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The 14th century gambeson made of pure silk worn by Edward the Black Prince, he wore this under his maille and plate armor
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It probably looked a lot nice 800 years ago.
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>>64545705
>gambeson
>wore this under his maille and plate armor
Then it's not gambeson. Medievals specifically did not call under-armor cloth "gambeson." "gambeson" was something that was worn on its own.
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>>64545744
yes it was
you're probably thinking of names like arming jack which didn't become a thing until the mid-1400s, these had ties on them for adding plate and maille embroided directly onto the joints plate couldn't cover
there was also an 'uparmored' version of the gambeson made with a thicker exterior that could be worn on its own by infantry
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>>64545820
There is not a single historical document that talks about "gambesons" being worn under armor.
"Gambesons" were ALWAYS armor worn independently.
The whole medieval notion of a gambeson was by the definition of the word an armor worn on its own.
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>>64545705
That is a jupon/surcote and it was worn over everything
> he wore this under his maille and plate armor
Last I bothered reading about this, the evidence is strong in favor of NO gambeson (whatever the fuck this even means anyways since since this word just get usdd for everything) under plate or mail, specialy under plate the further you move into the late middle ages.



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