QRD on their respective strengths:BUDGETS AND GROUND PERSONNEL>Cambodia had a defence budget of $1.3 billion in 2024 and 124,300 active military personnel. Of this, Cambodia's army is the country's largest force, with some 75,000 soldiers, backed by more than 200 battle tanks and around 480 pieces of artillery.>Thailand has a large, well-funded military, with a defence budget of $5.73 billion in 2024 and over 360,000 active armed forces personnel. The Thai army has a total of 245,000 personnel, including an estimated 115,000 conscripts, around 400 battle tanks, over 1,200 armoured personnel carriers and some 2,600 artillery weapons.The army has its own fleet of aircraft, comprising passenger planes, helicopters such as dozens of U.S.-made Black Hawks, and unmanned aerial vehicles.AIR FORCES>Cambodia's air force has 1,500 personnel, with a relatively small fleet of aircraft, including 10 transport planes and 10 transport helicopters. It doesn't possess any fighter aircraft but has 16 multi-role helicopters, including six Soviet-era Mi-17s and 10 Chinese Z-9s. Thailand has one of the best equipped and trained air forces in Southeast Asia, with an estimated 46,000 personnel, 112 combat capable aircraft, including 28 F-16s and 11 Swedish Gripen fighter jets.NAVIES>The Cambodian navy has an estimated 2,800 personnel, including 1,500 naval infantry, with 13 patrol and coastal combat vessels and one amphibious landing craft.Thailand's navy is much larger, with nearly 70,000 personnel, comprising naval aviation, marines, coastal defence and conscripts. It has one aircraft carrier, seven frigates, and 68 patrol and coastal combat vessels. The Thai fleet also contains a handful of amphibious and landing ships capable of holding hundreds of troops each and 14 smaller landing craft. This is in addition to a marine corps that has 23,000 personnel.https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/how-do-cambodia-thailands-militaries-compare-2025-12-08/
>>64610227Is Thailand going to stop being gay and break out the HK33s?
>>64610232They just got the Tavors not that long ago.
>>64610227Cambodia's only chance is infiltration + bum rush the Thai's before they can mobilize. they're fucked now
>>64610250It's already over then since the Thai military never de-mobilized. They were literally finger on the trigger waiting for scambos to start shit.
Thai forces routing khmers during the last engagement
>>64610261the thai seem remarkably well-trained, almost night and day compared to vatniks...
status of cambodian/myanmar/ chinese cartels kidnapping china man in the region?
>>64610278Not great, even China is losing patience with them and Cambodia's de facto leader sucking up to Trump didn't help. Beijing now has even less reason to give a shit what happens to his regime. And America is still sanctioning Cambodian firms anyway so it was all for nothing. All it did was show everyone what an opportunistic little shit Hun Sen is.
>>64610232Unfortunately no. We're going back to ARslop platform and it's our own this time.
performance of thai airforce was pretty underwhelming the last time, cambodia was firing artillery and moving units all day long without much interferenceI guess it will be another nothingburger with no change of status quo
>>64610300Well, you could also argue that the last engagement was probably intentionally limited, to give Cambodia the chance to back the fuck off (which they did)
>>64610227>inb4 it turns out that Thailand has been spending all their money on conscripts and aircraft carriers like Russia and ends up in a stalemate just the same way
>>64610300>performance of thai airforce was pretty underwhelming the last timeBased on what metric? Every available source says the exact opposite, they were even taking out command positions. It got to where Cambodia was the one throwing in the towel early and trying to sue for a ceasefire just a week in despite being the instigator.https://www.forbes.com/sites/sebastienroblin/2025/07/31/how-artillery-and-air-power-shaped--thailand-cambodia-border-conflict/
>>64610308Thai military spending is just 1-1.5% of GDP.
>>64610308Cambodia spends more relative to gdp but gets mogged by several orders of magnitude.
>>64610261the thing about the ladyboys is that they love you long time but when they kill, it's quick
B-But this war was stopped? How could this happen?!
>>64610336Makes sense considering the neighborhood. >civil war in Burma to their west >failed post-Khmer Rouge state to their east>Malay Muslim insurgents in the South>still heavily reliant on tourism and guaranteeing safetyIn that environment, it's go hard or go home.
>>64610232>Is Thailand going to stop being gayNo.
>>64610376>In that environment, it's go hard or go homealso the daily life of a ladyboy in pucket
>>64610376>that hand>that chin>"she"I'm getting new ideas for my next trip to pattaya
>>64610395Ladyboys aren't allowed in the army.
>>64610261Damn didnt realize the Thai SOF kit was so sexy
>Thailand only has a noteworthy war start after they've already largely retired their ERDL knockoffsMakes me kinda sad bros>>64610238>killing Communists with Jew-made gunsAs God intended.>inb4 Cambodia isn't Communist anymoreShut up
>>64610429They seem to be generations apart, even Cambodia's elite guard looks Uganda-tier.
>>64610534>before someone accuses me of unfairly showing them ungeared
>>64610227Is this still over the temple or something else?
>>64610562The temple was always ancillary, this is more about cambos getting desperate. They expected more from the last engagement thinking Thais were getting complacent/soft, not realizing the Thai army had its finger on the trigger the whole time just waiting for shit to fly. Not only did Cambodia effectively lose ground in the ceasefire deal, the support they hoped to scam out of the international community by framing themselves as the next Ukraine didn't really materialize. So obviously they're taking another crack at it, taking potshots and hoping Trump will see Thai vipers pounding the border in retaliation and blame Thailand for breaking the truce.
>>64610596it's also a domestic policy thingcambodia is dirt poor and the ruling family is very corrupt. If you don't want people getting angry over how shit their lot in life is and how their rules live in such corrupt opulence. you have to give them something else to be angry about.
>>64610343My schizo take is that Trump paid both sides to restart the war so he can swoop in and negotiate another peace deal. Proving once again that he’s the greatest peace maker of all time.
