Hi guys. It's that time again where you get to actually use all the cool toys you accumulate to see if they can actually kill something. Curious to see how /k/ has used some of their gear with success. Interested in:>what was your target>what did you use>how was the shot>anything interestingPics are also cool. I'll go first.>mid-west whitetail 7 point buck. Shitty rack, but big deer>Daniel Defense 10.3" .300 AAC with G$-SSA-E SureFire SF3P flash hider HANDGUN, SureFire SOCOM-7.62-RC2 Silencer, MAWL-C1+ Quantum Leap, SureFire Scout, SureFire SR01-D-IT WeaponLight Switch. Hornady .300 AAC 135 grain FTX polymer tip>~150 yard shot from a redneck blind overlooking a one of the fields on my property. >My ACOG was dead nuts on. Dressing the deer, it had no heart to be found. Just a puddle. Probably in the top 3 best shots I have made on a deer. It jumped and made it about 10 yards before collapsing. Was like identical to the shot I made last year. Only then I was using my SCAR. But it was sooooo loud in that redneck blind, I opted for a silencer this year.Let's hear about your success!
Fuck yeah. Besides hardly anyone on /k/ owning guns, even fewer hunt. I wish we had a hunting thread always up like /msg/ does.>up in 16ft ladder stand>real thick brush and woods but 4 really good approaches make my stand kind of a crossroads for deer in that particular area >up to 50yrds LOS, close range stuff>using my old 870 20 gauge I've had since I was 12 (23 years ago already)>3 inch Brenneke slugs >See lateral movement at furthest point I can see, but too much brush to make a responsible shot since I couldn't see it overly well>it passes, get sad, remain on high alert for like 10 minutes >he's circled around and is now heading towards me>let him get within 40yrds before shooting Slug travelled from his lower neck all the way to his back quarter. Somehow almost no meat was ruined. Nothing that goes on the wall, but he was a healthy little buck.
>>64563729so you think that the bullet performed well? do you have any other pictures of the wound? can you describe how large a hole it made in the deer? I've always been quite curious about .300blk supersonic performance. I like short guns and have been considering putting together a 7" or shorter
>>64563780>300blk supersonic performanceNot him but it'd basically be like .30-30 lite
>>64563729>an ARI got back into hunting this year after almost 20 years of not going (just stopped prioritizing it). '07 people weren't hunting with ARs much...so opening morning this year, sounded like a war from the opener mornings I was used to. >PAP PAP PAP PAP PAP PAP PAPHad to have been ARs lolt. proud fudd gun owner
>>64563780going by internet claims, even heavy subsonics pass through a deer broadside 2/3 of the time, supers are much more powerful. Lots of copper solids on the market these days, super 300blk has more than enough oomph to fragment a light jacketed bullet so you might not want to use a v-max or varmageddon on an animal you want to eat. A 7" barrel will probably get you 2100-2200 fps with a 110gr bullet. One thing to be aware of is the huge difference in point of impact between subs and supers, so your gun will need to be sighted in with the ammo you want to hunt with.
I’m old. After 24 or so years of hunting I finally got my first big buck last year. Then got another one (this one) this year. 6.5 meme dropped both on the spot from about 40-50 yards.
>>64563897Based Bergara enjoyer. I dropped a moose some weeks ago with the 6.5 Creedmeme.
>>64563906Hell yeah. I was wondering if 6.5 is suitable for moose. Got a pic of it?
>>64563897Fuckin nice rack dude
sat in deer blind yesterday and today a good 7 or 8 hours, shitty weather in northern WI rain/snow/wind, saw nothing, probably will try again before season is out
>>64563897nice deer!
>>64563926Mine was a calf but others in our group have dropped adult moose with the 6.5 creed and swede mauser.
>>64563926I shot with a 9,3gram bullet but others swear by lighter solid copper rounds. You just have to load them yourself and make them go fuckfast.
>>64563926.308 is plenty good for Moose, I'm sure 6.5 will do just fine seeing as its the new hot economical battle/marksman/hunting rifle round.
>>64563997Nice! How do moose taste?
>>64563950I live in the Northeast US and the concept of sitting in damp 34 degree weather always annoys me about hunting. I feel like I need to get a drysuit or something to put underneath.
How does one go about getting into hunting? I know you need a license, gun and ppe, but do you really just walk into the woods and seek deer?
>>64563729You could have used a real rifle you worthless cunt
>>64563729I don't have pictures but my Glock 20 has stories.>kill one>trash day >trash fucking EVERYWHERE >what the fuck>spend nearly an hour cleaning it all up>put up trail camera >fucking trash panda>next trash night>sly cooper shows up>hey buddy>Liberty Civil Defense 10mm >explode his headFuck Raccoons.>kill 2-7>work nights >pass neighbors house>they got chickens >I buy tasty eggs >look at neighbors chicken coop >it's FUCKING SURROUNDED by coyotes >neighbor built a really smart chicken coop with a "S" style entrance so predators can't just go in >my tasty eggs are in danger >jump out of car>unload 15 rounds into coyotes >some drop right there, others screaming and crawling away >total was 6 killed, possibly more >neighbor runs outside with 870 police (retired Kansas HP) >starts yelling at me until he sees the carnage >now get 6 free eggs each week Liberty Civil Defense 10mm is fucking GOAT.
>>64564038Lean and gamey.
>>64563729I haven't been hunting this year but I live in a wooded area and regularly see many deer, except for this year. For the first time in many years I haven't seen any deer around at all this season and have heard the same thing from neighbors.
>>64564456Sounds like a good round for varmints, honestly think that's the best sort of use case for those liberty loads
>>64564488Bad omen
>>64563950>shitty weather in northern WI rain/snow/wind, saw nothingSame story here, got a doe on Monday evening with a Japanese Type 99 while sitting in a tree stand but haven't seen anything since. Tomorrow morning is my last chance to see a buck but with this weather, probably not gonna see anything. >>64563897That's a sweet rack, congrats.
>>64564040the shitty weather takes it out of you for sure, and the deer don't move as much, they just bed downluckily I was in an elevated blind with a roof, still was cold and my fingers and toes were cold enough I was ready to leave few hours after sun came up
>>64564972hell yeah dude, congrats on doe and good luck
>>64564393you can hunt on public lands, you can buy your own land and set up a tree stand or blind, you can seek a friend/senpai member who hunts and ask them to introduce you to it
>>64565085Not him but this is my view/setup
>>64564528Yeah, I kinda thought the same thing but didn't want to say it.
Anyone hunting today?
Shot this 9 pointer afternoon of opening day. First time filling my tag on opening day. Used a Tikka in 30-06. Good luck to all hunting anons
Just a little guy Happy Thanksgiving
>>64566368I got a buck already, but I'm really thinking about grouse hunting. My grandma's 40 acres is private as you'd imagine, so I don't have to worry about deer hunters or fucking up their groove
>>64563729CCI 40gr 1050FPS HP is good shit. Raccoon under 25 yds, hit about 1.5-2" behind the arm, went up through heart and lungs to the front between the shoulder blade and spine. 10/22. Raccoon will either get tanned or put on a taxidermy foam form. Somehow this shit seems to mushroom better than the other supersonic HPs I use; that tends to stay pretty much as-is when I do find them.
