>Norway has removed KNDS Deutschland’s EuroPULS from its Long Range Precision Firing Systems competition,leaving U.S. HIMARS & South Korea’s Chunmoo as the remaining contenders. The move reshapes a major NATO procurement and adds tension to the German-Norwegian defense partnershipKraut bros...What went wrong?
>>64547367I'm not your bro buddy.
>>64547382>I'm not your bro buddy.Are you gay?
>>64547367Nothing? EuroPULS is jewish. GMARS is better.
Forsvaret har jo allerede hk 416, så de satans Tyskerne får nesten bare ta seg en bolle, tafatte apekatter som de er.
>>64547367>What went wrong?Irredeemable shelllessness even even by Gayrapean standards
>>64547382He's not your buddy, pal.
>>64547367It's Germany so probably a combo of:>precision engineering designed to work flawlessly in a carefully controlled testing environment >user controls and interface require a 500 page manual to explain basic operations>all repairs must be signed off and supervised, if not carried out, by KNDS technicians otherwise all maintenance contracts will be voided - this includes field repairs and basic upkeep>full of low-production proprietary systems with no allowance for tech transfers or guaranteed supply of spare parts>political considerations of future German governments affect future procurementsAnd in true German engineering fashion:>reloading requires removing the transmission first
>EuroPULS >look inside>Israeli
>>64547445He's not your pal, friend.
>buy american weapon>aim it at invading russian>potus seethes on twitter and stops supplying you with ammo
>>64547421Grøt :DDD
>>64547501That's why they should be buying Korean instead.
>>64547466It's israeli, so none of what you said has any roots in reality.
>>64547520based worstkoreans not giving a fuck who you kill with their weapons.
>>64547520Corporate wants you to uhhh
I'm more interested in what the froggies will choose. They have the same three choices but they've been very vocally anti-jew, anti-American, and anti-Korean. At least the norwegians haven't made enemies out of the three.I want to see which they choose and how the supplier will fuck the frogs over.
>>64547547too bad burgers won't sell you over half those missiles. oh well, their loss.
>>64547557Not even to our best Norwegian buds? It's probably because Russia would pitch a pitched fit if we sold one of their neighbors the PrSM
>>64547552The frogs will cave in and buy Polish version of K239 Chunmoo, the Homar-K. Since they are buying only 24 units until the newly developed local MLRS is developed, and the only likely alternative is an Indian MLRS but it's not European. HIMARS is a non-starter due to the anti-American sentiment and kill switch issues.
Should have bought the superior one instead.
>>64547784Too bad GMARS hasn't even completed development and it's tied to American IP just like HIMARS. I would assume it would cost double the HIMARS too.
>>64547796>I would assume it would cost double the HIMARS too.Are you poor?
>>64547571We should team up with our retarded Swedish neighbors and make our own. We've already got plenty of experience making launchers, missiles and detection/targeting systems and they know how to make vehicles.
>>64547367why are you screenshotting your own tweets?
>>64547803>Are you poor?No, but I just value cost effectiveness.
>>64547868https://www.hartpunkt.de/kauft-norwegen-raketenartillerie-in-suedkorea/Krauts in full damage control.
>>64547481I'm not your friend, guy.
>>64547520Is "practice rocket" nerf? It looks fun.
>>64547367PULS is Israeli so not that surprising. It’s also the most expensive of the bunch and delivery times are bad.
>>64547951I'm not your guy, buddy!
>>64547421Fucking fjældaber, køb nu europæisk. Vi gider ikke have burger og chingchong pis.
