Why don't younger generations like guns anymore? I was a city kid and everyone thought guns were awesome and everyone would go hunting every summer. Now it seems like they're just scared of a gun biting them on the ass. I was cleaning my gun the other day and my neice saw me and she acted like I was wiring a bomb or something.
>>64604268To a kid it might well look like you're bomb defusing depending on how much you'd taken your gun apart.Honestly If a small kid shows respect to the power of a firearm that's the better option, than treating them like a toy.Best situation is it becoming a teachning situation where you can properly train em up.
>>64604268Must be a you problem. I went out shooting with my littlest brother the other day and he had a whale of a time with my marlin. Guns are cool so there will always be kids that think they're cool, but there will also always be hypochondriacs that hate cool things
>>64604268Short answer: Boomers
maybe they're afraid of you not the gun
>>64604268Dude the younger generations (Z and alpha) are some of the most pro-gun ever. It's hunting that's falling off because>Retarded laws>Retarded boomer cultureBut what you bitched about sounds like you're an autistic creep or something
>>64604311>Retarded laws>Retarded boomer culturemore like>its time consuming>its a mess>it costs money>it requires a car>its slightly more exciting than hunting in DayZ>it requires a big fridge unless you love throwing meat away
>>64604311Also because people are fucking jackasses that will magdump blindly into bushes like they're fighting the fucking VC or something. I used to live in Houston, in the part of town where it wasn't uncommon to be woken up by gunfire, and yet the only time I've nearly been shot was on public hunting land
>>64604319Well I just meant kids in general
>>64604320A truck. Like hell anyone is putting a buck in their trunk or on their roof
>>64604329No. Browns are having plenty of kids. America is still above replacement birthrate, but the people replacing the current population are all children of immigrants.
>>64604268Young people, especially men, don't do anything anymore because they're all broke and everyone is judgemental dickhead all the time.
>>64604311A lot of the gun-interested/owning gen Z are also urbanites/suburbanites, with zero experience or particular need for hunting and more interested in defensive and tactical/larp shooting like the vidya and film that roped them into guns in the first place. Not exactly a good or bad thing, but the center of youth gun culture is currently swinging in a different direction
>>64604348>America is still above replacement birthrateIt's not.
>>64604330yeah ok even more annoying.
>>64604348This post is literally just not true in any way, kek
>>64604268hunting specifically has been on the decline since the 1970s and is a bitch to get into on your own so if the hunting generational thing was broken it's hard to get it back.
>>64604348Migrant birthrates tend to decline to the level of the surrounding population within 1-2 generations. That's why they're importing more and more waves of them and accelerating the total social disintegration of America.
>>64604268Video games and rap music have ruined our youth. Boys were better off getting molested by thier priests and scoutmaster, than simping after gangsters on MTV.
>>64604329no, nonwhites, especially latinxes and latinas are having kids. jeets and muslims are having kids or they are importing there kids here or some shit.
>>64604370Is MTV still a thing anymore?
>>64604372>t. Cletus McWigger>>64604370>t. Maurice Bell, retiree
>>64604376Yea. But it's like 99% Ridiculousness and 1% Tyler Perry movies.
>>64604354it's been like that forever, btw. hunting peaked in the 1970s, in 1977 you had the revolt in Cincinnati where the NRA went from muh hunting muh sportsmen to more pro gun in general after being more fudd prior to 1977 and in 1985 the modern CCW/self defense movement was created in Florida and most of the current gun culture is based on the CCW/self defense movement and vidya. one of the big reasons why savage stopped making the savage 99, why fake winchester went under and stopped making guns in the US and why the whole remingshit, marling H&R shit happed was due to hunting declining in the 90s and 2000s. I legit don't know how henry, mossberg and savage are in business. And I'm assuming most of ruger's sales are in their handguns and ARs
>>64604383go to a school. most of the kids are some kind of brown, either latinx, jeet or muslim
>>64604388Ruger makes hunting rifles?
>>64604390how would you know man? the last time you went to school was in 2010
>>64604390Maybe in your ghetto-tier shithole school district, Cletus, but not in mine
>>64604388>ruger american>ruger 77>fucking 10/22>ruger number fucking onegive yourself a three day ban
>>64604354The development and (sub)urbanization of the country has been relentless. Everywhere is crowded. There's less space to do things.
>>64604402I have literally never heard of any of these except the 10/22>t. born in '99, don't hunt
>>64604390How the fuck am I supposed to go to a school?
>>64604403If there were actual proper urbanization, there would be way more space to do /out/ and /k/ activities. A lot of western states are emblematic of this. In most of the country however you get patchwork towns, farm fields, and sprawling suburbs because everyone has to have his own yard and can't even imagine having to walk around town to take care of errands
>>64604393>>64604402Ruger makes like 100 skus of hunting rifles with slightly different chamberings, colors and barrel lengths>>64604394>>64604399>t. no kidssure thing there, incel
>>64604407You're not missing out honestly, it's pretty boring unless you're going for birds or squirrels but even that's more annoying than funt. Fellow '99
>>64604383>cannot refute, can only insult
>>64604409have kids
>>64604365Reddit
>>64604427In this economy?
>>64604426>cannot refute>both posts replied to are obviously delusionalDelusions cannot be refuted, no
>>64604268At least in my case, by the time I became interested in firearms all the people in my family who did hunt had either passed away or had falling outs and were generally unreachable. And secondly I hate deer, which is kind of the only thing people hunt where I am, not like a vermin but like they creep me out and I will not eat venison
>>64604388>And I'm assuming most of ruger's sales are in their handguns and ARsThe American is one of the two most popular options for entry-level boltguns right there with the Savage Axis and the 10/22 has been the gold standard for self-loading .22s for like 50+ years at this point. IIRC they've made like 11 million of them.>>64604447>and I will not eat venisonWhy's that?
>>64604447Why does the deer creep you out, anon?
>>64604416It's not even so much that people want yards. A lot of suburban developments, especially upscale ones, are engineered to waste space and make everything a 20+ minute car ride to trick customers, sorry residents, into believing they live in the countryside, despite being surrounded by highways and parking lots.
>>64604434and now you know why the global bankers shat up the economy>>64604453what's the margin on a 10/22 and how many people are buying bolt guns? most new gun sales are handguns
>>64604460I'm well aware. I live in Phoenix, one of the worst offenders of American suburb hell. And yet even in Phoenix it's pretty easy to go out and shoot, because once you're outside of the city, it's mostly wilderness. You can shoot basically anything, anywhere. One time me and some friends were shooting Tannerite targets up north. Forest rangers came by, asked what the explosions were, we explained, and they just said "okay sounds good stay safe". This is absolutely impossible in much of the country, because there's always a town nearby, crisscrossing roads to some ancient hamlet or farmhouse in the middle of nowhere, local noise laws because fucking everywhere is inhabited, etc. It's absolutely miserable and it's why I moved back west
>>64604268Lack of fathers. Single mom raised kids. I'm 35, and only one of my friends is married. The others are dating moms with kids. And they're white, the inner city has been doing this for generations.Is this where it is everywhere else too?