>>64564393I can really tell you the basics but it varies state by state so what may apply in one state may not in another. You'll need to complete Hunter's Ed for most, if not all states. In-person classes usually happen around August to maybe November (giving a very wide range here because I'm not 100% sure). Online, you can complete it whenever. You'll need to choose your state here:https://www.hunter-ed.com/And pay the ~$20-40 or whatever it is. Then go to your state's fish and game. There should be a site where you can create an account and buy your tags. The basic one probably includes deer, but take a closer look; you may get rifle, bow, crossbow, or muzzleloader or a mix of all of them, which all have different seasons. Some states don't allow hunting on Sunday. Some do. Some have exceptions (ie. "varmint hunting", like coyotes or starlings). Your state fish and game should have a "hunting digest" in PDF form or physical form (sometimes available at Bass Pro, Walmart, Cabelas, etc. at the counter where you get tags printed). This should include most, if not all of your hunting regulations and the regulations that vary by what you're hunting including how much orange you do or don't have to wear, what calibers you can or can't use, whether you can or can't use a semi auto shotgun/rifle for certain game, etc. Some states also have restrictions on whether you can use bottlenecked cartridges (ie. .223) or you have to use straightwall (IIRC, Ohio).(cont. because on page 10)
>>64564393Some areas may have additional restrictions such as wetland preserves you're allowed to hunt at; some of them restrict lead rifle bullets as well as shot, IIRC. Normal shotgun hunting can be done with lead in most states *AFAIK but waterfowl have to be hunted with steel federally (the entire US). Birds often have additional tags required; ducks have "stamps". In some states you may need to pay for furbearers (fox, coyote, raccoon, groundhog (?), skunk, opossum). Your state hunting seasons will likely vary quite a lot even compared to neighboring states; be sure to look them up for your state yearly. In some states (fucking California, of course), lead ammo AT ALL is either heavily restricted if not banned for hunting IIRC, which is retarded considering it's the lead in the primer that's really the problem AFAIK (my lead 22LR uses lead-free priming compound).For deer, you'll need to:>do hunter's ed>get license and make sure it's the kind you need for rifle hunting and your preference for doe vs buck>get earmuffs or plugs; electronic muffs can be nice>get your preferred rifle (make sure it's in a cartridge legal to be used for deer in your state; caliber restrictions do exist even outside of straightwall states)>practice with your preferred rifle, scope if you want, but make sure it holds zero (ie. you should zero long before hunting season and see if it holds zero from range trip to range trip up to the time the season is almost here).Practice can be done with FMJ to save quite a lot of money if you're putting a decent amount of shots through your rifle. Hunting, though, should be done with something like a soft-point specifically designed for hunting. And of course, you should ZERO THE RIFLE WITH YOUR HUNTING AMMO. Doesn't matter how accurate your rifle is if your zero is off 7" because you had it zeroed for cheap FMJ.>buy a treestand(cont.)
>>64564393>learn how to SAFELY use it (you're like 15-25 feet up in a random tree in the woods)Shit, maybe even practice before season especially if it's one of those climber ones. Seems like you'd need to get a knack for how it works before it'd go smoothly (and quietly).>look for your state's public landOut west this is BLM land. Out east, sometimes the fish and game owns public land. Your state probably has a list of public land and maybe even an interactive map through ARCGIS. If that's the case, you can download Field Maps (an ARCGIS app) and find that fish&game's map data. I forget how I did it. Yes you can also use OnX but I'm a cheap fuck and I don't see why I should pay (yearly!) for public data in a slightly different format. If they had a "pay for a download of this year's data in x county" option I'd probably do it though. Also, some state forests are able to be hunted, though they may have their own restrictions and areas you can't hunt (often if they have a website, this info is readily available).>make sure you know when your preferred season is>make sure you know the details of your tag (ie. some states require antlers to be of a certain size before a buck can be shot)>once you shoot the deer, you probably have to tag it ASAP once you get to the deer and it's confirmed dead (safe to get near)>have transport of the deer figured out FAR ahead of time; make sure your car has a way to transport it like a deer rack on the back or something else>make sure you learn how to gut and field dress a deer FAR in advanceThere's a lot more blood in game than you think. You're going to need gloves and a good knife. If you don't have one, at least buy a Morakniv as they're very easy to keep clean and relatively rust resistant and are rather sharp out of the box. Having some cheap Walmart bathroom towels, a plastic dropcloth, and some baby wipes goes a long way.(cont.)
>>64564393>make sure you figure out your preferred method of transporting the deer to your carFunny enough I saw a hand truck with inflatable tires stashed in the woods this year; not a bad idea if you have a smooth gravel trail out, honestly. And that's about all I have because I'm not actually a deer hunter. I've gotten a stand and I could definitely do it, but I just don't have the time or space for game that big. I hunt a lot of any other game that isn't "big game", though, and a lot of it also applies for that kind of hunting (apart from the tree stand). Also get permethrin. Tractor Supply has it in the horse section. Weird to grab it there, I know, but the $12 bottle of Gordon's concentrate will last years. And I mean YEARS. You just follow the instructions, mix it in a spray bottle, and bam, you have bug-proofed clothes without the godawful plastic melting of DEET or the scent of basically anything else. Pair with (essential oil based) bug repellents as needed. Permethrin kills bugs very well but seems to be one of the safest out there. You may also want to grab a cheap heated jacket or heated gloves with a rechargeable battery pack depending on how cold it is. Has saved my ass hunting in the dead of winter quite a lot. Even a heated vest under your clothes is good. Hands get cold the fastest, though. Also good to scout for hunting areas a month or more in advance. Hunting spots go pretty fast and sometimes a stand is pretty hard to spot until you see it. You're probably going to go out about just before the sun rises, though deer are out all day. Morning is going to give you your best chance, though.>>64564972Is it sporterized or are you hunting with an unmolested Type 99? That's a rifle I've considered hunting with one day and I'm curious how decent of a deer rifle it is.
>>64563729It's fucking cold out. Processing what my friend shot with 300 BO into ground veni, I slept in this morning.
It's not hunting related, but I imagine /k/ has a good amount of farmers compared to other boards.Are goats tasty? I've been mulling over getting some meat goats because they cute, grow fast, and the small ones seem easy to manage, (yes I know goats are assholes, I mean compared to cattle since you don't need to worry about someone accidentally getting killed/injured by a tiny meat goat stepping on them/goring them with horns/etc)Problem is, I've never actually tried goat so I would prefer not to get some, raise them, butcher them, cook them... And not even like the meat. I imagine it's pretty close to sheep? I've had plenty of lamb chops and they're pretty damn good as long as you know how to cook them.I was considering the fainting goats because they cute and smol :)
>>64563729How much did you pay a real man to butcher that deer for you?
>>64571957Butchering? You guys don’t just shoot them for fun and call it hunting?
