>Invade North Korea to do some cold war shit>Shoot civilians>Leave>Also we did this in 2005 as well heheI have so many questions. What kind of communications can you interpret that aren't encrypted? Were they gonna plant a bug in Kim's toilet or something?
I thought SaTEllITeS could do anything!
>>64550153Lmao>uh yeah guys we kinda did it twice lol
>>64550153They sent a team to get insider information on what the Norks were saying to each other by tapping their lines. Then a little fishing boat got near so Seal Team 6 lit them up and then ran away, without installing the listening device. So it was just a very expensive way to get very well trained military men murder 2-3 shell fishermen. Since USA and NK aren't even at war, NK and the families are actually able to get financial compensation and an apology over this.
Are nork civilians really allowed outside after dark?
>>64550280>NK and the families are actually able to get financial compensation and an apology over this.Right after they compensate and apologize for that kid they murdered for going to the wrong level in their hotel.
>>64550153>>64550280Specifically, they spent about a year surveilling the location to work out regular patterns and planned on getting it done in time for then-imminent US-NK talks, to give them an advantage.The seals that leaked it to the NYT said it was because they were tired of the perception that everything always goes right and that high end special ops forces are a magic bullet to every problem, specifically pointing the finger at the current admin and their behaviour the last time around.When a seal of all people asks you to stop jerking them off so much you know it's gone too far.
>>64550280>Since USA and NK aren't even at war, NK and the families are actually able to get financial compensation and an apology over this.The korean war never ended. The truce didn't result in a peace treaty, it's just ongoing.
>>64550153Any hard lines, phone mostly and the US will happily chew through encryption.
>>64550153SEALS ROE changed following Operation Red Wings. Who knows what they were doing there. There is a lot of covert infiltration of NK like this.
>>64550316>Do this very easy mission >Fuck up and kill a bunch of fishermen>This is Trump's fault
>>64550455Not really sure how that's what you got out of it, but you do you.
>be NK>kidnap random south korean and japanese civilians>kidnap and kill US tourists>I'm supposed to care about themmeh
>>64550460>specifically pointing the finger at the current admin and their behaviour the last time around.
>>64550464As in for overusing deniable operations as a policy tool, not for specifically putting North Korean fisherman there and ruining that op or something.They were saying 'you only hear about the ones that go well and it creates a perception that it's the solution to any tricky problem, which leads to overuse' in the articles. To paraphrase.
>>64550466I'm pretty sure the president is aware of the missions that fail. Hence, I question the stated motives of the leak.
>>64550473Then maybe read the fucking article where the people that leaked it went into more depth, anon. I'm paraphrasing from memory, not a live interview with the leakers.
>>64550475I ain't reading shit. Either their narrative or your version of their narrative is sus as fuck. Simple as.
>>64550477Okay.
>>64550153Seems like such a suicidal mission too. Like what, get your best guys into the most DANGEROUS country on the planet to plant a bug and get out?
>>64550477little melty at the mere mention of king pedoSad!
>>64550505Files got released bud. You can move into the next thing.
>>64550153All this is teaching me is that the SEALS are actual clowns and shouldn't be let outside without helmets and a masturbation cross.
>>64550473>I'm pretty sure the president is aware of the missions that faillol trump doesn't give a fuck about people who lose. he doesn't even read.
>>64550347First of all, the US has never been at war with North Korea. Neither side declared war on each other. The american troops fought under the UN's auspices.Second of all. Fuck em.
Shit happens. They didn't expect that there would be anyone else in the area. When the fishermen were there unexpectedly, and noticed them, they probably opened fire because they didn't know whether it was NK coast guard or something. Either way they couldn't continue the mission because of the fairly high possibility that someone noticed the shooting
>>64550682America shouldn't have invaded another country's territory with armed soldiers, and this incident would have never happened.
>>64550288>student>University of Virginia>'just got off on the wrong level of his hotel'lmao get fucked glowies
>>64550153The SEALs are almost clownishly incompetent and unprofessional
>>64550316>>64550153I'm more stunned by their lack of common sense>Shoot a boat and blow your cover>If it's military, pray they somehow don't radio back in time>If it's civilian, you commit a war crime What exactly was their plan here?
>>64550845They believed they were already blown, or imminently going to be. So at that point it's just a question of what outcome you think is least likely to get the US in trouble and you blown up by an AA gun on North Korean state television.
>>64550461> kidnap random south korean and japanese civiliansThe funny part is that they were so good at it that whenever it was reported, the Japanese government was like “Lmao, that’s not a thing. Stop being retarded”Until Kim just randomly apologized for doing it out of the blue.