>>64610376>superior East Asian Thai>Austronesian monkey Khmer
>>64610596Thais think they have won but mark my words, there will be karmic retribution for picking on the defenseless and mentally retarded
>>64610631Well yeah that part is obvious.
Cambodia can keep taking potshots, unlike a certain group of people in control of the US government, Thailand has to wait up for approval for US stocks on munitions.There are no instant gibs for dropping bombs regardless who broke the truce.
>>64610227good news everyone, mr Trump will get to end 9th war!
>>64610748Thailand isn't only getting its arsenal from 1-2 country, unlike Cambodia.
>>64610652>the Thai will be reborn as jeetsa grave punishment indeed
Cambodian drone downed by Thai forces using M16A4
>>64610652This is some kino goodguy propaganda 10 ladyboys out of 10
>>64610227It's not even a competition, Thailand would pummel Cambodia. BUT nothing will happen because Thailand has more to lose in terms of tourist revenue and economic growth. The Cambodians could probably strap some chink drones to strike a tourist resort and ruin the Thai economy. Their country would promptly disappear from the face of the earth but still the exchange is probably not worth it for the Thais.
>>64610925>tourist revenue and economic growthAll that takes a backseat when territorial integrity is involved, and the neighborhood knows it. Even Myanmar was smart not to provoke the Thai military and immediately apologized just for accidentally straying over the border while bombing its own people. And Myanmar actually has combat jets, which Cambodia doesn't.
>>64610925Cambodia bombing Bangcock won't stop the tourists from coming in, its a surefire way that the uppity Thai military will march and burn Cambodia to the ground.
>>64610938Yes, my point is I doubt it would devolve into a full blown war. At most we are gonna see Cambodia getting its shit pushed in on a border skirmish which will probably be enough deterrent.
Damn, Trump's FIFA peace prize was all for nothing
>>64610938Honestly as a Thai we fumbled Myanmar so bad. We had so much leverage over the Junta at the beginning of the situation and could've hoovered up all their top talent to fix our TFR but the government pretended like nothing was happening.
>>64610952Thailand's aging society needs young Burmese infusion.
>>64610973This unironically, I can hardly tell border Burmese from myself. It's not like we'd importing a gorillion jeets or sand browns, we're so ethnically close and they're not trying to take over like in Europe. 10% of Thais are Sino-Thai anyway, what's a couple percent more. I'll take that over the bottomless middle income trap we're facing. I don't wanna rely on fucking Chink robots to keep our economy going.
>>64610952Do you think that Thailand should just bite the bullet and go all in on a military solution to whatever Cambodia is bitching about, or is there no appetite for something like that?
>>64610989The entire country trusts the military to take care of shit more than the government by a factor of 5x at this point.Boots on the ground marching to Phnom Penh would probably be impossible unless we get support from glowniggers, but some good border pounding and strategic inland strikes on the casinos is certainly what the cambotards need.
>>64610398Shame. I bet plenty of ladybois fantasized about being passed around the barrack serving as the squad's "morale boosters"
>>64610227The Thai government has to distract the people from its catastrophic handling of floods in South Thailand.
>>64612058No one gives a shit about the government. >>64611029
>>64610227Didnt they just have a war?
>>64612427this is war 2
>>64610859of all the monkey ass shit...
>>64612484If they keep this up then Donnie can claim like 10 more peace deals before end of 2025
>>64610278The Thais should bomb those Cambodian scam centers and casinos to hurt them even more. Those places are probably Cambodia's biggest source of income atm.
>>64612982Already getting done
>>64610297Why a 20" with FSB?Are they still using iron sights with tavors? Why not spend that money on optics?
>>64613766They're in the process.
>>64613745>casino military headquartersI assume this is missing a comma, and Cambodian casinos don't actually have their own military HQs.
>>64612058South Thailand is full of muzzies so who cares
>>64610227>Thailand has one of the best equipped and trained air forces in Southeast AsiaMalaysia has the best air force in Southeast Asia.
>>64610227>It has one aircraft carrierThat is funny way of saying royal yacht.
>>64613940That would be Singapore :)
>>64611915that is so fucking hot
>>64613906Apparently it's an abandoned casino.
>>64613940>they will help Cambodia shoot down F-16kek like the last time?
>>64613950This carrier isn't even Thailand's largest navy ship. What does Cambodia have by the way?
>>64613940Why the fuck the would Malaysia get into a shooting war with Thailand over Cambodia?
>>64614316
>>64610376She's kinda cute
>>64613940>scambodian post>wishful thinking>sukhois and vanilla hornetskek>>64614316The argument is they want to support Muslim insurgents in Thailand's South but the reality is they don't want those insurgents on their border anymore than Thais do. Scambodians are grabbing at straws at this point, their entire strategy is spraying and praying for someone else to bail them out.
>>64610227Good luck Thailand! Scumbodians need to bend the knee.
>>64614341She's a moral-booster.
>>64610227Does this mean cheap cambodian mail-order poon might be back on the menu again?
They should get the Viets on board for the lulz. I once asked some Viets what they think of them and the racism was off the charts hilarious.
>>64614351Deus Vult
>>64614359Cambodians gave Vietnam their own Vietnam and caused them a decade of economic malaise so Viets are still butthurt
>>64614388That's a weird way of saying Vietnam utterly gutted the Khmer Rouge and only eventually withdrew under US pressure. I hope Gerald Ford is rotting in hell for supporting those genocidal psychos.
>>64614359Asian racism is a beautiful thing.
>>64610261Why are they wearing tape? Are the Cambodians using that uniform too?
>>64614417>Are the Cambodians using that uniform too?Not really.
>>64614484So why the tape then? Are they just plain stupid?
Hope we get some Grippen Kino.
>>64614495Colored tape isn't just for national identification you tourist, it can be for unit-level identification, roles, quick chucks within mixed forces, etc.
>>64614388What a strange cope 50 years after well-documented facts.