>>64571896You should probably try it out to see what you think of it I've had delicious goat and absolutely vile goat before, but it's always been heavily spiced or in a curry.Also not a farmer but a lot of smallholder raise goats here and from what they've told me they're clever escape artists. You can see little groups of feral ones on hillsides here by the highway as a result of this. The phrase "goat rope" exists for a reason.
>>64563729>T+2 HoursFuck my back hurts hunching over the counter, but the meat is clean. Intelligent design my ass, who thought it was a good idea to put the fat on the outside of the animal? Fucking furry shits.
>>64571957Cosmopolitan kike
>>64567132I love uneven racks like that, burly looking guy
>>64572572Fuck I hate how the fat is on the outside when skinning. Half of it stays on the animal, the other half goes on your pelt, it seems. Makes it so much more vague as to where the skin is so I tend to err on the "cut into the fat" side rather than "put a big hole in your nice hide" side. Pain in the ass. Skinning squirrels is so much easier; they're so lean with a tiny bit of fat depending on diet and time of year. I'd say 60% of them have no visible fat.>>64572672NTA and IDK about other locations but if you like weird ass deer racks and you're ever in PA, the Hamburg Cabelas location has a pretty wide and wild display of deer racks. There's the "mountain" in the middle that has some decent deer around it, there's african game high up and some on dressing rooms, there's additional african game in the back left (worth a look, no spoilers), then there's the cave back by the gun counter (left) just in front of the previous area. That has a couple neat displays of various game in different scenery; some pine forest, some sandy, but also at the entrance and inside the cave (left past the sandy scene), there's a wall with all sorts of examples of nontypical deer racks. Most in the store are only shoulder forward wall mounts that are hung in the cave but some are full body. And frankly if I shot a deer that looked like 90% of those nontypical deer in that place, I think I'd definitely have to dig deep and find the cash to get a full body mount, no way could I let that just be a wallhanger. Space would also be made to display the damn thing. And I'm not even a fucking deer hunter, I just love weird and unusual taxidermy from the smallest details and oddities to racks that look like melted candle wax.
>>64563729Last weekend was a triumph in Kentucky. Shot this mature 7 pointer from 50yd in the woods at about 1:00pm when I was stalking through the leaves. He took off and I tracked him easy up a ridge to where he laid down& died about 75yd from where I shot himFinally retired the Mosin as a hunting rifle and replaced it with a much handier sporterized No. 4 Mk. 1 - performed exceptionally well.150gr. PPU soft points. Ripped through the gut and whatever artery supplies blood to the abdomen; exit wound clearly showed the bullet was tumbling, which is neat and I wish I had taken a picture of thatHappy Hunting, anons!
>>64563769Based shoulder cannon hunter>>64563897That's a really nice buck anon, damn near looks like a donkey>>64563997This is neat. Did the dog help you track him?>>64567132Real thick rack, hell yeah brother>>64567831Cool rifle, solid buck! How far was the shot?
>>64564393just get a gun and go out and blast shit
>>64574119Great buck but are you sure it isn’t an 8 pointer? Round up anon
>>64574247The one point is mostly broken off, I don't like to be a braggart
>>64563729>no private land access>public land is all under 500 acres and already full of deerstands and overpressured to hell and backIs it over?
>>64574153Love that view. Image even just a half inch of snow would illuminate the place. Nice to see sporter milsurp get used too
>>64574119>I tracked him easyI found the Easter egg, and it is good
>>64564393DON'T DO:>>64574191
>>64575085We had a light dusting a couple weeks ago. Cold as hell but there's no place I would have rather been than in a tree>>64575093I think about Paul a lot when I'm hunting. One of these years I'll be get close enough to a deer to pull out the .38 snub like he did
took 2 decent sized whitetail does with my 3d printed rifle this year
>>64575601Badass. What caliber
>>645760419mm+P hollowpoint
>>64567831Based
>>64564456Reminds me of a story a few years ago.>up at crack of dawn for family road trip, getting showered so I don't smoke the car out with pit stink or other foul odors>BOOM.wav>jump out of my fucking skin, wide-ass awake now>continue showering after waiting a few beats>BOOM.wav>BOOM.wav>BOOM.wav>BOOM.wav>BOOM.wav>finally, peace has returned>finish shower, emerge and investigate>turns out, dad had surprised a racoon eating our dog's breakfast>had tried to chase it off, but between him on the deck and the dog down below, trash panda had decided to cling to a spindle on the deck and refuse to give any more ground>so dad retrieved S&W 629 and shot the bastard>trash panda dropped, but was writhing around on the deck and making an apparently awful racket>so he kept shooting to try and put the thing out of its misery>no success, at first he thinks he's just been missing>but after a few minutes, racoon has expired, and on investigation has been turned into swiss cheese>apparently they just die like cats, with much sound and fury even after fatal woundsWe used to have several bullet holes in the lower railing and a nice big divot in one of the floor boards from that incident, but they just replaced some rotting boards this year so I don't know if the evidence is still there.
>>64571824>Is it sporterized or are you hunting with an unmolested Type 99?It is an unmolested one, it works surprisingly well as a deer rifle. The iron sights work decently well in lower light and being able to pivot the floorplate makes for fast unloading. 7.7x58 will have no problems dropping a deer provided you make a good shot.
>>64574153>>64563997 HereThis is over in Finland. There are a couple of different ways to hunt moose here. If you're alone you can stalk their feeding grounds from a blind (often purpose built fields or "gardens" in the woods) like you would deer in the US. Then as a group either by forming a chain of hunters and driving moose towards them with another chain or in our case by bottling an area with hunters and putting the dogs in. They find and track the moose. If the moose stops because of the dog, someone sneaks close to shoot the moose. But where I hunt we have wolves, which means the moose have learned NOT TO stop and just haul ass. So we track the dog with GPS, trying to anticipate the route the moose might take and get guys in front of it. Using GPS trackers like that feels a bit modern and gay at times but sometimes the chases are wild when the animal is some old bastard that knows the area and actually fucks with us. The one in the picture was my 11th one. I've had complete random encounters with moose in places nobody expected them. I've had a dog drive a young bull almost on top of me in the bush and I had to headshot it point blank. I've had animals come right up to me on an angle where I couldnt see it behind a bush but could hear it stop and smell me. And then sometimes I've had animal walk out in the open with nary a worry in the world right in front of me.This one weekend our group of dozen or so chased this one moose for two days. It was an old huge female and I guess we had shot its calves or something, because she led us all over the place. Like "I'm going this way. Hahaa gotcha I'm doing a 360 and moonwalking over your dogs the way I came from", rinse and repeat. The weekend ended when we had her cornered "in a great spot" and she still managed to sneak between two guys. As a final "fuck you" she walked over to our hunting cabin, did a lap in the yard and walked outside the boundary of our hunting area.Moose hunting is awesome.
>>64578019Edit: The one in the first picture was mine. This picturesque picture of a swampy forest is of my little brothers first moose. An adult female and a calf wondered in front of me and I shot the calf, pictured before. I was thinking of nailing the mom too because I've never shot two moose from the same spot but thought that nah, better not get greedy. Karma rewarded me and mom ran into my brother, who got his first mööse.