>>64550852It's an incorrect assumption and there's still the chance it's civilian. It's the most basic common sense for a solider to positively identify an enemy before firing. It sounds like they panicked and magdumped into a fucking fishing boat.
>>64550959Typical seal shit.Justice for mah homie John Chapman
>>64550802>GG-GLOWIE!!!You are a turd-world tyrant worshipping subhuman
>>64550517>>64550841>>64550845The only difference between a Seal and the most nappy-haired, mirror test failing, crayon eating Marine is narcissism
>>64550959The problem there is that even if it's civilians they're still blown. Even if they're tied up or something, eventually they tell the police, the police tell the military, the military put two and two together and you've now destroyed the talks you were trying to get an advantage in.I'm not saying it's not a complete fuckup, but I'm not sure what else made sense at that point.
>>64550517They're known among spec ops (Army rangers, green berets, deltas, etc) as the least professional, most arrogant and most high on their own supply.
>>64551032If that was their thinking at the time that's super fucked up. Killing civilians to cover up your botched operation.
>>64551049There's a reason nobody knew about it until they leaked it.
>>64550959>there's still the chance it's civilian.NK civillian isn't the same as civillian in the state with how state-owned and militarized everything is over there.
>>64551052Also keep in mind that the leaked story has probably already been twisted by a lawyer to be in a much better light
>>64550280We are at war dipshit. We have been in an active war with Korea since the 50s. No it never ended, yes it's still an active war
And North Korea abducted Japanese civilians and it became an urban myth that you'd be snatched by North Korean frogmen and everybody dismissed it as nonsense until North Korea admitted doing it, offered all the people they had captured back to see their families, then demanded they were returned and Japan went 'no lol'.
>>64551424We were never at war with Korea. It's an international police action.
>>64551431They should have sent the subs back to snatch them again.
>>64550153>concerns that gunshot sounds may have alerted other civiliansWere these fucking retards not using suppressors?
>>64550695When it come to the kim jong private kingdom the US abso-fucking-lutely should invade and wipe it off the map. Especially these days where the hard power balance is so lopsided all these tyrants can do is spread propaganda in open societies hoping its enough to politically paralyze them
>>64551464Suppressors don't work like that. And whatever plausible other explanation for a suppressed gunshot probably got invalidated when they riddled the boat with holes.
I like the detail about puncturing their lungs so the bodies wouldn’t float up. Absolutely psychotic if you consider this is something seals likely are taught and have trained to do
>>64551431I've never heard of this before. Are you saying they let them go home and then asked for them to be sent back? That would be audaciously retarded.
>>64550517SEAL's are actually really good at what they do. The problem is that they are literally incapable of shutting the fuck up.
>>64550841>>64550153Why didnt they use delta force? I thought they were the best? Seals just swim around?
>>64551540dictartorships are not known for high IQ movesit is 100% retardedOne of them was a US guy who fled to NK because he was shit scared of going to vietnamhoped he would be allowed to go to USSRNK says no and instead forces him to marry one of the abducted Jap girls and to tech NK spooks englishfunny thing he was from the south with a thick accent
>>64550280>So it was just a very expensive way to get very well trained military men murder 2-3 shell fishermen.Never be fooled, they were clearly torpedo boats!
Lets just call it settling the score from Operation Paul Bunyan :^)
>>64550153>SEAL team>for planting a listening deviceIsn't this a job for spies?
>>64551565literally the mission the SDV teams were created for
>>64551606its more their job than chasing terry taliban around in the mountains was.
>>64551571The thought of a North Korean spook speaking in a thick southern accent is incredible funny to me. Especially if it's Cajun or the stereotypical slave owner manner of speaking
>>64551619Charles Robert Jenkins and he was from North Carolinait isn't some deep souther drall bu it is pretty funny
>>64550446>SEAL crybaby tells blatant lie about his pals died because they weren't allowed to commit war crimes rather than their extraordinary arrogance and hubris>everyone in the know is aware that it's a lie>instead improving mission planning, the Navy's solution is to simply give their frogmen carte blanche to murder civilians
>>64550288>KidLmao
>>64551571>>64551619>>645516364 of the 7 American soldiers who've defected to North Korea have been White Southerners. Now we could chalk this up to poverty, disillusionment with the rigors of military life, a desire to avoid service in Vietnam, and the disproportionate number of White Southerners in the US Military, but that's boring. I like to think they have a racially-ingrained urge to honor their ancestors' memory by undermining the Union.
>>64551786Well there was that Texan guy who willingly volunteered to fight in Donbass and I'm certain there's been at least 1 southerner Jihadi who worked with ISIS. The thought that no matter who we're fighting there will always be a southern defector tickles me. It's like Lieutenant Dan's family but less death and more treason
>>64551799Not sure about ISIS but for Al Qaeda there is the case of Yaser Esam Hamdi, but he's of Saudi descent. He was just born and grew up in Louisiana.
