemably ignorant noguns flipperbaby.
>>64544547>Of running a suppressor during engagements with enemy forcesIt's an ambush weapon typically for sentry removal or killing dogs, lights, cameras etc and pointles unless it is in a closed bolt firing subsonics>>64544547>Quite frankly the only time you should use a suppressor is when you're playing with a .22 lrTrue and since on dedicated guns that are setup right they can put ten shots into a dollar coin at 100 yards that's pretty much all you need. All subsonics hsve a high arc making range estimation on the fly nearly impossible IRL beyond 150 yards or so because the shot will be too many MOA above your target.IRL 22s silenced are used more for this role in warfare than any other weapon for sneeky peaky shit usually based off some standard biathalon or other decent accuracy rifle. The Deliss was cool and gud but if you shoot someone in the head or spine the jobs a good one one way or the other. They had a lot of enfields, it made sense.>>64545159The situations these are used in, probing sentries at temporary airfields or whatever means you are not sitting there magdumping, you are going for a perfect cold bore shot to start with and then maybe three or four more max and that's it. You are not there to get in a firefight with one. You entire idea of how silenced weapons are used is wrong. They have only been doctrine in places like france, russia, finland etc, not the US so much in anything I have read. Much more common in Europe.Dogs barking?Guy at roadblock?Sentry on one end of a bridge?Reservist on a railway line on rear duty patrol etc etcThey have their place but it's limited, better than going in with a knife or garotte in situations where there is no shadow, sabotage operations or eliminating enemy observation posts. In all of these situations there will be a team member who is a designated small bore marksman and he'll have another weapon for any firefight. They don't just have to be silent, they have to be very accurate
>>64544569>I'm talking about modern weapon systems of a higher caliber which are fully automatic.Ah, stupid soldier of fortune tier shit. I see.
ExampleSome rusisan junk"The .22 LR SV-99 sniper rifle was developed as a precision small-caliber weapon for special forces snipers to silently engage enemy personnel and other targets at ranges up to 100 meters, as well as for training purposes."Most nations juts use good quality bolt action 22s like I say, biathlon rifles that have been purpose built and the only person actually using one for sneeky peeky shit professionally will have put 100,000 rounds through them at targets from 75 to 125M and can shoot a fly off a target with one at 100M on a cold bore shot and probably have a background of competitive 3P shooting or biathalon
ExampleSome rusisan junk"The .22 LR SV-99 sniper rifle was developed as a precision small-caliber weapon for special forces snipers to silently engage enemy personnel and other targets at ranges up to 100 meters, as well as for training purposes."Most nations juts use good quality bolt action 22s like I say, biathlon rifles that have been purpose built and the only person actually using one for sneeky peeky shit professionally will have put 100,000 rounds through them at targets from 75 to 125M and can shoot a fly off a target with one at 100M on a cold bore shot and probably have a background of competitive 3P shooting or biathalonThere is literally no point to doing this unless the gun is very accurate and completely silenced which means closed bolt and subsonic and 22s are very accurate so they fit the bill. It's never getting into a firefight at all that is the whole fucking point.
>>64544547>if it's just gonna overheat and melt anyway,If you have dumped so many rounds through a silened bolt action 22 that the suppressor melts you've already blown your mission so badly that you made the wall of fame.