>>64575601Niiice decker9, when will it be out of beta ?
>>64563729>>64563769>>64563897>>64567132>>64567831Look at all these homos with just one deer
>>64575601Giga Based
1 doe thus far, my yearly buck is pending. Samick Sage 50lbs recurve bow. No additional equipment other than a Flemish twist string, limb silencers, string silencers. I sat on the ground behind some brush about 15 yards from a popular game trail on my property. Doe approaches. Broadhead double lung shot at about 10 yards. No special camo, just wearing a green wool poncho that my wife made and a burlap sniper veil. No scent masking, no baiting on my property, no sights, no blind, not even a chair.Will take another buck this way, then 1 more with a firearm just to keep my skillz up.
>>64578730Truly based. I respect it. I need to get into bow hunting
>>64578218It's nice to have something to shoot the next year too.
>>64575601What annoys me the most in this is the fact that you already had the form language of an wh40k Imperial lasgun all done. The front end needed just a tiny bit more work. Finish it!
Opening day tomorrow for me
>>64578869With the amount of dead deer on the side of the road I blast every one I find
>>64579030Alright then. Carry on. We dont have that problem here. How much of the meat do you eat yourself and how much do you sell or gift to others?
>>64579261Butcher all of it, neck and rib meat included. Pack steaks, grind a bunch, send some in to a processor. Git gud I guess
>>64578218Isnt there limits on how many you can shoot? I thought you got like 1 buck and 1 doe or two does per tag.
>>64579508NTA but it highly depends on your state. I was talking to a deer hunter this week and he mentioned just how many damn deer tags you get in the past few years. I knew you got your rifle, bow, and muzzleloader (some buck, some doe, some either) but it sounded like you could easily get 4 a year if not more just with a basic bitch hunting license. Where anon is where he can get that many, I don't know.
>>64579508Never said I shot all 12, chungus, you merely assumed
>>64567831what caliber is that 5.45x39
>>64563729First deer was a doe taken opening day with about 5 minutes of sunlight left. Shot her with a Marlin .444 at around 70yds. Saw a small group as I was walking out. Had to low crawl under a barbwire fence, through a ditch, and up a berm to get the shot
>>64580763Second one was an 8 point doe shot with a flintlock Traditions Mountain Rifle around an hour after sun up at about 40yds. That .50 round ball does some damage. If you look closely you can actually see the bulge where the round ball is after passing through the other side.
>>645807828 point buck*Wtf, im entirely soberAlso, here's the ball i found while skinning
>>64578191Thank you! It's highly modified and I went pretty far off the beta provided stls to provide a higher accuracy product.Hoping for the end of year, but small changes keep being made in the interest of progress so I personally think prolly not till late Q1. I predict it'll release on fat Tuesday since the dev is from Louisiana.
>>64580763gave that doe the ol charlie kirk I see
>>64580222probably 7.62x54r
been hunting møøse in a team for three years now. freezers are stuffed. geezers are chuffed (to see some younger blood). haven't shot anything yet
>>64580222>>64582676It is a 54r
>>64578218>shoots the spots off fawns
Looking forward to mounting pic related. Quick release mount too, which I'm pretty stoked about
Nice young tasty moose. Shot him with a single round of .308, 178gr, at a distance of 598 yards to the head.
>>64584374He definitely looks like he was taken by surprise
>>64563897Grats. I hope I don't have to wait that long for my first. I've been at it six years.>year 1: no tag, my fault, didn't understand how the draw works>year 2: drew whitetail tag, only saw mulies>year 3: drew whitetail tag, shot at a nice buck and missed>it's okay, first day of the hunt>get the flu, never get back out >years 4 & 5: no tag
Opening rifle day. 30-06. 50ish yards. Quartering towards. Instant drop. Heart was liquified. Only got 44lbs of meat, I will take this into account for future shot placement.
>>64584885What other meat got damaged?
>>64579392I didnt ask about the processing since its pretty much the same for moose. I asked if you eat it all yourself or sell it too.
>>64584374That's fucking neat. Where was this?
>>64571896Halal grocery stores often have goat near me. worth trying it out. ive had it in stew and was pretty good but I have heard curry is better. The meat can be a bit tougher than what you may be used to so def try it first.
Are fowlers allowed?
>>64585173Forgot pic
>>64571896I've only had it in Indian food, it's fine. Realistically if we're being honest with ourselves, beef is better.I want to do animal husbandry one day and have goats, but I just want the wool and milk. I hunt and have no problem pulling the trigger, but I don't think I could kill an animal I know and see every day
>>64584374>to the headidiot>>64585175a respectable collection of birdos
>>64584903Not exactly sure. But it weighed 129lb after dressing so I was expecting a bit more than 40 lbs.
>>64571763>>64571754>>64571601Blessed effort post. Massively appreciated, anon>>64571896Picked up a taste for goat stew in Africa. It's a lot like mutton (for obvious reasons) but pretty good in dishes.
Damn saw 3 deer yesterday but came home empty handed
>>64571763All good points. I used a mora garberg on my first deer, do not recommend esp for noobie. A 20$ field dressing knife set from Walmart (with a gut hook) is vastly superior for this purpose imo.
>>64586510It took me a while to develop a taste for blue wildebeest but now I crave it. You have to beat the shit out of first and cook it twice as long as beef even though it's still so pink it looks like a blue steak.I couldn't go hunting this year because I had a self defense incident and the police have all my guns and I'm out on bail.
>>64586603why are gut hook knives so hard to find? I bought a $15 one from amazon, had to tighten those star shaped screws with locktite after about 2 years of use, still the most useful knife i can find.
>>64586510TY anon. Just threw in every little thing I could think of that might pop up.>>64586603I guess I threw in a Mora pretty much just because I carry one. Not totally rustproof but as close as I've gotten. What anon might be better off carrying is a decent knife as well as a semi-decent Stanley box cutter from the hardware store along with some spare hook and regular blades stored inside. Grab one that doesn't close with a screw so you can swap blades in the field as needed without a driver. No clue how I forgot this is a thing since my two interests ATM are small game and anything you hunt for fur. Every taxidermist uses hook blades and every taxidermist or trapper's supply store has these things available. Not to mention most box cutters can be disassembled and cleaned fully very easily. PS: carpet and hook blades are different; the carpet ones are smaller hooks without a point (fat unsharpened square edged tip). I recommend Stanley brand blades just because of known quality. They still don't last forever.>>64587051FWIW boxcutter hook blades are cheap as fuck and do 90% of what a gut hook does but you can carry 10 clean sharp edges without any real issue. I've used a combo gut hook/saw once and FWIW I'd rather carry a boxcutter and one of those P shaped hacksaw blade holders. Saw was too thick. On yours I'd be curious how easy it is to clean. The rounded tip of that gut hook might be nice, though. And I know you can sharpen that but I'd personally rather not have to. Then again, compared to the average deer hunter I think I end up skinning a lot more animals and have to cut a lot more distance; might make a lot more sense on deer. I just like how quick you can get a new or completely different edge on a boxcutter without even needing to clean it. Swap to standard boxcutter blades and you can even start skinning. Doesn't mean I don't want a nice hunting knife, though.