>>64604268I’m a younger zoomer who wants to go hunting but I have not because it’s just not accessible. The startup cost is kind of high. The area I live in has been so developed that if I were to hunt now I would have to drive at least an hour and a half out to a place not accessible to my car nor can I afford a suitable vehicle in today’s economy There are private clubs much closer but the membership requirements are so strict it feels like the only way in is to have Illuminati money (seriously the club my grandfather was able to hunt dove at is now so selective there is zero chance he could get in today). Public land (at least here) isn’t free entry, I need to win a lottery for a tag and the odds seems biased in favor of those who have been hunting for a long time. On top of all that I will need specialty nonlead ammo which tbf isn’t that expensive at the volume hunters shoot it’s just another expense
>>64604268I dont hunt because I blew my "gun money" on a BCM, have no job, have no truck (though i could probably use one of my parents trucks), no money and really don't know where or how to start.
>>64604268they limit tags more every year, they increase the cost every year, and if you're in the east there's not much public land.
>>64604560>don't know where or how to startGo where the deer are. If they are not there, look again.
Eh. I’ve been pretty proactive in getting kids into it and I’ve had mixed results. My nephew just plays videogames and I’m just waiting for him to come out of the closet at this point. Never did scouts or sports. Just fucking vidya. My niece has enjoyed shooting somewhat but ain’t a killer. Most girls aren’t. My best friends kid is picking up their slack. Bunch of GWOT veteran rednecks he calls uncle and he’s slayed deer in three states this year because of it. Proud of the little guy. The key is getting them out when they’re young imo. Take away the fucking electronics and sit them in the woods with nothing to do when they’re 6 until they start flipping rocks over and when you introduce them try to get them plenty of action. Dove, duck, goose, coon, squirrel, and rabbit are easier for kids than sitting in a deer stand freezing their asses off. Thats my plan with my son. Hes getting my old 20 gauge and a beagle puppy for Christmas when he turns 8.
>>64604560I used to run the Hunter Recruitment thread on /out/ before we migrated to discord. Ask and I will literally walk you through it.>Do you have Hunters Safety?First step. It’s a fun class. Now you can do most of it online but I really enjoyed it as a kid. So much I was excited when my dad made me do it a second time because my brother decided to take it. It’s good for life and you can knock out your field day in a weekend if you need to.>LicenseWhat state do you live in? I will literally link you their web page. Usually runs about $25 plus tax>What do you want to hunt?This is where permits and gear come into play. Tell me what state and I can provide another link. You can get a lot done with any old car, a 12 gauge 870 is $300 and will take damn near anything in America, a knife, and orange vests from Walmart are $8. Every state is way different when it comes to permits and tags though. Sometimes you’re guaranteed a deer tag just for living there. Sometimes you’re going to have to draw. If you live out west and think you might maybe one day want to hunt a moose or some shit start building preference points now.>Where?Most states have public land. I can link their public maps as well. What game species you’re after will determine where you should go though.>How do I do it?I usually suggest by starting small. Work your way up. If you just go walk around looking for squirrels you’re going to find animal signs and figure out a lot about scouting from there. Eventually you get a sense for it. Game is earned by boot leather.>Squirrels like to eat walnuts>Look for walnut trees>Oh hey there’s a walnut tree across the creek let’s look over there for squirrels>Oh hey there’s a game trail that leads to the shallowest part of the creek to cross>Oh hey there’s deer tracks here. Deer must cross here maybe I should come back here during deer season>Oh hey I heard a turkey gobble maybe I should come here for turkey season
>>64604505>Dating women older than 27Just knock up some skank and split your time. Find a young girl with endometriosis that can’t have a kid and they’re desperate for step mom status. Never have to wear a rubber again either.
>>64604704>Hunters SafetyNo>LicenseNo. I'm in NYC.>What to huntPigeons, squirrels, rats.>WhereNYC>How do I do itPoint and shoot dumbass. I need to know how I can safely discharge a hunting firearm within NYC without getting a million cops on my ass.
>>64604611>Hes getting my old 20 gauge and a beagle puppy for Christmas when he turns 8.Gonna give him Saving Shiloh or Where the Red Fern Grows while you're at it?
>>64604722>playa
>>64604268BoomersYeah i guess fishcops are a pain tooBut mainly boomers>.t young hunter who forces himself to go out just to get my hands dirty for quality meat
>>64604731>Hunting in NYCPellet gun behind the dumpster. Also if you’re a dog person look up the Ryders Alley Trencher Society. They go around kicking dumpsters and letting their dogs smoke rats. It actually looks like a shit ton of fun. No license required. No public land required. And people seem to love them. Like they straight up just walk onto private property with their dogs and start fucking shit up and NOBODY says shit about it. Shit they got fucking awards for it from the city council. They’ve turned the local homeless into an intelligence network for killing rats. Get yourself a Jack Russel and enjoy the carnage.
>>64604742Shiloh was gay. The kid from Where the Red Fern Grows was a fucking fairy. Jack London books shit on both. Ol’ Yeller is bested only by Savage Sam who is GOATed.
>>64604388>I legit don't know how henry, mossberg and savage are in business.Henry isn't that big so they can survive on lower sales, Savage sells decent enough rifles for poor ruralites that still hunt. Mossberg has successfully pivoted at least in part to the tactical/LARP market. No one buys 870s anymore, because the new ones are all dogshit. That means if you want a 'tactical' shotgun you're either getting a 500/590 or shelling out over a thousand dollars for a nice semiauto.
>>64604801Savage 110s are a really good deal at the price point. Their adjustability makes them pretty based.
>>64604781>Jack LondonOnly read Whitefang and Call of the Wild, but I acknowledge London's worth. Ol' Yeller was great, but did not know there was an actual sequel. Having kids read early is important now more than ever.
Killing animals for sport is gay.
>>64604722Why would I want to knock up some chick I don't want to spend time with raising the child?
>>64604832>Did not know there was a sequel2. In Savage Sam Travis, Arliss, and the slutty neighbor girl get snatched up by Indians and Ol’ Yellers son leads the posse assembled to find them and some mild cannibalism occurs. In the third Arliss gets in a fight at school, catches a horse, and slays pussy because he’s just incredibly based.The Big Red series by Jim Kjelgaard was pretty good as well.
>>64604836Trust me after a year or two you won’t want to spend time with any of them. Just try to find a timid one. They’re less likely to get shitty in court.
>>64604874A plan with the intention to fail is a shitty plan.
>>64604407Born in 80... fuck Ruger and you didn't miss anything. But cheap surp yeah I got a $90 mosin 91/30 hex and a sino-soviet sks for $250. AK was $390 or so.