>>64550695They are still at war and threatening an important ally.
>>64551571>NK says no and instead forces him to marry one of the abducted Jap girls and to tech NK spooks englishSounds good, where do I apply?
>>64551799>Well there was that Texan guy who willingly volunteered to fight in DonbassDo you think he regretted it by the end?
Based. I hope they do it again!
>>64551902Was he the one they raped?
>>64550153What would they have done if there was a survivor, and it was a fisherman (non military)
>>64551917yes
>>64551431>offered all the people they had captured back to see their familiesThey only returned about half of them or a 1/3 of them(I can't remember which), some of which were dead so they returned their remains instead one of which DNA didn't match the remains. They still have some Japanese captive. Base man Abe was the one who brokered a deal to return some of them back in 2005. My guess as to why he couldn't get them all is because maybe the norks were expecting them to come back and holding the rest as a bargaining chips. My other guess is some of the captives were forced to have families and probably didn't want to return do to muh honor. >>64551540I know American world news barely ever mentions shit outside the country so pretty much nobody knew about this. China was also abducting people around the world. As for Japan they have been having yearly protests and constantly begging US presidents and the U.N. for over 30 years to bring the rest back.
>>64552254Made him not a survivor, obviously.
>>64551540they were released on a "parole" type agreement where the norks expected them to get sent back lmao as though there was some legitimacy to their custody
>>64550153>IAEA>open secret Russia uses Norks for nuke testingProof of the above probably.
>>64551434Which is a stupid legalese way to say "war".
>>64550153>>64550268they did it more than twice.they only got caught twice.
>>64550316>drumpf doesnt understand le sealsUnder 18, or retarded foreigner who doesn't remember the Obama years?
>>64554378That is true. Who knows how many civvie murders the SEALs never got caught for?
>>64550153This is the first I'm hearing about it wtf?
>>64551565>SEALs always get used for jobs way outside their remit>actually do a job within their role>>Why not use delta?Cmon man I don't like SEALs and their butchered ops in the middle east but this was actual SEALs work
>>64550959They probably had orders to kill all witnesses anyway, if norks even get a hint there was an infiltration they would absolutely scour the region, and maybe even find the wiretap. This way there's no witness, and the bodies are in the bottom of the sea, just fishermen who went missing.
>>64554378What if all those korean ghost ships washing up in Japan are actually from seals eliminating witnesses?
>>64550280>NK families >financial compensationbest i can do is waking up to a horror movie soundtrack just to direct non-existent traffic for 12 hours a day
>>64550172LMAO the boring af dive shit, stuff seals should actually do, is 10000x more interesting than devgru swat wannabees killing ragheads with impunity in dumfuckistan.
>>64551761>nork kidnapper apologist
I don't understand why they didn't just send a platoon of marines to do this. They're perfectly capable of handling this.
>>64554672>actually do a job within their role But they didn't do their job, they failed.
Just a bit of banter between soldiers
>>64550695Imagine going to bat for North fucking Korea.Wherever your hovel is, I hope they put a Hellfire through it.
>>64551049Buddy, I've got some bad news about deniable ops.
>>64551476I'm curious if you have to stab them, or if you just put a round or two through the chest. The effect is the same, and I imagine shooting is both quicker if you think cover's already blown, but special forces are all maladjusted by design, so there's a part of me that would figure they would use knives.
>>64551619>>64551798>So we been breaking kwalliso for 3 generations.>Mos' time the breaking sticks. The kwalliso don't give you any kine uh problems.>B b but sometimes, sometimes... well sometimes you get a PECULIAR kwalliso.>This one kwalliso, well he was the peculiar type, he a uh, well he would act up but he wouldnt hide it.>It seem every week he was pretending to take a nap on mining duty( but with one eye open all koi like) or he'd take a extra worm infested corn kernel, or or or he'd sit his traitorous ass on the barracks porch.>Every week he'd do somethin' rascally IN PLain damn sight of the COmaseeah.>COmaseeah would call out to the kwalliso to get to the Breakin Facility. This kwallisos eyes would light up and before you could whistle Aegukka, he'd be in the barn.>This kwalliso would run to that breaking facility like it was a cool stream on a hot August day in Pyongyang.>Hellll it got sooo bad this buck would TELL You what kine mischief he was gone get his malnourished ass into. He hadnt even DO nuthin yet..>He would skip over to the facility after a call out "COME On COMAaaaaSSA THIS DEFECTOR AINT GUNNA BREAK HISSELF!">Just down right peculiar...