>>64586713Sorry to hear that, anon. Hope it works out for you.
I forgot the marshmallows again.. BUT I killed an 8 joint today, friends! I was just up there talkin to Jesus and praying again, and not even 10 minutes later I looked over and the deer was on the edge of the tree line. I’m guessing roughly about 300 yards away. Shot him with my 7mm-08.Would post pic, but I don’t wanna dox myself. I do have the head though. Probably gonna put it in an ant bed tomorrow.
>>64588758>I was just up there talkin to Jesus and praying again, and not even 10 minutes later I looked over and the deer was on the edge of the tree line.I was jokingly saying pic related to myself when I heard all the gun shots around me opener morning, then my spike buck approached about a half hour later
>>64563769Id love to hunt but im too poor and my daddy didnt buy a bunch of land when it costed 3.50 an acre :(
>>64563769nice drip btw
>>64565121How long is that barrel? Smooth bore I assume? I have a 870 special purpose deer that came with a rifled ported barrel with a scope mount and I then bought a 2nd barrel for clay, 24" smooth bore with a vented rib like yours. I've been thinking of taking it out hunting and have been leaning towards taking the smoothbore with rifled slugs over the rifled barrel.
>>64588815>>64588818I started off with my dad on state land. I am fortunate to be able to say my grandmother has 40 acres she now lets us hunt on.State land can suck but it can be done.Also, thanks. It's actually the suit my mom bought for my dad in 91 his first yer. Now I wear it because I can't find a suit as good, and my dad hunts in a homemade blind stand anyway
>>64563769Better meat than a mount.
>>64588775Jeremiah 33:3 NIV3 ‘Call to me and I will answer you and tell you great and unsearchable things you do not know.’Matthew 7:7-127 “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.9 “Which of you, if your son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10 Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? 11 If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him! 12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.——>>64588775That’s awesome! He answered you, man! God answers prayers all the time. They’re not always “Yes.” though. Sometimes He answers “No.”. Jesus truly is awesome. He’s always there. But unfortunately, not everyone is willing to actually seek Him. I’m not perfect either though.
>>64575057Yes
>>64588830It's only 20 inches. That 3 inch Brenneke slug drops them like a bag of hammers. Two bucks taken with them, I'm actually nervous about using my .30-30 next year because I don't wanna fuck up my groove.
>>64575057Find an old widow and knock the dust off that pussy for hunting access.
>>64574119>>64574257You better eat that heart with mushrooms and onions or you're a fag.
>>64563729I wanna spear hunt a boar or at least with a bow and arrow? Is this achievable
>>64589072Of course. Its just harder and more dangerous
>>64589084>More dangerousYeah I know. But hunting with a gun seems boring to me. Plus I got a death wish
>>64589102Then go boar hunting with a spear at ground level. I'm sure it would a great rush but could be rather painful. Look into the dangers of getting gored and bring a stacked first aid kit. A backup gun would be a good idea, if you are actually going to do it. As far as bows go you can easily and safely get even large game all day every day.
>>64589114I've heard wild boars would do anything to take you down. Even gore you while a spear is lodged into their head. I'll carry a gun like you said just in vase
>>64589201NTA but if you're going to spear hunt then make sure people know where the fuck you are and either have signal or some direct communication as well as a good first aid. I can't 100% remember the details, but I remember two (likely many more) stories of people almost fucking themselves with one, a spear, and the other, an arrow. One was Tim Wells who IIRC was spear hunting from a tree and somehow ended up stabbing himself in the leg, IIRC when getting down from the tree or something like that. Whatever he cut made him lose quite a lot of blood quite fast. To make things worse, he was in bumfuck africa in the middle of nowhere so he had to just hold his leg shut, keep calm, and hope he didn't bleed out by the time help came - though he did have time to record it, lol. The other, IIRC was a guy hunting with broadheads and a bow in the US in a state forest or logging area, again, middle of nowhere. He ended up fumbling an arrow somehow (whether he realized it or not) and stuck himself, once again, in the leg. Same kind of situation, he was at least a half hour out from any help arriving. Said he was very close to losing consciousness more than once and really had to focus to keep himself conscious.TL;DR: Be careful with exceedingly sharp things because hitting major blood supplies, especially in the leg = easy way to bleed out by accident. That shit lives in the back of my head all the time and I don't so much as bow hunt; the possibility of fucking up like that out in the mountains scares the fuck out of me and I'm very aware of it even though most of the hunting I do is with 22LR.
>>64588845Guess I'm a fag. We just sliced it thin and threw it on the blackstone with butter, salt, and pepper - still very tasty
>>64574257looks like a perfectly cromulent "odd 8-pointer" to me
>>64589072>>64589114Buy a riot chestplate or a steel worker's/butcher's chain hauberk. Something for your legs and hands as well. Motorcycle armor is cheap as fuck on chinese websites and although proportioned to manlet sizes well worth the price. Also, make sure the spear you're buying has FUCKING. PRONGS. Boars are dangerous enough to have forced the mideval nobles to invent a specific kind of spear solely to hunt them. Wild pigs have not gotten any less dangerous since then. Either way, godspeed you crazy and/or stupid bastard, and I eagerly await pics
>>64589072>>64590360looking forward to anon going literally medieval on the local hog population
>>64563729My 200lb doe from last year. Went 179 on the scale after the guts were out. We had a mast year for acorns last fall. This year kinda sucked. Only saw 3 deer opening weekend, shot a yearling. Need to go back out for antlerless season next weekend
>>64583907fuck yeah dude, also hunting with my rus AK in 308, classy
>>64589072I will only add to what the others have said by noting that not only are boar infamously mean, they're also disturbingly smart.Godspeed you magnificent bastard.
>>64591173this vid makes the case for having a bayonet, just in case
>>64591225I don't think that's a bad idea, if it's boar you're hunting.
Anyone have any experience with pic related ammo? I'm a fudd when it comes to guns used for hunting, but I can't help but feel a little intrigued by this load, and the novelty of using my AR in the tree.
>>64592546.223, obviously. It's a 69grn bullet
>>64592546>>64592551What is the point of the green plastic bit? Maintaining the FMJ shape so you keep the same velocity, while also permitting more hollow point-esque deformation?
>>64592605You'll have to ask Barnes that, I'm not a ballistician. I have to imagine the tip gives somewhat easily so the bullet can expand more easily
>>64584374>178grPrecision hunter?
>>64587051I used my friends knife this year on our moose...one blade lasted for both. I am now getting rid of the other knives that in my possession now that I have my own. Pic related, the ones I used and have since purchased.
>>64563811They are waging a war on game
How much do stands and blinds actually matter for deer hunting? Assuming I'm on good land with a decent number of deer, could I just sit on a log or something and wait for one to stroll by?