>>64604887If your plan is to hope and have faith in women I’ve got some bad news for you. Just pass on your genetics and have some fun.
>>64604834this kids a lot of kids were brought up in the hippy dippy mindset that lingered from the last generation and most kids don't actually like killing animals especially because they've been taught about scarcity of resources since inceptionthey do like shooting a lot though but more on the hobby/sport side lot of younger dudes into pistol comps and PRS type stuff but they mostly ping steel
>>64604898Why would I want to raise a kid in a broken household? That's fucking stupid, anon. The fathers who aren't raising their kid with their wives look like they're living just as shitty lives as the people raising other people's kids. Different sides of a shitty coin.
>>64604912And how do we fix that?>Find a good womanAnd when the good women are all gone?>…We start taking care of ourselves and our kids and fuck the women.
>>64604898Not the way a White man should act nor should White children be left to such a fate. I'd raise them alone if it came down to it.
>>64604926I'd rather not have a kid than knock up some random bitch I'll hate. I get that you're bitter after failing, but you could just not fail instead of planning to fail.
>>64604939No this isn’t how white WOMEN should act yet here we are. Put them back in the kitchen and let them out for church on Sundays. Until then we’re all just wasting our time.
>>64604459>>64604453idk man, they're just weird looking and unsettle me
>>64604459>antlersThere's a penis isn't there?
>>64604958If you can't find a woman who wants to be around you, the problem is in the mirror.
>>64604801I don't think they even currently make 870s. as far as I know mossberg is the only one who is making domestic shotguns unless you count like the 5 guns ithaca makes a year that don't even have price tags on their website so I don't think they make shit, the super expensive hand made stuff and I think henry's the only one making single shots. like the fact ruger doesn't make shotguns and smith and keltech only make meme shit shotguns say a lot>>64604823>>64604801savage and ruger both make really good bolt guns for the price, I'm just pretty sure the bolt gun market isn't that large anymore since ARs are so cheap and like what are you going to use a bolt gun for? it's usually either hunting, shooting comps not a lot of people do or shooting out past 300 yards, which not a lot of people do. And for the last point, there are a decent number of people who are going to take an AR or a .308 AR out to 500 or 600 yards and most competitive target shooters are either shooting high power with ARs or shooting small bore with .22s.it's like a super niche thing
>>64605076something like 5% of men are having 50% of all penis in vagina sex in the US. were at an all time bad time in terms of men being incels which is intentional due to shit like tinder, metoo and bumble intentionally shitting everything up
>>64605076I saw a sexy son of a bitch.
>>64604834Same, just don't see the point of killing something if you ain't eating it or it's not a threat
>>64604268>High barrier for entry in certain areas.>Labyrinthine laws and regulations as well as access problems especially in the East Coast.>No generational knowledge, Gen X parents largely failed to pass down hunting knowledge, which often stems from Boomers doing the same>Certain states such as Texas have absolutely no public hunting access, either gatekept by boomers, require paying a guide or land owner a lot of money, or knowing landowners (which many younger people don't)>Certain states change their hunting availability from year to year, some require residents to enter a lottery to hunt but automatically issue non-resident tags, other times its the inverse. Some states will limit which game units have availability to drive sales or due to ecological factors such as a population collapse.>Guns, trapping equipment, kit, etc all cost money and Gen Z is the most under-employed generation in a very long time. Most live in apartments if they live by their lonesome and won't have a space to process deer at home, so they'll have to rely on processors which also cost money on top of everything else.Almost every reason I can boil down to boomers to some degree, unironically. t. Hunting guide and naturalist
>>64604268They're getting their violent tendencies out via vidya.
>>64604907>>64604834>>64605121I hear you're argument and I counter withfuck geese
>>64605127Is it true that those annoying fuckers are delicious?
>>64605124Furthermore...>4H and youth programs have been gutted, often lacking funding or losing donors.>Even when young people ask for help, they're often met with disdain or given purposefully bad information to make things harder for them. Boomers often see younger hunters as a threat to "muh trophy bucks".>More younger people live in urban areas making access to hunting much more difficult than the past. Urban sprawl and developments have largely destroyed large portions of available woodland or prairie near to urban centers.
>>64604445Delusions can be refuted with facts. You can't refute it because you know the facts aren't on your side.
>>64604320>it requires a car Is this supposed to be a problem? Are zoomers scared of cars AND guns?This world is circling the fucking drain....so sick of these pussies
>>64605193Anon go look at the price of a sub 10 year old car right now
>>64605193Zoomers can't AFFORD a car you fucking dunce, more of them are having to borrow family vehicles for their day-to-day use because the average used car costs more than they make in a year. Cheap beaters that actually function are increasingly rare.
>>64605193Have you been car shopping recently? It's fucking bonkers
>>64604834You're an embarrassment to your ancestors with that attitude
>>64605121>just don't see the point of killing something if you ain't eating itThere are basically zero game animals out there that you can't eat. I have an uncle who ate mountain lion, and I had some too. Wasn't great, wasn't terrible. Tasted a little like organ meat but was very tender after a few hours in a crock-pot.About the only thing I'd hunt but not eat is an animal that tastes uniquely bad or an unhealthy/sickly animal, which sometimes happens. And even then you can usually give the meat away. Venison from coastal brown bears in Alaska absolutely reeks of rotting salmon in the fall (so much so that you're not even legally required to harvest it) but even so there are plenty of locals who will be happy to take the meat as free dog food.>>64605124>>64605172Most of these seem like flatlander and/or coastie problems, honestly. Pretty much everywhere out west (except C*lifornia) has no shortage of productive public land, the regs are straightforward and resident tags are downright cheap. The most significant issue might be getting a good tag, but even so almost every state sells leftover licenses OTC after the draw(s). I suppose that there's a slightly higher practical barrier to entry because to chase game around the mountains you need some outdoor skills but it's pretty much just hiking.>>64605131NTA but yeah, geese are primo eating.
>>64605127Sure, maybe geese are avian niggersBut I'm still keeping (eating) what I kill
>>64605200>>64605205>>64605207It's not that hard to save up a couple thousand bucks and buy a decent used car. But you retard consumers won't settle for anything less than some computer machine car built in the last 3 years. Go buy a bus ticket pussy boys LOL
>>64605207Yeah seriously. Even in 2023, I bought a new Subaru and paid $25k out the door. Same exact car to the same exact spec just the new model year is $35-$38k. Used cars are even sillier, I browse Facebook Marketplace for fun and in the past year I'd say maybe 5-6 cars worth a fuck to buy as a starter car have popped up. Everything else is dangerously rusted, has some sort of catastrophic failure which will cost additional thousands to fix, or have computer problems which you can rarely fix at home.
>>64605222It is actually.