>>64610291KGGB supremacy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQzv-8pJSqY
>>64614520It's one of those copes among the vanquished "Yeah, you shattered my spine, broke all my limbs, and knocked out my teeth, but I gave you a bloody nose!The Viets took over Phnom Penh and all other major settlements in a few weeks. The next decade was the occasional Viet conscript getting shot by KR insurgents in the jungle, while never really getting back any control.The truth is it was a Sino-Soviet proxy war. It's true their economy suffered in the end, but that was all due to the PRC funding and arming them the KR while the Soviets were backing Vietnam. When the SU started collapsing, the PRC was still willing to fund the Khmer Rouge holdouts. They dangled the carrot of normalization for Viet Nam and they took it because they knew they couldn't absorb the cost like China could and they needed to get their economy going again.They still smashed Khmer Rouge in weeks and without the whole thing becoming a proxy war they would likely have finished the job.
>>64614651Cambo propaganda is so incompetent it has to be intentional.
>>64614820You're leaving out how the US very much supported the khmer rouge after they got toppled by Vietnam.
>>64614359Hun Sen was put into power by the Viets. Cambodia is pretty much a Vietnamese vassal state.
>>64613929Have you ever noticed the amount of mosques and Thai Muslim businesses around Thailand? They're a minority, but they punch above their weight in term of economic power (still far behind the Thai Chinese). Also, not only Muslims were hit by the floods.
>>64614651>>64615004You just know they picked a stuka because they didn't want to show Thais flying 4th gen fighters when the Cambodian air force has zero combat jets.
>no military>attack larger and more modern neighborWhat's the point?This is like Ireland attacking the UK, Iceland invading mainland Europe or New Zealand attacking Australia. In this region something like the Philippines attacking China.
>>64610376>go away>no, why don't you go away>okay sorry we're leaving now :(War is Hell
>>64615134Because, their national avg.IQ is in the 80s (the Austronesian ethnics of SEA might as well be jeets, mudslimes, or niggers), half of their economy is scam-gambling, and they have nothing else but a delusion of restoring their "ancient glory" - the Khmer Empire, which folded like wet tissue the moment it came into contact with East Asian ethnics and their superior social/military organization and tech.
>>64615004Didn’t they purge all their intellectuals a few decades back?
>>64615248 Yet Malaysia is more developed than Thailand
>>64615293And how much is that is because 1/4th of its population and 3/5th of its elites Chinese?
>>64615293What does this have to do with it
>>64614274>buy the worlds smallest "aircraft carrier">can't afford to buy refurb harriers from spain>can't afford to buy spare parts from anybody to fix the few harriers you managed to acquire>can't afford to even to go to sea more than a few weeks per yearalmost as embarrassing as the kuznetsov
>>64615287Yes, along with thousands more who I'm sure were just mid.
>>64615409Cool story bro. Now let's see Cambodia's carrier.
>>64615293Except it's clearly not.
>>64615418Not to mention, those "intellectuals" and "mids" were "intellectuals" and "mids" by their standards, which probably were just "mids" and "lower-mids"
>>64615409What a typical khmernigger post. Spain barely maintains matadors (not harriers you gay retard) for itself anymore and the ones it has are set to retire in a few years. What would be the point of buying jets that won't even be supported by the main supplier? Why does the hun family keep sending you dumb bhq chimps who never know what they're talking about?
>>64615424lol, cambodia not investing in a blue water navy isn't as embarrassing as thailand throwing a billion into a huge hole in the waterI guess the spanish got paid so good for them
>>64615453>Spain barely maintains matadors (not harriers you gay retard)you realize the matador is the 2 seater trainer version of the harrier?>and the ones it has are set to retire in a few yearsand somehow thailand failed to purchase what are now going to be scrap>What would be the point of buying jets that won't even be supported by the main suppliermaybe take that question up with the people who ordered the carrier to start with?are we just ignoring the fact that thailand ordered a fucking carrier be built with the express intention of putting monkey-model refurb export harriers on it, and then failed to actually purchase said aircraft?
>>64610277Ladyboy jokes aside, they're a real country.
What are they even fighting about, who has the best ladyboys?
>>64615456>>64615481>khmer ape admits to not investing in a navy or marine corps>copes and says it's fine >meanwhile gets btfo by Thai navy after attempting to occupy Trat>continues seething at a carrierlollmao
>>64610227I know nothing about these countries. May the best slant win.
>>64615491>Thais start raiding Cambodian scam centers because the operators were kidnapping both Thais and foreign tourists to force them to work the phones>raids are a direct threat to Cambodian revenue streams since Cambodia relies heavily on the scam centers>Thai PM attempts to smooth things over in a phone call with Cambodia's leader (who was once friends with her dad) >Cambodian leader backstabs her anyway by leaking the call to portray her as weak and a traitor to her people>thinking the ensuing chaos would make Thailand too fractured to offer much resistance, Cambodia decides to roll the dice and start lobbing rockets at Thailand>said rockets hit civilians including a 7-11, killing over a dozen people>Thailand (which had been trying to de-escalate because war is bad for tourism), decides enough is enough and drops the hammer, including launching F-16s and Gripens to bomb the shit out of Cambodian bases and artillery positions>Cambodia runs to the UN and begs everyone to tell Thailand to stop>before ceasefire comes into effect, Cambodia's elite BHQ force tries to zerg rush Thai positions but gets cut down due to vastly superior Thai firepower>all attempts by Cambodia to landgrab end in utter failure along with mountains of khmer corpses>Thai troops now occupy many disputed territories>Cambodia tried to claim it only lost a few soldiers but then the Thai military showed hundreds of khmer carcasses littering the battlefield uncollected along with prisoners who willingly surrendered during the conflict>Cambodian civilians also showed dozens of funerals all over TikTok so Cambodia had to finally revise its figures and admit it lost far more than Thailand>Thailand just bought more Gripens for Sweden>US and UK just imposed sanctions on Cambodian firms>South Korea just imposed a travel ban on Cambodia>Cambos realize time is running out so roll the dice yet again for a shot at a better ceasefire deal>Thais decide "fuck it" and now gloves are off
>>64615518This whole thing is over call centre scams?Based. The west needs to do this to India.