>>64577340the peep being that far forward would drive me insane
>>64594665Not him but it's surprisingly really nice. I've known multiple guys who've hunted with a type 99 rifle, and they weren't milsurp fags by any stretch of the imagination.I have one, but not taken it hunting
>>64593181I have to assume most shots were missed, or fucked up the meat. I'm talking like 3 shots in less than 2 seconds. Besides the first shot, I don't think they were even aiming
>>64594632You could, but if you can get a tree stand to put up, you'll see a hell of a lot more. You don't have to built them, just assemble and use a tie down to cinch it to the tree
>>64563729I've killed everything that walks or crawls from snakes to men, birds, boar, deer, rats, you name it, aside from lions and elephants, use a real rifle next time kid not your tactilarp toy.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9S_GiQUDlw
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Do any of you guys save the hides from your hunts and if so, have you made anything out of them? Was debating tanning the hide from the doe I got and having some gloves made out of it.>>64594665>the peep being that far forward would drive me insaneAs >>64595108 stated, the sight picture on the 99 is actually quite nice. It's definitely superior to the v notch and barley corn sight on most Mausers and is much more open than the miniscule peep sight on M1903 (not M1903A3) ladder sights. And for the ranges I was hunting in, iron sights are perfectly fine.
>>64592605It's exactly that. Aerodynamic but still opens up easily. Some think the plastic melts and wedges the bullet open sooner but its imo its probably just the larger hollow point cavity it allows. There are aluminum variations that do probably wedge the bullet open sooner.
Congrats to all of the successful anons, its nice to have a hunting thread up on this board. Im cooking up a whitetail heart for breakfast tomorrow. Took me absolutely forever to burcher this year, I usually have another set of hands. Wife was busy with a toddler this year so thats a new experience. He gave the deer a few pats said "hi deer" and that was that.He really enjoyed watching the meat grinder said "meat come out" lol and had some venison bolognaise for dinner and loved it which made it all worth it.How long does it take you all to skin and bitcher a deer solo? I think I go overboard on trimming the meat of all the silverskin, fat and anything else to make it perfect. Took me legitimately all day from skinning to vacuum sealing.
>>64596867That's what I get for typing on mobile. *butcher.
>>64596867I grilled an entire small venison leg at work today. It was excellent.
>>64596867Sorry meant to answer you butchering question on my previous post>>64596923 but got mesmerized by these new captcha.Skinning: easy when fresh but tricky when aged or frozen. Get a buddy to help with this. Depending on temps you may be forced to skin it immediately when warm, or in my case, leave the skin on when hanging to keep the deer from freezing solid. This should take 10 mins unless you're caping it for a mount.Butchering: the more aged the deer the easier this step is. If you have proper temps to hang a whole deer for a week you can get the roasts apart by hand and make no mess at all. If you are forced to butcher it asap, it's gonna be a bloody mess. Two guys can break down a deer from carcass to primal cuts and trim in about an hour. The grinder eats all the silver skin. I only cut the waxy fat, leave the rest.
>>64596986Not him but I guess that's what took me so long, I wrestled silver skin the whole live long day
>>64596986Appreciate the info, with my work schedule I generally have to skin the day I shoot and butcher the next day. If I ever have the opportunity I will have to try out aging it for a bit and see how that works for me. I am in the northeast so its still warm during archery but rifle is definitely cold. Just trimming the waxy fat would speed me up by hours to be honest and the prospect of breaking apart muscle groups by hand sounds wonderful. I and this anon >>64597016 probably feel very similar, like a surgeon with a scalpel cleaning up the cuts. You are right about the bloody mess, I am probably overdoing it but want to make sure I am ending up with a quality product at the end of the day. I keep refining the process and year by year.
>>64597033It's the last time I use cheap knives. They can stay sharp for a little, but it's not good enough. From quartering to butchering, I felt like a civil war doctor at Gettysburg, not like a surgeon.My first year being involved entirely in the whole process; I hadn't hunted in almost 20 years, and when I did I was a teenager with way too weak of a stomach to hack it...that's actually the main reason I stopped all those years, felt if I couldn't do the gross shit, I shouldn't be out there.Really fucking glad to be back though, and getting back in touch with my roots as well.
I'm kind of interested in deer hunting, but I'm not sure if I could stomach gutting a deer out in the woods. I'd be fine with all the other processing afterward, but the thought of pulling out the guts unnerves me. I'm sort of a germophobe. Is there anything I could do to cope with that, or will I just have to grow some balls and stick it out?
>>64597369>or will I just have to grow some balls and stick it out?I'm struggling with that issue, and the answer simply is balls. You can also use orange squishy earplugs as nose plugs and that can help a lot
>>64596867Not a deer hunter but the taxidermist autist in me insists I must keep the hide intact because I never know what I might do with it and holes are a bitch. Easily 1-2 hours for a raccoon or fox. God help me. Better when I get hides to work on at least once a week and get into it but the feet are the biggest bitch as you have to do each toe to the end. I often leave that for future me when I need to use the hide. (wet) Storage often makes the fat and membrane easier to peel off anyways.>>64597154Might want to look into bulk packs of scalpel blades. Cheap but decent ones. And sharpen your knife, and get a honing rod. Maybe make a strop to use with a clean knife. The edge is everything. Learn to yank the skin when you get to free spots. Don't make it harder than it has to be. If it pulls free, by god, pull! Some professional trappers have an electric winch and clamp their hide on the floor and use the electric winch to yank up on the gambrel. To have that luxury, holy shit!>>64597369Start in small game like squirrel; they're the best smelling I've ever found. Least gross inside. Stomach and intestine the least nasty if they get broke. Bladder maybe 5/8" or 3/4" max size. Even the old ones don't look nasty in the mouth or guts. You're going to still have to use a pinky or something to shove the guts out of the pelvis but they're pretty clean and are about the least disgusting as it gets inside an animal. Hunting them teaches you a lot about hunting other game too. Dust mask helps for smell if you need. As do fans. Glove up - but be aware you lose your grip and feeling some when you are gloved up. I still do it, but it makes it real easy to cut yourself. If you do, gloves off and use some dawn and water and scrub that cut good before getting back at it with fresh gloves. Thin nitrile are great. Cutting the joints open and cutting certain areas were what got my stomach when first getting into taxidermy; curiosity helped, though.