>>64605225I bought a Grand Am for $3k just a couple years ago and it had no problems, still doesn't. It's from early 2000s. Don't be so stuck up you don't need a 2030 vehicle gay son
It's because every time someone posts a picture of someone in a costume posting with a toy gun or whatever, a hundred faggots in the comments will screech about "MUH TRIGGER DISCIPLINE". This conditions people to either a. think guns are scary death machines that will randomly go off if you hold them slightly wrong, or b. think gun owners are annoying pedantic spazzy redditors.Basically cringey larperators and their "gun culture" have ruined guns. Nobody just has an AR anymore, now they have camo and plates and do faggy drills and shit, and the average normie doesn't want to be associated with that
>>64605214>Most of these seem like flatlander and/or coastie problems, honestly.That's where most people live, hence why zoomers aren't hunting. I live in Idaho and the problems still do exist here especially on the education side and ESPECIALLY on the affordability side since zoomers are leaving these areas in droves to move to urban centers to get away from $14/hr dead end Dollar General jobs. The issue of states curtailing resident tags stems from my experience in the Dakotas, not the East Coast.
>>64605234I have numerous cars from the 80s and 90s, the availability for used cars is dismal. I'm glad you have a vehicle that functions, most shit you see on Facebook or Craigslist is going to have some major problem unless it was owned by some grandmother who garaged it. Live anywhere with salt, 20+ year old cars are going to have major problems.
>>64605222car prices also jumped a ton because they are putting electro shit no one wants in them. the current US car fleet is the oldest it's ever been https://www.carscoops.com/2025/05/the-average-age-of-vehicles-in-the-us-is-higher-than-you-might-think/
>>64605214Mountain lion sucks and the only worthwhile way to cook it is crock pot or pressure cooker. Very stringy, I always make it into pulled barbeque sandwiches.
>>64605121Most people do eat some part of what they kill, even on trophy animals. Taxidermy does not require any of the meat at all, and is often harvested for use. I don't know many people who just kill stuff for the sake of it, often times there's so byproduct used (pelts, leather, feathers, bones, antlers or horns, meat).
>Increase in single mothers>Increased urbanization>More immigrants having kids and not respecting, or outright hating US gun culture>Boomer generation failing to pass on gun culture>Propaganda in schools scaring kids into hating guns with "muh active shooter boogeyman"
>>64605265I mean I'd like to bag one of the safari names even though I don't intend on eating any of them. Though I'd want to hunt down a sick or maladaptive one for the good of the population. Also I want to do it with a spear
>>64605193I dont have 30k around for a used truckMy 2026 Corolla wont last off road
>>64605291Tfw my 2001 Tacoma is worth 3x as much as I paid for it in college in 2016.
>>64605304I should've bought that ranger in high school rather than the cobalt, could've retired off that
>>64605285Based and grug pilled
>>64605240>and ESPECIALLY on the affordability sideWat. Even starting with nothing you can get all of the entry-level gear you need for <$800 and from there the financial cost is mostly just tags and a few tanks of gas for scouting trips and getting to where you leave the road. Obviously chasing late-season elk in a wilderness area isn't the same as opening weekend deer in the local NF but it's not ruinous. That's like, what, a new xbawks and a handful of games?>>64605304I sold my '90 Toyota for a slight premium to the guy I initially bought it from because I couldn't afford to re-power it at the time. Still haunts me.
>>64605069Surprisingly no, the artist is just retarded
>>64605383Or it could be a caribou
>>64605381$800 here does not go far. Housing prices in my state have climbed 25% year over year, I know tons of kids who didn't leave for major cities who can't even afford gas in town because wages haven't kept up. $800 may as well be $10k when the median income in my town is $29k.
because hunting today means paying a jackdick 1,200 dollars to stand around in his tree-line in below 40 or going to jail for poaching.
>>64605411>$800 here does not go far.It's enough for a rifle and boots and a knife and a backpack and the necessary paperwork. Regardless, that was on the high end and starting with nothing. If someone already owns a pair of boots and can borrow a rifle then it's a couple hundred bucks.>Housing prices in my state have climbed 25% year over yearFuck, tell me about it.>I know tons of kids who didn't leave for major cities who can't even afford gas in town because wages haven't kept up. Yep, seen that too. Grew up with that, as a matter of fact.$800 may as well be $10k when the median income in my town is $29k.Do you live on the res or something? I'm not doubting you and I've seen plenty of poor people in my travels around the inland NW but that's pretty grim.
>>64605748Stop playing Mr Rich Tough Guy. They called me iron ass back in the day. Gave a kid a black eye with this bad boy
>>64605817With your ass?
>>64605748>Do you live on the res or something? I'm not doubting you and I've seen plenty of poor people in my travels around the inland NW but that's pretty grim.No, just a town where the primary industry is logging and agriculture, anything technical comes from the bigger NW cities and they fly or drive in. There really ain't much here besides logging and skiing, and most people who can just drive to the neighboring city (about 40 mins away) where pay is a lot better
>>64604268hunting seems cool but is so boring desu
>>64605854If I never had to drag out, gut, and clean a deer ever again in my life I'd be fine with that. But shooting one is fun, and venison is good.
>>64605828Did he stutter?
>>64604330That used to be the move.
>>64604393Yes there's the American rifles.Gonna get a Volquartsen summit for my next repeating 22 though.
>>64604268>Parents don’t hunt>nowhere to hunt>not time to hunt>gear can be expensive >public land decreasing, less private land options available >>64605193A shitty used nissan pickup or ford ranger is bonkers. Unless there is a way to fit a dead deer into some cheapo korean or jap compact hatchback or sedan, many people won’t be able to easily hunt.>>64605282hunting is beyond firearmsI bet fishing and archery hunting have also taken hard hits.
>>64605124i quit hunting because they restricted modern rifle deer season to only a week and it became chaos with everybody being buckfever jackasses and landowners who started closing all their shit off because of the hijinks and also because they now had desirable "exclusive" access that they could open up for favors.all my old hunting buddies went to muzzle loading and bow and whatever else gave them time so that they could actually make deer hunting work with their schedule. i tapped out then with the hunting part. i will go and hang out and spot/shuttle and bring sandwiches if i am available though.this despite it all being wheat fields where white tail are pests who grow like weeds and need to be culled with extreme prejudice so there was no reason for the DNR to restrict the season that much to begin with. it was done to drive people away.it got dumb and expensive and political and i didn't have the connections to fix that, basically. still have my deer rifle though. it's basically brand new despite being 25 years old. it has maybe half a box of 270 Win through it that i used to check my sights the weekend before "you might maybe have one shot at a buck because they know what is up and are all bedded down" week. dunno why i keep it. maybe because if i sell it i officially give up. or i'm just lazy.face it. hunting (at least for large game) is now a rich people sport. it isn't regulated in a way for working class people to regularly do it anymore. this isn't a generational problem. it is an urban/rural divide in land and wildlife management problem. urban tree-huggers, who will exist long after boomers are buried, don't want evil white rural men killing their favorite disney characters. so they make laws and regulations to end it and will uphold them long after the people who made them are gone.