possibly not the end of the story yet.>The Purpose Universal Launching System (PULS) multiple rocket launcher, from which the EuroPULS is derived and with which KNDS entered the race, was originally developed by the Israeli defense contractor Elbit Systems and can fire a wide range of artillery rockets with a range of 12 to 300 km. In Central Europe, Germany, the Netherlands, and Denmark have so far decided to procure the EuroPULS. In the German Armed Forces, the system is designated MARS 3. Rockets for the weapon system are to be manufactured locally, for example by Diehl Defence, in order to ensure supply. In addition, other essential components will be manufactured in Europe. >This year, KNDS Germany, Elbit Systems, and the Norwegian defense contractor Kongsberg successfully launched a Naval Strike Missile (NSM) developed by Kongsberg from a EuroPULS launcher for the first time. Coastal artillery units, among others, could be equipped with such a configuration. According to experts, the technical parameters are also in place to integrate the long-range anti-ship missile developed by Norway and Germany, known as 3SM Tyrfing, into the system in the long term. However, if the Norwegian Armed Forces decide not to procure EuroPULS, this is likely to affect the attractiveness of such a solution.
>However, whether purchasing missile artillery systems in Korea is the right choice for Norway also appears to be a matter of debate in the Scandinavian country. Last Wednesday, coinciding with the handover of the new Leopards to the German and Norwegian armed forces, Norway's largest business newspaper, Dagens Næringsliv, published an article stating that Kongsberg and Aker – one of Norway's most important industrial groups – had written to the Norwegian prime minister and other members of the government on the matter. According to the article, the companies recommend the purchase of EuroPULS, partly to strengthen the national defense industry. If the purchase goes ahead, Kongsberg could possibly supply missiles and fire control solutions, while Aker could build the launcher and take care of maintenance – overall, a large package for Norwegian industry.>According to Norwegian media reports, the Ministry of Defense has not yet commented on the procurement program and the participants. According to well-informed sources in Norway, the budget proposal for the coming year does not include the topic of missile artillery. However, this could be the case when the revised long-term defense plan is presented. This is expected in the first few months of the coming year. The reason for the revision is apparently that insufficient funds have been allocated for the ambitious armament plans.>It now remains to be seen whether KNDS Germany will be excluded from the process or whether it will still be included in the European card. Germany is clearly very interested in this, as Defense Minister Pistorius has made clear.
>>64548508>>64548520>lose the bidding>will revert the decision by political means and lobbyingWhy are krauts always like this?>>64548127Homar-K is produced in Europe, Hans.
>>64548534>don't address anything quoted in the article>just seethe about the fact there is anything German mentionedwhy don't you fuck off to a board with flags you annoying Polish faggot?
>>64547367>Kraut bros...What went wrong?Israel. Its Elbit product made in Germany under license. That means Israel gets their cut of shekels, something that is increasingly unacceptable in European politics.
>>64548538>don't address anything quoted in the articleIt's literally what it's indicating though.>immediately start foaming over polesYeah, that checks out your identity.
>>64548534>Why are krauts always like this?Stay mad.
>>64548590>It's literally what it's indicating though.ah, because Kongsberg and Aker are German now?
>>64548105Im not your buddy, bucko!>>64547367SHEEEEEIIIIẞEEEEE
They've seen the performance of HIMARS and went with that? What's the issue?
>>64547421>>64548127>>64547509Speak English you oilgargling fucks.
>>64548895it's just a launcher, it's all the same shitwhat matters is the missiles
>>64548771Was losing 34% of the territory part of the plan?
>>64548534>Why are krauts always like this?Meanwhile america threatens canada with trade war if they don't buy F35.
>>64548590>>64548921You can expel our people, but you can't uncull the poles we got rid of, or unrape your nurses.
>>64548931>weak minded krautard desperately trying to brag about his nazi war criminals who were hanged like dogs after the warKek, like father, like son.
>>64548943A small price to pay for the eternal damage we did to the polish soul. Or probably the russian one for that matter (assuming russians have souls, that one seems unclear).
>>64547907>>64548534>Germany mentioned>Autistic sczreaching commences
>>64547367I hope they're not that stupid to rely on americans.
>>64548945Like the rape spree happened after the Russians had taken Berlin and the mongrels that were born subsequently? Truly magnificent.>>64548950More like>kraut autism mentioned>immediately assume it's polack postingLike pottery.
>>64548102Being dependent on israel is almost as bad as being dependent on the US. Europes muslims will eventually force us to stop supporting israel through terrorism. Unless we want to get rid of our muslims (and I would wholeheartedly approve if we did) we'll have to take a more neutral stance on the whole israel/palestine matter.
