pistols became gay once we stopped firing them one-handed
>>64547366We definitely lost something when we lost the WWII/early Cold War era "I'm gonna shoot it the way I want to shoot it and you can fuck off about it" attitude about it.>am I holding it right?>is this the one the other ladies got?>I hope it matches my purse
>>64547389chicken wing stances are still the most effective for long distance shooting from the offhand, especially if you have a really angled grip
>>64547366Show us your one handed handgun groups OP>u-uh I-I don't a-actually shoot guns>or own themyeah
>>64547415>t. deathgrips his .32 with both hands to kill the paper robbers
>>64547451lmao confirmed hit a nerve
>thinly veiled man-candy thread
>>64547452Keep shooting, you almost got him.
>>64547366true enough
>>64547395What makes them effective? Intuitively I'd think they would be worse, since you can't brace your right elbow against your body to stabilize
>>64547930Forms a definite "pocket" for the buttstock to rest.
>>64547366I think everyone should train one handed because the type of situations you will use a pistol for are so random and unpredictable it is utter folly to assume you will always have both hands ready. Things like>shooting while hugging cover>shooting around a corner>shooting while laying flat on the ground>shooting while being grabbed or injured>shooting while carrying something else
>>64547947that's retarded, when have you ever had trouble holding a rifle stock against your shoulder? that's like having trouble holding your foot against the ground.
This >>64548416 poster is exactly right.I full believe that point shooting, shooting from the hip, one-handed shooting, and shooting with your non-dominant hand should be practiced. I also think that if anyone carries a sidearm he should be prepared to have someone attempt to wrestle it away from him., and should be at least somewhat practiced in combatives.If you carry a tourniquet you should be able to accept that your arm may become disabled.
>>64547930>>64548443The chicken wing helps stabilize the rifle horizontally.
Ill >>64548447 clarify that training should still primarily focus on two-handed shooting and drawing (from a ready position), and that the sort of person that goes to the range once a month or less should focus on that and only that.
>>64547451lmao
>>64548416>>64548447Agreed to all this, I'd also add in a bit of shooting while backpedaling or strafing since there's a good chance you're gonna try to move to cover while firing. It's never a bad idea to at least familiarize yourself with other styles of handgun shooting, if nothing else it spices up the usually fairly dull static two handed target shooting
>>64548449by completely removing the natural vertical stability of the trigger hand. Personally I do about a 45 degree angle with both arms when standing, that gives me the best stability. Chicken winging the right arm makes it worse. If I'm shooting for accuracy and I have a couple seconds to change position though, I'm going to sit down and put my elbows on my knees.
And people also used to shoot cup and saucer but then people went>oh this is retarded and doesn't do anythingWhich why /k/ommandos on /tg/ sperged when Games Workshop released a Space Marine with a bolt pistol (heavy) cup and saucer aiming.
>>64548416Check this out, interview with a guy who got in 14 gunfights, iirc he was a stakeout squad member?He agrees with what you said, says he often found himself shooting one-handed because his other hand was off doing something elsehttps://youtu.be/Yd3v_fssabI
>>64548785Personally I have better results with it. The longest successful shot I ever made was with a 7mm Mauser held in that position.
>>64547366
>>64547366>pistols became gay once we stopped firing them one-handedThat's just like, your opinion, man.
>>64547366Pussytols are self defence weapons designed to be fired within literal spitting distance. If you have to actively aim a pissytol other than pointing it towards the target, your during eat wrung. If you have to squint, you need a rifle.
>>64549519They didn’t hit shit
>>64547451Confirmed noguns
>>64548416For sure. I try to shoot a mag right and left handed every range session. I have an IR simulator that I do a lot of one handed practice with. I think it’s helpful. Shows how much slower you have to be with one hand to keep accuracy.
>>64548443When have you ever had trouble holding your elbow in the air?
>>64549519Sometimes I wonder if there was so much melee fighting just because they sucked ass at shooting pistols
>>64549519>that guy with the hand in his pocket
>>64551471Dude, watch out! It almost flew out of your hand!
>>64547366Hollywood just started showing everyone doing it in the 90s, never once was it seen before then. That's the only real reason everyone insists you use two hands for the machine clearly designed for only one hand.>DUDE! NO. DON'T DO THAT. BOTH HANDS. YOU HAVE TO DO IT IN THE MOVIES LIKE THIS I SAW THIS ON LAW AND ORDER IN 2002 THIS IS HOW IT'S ACTUALLY DONE.If everyone is just going off what their favorite movie/TV show from 30 years ago was, or whatever their 80IQ Mexican instructor told them during the GWOT, I'm just gonna hold it however I want.>muh groupingOh noooo what will the ladies at the range think :(
It's impossible to convince people who idolize the comp shooter/sport shooters shilling shit that they are wrong when it comes to a gunfight. History has shown again and again when pistols are used in a gunfight he who draws first and hits first wins. There is nothing faster than quick draw shooting one handed from the hip. And there are plenty of people who can do it reliably
>>64551973So do you practice from the holster?