>>64604268>Why don't younger generations like guns anymore?I don't know what you're talking about bro. That's not my experience at all. I took my wife's younger cousins shooting for the first time, like, 6 months ago and apparently they wouldn't stop going on about it afterwards. Took them shooting again when we were in Cali for Thanksgiving. They both seemed to think it was awesome. One of my mate's has got his niece and nephew into hunting. I haven't been able to take my (half-)siblings hunting yet (the oldest is 12 and they live in a no-guns country) but all three of them seem to think it's the coolest shit that I can own guns and go shooting whenever. The oldest has made me promise to take her somewhere she can shoot a machine gun when she's able to visit.
>>64606082>i quit hunting because they restricted modern rifle deer season to only a weekSeriously? What state?That sucks.
>>64606178whitman county, washington state. they have had the "3 point minimum" rules on it for so long that some the bucks stopped growing antlers anymore.rather than change things and reconsider their rules to maybe open it up a bit and, y'know, actually manage the wildlife to maintain a healthy wild population they just renamed the "doe tag" to "antlerless deer tag" for their way-to-restricted raffle and called it a day.
(aside from the culture / upbringing-family / economic issues) Main reason is that most Americans are urban dwellers. 'golden age of American outdoor hunting' was 1920s-1980s, the pre-1960s part of which had most of the American populace either living in, adjacent to, or came from the farm/ranches.Now rural areas and farms are being turned into subdivisions townhomes and mcmansions, at an ever-increasing pace
>>64606219>WAIs this another example of left-wing cities fucking it up for the rural areas?You ain't interested in going down the muzzle-loader route?
Why are other people's kids such a concern for OP? Tend to your own son.
>>64606231>Is this another example of left-wing cities fucking it up for the rural areas?yes. Eastern Washington is THE poster-child example of that. even moreso than illinois because at least the weather/climate is sort of the same in chicago. we hate olympia with every fiber of our being because we are totally different. and it isn't really because of trannies or junkies or whatever is the national cause celebre. it is them fucking with our hunting season and farming and the price of diesel. real important shit that actually matters to daily lives. land use policy when one side doesn't understand the land and tries to run everything like an urban or suburban or protected rainforest. that is a problem when a huge chunk of of what they run is steppe farmlands and irrigated desert.>You ain't interested in going down the muzzle-loader route?you ever been to the palouse? talking a 300yd iron-sight shot into a scab patch after belly-crawling through slush and mud in a harvested pea field so you weren't skylined on top of the next hill ain't my idea of a good time.we ain't got trees. we ain't got tree lines. we have hills. you hike in ukrainian-style goopy black mud and wheat stubble. from valley to valley. hill to hill. with 25x binoculars and spotting scopes trying to tell if that 3rd spike on the antler is 1-inch long at hundreds of yards. if you get any closer or make any noise they bolt up and over the next hill before you can bring your rifle up to get a shot. if you do anything wrong you go to jail.this isn't tree-stand with a salt-lick kind of shit is what i'm saying. muzzle-loader and archery is innawoods stuff. the land i hunted wasn't that. my buddies, in an effort to get more time to hunt, tried in desperation to use muzzleloaders on it. they failed, btw, and ended up using all their gear and tags to go hunt up in the blue mountains 50-100 miles away where there are trees and stuff and you can actually hunt with a muzzleloader properly.
>>64606282>taking a 300yd iron-sight shot into a scab patch after belly-crawling through slush and mud in a harvested pea field ... you hike in ukrainian-style goopy black mud and wheat stubble. from valley to valley. hill to hill. with 25x binoculars and spotting scopes trying to tell if that 3rd spike on the antler is 1-inch long at hundreds of yards. if you get any closer or make any noise they bolt up and over the next hill before you can bring your rifle up to get a shot. if you do anything wrong you go to jail.Haven't you heard, adversity builds character?Fair enough though, I'd probably drop hunting if that were my only option too.
>>64606312yeah my deer experience was different than most. which was the problem with the regulations. the regulators didn't know what to do with it. whitman county is the nation's leading wheat producer. it is never ever ever going to run out of deer. ever. they can only fuck it up. which they did by encouraging that weird no-antler gene with the 3-pt rule. some kid i know took down the biggest spike i ever saw there. it even had gray hair on it's back. that, to me, gives credence to the whole no antler rumor. that wasn't a young buck. it was a greyback that fucked all the does passing on his no-point genes while all his competition got shot dead. it was only that he ran into the wrong armed 16 year old on the wrong day that his streak ended (minors could take them legally, but only white-tails. mule deer had more protections so they got even more fucked up).anyways, my 270 win rifle was my second deer rifle. the first one i bought was a 25-06. it was great for deer there because it was flat shooting. you wanted the range to reach out and touch Bambi without too much adjustment for range. taking an 800 yd shot on a moving target wasn't an unheard of thing if it was a buck you had chased over a couple hills and knew that fucker had three points.it wasn't until i got to college and started talking to the other hicks there that i found out that this kind of hunting/chasing was pretty damn weird and most "proper" hunting is apparently is just some light hiking in the woods with a BAC above 0.08% and basically butt-stroking the thing. apparently the abos in australia do something similar to what we did with their walk-hunting. in that they rely on human endurance being much better than animals and they just keep coming at them like the terminator until the animal exhausts itself and can't go on then they stab it with a pointy stick. that was more-or-less what we did but with guns and honda foremans over wavy north-north Kansas.
>>64606410Taking mind altering substances and whacking white tail after a short walk is the bee's knees, hombre.
>>64604447>and I will not eat venisonlol faggot
>>64606419okay sure. i don't care anymore. i do my hunting at the Safeway meat department "manager special" bin.i will pitch in and help you pack out and butcher your deer in exchange for a share of the pepper sticks though. this, to me, gets the best return on my investment than actually going out and killing the thing. also, when we butcher the deer you need to provide, as payment, a plastic jug of way too much wild turkey bourbon so we all get blind drunk while we play with knives. i dunno why this needs to happen because we all hate it. tradition, i guess.
>>64604348>the people replacing the current population are all children of immigrantsI don't think this is true because it's one of the big things that turd-worlders keep chest-thumping about while bragging about how they're gonna take over the world, and that the people who do those population counts are the kind of people who side with said turdies. And also because I'm around about a dozen white people who are having kids, and it's getting to the point that I'm starting to feel left out and should probably fix my life.
>>64605234>3K for a car that hasn't even been manufactured in 20 years.that's what people are talking about man. that used to be a $500 car now everything is ludicrously overpriced because the dollar is valueless.