>>64615529It's kind of a catch 22, too much of India's economy relies on scamming and siphoning money off the West. Legitimately, it's like a huge chunk of their GDP. If that was finally halted, the country would collapse and Indians would flood the rest of the world. If you thought the ones flooding in were bad now, wait until the truly desperate ones with no skills other than scamming get here.
>>64615547Well they could just not allow them to leave, but I guess the current western leadership loves browns far too much to do that.
>>64615529Scam centers are like 40% of Cambodia's actual GDP, most of which is actively supported by the government. They really are just jeets with somehow even more criminality in their DNA.
>>64615518Nice rundown thank you.
>>64615518Holy shit dude what a crazy war
>>64615409Would it have been better for thailand to do the Iran thing and just convert an oil tanker into a helicopter/drone carrier?
>>64615797They can just put drones on their existing carrier. Like the Turks did.
>>64615518I've been following this since the leaked call thing but I didn't know about the scam centers. Fucking hillarious.
>>64615134>What's the point?Cambodia has that dawg in em, unfortunately said dawg is severely retarded
>>64610227I dunno why Reuters is lowballing Thailand's F-16 fleet, they have way more operational F-16s (not just for parts) than 28.
>>64615918Don't know if it's true but I've read that the Thai military might be targeting several casinos and scam op buildings along the border. Kind of kino if real.https://youtu.be/NT4iPWzsf94
>>64616023Using A/B as a metric is also retarded when half the fleet has eMLU making them closer to block 50s too.
>>64616030The scam centers were already getting raided but the casinos are only getting targeted because a lot of them have already been converted to military/paramilitary bases and outposts.
>>64616036Yep, and the ones that haven't are being replaced with Gripen C/Ds, with E/Fs on the way.
>>64610277To be fair it's hard to look incompetent when you are fighting actual cavemen with soviet hand-me-downs.
>>64615018Even back then a lot of Americans in the know thought that was downright bonkers.
Ayutthaya has the governing capacity palace while kambodsa has the shitty angor what the winner is clear.
>>64615518>>said rockets hit civilians including a 7-11, killing over a dozen peopleHow dare they attack the Japanese embassy
I hope we get to see the Cambodian T-55s fight the Thai M-60s
>>64616573Thailand's being dicks and mainly deploying VT-4s and Oplots. They really don't want to make this fair at all.
>>64616615:( but I want kino tank on tank action.
LETS GOOOOOOO. 2025 CAN BE GREAT, WE HAVE A FEW WEEKS LEFT
>>64612982Hard option. Those places are full of abducted and enslaved foreign nationals. So if you haul off and just blow them up you cant really know the reprocussions pretty sure south korea was recently trying to repatriate some of its citizens after some particularly bad torture video came out.
>>64614651I am not saying that Thailand is 100% truthnvke but, if you are going to trust Cambodian officials on anything……
>>64615503One side are femboy prostitutes from that Hangover movie, and the other are their cousins.
>>64616994Personally I think we need to back up the side that's keeping the femboy whores safe.
>>64615518>Thai PM attempts to smooth things over in a phone call with Cambodia's leader (who was once friends with her dad) >Cambodian leader backstabs her anyway by leaking the call to portray her as weak and a traitor to her peopleI still have no idea why they did that. I'm aware that the point is, as you said, it's to fracture the Thais into a political quagmire, but it feels like an insanely stupid, short-sighted act when the previous PM was willing to appease the Cambodians with some concessions from the Thai side.
>>64616894Thai and ROK special forces kino would be a nice solution. It could be their "Iranian Embassy" moment.
>>64617087Face culture
Is there a high score?Any K/D reports on both sides?
>>64610261I've only trained with the royal thai marines so i don't know what the rest are like but those dudes are motivated..Decently skilled, not as good as US or west european soldiers but definitely better than their neighbors.
>>64617447Nah, if this was East Asian face culture, the khmernigger in charge would have stopped after the first border rocket volley while trying to spin it into a propaganda victory. This is jeet's izzat or nigger's chimping out of pride
>>64616925>Cambodia being hit with the ladyboy gasoh no
They should settle this in the kickboxing ring, Khun Khmer vs Muay Thai. Each nation chooses it's best champion in each weight class, No gloves, to the death. PPV sales would be insane.
>>64617196That would be a nice way of the worst Koreans to thank us. Thailand was the first Asian nation to send troops to Korea under the UN, and sent 11,700 of them.
>>64617472Last time in July there were unofficial reports of 1200+ cambotards killed from the Thai side simply from the number of corpses left to rot and the social media photos of rows and rows of caskets but the number is likely in the hundreds.
>>64615134>What's the point?Welcome to Mainland Southeast Asia, where it doesn't matter if you're weak, if you need to throw down, you throw down.
>>64615563>They really are just jeets with somehow even more criminality in their DNA.Jeets scam centers are mostly comprised of actual employees. Cambodian-Myanmar chink-owned scam centers are more akin to slavery compounds full of human trafficking and kidnapping victims, all of whom have a KPI to meet or face corporal punishment/torture.I'd say I am sympathetic towards the scammers (encountered/video chatted one before), but the other side of the KPI coin is, from what I learned from the cop who specializes in this type of scam, people who perform exceptionally well can also climb their rank to become a ring leader themselves so idk
I hope no phants are harmedThey deserve better
>>64618057Makes sense when you put it that way. I've thought occasionally when hearing about Thailand, why do they have this king? Why does the army occasionally intervene in politics? That's weird, makes me uncomfy, idgi. But if you translate it into terms like: SEA Asia is kind of like the Battletech universe without the mechs. Thailand might not be great, but it's not terrible compared to their neighbors.