>>64548962You are polish, so the assumption was clearly correct.
>>64547479Unironically this is the reason.Norway is shit scared of having anything at all to do with israel, so any type of weapon system procured, can't have any relation to Israel. If that german system is developed in cooperation with Israel, Norway won't have anything to do with it.Most people don't realize just how strong the anti-Israel sentiment is around here.
>>64548964no it isn't you retard. Israel is far more willing to agree to license production. And your fantasy about Muslims being a problem for military procurement in Europe is delusional.
>>64548966>You are polishOh, do you have a proof?>so the assumption was clearly correct.Only if you could prove you're right though.
>>64548975you're embarrassing
>>64548982>hurr you're polack b-because...BECAUSE ONLY POOLACKS HATE DAS DEUTSCHLAND!!!>y...yuo embarrassing!Here's (You).
>>64548993ok, can you fuck off to your home board now?
>>64548993>ONLY POOLACKS HATE DAS DEUTSCHLANDMore or less correct. The rest just slightly dislike us at best. Russians maybe, depending on what the state propaganda said lately.
>>64548999>p-please leave me alone...No.
>>64549001>More or less correct. The rest just slightly dislike us at best.Kek, krauts are such narcissistic cunts aren't they? That's why they're on the verge of getting kicked out of the FCAS consortium.
>>64549013I do get the impression that most people in the world either don't care or have a positive opinion of germany. Many have minor issues, as we have minor issues with them, but this utter vitriol that comes out whenever germany is mentioned I only see coming from poles. So yeah.
>>64549044>but this utter vitriol that comes out whenever germany is mentioned I only see coming from poles.Too bad I'm neither a pole nor have relatives who are polish, kek. Keep wondering.
>>64549047>I only hate germans because I am mentally ill
>>64549044Also, krauts have every right to suffer from the shit they're getting thrown at, so be prepared.
>>64549049>goddamn polacks why won't you get out of my head!Do you see what others don't see?
>>64548967>Most people don't realize just how strong the anti-Israel sentiment is around here.Why is Norway so anti-Israel? As an Irishman, I understand my own country's obsession with the place due to our anti-colonial history, and why Spain is also due to its lefty government, but why Norway? It's not like there's historical Catholicism there for anti-Zionism.
>>64549148>Why is Norway so anti-Israel?That's the default state
>>64547592The local low cost Turgis et Gaillard HIMARS rip off has been in involved too but the DGA remained undecisive about it.If it does the work I don't know why it is not choose.
>>64549183Pic related
>>64548590>surrender immediately>ends up with more soilheh nothing personel
>>64549209
>>64549148>but why Norway?They have been passed back on forth between Denmark and Sweden for a thousand years.
>>64547367>Kraut bros...What went wrong?Germans can't deliver it in time and all of their shit is hyper-expensive.
>>64547520Poles were right.
>>64547530The truck? No, RheinmetallThe launcher? No, KNDSThe missiles? Depends
>>64548967>Norway is shit scared of having anything at all to do with israel, so any type of weapon system procured, can't have any relation to Israel. If that german system is developed in cooperation with Israel, Norway won't have anything to do with itExcept for stuff like the F-35, the new frigate, the new MBT, the upcoming CV90 procurement, the Dingo, NVG's etc etc....
>>64547367wait a minutelet me get this rightthey removed the ONE system that can fire literally every missile be it russian american or israeli (europuls is just puls in the end) and they let himars it?thats stupid beyond belief which is so norway
>>64547367>A Maroccan twitterhandle called Valhalla talking about breakdowns in european weapons procurementWhere have i seen this before?
Despite the seething in this thread Germany has secured a fuckton of defense contracts in the last years and will keep doing so
You have to be a retard to buy American as a European country with the current traitors in the administration.