>>64605949Cars made before the 1980s didn't dent when you walked over them. People would lay on the roofs under the stars or have picnics on top of them. Now just leaning against one will dent it. Hence why a truck is needed.Trucks are very overpriced now and ceasing to be redneck toys. High schoolers used to buy them cheap used then struggle to keep them gassed and with expensive fresh tires. Now every cheap used one has been owned by a contractor or handyman for 5+ years. This has killed most youth truck related activities and culture.
>>64604834>killing gay animals is sportFtfy.
>>64605126>hunting =/= violent tendency No guns spotted.
>>64607033It isn't a dollar value issue nearly so much as it is a market manipulation issue and rampant "the right price is what the market is willing to bear" attitude from corporations that got kicked into overdrive by COVID pricing on things. It's the case with cars, homes, rentals, food, and most consumer focused industries. The prices will continue to increase until sales crash.
>>64604268They're getting banned in like 10 years anyways. Also:>Boomers, jews chinks, Indian powered corporations buying all the land to min max profits by mass producing apartments, AI data centers, and mega churches funded by Israel>No free land to shoot anymore. Texas in particular is guilty of this. You have to pay up or be born wealthy enough to have a family ranch (assuming it hasn't been bought out by Bill Gates)>Ammo is expensive>There's no established organizations to teach young people to shoot and practice firearm safetyI don't even think the Boy Scouts shoot those .22lr Cricket Rifles anymore. And of course, Republicans. But to be fair, most gun owners these days aren't interested in hunting. What are you supposed to hunt anyways in some suburban or urban shithole?
>>64605252Mmm. Bbq puma/mtn lion/couger. What other aliases do these shifty fuckers go by? I have seen one (one) in my lifetime.
>>64605285>maladaptive one for the good of the population>hunting down a cutting goth chick gazelleDamn dude, apex!
>>64605475>t. doesn't hunt
>>64605411>median income in my town is $29k.Sounds like prostitution is a viable recreation there. "First peoples"?
>>64607092no it absolutely is a dollar value issue, all those other things are just symptoms of that. Over 30% of all USD in circulation was created since 2020
>>64607092There is also a lot more people that add no value to society and just buy everything they think they can flip for more. Hustling has become mainstream. So there is someone buying up any good deal to sell it for more keeping prices high.This activity used to be rare.Also due to fake ads and scammers which didn't used to be a common thing 10-15 years ago places like craigslist got rid of free listing which removed 90% of the real listings. Everywhere has bots ai and others just fishing for details and not advertising or seeking legit transactions just gathering data.Society is a shadow of its former self.
>>64604268There is no shortage of retarded little redneck boys in my area that are obsessed with hunting in all its varieties. Bow hunting, dog hunting, dove hunting, duck hunting, squirrel hunting, rifle season, and of course shooting raccoons, possums, and armadillos any time of the year because they're pests and you don't need a license to shoot them. Not to mention fresh and salt water fishing, which is slightly more pervasive only because you can do it year round and without upsetting suburbanites. A lot of people still maintain the old indian practice of smearing the blood of your first kill upon your face. The changing seasons and the endless preparation of food plots, shooting houses, corn feeders, etc., are constant topics of conversation where I work. Of course there are downsides to living among subhuman dumbfuck hicks, but you gotta give it to them when it comes to their outdoor hobbies. They go all in, and they drag their kids and even sometimes their wives along with them.
>>64607124>Over 30% of all USD in circulation was created since 2020You're still on this.
>>64607127>Society is a shadow of its former self.USA society
>>64604268A lot of them know of it of course through social media and whatnot but have genuinely never been exposed to it. Majority of families don't have people that hunt in them anymore, simple as. For most of us, we got introduced to it by our fathers, grandfathers, uncles, etc. and were taught how/given the torch to carry on down. But with the way things are now a days, a lot of families don't have that and it's not exactly the easiest thing to get into. Sure you can buy the gear, find land, and hunt it but its something that's tough to "break into" if you've seriously never done it before.
>>64607140>>Society is a shadow of its former self.>USA societyYeah, every other society remains in the shadows they started in.
>>64604268People are fucking poor.Hunting is for the rich and the very rural now. And also in my opinion, it's not fun to freeze your ass off in a blind watching only the wrong type of deer (illegal to shoot despite deer populations being at an all time high) come by.Tacticool stuff is as popular as ever though.
>>64607131>armadillosI Would never eat armadillo, unless it was glyptodonts.
>>64607140I think most English speaking society. Canada is much worse for shooting, guns, prices, and traditional culture with gun bans and mass immigration since covid . The UK. Australia. Massive immigrant waves increasing competition and prices.The USA is actualy doing the best out of all of them and its still rough.As for hunting, rural areas with land is the most traditional demographic, and most housing built in the last 20 years is very dense pre planned suburbs with entire neighborhoods built at once that leaves none of the empty spaces in between once used for hunting or that fostered a liking for the outdoors in youth. They also don't have property they hike or manage, just a small front and back yard, often ruled by an hoa.This means most of the population now has to have a truck, travel some distance, have the gear and tags, for something they probably have little experience with or ability to practice near home.Its not just increased screen time, society isn't being developed with an appreciation of the outdoors in mind but rather to fit as many immigrants in a given space as possible.
Because it’s gay and forced. Why are you larping as your ancestors 100 years ago when hunting was legitimately needed as it was before the implementation of modern farming and logistics. You are larping as some tough settler while in realty you are a modern sedentary coward who cruelly hunts defenseless and harmless animals with your most advanced 2025 weapons.
>>64607140>>64607222yurop today has nothing in common, culturally, with preWWII yurop
>>64607092The government has been pretty bad about propping up the bubble as well. Think about what happens when the prices finally crash. Every retard that has over paid and is already $10k under water on their car is suddenly $25k under water on their car. Thats going to result in a lot of give backs, defaults, repos, and lenders eating shit like tricolor did with corporate bonds eating shit right behind them. We are in the territory of the manufacturers and dealers being such massive pieces of shit that a price correction would unironically blow up the market. These fuckers know this which is why they’re pushing the prices as high as they can before they have to stagnate them. Or they just crash out fire some faceless execs and get a government bail out by holding manufacturing jobs hostage.
Insane amount of whining in this thread. There's literally nothing stopping you from 1. getting a hunting license or 2. taking your kids hunting. Stop complaining about muh government and get out there for fucks sale
>>64607199They don't eat them, they shoot them because armadiller roots up vegetable gardens and is a pest and nuisance. There are folk who eat raccoon and possum, though, and squirrel when prepared correctly is pretty good eating.
>>64605222>It's not that hard to save up a couple thousand bucks and buy a decent used car.Quote from man who's 60 years old and hasn't had to live with an entry level wage since the 80s.