>>64618343>why do they have this king? Why does the army occasionally intervene in politics? Because, monarchy is historical and natural, and constitutional/semi-constitutional monarchy is a breddy gud system? And because almost none of the SEA countries have high enough average IQ for stable, functional democracy, with rule of law and all that jazz (with the exceptions being Singapore and Vietnam, and the latter isn't one due to historical reasons)?Now, normally, a monarch would add an extra layer of accountability and insurance for your democratic political system and be a source of stability (like in those Western Euro/Nordic constitutional/semi-constitutional monarchies), but if your country's avg IQ is <100 and your monarch is in the same level of IQ as the rest of the populace... Still, Thailand is decently functional if you compare it to its neighbors.
>>64618343>>64618377Thailand continues to lag far behind Malaysia in development.
>>64610238Total fucking shitt he famas is a god compared to that crap ugly gimmicks fuck pizzrael
>>64610238Fun fact pizztaeli false flags started this shit read Victor ostreoveaky the ussanis cog land kill the kikes
>>64613766Favors suck Thai uses m16 variants and m4s
>>64613929Jews need to be killed you need to be removed you fagggklots are serious gaytheists and alsatanic dweeb and stupid non humans..hitler snd mussolini the good guys
>>64615248You are a nigger muh iq you have invented nasa atpmci enrgy hosx and etc are not high thats masonic freemaosnix jewosh you are stupid and retarded you aew not smart you need to be banned from th internet you are not smadt bernie madoff
I think it's trying to communicate.
>low-IQ turdie seething with conspiratard ESL nonsense
>>64617472The thais are wrecking them hard. Their F16s do most of the damage and gripens are also doing some damage. They have AEW capabilty from their old Argus which are outdated but better than what their enemies have so they have an early warning and tracking capability they don't have so that's how they've been able to keep air superiority. I think the most hilarious part of their deal with sweden was because their kings were good friends so thailand gave sweden a couple of elephants and got awacs and fighter jets in return.
I hope the Thais bomb whichever scamcasino these khmonkeys are posting from next
>Cambodia starting shit with their neighbors>proceeds to get their own shit kicked inWhat is their problem?
>>64618515See: >>64615518
>>64617087It's thirdie mentality, the same with ziggerstan:I punch you to see what you do =>1) you do nothing and try to negotiate peace? you're clearly weak, I proceed to punch you more and demand more. You are my bitch now, cyka2) you punch me right the fuck back. Ok, I'll be going somewhere else then. Why are you so mean. This is persecution. Also I won and I was justified against your agression.The only peace and cooperation you can have with thirdies is one enforced by superior firepower.
>>64618516Thanks. I am now 100% on Thailand's side and will encourage Total Scam-khmer Death.
>>64618057Austronesians aren't fighters, they're semen who sailed away from southern Chyna, to Formosa, to the Philippines, Indonesia and as far as Madagascar to the west and Samoa to the east
>>64610925Cambodia doing any drone runs on Thai tourist areas will guarantee Thai ladyboy dicking until they're inside out and puking.
>>64615021This is somewhat true, during the 1980s, the Vietnamese were pretty worn out, especially in Cambodia because they struggled to end Khmer Rouge and the entire war from against Khmer Rouge to the entire Cambodia with occasionally border clash with Thailand. The Vietnamese ended this by installed Hun Sen (funny how his background was from the Khmer Rouge as well) before they withdraw from Cambodia. Hun Sen, did a decent job keeping his country together but sadly it only lasts for a brief moment before the 1997 Cambodian coup d'état which Hun Sen orchestrated to overthrown the FUNCINPEC faction led by Norodom Ranariddh which the Khmer voted in. After this, Hun Sen left the people with a pretty sour taste in their mouth so what did he do? He literally put Cambodia into one party rule and literally run Cambodia into the ground while blaming anyone but himself, first he blamed the Vietnamese for helping the Khmer Rouge, then he blame on the royal family despite they barely taken any seats. Vietnam doesn't care about Hun Sen since all he did was beating around the bushes while scamming the Vietnamese (which the Vietnamese government doesn't care). But still he keep his agreement is that he will not do anything against the Vietnamese despite running the campaign against them. But eventually, he knew that he is going to die. Hence he put his son, Hun Manlet in place while hyping his son up but he still keeping the Prime Minister title. Unfortunately, him and his son popularity are all time low while Cambodia's economy is totally depended on the Chinese scam call center and casino and Hun Sen. Later on, they discovered that there were allegedly gold in Preah Vihear and we all know how its end
>Implying khmonkeys have any drone production capacity/any high-tech manufacturing capacity at all, or that their chink masters would give them any (given that the chinks have done zilch so far to stop TKD)>Implying khmonkeys are even anywhere close to early-2022 Eastern Euros in terms of drone warfare competency>Implying that the thais won't do the same in retaliation, but with more and better drones, or that they can't defend themselves against such attack in the first place.
>>64618465>khmer has to suck malay dick because his own shithole is too shitholeykek
>>64618591Meanwhile in reality Thai drones can't stop dicking cambos
>>64615518I am convinced this is part of a grant strategic effort by the US to hamstring as many Chinese proxies as possible in advance of the coming invasion of Taiwan without tying up US resources directly. Israel and the US wiped out meaningful proxies in the Middle East, a carrier group is playing fuckfuck games with potential oil supplier Venezuela, the US is pushing Europe to step up against Russia, and now Thailand is taking its gloves off against Cambodia, who has echoed Chinese maritime claims. Am I a schizo, or is there a massive pruning of proxies at play here to avoid the obvious Chinese gambit of pulling the US in too many directions to adequately respond to an invasion of Taiwan?
>>64618465Can't even pretend to shill for the malayschizo correctly.