>>64551975>t. gets killed by an illegal alien he bumped into in the grocery store who draws first
>>64547415lmao gottem>>64547456obviously
>>64551975Do I? Absolutely. Do I post pictures of a shot timer that prove nothing and pictures of a pistol shoved in my belt pointed at my dick on an Armenian bread baking forum hoping newbs will give me some of that sweet cred? No, because I'm not an attention starved basement dweller. I can draw from an issue drop leg and fire hitting a four inch circle from the hip. Every time. Faster than you by a lot if I believe your dumb ass shot timer pic. Cowboy single action is can unload before you even fire.
>>64551935>still doesn’t deny being noguns Don’t talk shit to my big iron
>>64547366>silent generation was one handing fuddy-five at 50 yards>zoomies can barely hit a target at all at 10 yards and complain about 9mm snappy recoilWhere did we go wrong bros?
>>64551960> never once was it seen before thenAhem https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weaver_stancePost pistol and groups.
>>64551973> There is nothing faster than quick draw shooting one handed from the hip.Neat. Show us your holster you use to hip fire.
>>64552030> silent generation was one handing fuddy-five at 50 yardsNot going to defend zoomers too much but shooting at and hitting are two very, very different things. Pistol marksmanship back then was atrocious on average.
>>64552044The upper human torso is a huge target. At gunfight ranges it's almost impossible to miss. Accuracy is overrated in a pistol fight. Fire first and don't stop till they drop.
>>64552033I don't care what some boomer in the 70s thought and I'm going to do what I want. Post your balls so I know you have them.
>>64552036It's winter. You want to see the inside of my jacket pocket? If I'm facing you, it's pointing at you.
>>64552059>yet again refuses to post gun and groupsseethe all you want zoomieyuro the only thing we can hear is you shouting over and over again "I'M A NOGUNS WITH STRONG OPINIONS" :^)
>>64552059>born in before the depression>stance became popularized in shooting competitions in the 50s>still doesn’t post a gunYou can triple down on being retarded. I know you have it in you
>>64552058Cool. That doesn’t relate to anything I said. Pistol gunfight ranges aren’t 50 yards. >Accuracy is overrated in a pistol fight.Says an inaccurate shooter who doesn’t shoot much
>>64551982>whats that, you try hard?>sorry buddy, my media literacy says the tryhard always loses!
>>64552069That’s not hip firing and that’s shifting the goalposts too. But yes. Go ahead and show us your winter coat with your gun in the pocket.
>>64552069paul harrel ruined an entire generation of CCers
>>64552075Accuracy is overrated. While you take the time you feel is irrelevant to aim the hip shooter will have hit you in the gut, the leg and the lung. Accuracy is irrelevant as long as you can hit the target
>>64552071>>64552072>t. noballz
>>64552078It is hip fire. Technically is supported hip fire. You want to see my issue drop leg? My shoulder rig? My cowboy quick draw? No. Now sperg out and say a bunch of nonsense that does not negate my point, or support yours. Fucking red tits migrant chan dipshit.
pistols aren't meant to be accurate. if your groups are good then you're too close or too slow
>>64552096DUDE. Don't you realize muggers are REQUIRED by law to stand still while you draw and get into the perfect two-handed position?
Bunch of comp shooting high capacity low recoil timer fags couldn't beat a little girl in a dress using a single action in a gunfight. Please go on about thumb position and pushing through ben. I sure do enjoy listening to a guy who hits girls post anonymously on an Indonesian cat love board.
>>64552084>>64552092>>64552094Post a single gun you own.
>>64552139No. Post your balls.
>>64552109Does she walk around ready to strike like that or do I have to wait til she hip thrusts before I can start?
>>64552084>t. Point shooting troon
>>64552058People act like theyre targetting the heart or lungs in a high stress adrenaline pumped shootout because theyre calm shooting at paper or running through larp courses
Isn't competitive pistol shooting always done one-handed?
>>64552180Do you use competition pistols for anything other than competition? No, stupid.
>>64552109were doing this now huh?
>>64552109Is this the T-pose of the gun slinging world?