>>64604311NTA; I more have the problem that people seem to be seriously self-entitled retards who don't give a fuck about anyone else but themselves. Interrupt others hunting, be loud as fuck, and actively ruin someone's hunting spot that they've been at for the past few months when no one else was there. Not to mention destruction of others equipment. Zero sense of responsibility or what's right. If I go to a new spot mid-season and run into a hunter who has obviously taken a lot of time to research that spot and set up, I'm doing one of three things. One, I'll leave and wait for their season to be over before returning. Two, I figure out when they hunt there and only hunt/check up at times they're not hunting. Or I talk to them and figure out the situation if possible and make sure I don't ruin their hunting. What I've had to deal with has made me far more interested in trail cams and I think I might buy even more and stick them up in places people don't see. At least then I'll know who's doing what.>>64604330NTA either; I put all my game in my trunk. Granted I don't hunt deer and I want a bigger car by next year but that's more of a hunting/shooting range gear organization thing than anything (and tiny ass doors that don't let you put anything in the car without knowing the exact orientation it will go in and come out in). With enough towels and plastic, it's possible to keep your trunk clean and load game in it. Shit, I remember talking to someone who threw bucks in the trunk back when cars were massive boxy things back in the 70s.
>>64604268I’ve hunted enough to know that I loathe deer and other land-critter hunting and love bird hunting. One always resulted in me sitting all day, freezing my ass off, and going home with nothing. The other lets me move, walk, talk, and slaughter vast amounts of small, feathery niggers.Really, I’m only interested in deer/bear hunting just to see what some of my cartridges/bullet types do to living things and tissue. I wish I could just buy cattle destined for slaughter anyway and do another Thomson-LaGarde test at my range.
>>64605124>No generational knowledge, [...] failed to pass [it] downThis kind of shit pisses me off to no end. Why does no one sew? Why does no one repair their clothes/cars/etc? Why does no one know how to do basic shit anymore? Because no one taught the kids how to. If you get classes on any of this shit in school, it's so dumbed down and basic it's frustrating looking back on what you spent a year-long class on. I also argue that kinda started with the Boomers; there's so many of them that were never taught this shit that it blows my fucking mind.>"My mom had this great old Singer sewing machine with a treadle. Used to make everything from curtains to clothes and repaired everything. ...Wish I learned how to sew."That kind of thing. No one ever taught them, though it's possible they never showed interest. I've bought tools/supplies from plenty of Boomers that were their parents or great grandparents tools that they "wish they had learned more about x" while they still could as none of that knowledge was passed down. I'm very happy, however, with a lot of the Boomers who DID get that knowledge and talk at hunting/gun junk shows. They'll tell you little tips here and there that would've taken me years to come up with. Little cheap ways to do things for cents (or free) to hunt better.>>64605172>Even when young people ask for help, they're often met with disdain [...] to make things harder for them.There is an unironic stereotypical boomer on taxidermy.net who just complains and derails posts when anyone learning makes a thread with a question that anyone in their first 10 years of learning taxidermy would have, god forbid you haven't been doing it 40 years. There's a few based younger people and some based guys who do it as a job/to compete who give info away free though, even high-tier competition techniques, which gives me hope. IME, it seemed the basics were hidden as "secrets" behind (~$40+) DVDs/tapes until roughly this decade.
>>64607244This, West society.China and the rest of the world have blossomed.
>>64607478hunting literally peaked 50 some odd years ago. that's why marlin, H&R, stevens, fake winchester and remington aren't in business anymore and why a lot of iconic guns like the savage 99 aren't made anymore >muh mitt romneyyeah, he's a jewish piece of shit and he killed remington, but he was only able to buy remington, H&R and Marlin because they were in massive financial trouble due to the stagnating hunting market of the 90s and early 2000s which hasn't gotten better, it just got rid of most of the players with Mossberg, Ruger and Savage being the only ones left and Henry really mostly existing on the current boomer nostalgia push for lever guns more than anything
>>6460711295% white. Next town over is worse off, median individual income is $18k. The itty bitty tribal allotment outside of town is wealthier than the town itself since they're a small tribe and they get the casino money disbursed between 100 people.
>>64605411>29k medianWhat state?
>>64605248The granny cars have issues too if they're over 20 years old due to sheer age and minor neglect adding up. Got a 1994 car with 45K on it, and while it is pretty solid and had a several year span of no issues, the coolant system is half rotted due to the neglect it faced and tap water top offs. I've probably replaced every piece of it by now. Oh well, least it wasn't oil....My other one from 92 seeps at gaskets and lost every drop of coolant on a drive once (my fault, gotta replace all hoses day 1)
>>64605208Fuck off. My ancestors hunted to survive. Your ancestor is a dentist hunting African elephants.
>>64604311>>Retarded laws>>Retarded boomer culturethisanything the boomers put their claws on becomes regulation nightmare
So I wanted to contribute my 2 cents,I grew up in a rural area, dad was older and used to hunt, but was too lazy to ever take me or educate me on it. I started shooting guns a little bit as an adult (mid 20s), Decided late 20s, early 30s I'd like to get into hunting.Here is what happened:- Need to get a gun license (requires money, classes, fingerprinting, letters of recommendation, etc.) - classes are once every 4 months on tuesday 5am, plus tip- need to buy a gun, various types of ammo, ear protection, etc.- to hunt, need to take a hunter safety class, classes are only given at extremely odd days, ALWAYS during business hours (hunters don't have jobs?)- need to find a place to hunt- need to figure out the "tag" system, can only shoot 1 deer, a male, in the hind leg, with a black powder crossbow, on oct 11-12, but you must be wearing bright pink camo- need to then figure out how to gut it- need to have a truck to take it to a deer station or whateverI just gave up, it's too much work following all these faggot rules and regulations, we don't live in a free country, I should be able to go to walmart, buy a shotgun, walk into the woods and shoot a deer same day, no questions asked. If you think we need any rules or regulations or laws at all you simply are not white. As a white man I can simply be trusted to follow my own moral compass and ethics and I can do no wrong, and I will live in harmony with nature and my fellow man. But pussy faggots, even pro gun ones, have let themselves become a conquered people, you have no rights, all things are fucking gay now, and also impossible. LMAO at asking permission for every little fucking thing, EVERYTHING is illegal and if you accept this as a fact of life I'm sorry you're a low t submissive butt slut. Stay inside and scroll on your phone and let your world shrink.
>>64605222>couple thousand bucks>decent used carShit anon, you'd be lucky to get something that was roadworthy and fucking RAN for 2k, much less something reliable or comfortable to drive.
>>64608387ID
>>64604611>when you introduce them try to get them plenty of action. Dove, duck, goose, coon, squirrel, and rabbit are easier for kids than sitting in a deer stand freezing their asses off.I think that's the issue. A lot of us millenial's first and only real interaction with hunting was our boomer dads taking us out on a cold as fuck day to shiver and never see a deer. The memory is one of waking up super early to go out in the woods in the dark, experience boredom, oppressive weather, and lots of blue balls. Then you get to repeat it several times and maybe be lucky enough to get one deer. Sure that was exciting and all but then the march of life goes on, you lose touch with it, and you were never given the itch to hunt anyway from it.For me it was always fishing that was my itch. I loved that shit so much I'd get sunburned being out fishing all day with my family or friends.