>>64550497https://www.armyrecognition.com/news/army-news/2025/norway-chooses-u-s-himars-and-south-koreas-chunmoo-over-german-rocket-launcher-system>Norway has removed KNDS Deutschland’s EuroPULS from its Long Range Precision Firing Systems competition, leaving U.S. HIMARS and South Korea’s Chunmoo as the remaining contenders. The move reshapes a major NATO procurement and adds tension to the German-Norwegian defense partnership.>According to the German defense outlet Hartpunkt, on 21 November 2025, Norway has already removed KNDS Deutschland’s EuroPULS from its rocket artillery competition, leaving U.S. and South Korean systems as the remaining options for Oslo’s Long Range Precision Firing Systems program. The decision comes at the very moment Berlin and Oslo are celebrating their deepening partnership on 212CD submarines and Leopard 2A8 main battle tanks, with the first Leopard 2A8s handed over this week at KNDS in Munich. What was meant to be the next flagship of a European deep fires architecture has instead become a visible stress point inside that partnership.>Norway is weighing U.S. HIMARS/GMARS and South Korea's K239 Chunmoo after dropping EuroPULS, a decision that could reshape NATO's long-range strike posture in the High North and strain Oslo's defense ties with Germany (Picture source: Deutch MoD).>Speaking at the Leopard ceremony, German defense minister Boris Pistorius publicly urged Norway to join a European rocket artillery cluster around EuroPULS and the Bundeswehr’s future MARS 3. “We see how important a modern and resilient rocket artillery cluster is,” he said, adding that a common solution “would be a win for both sides, for interoperability, for security of supply and for a robust European capability in a field where requirements will only increase.” Yet Hartpunkt reports that Oslo had already excluded KNDS in the summer, likely on cost and delivery grounds, even if officials will not publicly confirm the reasoning.
>>64550456>they removed the ONE system that can fire literally every missile be it russian american or israeli (europuls is just puls in the end) and they let himars it?The system still belongs to Elbit systems so Israel can veto whatever they want for "security reasons". Basically they're like mossad botnet + kraut bureaucracy, the worst combo of both sides.
Meanwhile
>>64547479>Israel >look inside>~40% of the population is European or American
>>64548964If anything we should support Israel even more to make Muslims more mad. Why should we bow to Muslims?
>>64550456they bought the type 26 instead of the fdi what do you expect
>>64547367nothing, they just realized PULS is a meme because it's not compatible with MFOM pods so they will run out of ammo including ally donations in the first weeks of the conflict
>>64547421vi elsker tysk dritt her i norge!!!!!!!!!!!
>>64547367>U.S.We can get you 10 a year>KoreaWe can get you 20 a year, but no MRBMs>GermanyWhat's that, can you actually receive something you bought from us? Wtf no, lmaoooo
>>64547479>>64548964>>64548967>>64551201If it has Israeli technology, then it's fucking compromised. Not to mention that pro-Israeli politicians and lobbyists getting a bigger say in a country becomes a massive sovereignty and security risk, and they go out of their way to promote culture wars and social tensions.Israel has a history of selling classified US arms technology to China since the late-1980s. China's modern aircraft program was kickstarted after Israel gave it access to the IAI Lavi derived from the F-16 in the early-90s. China's done program massively benefited from Israel who sold it drones. Israel has also sold classified data to the Soviets, such as the from the trove of documents stolen by Jonathan Pollard when he spied on the US for Israel.Prior to mid-2022, when they procured Iranian drones, Russia's entire drone inventory was low-end Israeli drones. More Jewish Israelis have dual citizenship in Russia than in any other country.
>>64554207Ach Boomer, hdf.
>>64547367Should have waited for GMARS, that is absolute kino. Basically a german HIMARS with double the missile carrying capacity. I wish germany would get those instead of that jewish bullshit, we already have the missile production, it would be a pretty much homemade system and it's just a better HIMARS which has truly proven itself in recent wars
>>64549331Can't trust Germany to allow their Rheinmetall made weapons to be used against Russia if they flip like US did. Meanwhile, Hanwha as a company might be pussies but once they sell their licenses, Korean govt can't pull the plug on the weapons.
>>64555897>RHM>The company who's CEO russia tried to assassinateLmao