one of the local vegans is looking into getting a hunting license so I'm lending them my literature. some their friends looked at us quizzically but I told them not to question it>>64597471>taxidermistyour tism telling you to do the whole thing is honestly pretty cool. we throw away so many moose parts each year and sell the hides for cheap. it has struck me more than once that it should totally be possible to taxidermy one. or a whole family, if someone were willing to give up their antlers for it
>>64596820>>64595108I feel like even the skinner sight being on the receiver and not the tang of the rifle is kind of annoying. Like if the rear peep is father than nose to charging handle on an AR I find it weird
>>64594632when you are elevated you can see better, it's an advantage, also when in a blind stay out of the wind and cold so you can hunt longer
bobcat on my trail cam few days ago, northern WI, first time seeing one my entire life
>>64598674I'm assuming you learned aperture sights from an AR?Personally, nose to charging handle feels unnatural to me, but I understand it's inherently repeatable and the Marines do it that way.I learned how to shoot from really old fudd guns, so when I shoot my AR, I use the night sight peep. Probably looks goofy, but it works for me
>>64598799>the night sight peep that doesn't have the inserts and doesn't come with the night sight front sightlolyeah I primarily learned to shoot on my AR
>>64598812Hey man, when you're holding your head further back that big peep looks a lot like the 300m peep lol
>>64598956it's just weird to have all that negative space around it. I also shoot with my head basically straight up when shooting offhand. I'm probably going to sell my acog, but when I would post it people would meme about how I had it forward with no rear sight because that's how I would shoot it prone but I'd basically be using it like a occluded eye optic off hand. My AR with irons has NM sights so those are smaller than the normal ones and I still keep my head back off hand and it annoys me lol
>>64598731those fuckers are tough to spot irl, you have to be still for a long time, be on the paths they use and be downwind
>>64597016>>64597033Yes once you start ignoring the silver skin, you will be free. On the roasts, when cooked low and slow, it melts away into beautiful collagen. On the grind, it ends up wrapped around the spindle, or gets cut up. Only caveat would be on those parts you're going to cook to nearly rare, like the back straps, there's a piece of silver skin that needs to come off of there but it's as easy as filleting a fish.
>>64597755>or a whole family, if someone were willing to give up their antlers for itWith thoughts like that, Carl Akeley's Four Seasons of the Virginia Deer may interest you if you ever get near Chicago. IIRC at the time the deer population was pretty shaky so he worked pretty hard to not only hunt and taxidermise deer, but find a full set of 4 deer (mature buck, mature doe, young buck, young doe) and additionally have to find ones that had similar appearances in the other three seasons as to preserve them in case they went either extinct or near extinct so future generations could see and enjoy them as well. So he had to do:>Mature Buck: Spring/Summer/Winter/Fall>Mature Doe: Spring/Summer/Winter/Fall>Young Buck: Spring/Summer/Winter/Fall>Young Doe: Spring/Summer/Winter/FallAnd not only find, shoot, and mount them, but make his own forms (this is long before foam forms came in the 70s!) and pose them in scenes that were completely handmade, including the wax leaves. His wife may have helped (and maybe others hired by the museum?); I forget. The "snow" is sugar with arsenic in it, lol. Frankly it looks so fucking good I wish it were anything but poisoned sugar as I'd love to try to make snow that looks that good myself.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUkbYp1Gyrg
>>64599470I think I finally get the joke in King of the Hill where Dale and Peggy bring a squirrel and crow scene to a taxidermy contest and everyone just laughs at itcan't find a pic of the exact scene
>>64597384>>64597471Thanks for the advice, anons.
>>64601345?
>>64597369For some people it's the smell. For others it's the sight. I've hunted with both types and my grandfather who was a big game guide was like that. With my grandfather he would go puke and then get back to business gutting. A guy I hunted with this year though it was mostly smell but even the sight of it. Even with me, certain smells make me gag, generally if I'm helping gut an animal that someone gut shot or accidentally cut open the stomach, I'll gag.Some get over it, other's do not.
>>64603987This. I found it ironic that the people who helped me this year gutting and quartering (though I did the quartering myself with their guidance), are dudes who will puke if they go into a stinky bathroom; meanwhile I can handle a stinky bathroom but not gutting.I like to think my tendency to fall in as camp cook makes up for that somewhat
>>64602499oh yeah that's the one
>>64596923Sweet. Damnit I just wanna take a bite off my screen right now
>>64571957is this bait
>>64588758>>64588775Positively blessed anon.
>>64598731>>64599018Meanwhile here in Texas these little guys just casually show up in the greenbelt parks here in north DFW suburbs. Saw one last year crossing the walking path. It was a BIG fucker too.
>>64601345Reminds me of when I was a young teenager. My mom had a turkey my grandfather had shot in our freezer for MONTHS until they could get it to the taxidermist. He made a beautiful model out of it though. The work he did was always very well staged, using wood or grass to set a scene.
I'd love to get into hunting. Never did it growing up, dad was a fisherman but not a hunter. I bought a Ruger American Predator in .308 last year and mounted a decent scope on it. Had planned to give it a go last season. Then I got my wife pregnant immediately after that and my son was born during Deer season so I couldn't get out there. I didn't end up going this year either but plan on going next season (unless I get my wife pregnant again. She seems to be actively trying to get pregnant.)Wife is also interested in taxidermy which is cool. Maybe I could go out and do some small game hunting and have her take a crack at stuffing bunnies or something.
>>64574119>if only you knew how bad things are.jpg
>>64606987>Ruger American Predatoris the rifle for shooting predators or is it because you're a predator?
>>64607043As far as I can tell, it's a "Predator" in the sense that it has a threaded 18" barrel.I can't call myself a predator if I've never hunted, dingus.
>>64608584why would 18 inches and a threaded barrel make it a predator? and you're a predator, just not of game animals
>>64606987>Wife is also interested in taxidermy which is cool. Maybe I could go out and do some small game hunting and have her take a crack at stuffing bunnies or something.Biggest pain in the butt for starting taxidermy (IMO) is tanning, but tanning makes scraping the membrane and fat off the hide easier. I've done no-tan taxidermy (you know, "ain't real taxidermy", "the wrong way") but upon drying, the hide likes to pull away from the form and shrink a little, like around the armpits. Tanned or not, you should probably use some glue which should prevent that some; IIRC a lot of guys use Titebond and Chuck uses Titebond with Pine-Sol (back when it had pine oil) to prevent molding when drying and for bugproofing. Bunnies are pretty thin skinned. Squirrel is easier but they're so small and the paws are tiny to skin and clean out completely, go for greys. Foam forms for squirrels are stupid cheap compared to pretty much anything else, literally like $10-20. Biggest pain is making their face look good because their front teeth are exposed like 95% of the time so if you don't somehow include them, they look all funny and rounded off up front. Same with a lot of furbearers/predators, but using or replicating canines and shoving them up under the lip is probably pretty easy and gets the job done. If she gets into it, be sure to buy glass eyes from McKenzie or another supplier. Small game is somewhat easy as the black glass "bubble eyes" are real cheap and have no specific direction they need to go in. Furbearers have their mostly species specific styles and sizes. Downside to those furbearers is that it's a lot harder to "just have some spares" as not only do different species and individuals have slightly different eyes, but the size varies. Harder yet is forms; no "just having some spares" due to price and the need to measure. It can ship while the bark tan works, though, which works out.Also, PS: Check out Amy's Taxidermy. She has some great videos.