>>64604268>Why don't younger generations like guns anymore?not true>my neice saw me and she acted like I was wiring a bomb or something.Sample size of 1. Maybe ask your niece, you sperg
>>64605124Hunting in Texas is pure suffering if you don't own land. The public land we do have gets hammered pretty hard during the season so you get all of the fun of dealing with retarded entitled boomer retards AND dealing with finding a decent buck in an area that's already being actively hunted. Oh and make sure to wear your orange so you don't get shot by said boomer retards.The only way to hunt here really is have land or have friends with land. Maybe if you live close enough to more remote national grasslands or forests you can swing it.
>>64608780>letters of recommendation>mandated classes during work hoursahhh... that lovely thing in modern society where if you want to do ANYTHING productive you get treated like a criminal by default, and have to prove your good goyness in 37 different ways before you're even let through the door.you just know that license would get revoked at the slightest inkling of some shitass game warden
>>64609100Yeah there’s too many dads that just bring the kid to do what they’re doing instead of dedicating time to them having fun. My dad didn’t know shit about hunting but went out of his way to take us. I remember our first big hunting trip as a Boy Scout troop for pheasant we were the only ones in the entire troop with a pointer (we had a GSP a couple dads had labs) and it made us the coolest kids there that day. Awesome core memory. Then the early year of duck hunting collecting widgeons and pintails like pokemon cards was so fun.
>>64608473Low IQ cope
>>64605124>>Certain states such as Texas have absolutely no public hunting access, either gatekept by boomers, require paying a guide or land owner a lot of money, or knowing landowners (which many younger people don't)Ah that explains some things. I'm in Idaho and big money Texas faggots keep buying up land and gating off the trails that lead to public lands where people have been hunting for decades. Always wondered what made them think that was an acceptable thing to be doing.
>>64604388Man fuck remington for not making the 700s cheaper. If there were a cheaper one I'd buy it but there's no argument for it against a cheap AR, which you can convert straight-pull bolt-action easily anyway by taking a shit in the gas key.>>64605127That pic is what righteous action looks like, those invasive annoying bastards can git sum, I gotta know what they taste like.>>64607148TRVTH, not to mention a lot of the boomers were never taught themselves. Even my grandfather in his later life went from suburban to somewhat rural but only engaged in agriculture, no hunting light hiking and little bushcraft. In canada it's screwy too, less people wanna go to farming schools even though it's where the money's at and the government's disarmaments have made dealing with the current vermin in a lotta areas a downright dangerous pain in the ass. Traditions of tinning and such are disappearing cause walmart sells the same shit pre-tinned for cheaper than the value of your time.I know in the sun belt it's particularly shit when there's not much to bag outside of vermin and the average notable hunting story you hear is about killin and grillin fuckin squirrels, the people I know who do or did hunt haven't done that shit in the past couple years.
>>64609470>Man fuck remington for not making the 700s cheaper.savage, ruger or mossberg?
>>64604330You don't need a truck. As a teenager I fit deer in a 1995 Geo Tracker no problem and even had to use my mom's Subaru one time. You just use a good layer of cardboard and a tarp.
>>64609412Which is extra scummy since IDFG has a program to allow farmers and rangeland owners to be paid by the state to have land used during hunting season for public access. They will deal with things such as invasive weed management and stuff as part of the deal too. Texans are honestly a different flavor of Californian and I hate them both. At least Californians wear their hatred for you on their sleeve, Texans are parasites who will sell you out to the highest bidder. No wonder Texas is rapidly filling with jeets.
In Finland it's moose hunting that's legitimately dying out because it's an old farts' sekrit club that's all about showing off muh hunting dog and look at how much land I ownLike how much moose meat do you plan on shoving up your dying ass
>>64605214Lmao you sound like someone who hasn't been out in the past 10 years and exclusively hunts on private land (that your neo boomer ass will also post about how its actually affordable based on metrics you made up in your head). All public hunting land is filled with boomers from the start of archery until december. Inb4 you have another weird pseudo boomer cope about how everything is actually easy if you just x the y using stats straight from your ass
>>64607478Stfu and die. You fake ass wannabe boomers always post this crusty ass bullshit and act like nothing has changed for the past 70 years and you just need to endlessly pointlessly toil and suffer endlessly. So glad this shit is dying you can't make a hit past 300m anyway, we've all seen the videos of you old ass boomers missing at 300 with magnum rifles. Go ahead and post cope you won't be able to prove shit
>>64609540I suppose they do say everything's bigger in Texas, which would include the retardation and faggotry.
>>64609412>>64609540>mad because Texans believe in property rights
>>64609777Enjoy your 50 foot demon statues because your people sell every acre of available land to undesirables.
>>64609782>oh no the free exchange of goods and services!
>>64609790Selling swaths of land to foreign invaders doesn't make you based or cool man, it just makes you a traitor.
>>64609799>nooo you cant do the hekkin capitalisms!
>>64605193It's not 2005 or 2015 anymore anon. I had to replace my old Nissan Frontier 2007 this year, even with regular undercoating the road salt got it in the end. I had the same rough thing in mind as you, nbd, I'll get a 2014 or something and it'll still be fine.Holy fucking hell is the market insane. Like $10k+ for more like a 2010 or something that is barely better than what I was replacing. And as I'm in a very different financial position then a few decades ago I took a look at new stuff, and hell if that isn't even fucking WORSE! Not merely because the prices are stratospheric, though it's that too, but I look around and there isn't even anything I want to buy. Everything is full of spy shit and ever more digital doodads that do nothing useful and are clearly being positioned to sell you subscriptions. Companies trying to make you subscribe to have heated seats! It all sucks so bad, internal engineering is dead better by that fancy extended warranty for $$$$/year because now if you want to replace an $11 fuse it'll cost you $1k to replace the entire fucking electronic-something-unit they welded together because fuck you (plus $4k labor :^)). The market is insane and I hate it. Can't imagine what it must be like for those just growing up. The kind of 1st vehicle I had, an old beater I worked to fix myself, doesn't exist around here at all anymore, anymore than starter homes like I got do.
>>64609777The road they gated doesn't belong to them. It belongs to the Forest Service and is a road to public land. It's maintained with state tax money. Said faggot Texans are now using some service to try to charge you to use a road that you already pay taxes to maintain and your taxes paid to have made.
>>64609830You should probably tell them. We dont have shit like that down here, so its a pretty natural assumption on their part.
>>64604268A large part of the problem is the utter disdain the boomer and gen x generations had for passing on traditions. They never took their kids hunting and so the practice has died out quite a bit. And even those that passed it on often made it not fun for their kids by being dismissive or berating mistakes or similar, thereby making the children not want to keep hunting once dad stopped forcing them to.