>>64618787Not really, cambos didn't do themselves any favors by signing a trade and minerals deal with Trump that had clauses for excluding cooperation/commercial ties with China. For Beijing, that was a real wake-up call on just how Cambodia operates. Basically, the khmers have a habit of thinking in terms that almost defy conventional wisdom, a lot of it having to do with them still telling themselves they're this great imperial power that got robbed of their birthright by external forces (such as Thais). So everything they do is more or less geared towards recapturing that greatness by any means necessary. China doesn't matter to them, neither does America. To the cambos, they're all just stepping stones, a means to an end for restoring the Khmer Empire. The Khmer Rouge was the previous incarnation of that attempt and we all know how they went.Bottom line, they can't really be reasoned with in the traditional sense. It's sounds loopy but it's true, it's ingrained in their culture and sense of identity. Thais have tried to work with them, you only have to look at their recent history with Laos, Vietnam, Malaysia, and even Myanmar/Burma to see that Thais tend to get along with everyone despite all the bloodshed in ancient times. Everyone except the fucking cambos, because they literally never accepted their current borders as their "real" borders and they get fucking PISSED that everyone else around them is doing better than them.The khmers will start shit with Vietnam one decade, then Thailand the next, work with China one day, recommend Trump for the peace prize while promising to stab China in the back the next, run scam centers up and down their country because deception has also been hardwired into how they think they need to operate - etc ad nauseum. All while telling themselves their time is coming, that greatness, the revival of the Khmer Empire, is just around the corner.
All those very best piss plans, the greatests ever, falling apart are cool and all, but what about the most entertaining one : Pakistan vs. India?
Worth noticing that something is going on with Laos and the DPRK. They have always gotten along but lately they have been rushing to upgrade their relations, it is almost embarrassing how eager Laos is to be Pyongyang's buddy these days. They probably want a non Chinese arms source, given their current equipment and size the DPRK could probably upgrade their Army pretty quickly.
>>64618922Interesting, so why don't they start shit with Laos then? Since it's (probably?) the weakest of their three neighbors.
>>64619153See my previous post, Laos seems to be worried about that and are doing something about it. An important thing to note is Thailand and the DPRK have more or less decent relations but there is a government/Royal disconnect there: The Thai Royals like the Norks more than the regular government does but the DPRK can act as mediators between them, Cambodia as well. Yes, there are places where the Norks can be peace brokers as weird as that sounds.
>>64618787Thailand is also a Chinese proxy
>>64610635Time for the WNBA Peace Proce then!
>>64618787You're desperately looking for a semblence of order in chaos I would say
>>64619202Thailand has dreams of being a regional power and they are surrounded by people who are so weak and backwards it might be semi-plausible.
>>64610336An army of fembois, is it something more spiteful and dangerous on creation?
>>64619460>oh nooo, I got made a POW, aw shucks>haha, oh noo, don't put me in a pretty little prisoner dress and feminize me with experimental medical treatment, that's against the Geneva Conventions tee hee
>>64616018lmao
>>64619275Some of Trump's gang (Rubio, Melania, Kellog, etc) know what they are doing, the problem is the other part who are either grifters, petty or complete morons, add to that Trump himself already showing clear signs of senility and you quickly figure out why this year has been such a schizo show, and of course Trump will never let down a chance to say "it was all part of MY plan" whenever things go well.
>>64619495Rubio is just trying to keep his head down, who knows what Meliana is saying and Kellog is throwing in the towel and walked away, there's no one to steady the ship at least looking in from the outside
>>64619502I mean yeah, you can just see in some of Trump's team expressions they are wondering what to do next at every single front, 2026 is going to be a very interesting year, EU is jumping the ship and taking the war in their own hands, LATAM, Africa and SEA are trying to diversify their markets and military supplies as much as possible and MENA has concluded everything outside Bibi's kingdom is game.
>>64619495Kellog said enough was enough and is retiring early next year. Meanwhile, Rubio is playing "Fix the Prime-Retard and Co. mistakes" at an exorbiantly exhausting rate. And I think Trump stopped listening to Melania when it came to her attempting to tard wrangle him on Ukraine.
Thai bros, remember what you're fighting for.
>>64619693Would. No homo.
>>64619476Is this the power of the thai pipeline?
>>64619546I guess it will depend on how much he can keep a working relationship with Vance, Disc Jockey strategy seems to be just yes-man his way into political survival while letting Trump act like a fool, after if he croaks he can just say he was following orders and maybe pretend it wasn't him suggesting bad ideas, Rubio meanwhile is trying to put down all the fires to portray himself as "the guy who can keep the boat afloat". Sadly for both Trump has been building the sort of strategic situation for US which may cost them decades of geopolitical, work and please, do notic he has a lot of points, like the need for EU to defend themselves against thr Vatnigger Onion, expelling undesirables and wacking narcos, jihadist and whatnot, but where smarter people would have been more subtle and generate far less vitriol Trump has been leading his policies like he was still in the WWE... hold on, didn't Commodus do something similar with the gladiator games at the roman colliseum? Oh shit...
>>64610227How much did the late Air Chief Marshal Fufu's reforms contribute to the current success of the Thai Air Force?
>>64615518What a retarded and completely bullshit story are you a thai landyboy?The situation is really straightforward. Cambodia and Thailand have a longstanding border dispute. Thailand is militarily stronger and wants to take back territory that Cambodia regained more than a century ago after the Franco-Thai War.Both countries brought the issue to the International Court of Justice twice, and on both occasions the ICJ ruled that the disputed land belongs to Cambodia. Thailand has ignored these rulings and has continued looking for excuses to take the territory. This is easier now that Thailand has a modern military, while Cambodia is much poorer and smaller and has not had an air force since the 2000s. Cambodia also reduced its large Cold War era military to save money.The current Thai prime minister came to power after deposong his predecessor, who had been friendly toward Cambodia. His government recently mishandled the major floods last month and is expected to do poorly in the upcoming elections. Because of this, he seems to be trying to regain votes by appearing tough and strong. Nationalism is a reliable tool for that, especially when it involves taking land from a weaker neighbor.Cambodia has very limited ability to strike back. Its only possible option would be asymmetric tactics such as sabotage, but this is highly unlikely because Cambodia knows it has little chance of success. Adding to Thailand’s sense of urgency, the United States recently lifted restrictions on arms sales to Cambodia, which means Cambodia might soon be able to purchase modern equipment such as F-16s.P.s. thailand never raided any scam center they are less than a mile into cambodian territory so they never even had the capability to reach them and the cambodian government has shut down dozens of illegal crypto and scams componds this year alone by itself. Anyway the big money is in dodgy online gambling sites for chinese not in scams.