>>64552157She could be eating dinner and stand up and outshoot you you pasty skinnyfat dick holster retard.
>>64552198>juke to the right>draw and Mozambique >sit down and finish eating my tendies
>>64552224You don't have time to juke faggot. You are already dead. She reliably shoots something half the size of your head faster than you can do anything at all. Seethe and cope dipshit. You followed the fads trying to be cool and ended up being less prepared for an actual gunfight than a 70s beat cop or a frontier teenage boy. The larp is hard in the pistol world.
>>64552023Nice. I'm so jelly of muricans sometimes
>>64552109>one noguns faggot posting his fantasy FTFY
>>64552023Am I supposed to take a picture of my guns for every single one of the ~15 times per hour I get challenged to do so? You didn't even post your hand or timestamp, so your gunzpost is irrelevant and fake anyway. There, now I can go on with my day.
>>64552235>needs to stand up and pose like a retard>nO tImEWrong, simp.
>>64547366which is ironic because the one type of pistol that's still always shot one handed are the very gay looking .22 olympic-style target pistols
>>64547366Also people didn't give a fuck about reddit finger back then.
>>64552343Yes, people did used to be much dumber.
>>64552295>still can’t post a single image of a gun he owns
>>64547366Just start shooting your pistol one handed, no one is stopping you. I shoot pistols one ha ded all the time, it's fun and it makes me feel like an old school target shooter.
>>64552295Sounds like a you problem. Have you tried not being retarded?
>>64552435It just spices up static target shooting, that and shooting one handed. I mean I understand the purpose in two handed, accurate magdumps into a man sized target at 15 yards, it's a realistic way to use your pistol but I swear you feel like a god hitting a clay pigeon at 25-30 yards one handed even if that's not all that impressive
>>64552563*weak handedKids, don't drink and post
>Being proud of gun stances used in the war where the good guys lostGood news for you, they let your sort go on public parades these days.
Just look at police bodycam videos. Most shootouts are done one handed without proper stance. Most of the grip "science" is BS from people who feel the need to make them look knowledgeable or are trying to sell you some LARP training course. You just need to have your sights properly adjusted and aligned with the target at the moment the bullet fires. That's it. Don't believe me ? Put your pistol on a stand and pull the trigger from a string. It will shoot straight without any grip at all.
>>64552343>reddit fingerYou’re an idiot.
>>64552295>~15 times per hour I get challenged to do soYou gotta have a lot of shit takes and be real retarded. Maybe you should stay on that søychan thing.
>>64552109Fucking hell that pose is killing me
>>64552295Post guns
>>64552245It’s the one thing you really should be jealous of. Its a bright spot in our land of shit.
>>64552109>retard doesn't know quick draw shooting uses literal capgun loads with zero recoil and almost no energy>he thinks he's gonna put down an angry groid with spastic shit like thisDo test out your theory anon. Get back at us about how it turns out.
>>64553630Oh yeah? Well:
>>64555032Turned out great. Of course we use wax bullets in the comp. We use live ammo on the coin toss and challenges. Sounds like you are a bit angry. You should be. You paid for an optic, a pistol, and a bunch of other go faster gear and training aids that someone will pick up off the ground when you lose to a fool with a high point and a drug problem.
>>64555954>Wedounbt
>>64548416Spot on. The overemphasis on shooting handguns two-handed takes away from a number of their realistic use cases.
>>64556007have you ever even practiced from-the-hip point shooting with a real gun? or do you think every defensive shooting is going to be you getting tackled and shooting a gun in the gut?
>>64556064If you read the post I responded to you wouldn't have had to concoct a single contrived scenario as some gotcha
>>64555954>weShow us your cowboy gun anon.
>>64548761>if nothing else it spices up the usually fairly dull static two handed target shootingThat's why I started practicing those things. The pursuit of speed gets boring if I'm just standing still, and even if I were shooting at an indoor range, getting good with one handed shooting just makes two hands feel like easy mode.
you aren't practicing you're just having fun. no one is watching you shoot, no one is critiquing you and you aren't changing how you shoot.theres nothing wrong with having fun shooting but please stop thinking you're superior.
>>64556902I have fun honing my skills and getting better at shooting
>>64556902You can improve without needing external critique and you can practice while having fun. If practice is a banal act to you then you've clearly reached the apex of skill in that particular style of shooting and should move on to learning another style to expand your repertoire. Or keep practicing the one kick a thousand times, you do you
>>64556919>You can improve without needing external critiqueim not even being facetious when i say this, no you can't, not with pistol shooting.