>>64606987Anyways, if you're looking at getting some taxidermy stuff for Christmas or something, I'd start off with:>soft plastic "taylor's" tape measure for measuring for forms (~$2-4, bare, not retracting/cased style)>double-handled fleshing knife (~$20)>skinning knife of some kind, best cheap one is a Stanley box cutter + reg blades + hook blades IMO (~$20-30 with ex. blades)>skinning gambrel (~$15 @ Minnesota Trapping Supply, or as free gift option with order of ~$50-80)>S-hook for hanging that gambrel (~$3)>S-hook tool for closing one end of the S-Hook (optional, ~$5 or free gift option)>Wood eye screw for securing it into a ceiling joist (~$5, pre drill this!) >Additional thin large S-hooks, sharpened, for optional use through the heel of an animal (the loops slip sometimes once you got the feet off)>Lots of nitrile gloves in a size that fits well>Rubber apron because having to use a trashbag all the time sucks ($???, IIRC Minnesota Trap Supply carries them)>Use a wood plane to shape a half a non-treated 2x6 into a fleshing beam and maybe use a 2x4 for small game because fuck the insane prices I've seen for these things (~$5-8 for a 2x6 and ~$4 for a 2x4)Note the beam will either need something to be pressed against, like the bottom of a counter or workbench, or it will need a stand which you can make from the other half of the 2x6 and 2x4. Also that's about all I can think of ATM. Making custom scenes with 2 part foam can be fun; Amy goes into that in some videos but I'd advise lots of ventilation as there's no scent to it offgassing. It's also temperature sensitive which affects how much it expands. Good thing it isn't cold or anything ATM lol. Also, the dust when you scrape that stuff, holy shit. Works like a dream with a Stanley Surform (~$10-15) as well as the foam forms but that dust is fucking nuts, and itchy. Not sure if she just wants to process the hide or skin as well so I included it all.
>>64610421>>64610468Hey, thanks for the comprehensive input. I'll save this.
>>64611329YW. You might also want to treat the fleshing boards with something like Howard's Cutting Board Oil; it's the clear/white one, not Feed N Wax (yellow). I use that to keep the fat and stuff out of the wood fibers. There's some other things I wanted to mention but I can't remember unfortunately. For the hand plane, you don't need anything fancy as long as it's sharp and you work with the grain. Shit, I used an old Stanley 110. For me it was even faster and easier than trying a 60 grit belt sander. Round the top tip copying what you see online, and round the rest of it behind the tip, kind of like it's the edge of a log. Makes more sense when you have the round fleshing knife to see how it sits on your beam. Then when done, sand it to smooth it and work it up to 120-400 grit or so to get it smooth and oil it.Also if you order from McKenzie, Van Dyke's, or Payer Eyes (same company), absolutely call them to place your order, get shipping quotes, and request cheapest shipping and make sure they don't break up your shipment as if you don't do that, shipping can get a little nuts. Might be able to pick up your order as well if you live in TX, PA, NC, or a couple other states. Also the more you spend the bigger the discount you get IIRC. And you can cross-order between McKenzie and Van Dykes if you do a phone order, so if you need a form only Van Dyke's sells and eyes only McKenzie sells, they'll let you do that as long as you tell them which is from where IIRC.
>>64611329Also Evercoat red body filler hardener plus Bondo eliminates the need for ear liners. I think that's what I wanted to mention. Fuck ear liners. Bondo makes it easy and they're custom fit because you just fill the ears with putty when inside out starting from the top corner to eliminate air bubbles and massage it around. A pin prick in the top of the ear can supposedly let you bleed excess air. Hardens super quick, though; I do one ear at a time. When it's nearly hardened, cut off the excess that's gathered under the base of the ear. Just a mess if it gets in the fur; immediately use acetone to wipe it out. Evercoat is "necessary" as Bondo went to a blue hardener like 3 years ago. Much harder to notice through hides and doesn't show as bad if you mess up. Some taxidermists recommend chopped glass fiber as filler but I don't really think it's necessary. Maybe nice on deer, things with huge ears like that. Pretty stinky stuff, wear gloves and a respirator. Little things like that make taxidermy much easier IMO; the ear liners available for anything but deer seem to suck ass anyways. And clay. You can just buy the box of natural clay from Michael's or use Critter Clay or some fancy taxidermist's clay. You'll need it to sculpt details into the face whether that's to add what's missing from the form or even just to add back what was lost when fitting (shaving) the form.The mistake a lot of people make is to accidentally cut at your edges too close. Leave lots of lip on the hide, cut it just at the top of the gumline and split the inside and outside of the lip to create a flat sheet. I struggle trying to do similar on eyelids but it can be done IIRC. Ear canals are cut thru all the way down against the skull. That's true anywhere you have an opening or something that needs detail work; you'll never be mad at yourself for leaving yourself "too much skin" to tuck into the the form as you can always trim it later. Patching holes sucks.
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>>64563729Nothing more pussy than being a hunter. Gets your little pp hard acting like you are a big strong man.
>>64616252>t. noguns metropolis fag
>>64606683up here there are canadian lynxes that occasionally migrate down from the north, the native bobcats are easier to spot but the leafcats are not
Alright whose got the biggest buck this year?
>>64618367Wasn't me, my buck was probably only 2yrs old
>>64563729dove hunting is the best type of hunting and no one can change my mind.literally just set up a L shaped ambush with the boys while drinking beers. get to shoot 12-15 birds each. its a ton of fucking fun
>>64619369I wanna go grouse hunting, I know we have them on the 40. They just appear and disappear so fucking fast, it's like by the time you hear "WOOP WOOP WOOP" flapping away it's already too late. The one time I went years ago, all I got was a rabbit, my cousin got one though
>>64563729>>what was your targetGood sized whitetail doe 150 yards from my position in a hay field>>what did you use.357 Henry Big Boy X with an Osprey 45 suppressor and a Primary Arms 1x prism shooting 140gr Leverevolution>>how was the shotHeld slightly above the center back, hit just behind the shoulder about halfway down the torso, hit one lung but not the other I think, no exit wound>>anything interestingDeer jumped high in the air and ran another 150 or 200 yards before dropping dead further down the field. Esophagus was full of congealed blood when I guted it. Chest cavity was a soupy mess. Ice pick entry wound and no exit wound meant there was no blood trail, so I was lucky it keeled over in the hay field and not in the woods nearby. Didn't bother to recover the bullet, probably should have>lesson learnedDon't take shots that far with .357 as even a clean hit is dicey, switch to one of the newfangled straight wall cartridges for better penetration and flatter trajectory, .357 is still a pretty cool cartridge tho despite its shortcomings.
>>64597369You just have to man up, gutting is absolutely vital and there's no sense in dragging the carcass around with the guts still inside. Get some elbow length gloves and nitrile gloves to go over top of the elbow gloves. You can buy gutting glove kits. The gloves definitely make me feel better about it.
>>64563729Not allowed to hunt in my state with any of the guns I own due to cartridge restrictions so I don't bother.
>>64621977>didn't recover bulletDamn shame. I'm tempted to dig out a little handheld pinpointer to double check my game but at this point as a sub-big game hunter I think I've done pretty well for recognizing when a bullet is recoverable. Hell it's usually basically just under the skin or there's an obvious red soft spot along the spine.
>>64599064Nice asbestos roof, faggot.
>>64563997kek look at that dog eating that moose's pussy
>>64598731>northern WI
>>64588839where do you find thoseI dont even care about hunting I'm just trying to knock the dust off of some pussy