>>64621073Shut up Hun Sen
>>64621073>ICJ ruled that the disputed land belongs to Cambodia.No that was about Preah Vihear temple and its immediate area.>Cambodia has very limited ability to strike back. Its only possible option would be asymmetric tactics such as sabotageLike keep planting landmines in Thai patrol routes to maim Thai soldiers?
>>64621073>the cambodian government has shut down dozens of illegal crypto and scams componds this year alone by itself.The ones that aren't paying them a cut.
>>646211331) which is literally what Thailand has been trying to take plus some.2) do you realize that cambodians arent some mission impossible types that can sneak behind your heavily entrenched and drone covered enemy lines just to plant a few mines and slip back undetected? Cambodia barely has a functional military.When the thai army says "cambodia planted mines just over the border in thailand" they are referring to the cambodian border territories that Thailand CLAIMS as their own. So whenever they push into the land they illegally claim as thai territory and they step on a mine the official government response is "cambodians placed a mine in thai territory" but they mean "we stepped on a mine in the cambodian territory we claim to be thai and are actively pushing into". Like if tomorrow a thief claims your legally owned house belongs to them and when they break in your house and dog bites them they go to the media that you are the evil doer for having your dog bite them in THEIR home. Completely turning the story around. Also for fucks sake even a child knows landmines are not an offensive weapon if the thais stopped pushing into cambodia land that has been mined like crazy for 50 years. The whole landmine bitching is literally like the home invader complaining that the barbed wire on your fence is not legal and you must remove it.Nobody is ever "attacking" with land mines in particular those that you need to spend time to put underground when they could use the various russian and chinese versions of the claymore instead, which would actually make some sense if cambodia somehow had the capabilites to get across thai frontlines undetected as they are quick to set up and can take out a whole squad. The whiole landmine story is nothing but a barely credible justification for the thai invasion and to take the land. Thailand would be the first country ever to be "attacked" by landmines.
>>64618574Malay tacticians are descendants of highly advanced noble predators who enslaved many European men and women in the old days while Chinese generals are only from a historically meek and servile race. That's why they could not foresee such simple strategies which the Malaysians came up with in response to Chinese arms buildup in the South China Sea.
>>64615488>Ladyboy jokes asideI never joke about ladyboys
>>64621307If you bothered to actually look at how long the border is it absolutely is possible for several landmines to be planted, because that's what has been happening.Absolutely insane to be defending cambotards if you aren't one.
>>64621282Its a bit more complicated than that.Cambodia government has no love for scam centers nor crypto pump and bumpers. They can only afford to pay off the local cops for a while but they eventually get shut down and than try to restart somewhere else some months later. The big guys are too expensive for them to bribe. The big money is not in scams is in online gambling directed towards the massive chinese market, most of those casinos have bad odds and can make millions. The chinese gambling triads also help chinese people get money out of china going around the capital export restrictions that Xi implemented. Those guys are the ones that can get protection. Big money there. Scam centers are all over between Burma, cambodia, thailand, india, bangladesh and laos and the keep moving around every time they are shut down often hopping country to country depending how much enforcement goes on at that moment. They dont make enough to buy state protection besides bribing some local rebels in burma or local cops in other places.
>>64619290Thailand is only strong in conparisom to Cambodia, Laos and Myanmar. It is far weaker than Malaysia or even Vietnam
>>64619693if trannies over here put in even a quarter of the effort thai ladyboys do I think most people would be much more open to them. at least I certainly would, its hard to take a trannies as a group seriously when 85% of them have a physiognomy that would make neanderthals look like cucks while raging frantically about being called sir like a roided out linebacker wearing a dress. not to mention the fact that over there they are honest about what they are rather than trying to force people to believe they are actual women.
>>64621406Malayschizo? Is that you?
>>64621380Only some parts are hot. Just think how many times would they have to do it to get lucky just to get someone... dozens? Also they never got caught, never. The same guys that lack bullet proof vests and use flip flops are suddendly amazing at operarions behind enemy lines and moreso they ONLY use this magical skill to put a couple of mines made in the 1970s here and there not to sabotage bridges or other key targets.It is so obvious it is just a justificaation for the attacks.The very obvious and self evident answer is thail soldier either A) stepped on an old mine due to increase border patrols with more people that are less experienced moving around heavily mined areas B) they pushed into cambodian territory (which they claim as thai) and stepped on a defensive mine.Thailand is doing zigger tier mental gymanstics to justify stealing some land simple as.Just like russia the thais have to come up with crazy conspiracy theories to justify taking a smaller and weaker neighbor land.Also did you ask yourself why would that make any sense for the cambodians do it? Of all things what is the advantage to risking sending whole squads on super high risk missions just to blow up someones foot and get F16 strikes in return? The whole landmine justification from thai side of the story is plain excuses to take land nothing else to it. Also even now cambodia has again been asking the US and ASEAN to mediate while Thailand is rejecting any US or mediator intervention and they literally say they need to do a "prehemptive" offensive against cambodia "because they are dangerous" they cant even come up with a good casus belli anymore just "we are gonna take the land and trump peace deals can fuck off" And proceed to invade another village or two.
>>64621453Trannies being obnoxious is a strictly American thing I notice.
>>64621480Right, ignore the incursions and indiscriminate bombings by the cambotards and die on this landmine hill you can't even defend.
>>64621480I wonder if you genuinely believe this or if you're just getting paid. All anyone has to do is look at recent history to see who's been developing their economy and getting along with their neighbors and who's been chimping out trying to revive and dead empire that will never come back because its people can't stop literally self-annihilating.
>>64621489no surprise there, not to mention that a good chunk of American trannies look like fucking goblins until you get to the top 2%.
>>64621073>The current Thai prime minister came to power after deposong his predecessor, who had been friendly toward Cambodia.>leaves out it was his own dictator that leaked their phone call where she was being friendly to make her look weak so she would be removed, even going so far as telling the Thai government she's a traitorKhmerniggers are such pieces of shit.
>>64621307The mines were already confirmed by third parties (including Reuters) as being newly laid and also are the Russian type that cambos are known for procuring and which Thailand doesn't have and has never had in its inventory.
>>64621480Why are you calling Thais ziggers? Who are you trying to fool here?
>>64621406Vietnam is a special case; Thailand probably overmatches them in all but one area but that one is almost insurmountable: Vietnam has a potential 12-1 infantry advantage since they need to ward off China. If for whatever reason Vietnam intervened on behalf of Cambodia Thailand would have a major problem, they would drown them in bodies. Also people forget that Vietnam has a massive amount of armor although actually getting it to Thailand would be a big issue.
>>64621465Probably a Khmernigger trying to find a country to beat the Thais because his own country is a shithole. Some posts here didn't match the Malayschizo's usual MO.
>>64610859you love to see great war tactics make a comeback
>>64618827Give him time, eventually he will start seething about Australia and Singapore
>>64621737>>64618827>>64618465>Googles>As of 2025, Malaysia is the only country in Southeast Asia that does not maintain diplomatic relations with North KoreaKnowing nothing about this person or their history i can confidently say they deserve to step on a lego, fall down a flight of stairs covered in D4s and land on their Ipod breaking it.
>>64621499You have a big country trying to steal a smaller and weaker country legally owned land.Even a retard can figure it out.They can do it now because cambodia has made its army smaller and smaller to recover from the suffering from being ruled by a communist maniac during the cold. By 1995 cambodia finally got rid of the last pocket of khmer rouge guerrilas but it had nothing but a massive army with millions of veterans with ptsd.The country was so destroyed it had nothing.So over the years cambodia military got smaller as the funds were needed to rebuild everything fromt the electric grid to roads, bridges and so on.So at that point thailand that lost both cases to the ICJ could not take the land in the white house you had presidents that still made a big point about upkeeping international law and cambodia still had a decent army.Thailand while cambidia got rid of its air force a decade ago built up its military greatly as the army took power in thaild with several coups effecrively ruling the country and deposing any elected PM that they dont agree with.Now the time is right for taking the cambodian land becuase they now have a huge advantage in military capabilities, the current US president isnt very concerned with upholding international laws and rulings and just few months ago the US removed the khmer rouge era weapons sales embargo against cambodia so if thailad waits too long there is a high likelhood that cambodia gets also F16 and they would be a newer block than what thailand operates as trump wants cambodia to buy more us products.So thailand now has the perfect window of opportunity as well as they just deposed a PM that was friend with cambodia with a military backed nationalistic guy that needs to quickly gain popularity before the upcoming elections. So winning an easy war is the choice of action.
>Muh smaller country dindu nuffin
>>64621549The PMN2 mines have not been in production for 30 years. They were not procured by cambodia but by vietnam and heavily used during the time cambodia was occupied by vietnam and fighting the khmer rouge. So cambodia cant mine its own border while getting invaded? Its literally passive defense. But it is like the russians complaining about ukraine building defensive lines before the invasion calling it provocations.I guess we tell the ukrainians too to remove landmines as the russians might sue them for stepping on them while invading.
>leddit spacing
>>64621825The landmines are specifically against the Ottawa treaty and cambos are planting them in Thai territory. If you're killing and injuring the other side, don't be surprised when they fight back.
>>64621832Thailand refers as Thai territory the cambodian land they are trying to conquer i explained that already are you retarded or just thai?It is just like when russia says Ukraine bombed russia sovreing territory when they hit a target in the dombass.
>>64621798>You have a big country trying to steal a smaller and weaker country legally owned land.???Cambodia's the one trying to landgrab though. The ICJ awarded them a temple based on French maps that were intentionally drawn to give Cambodia more territory than was agreed with Thailand (then Siam) because Cambodia was a French colony so of course they'll give them more land. And EVEN THEN, Thailand said "yeah ok fine" but since the temple is only accessible through Thailand (Cambodians literally have to scale up a cliff to access it without going through Thai territory), they ended up wanting even more land that wasn't allowed by the ICJ. So they've been trying to steal Thai territory for that access (as well as other temple areas) ever since.
>>64621849What are you even talking about? How is it Cambodian land? This is why you're getting bombed, you're such pieces of shit liars.
>>64621859Cambodia never tried to do a land grab. Cambodia won also the second ICJ case for the land around the temple and cambodia already controlled that land.Zero incentives for cambodia to do anything but thailand has all the incentives to use force as they want that land.Regarding the french colonial era thailand took many provinces from cambodia and cambodia accepted the french offer to become a protectorate in exchage of them getting their land back. The thais were deep into the invasion of cambodia all the way to the agkor wat temples.The french steamrolled them and did not even take all the lost land back as the british complained because the wated thailand as a buffer between the british Raj ( including burma) and french indochina to avoid possible conflicts.The ICJ already said that the land including the land behind the temple is cambodian land. There is no legal discussion.That is why the thai side needs to come up with excuses like the landmines to even have a fig leaf to cover what is obviously a war of conquest.
>>64621886>Zero incentives for cambodia to do anything Except for all evidence to the contrary.
>>64621832>>64621867>>64621894>>64621897Don't even bother. It's either an scamboriginal running its ESL posts thru LLMs to make them intelligible or a Western perma-contrarian arguing in favour of barbarian invaders just for the sake of being contrarian (the Western zigger type, both left and right)
>>64621925Looks like it. I'm so done with scambos.
>>64610513Pregnant anne frank poster, I've been meaning to ask, but are you the same pregnant anne frank from the Kinoplex? It's been bugging me for like a month that I see you here and on there and I just wanted to know.
>>64621952Maybe...
>>64621779>Norktard’s never been in a Malaysianschizo /k/ threadNgmi NKTAnon, have you even been in a IndoAnon seethes at Australia thread? It’s like that but most of the seethe is aimed at Singapore with some seethe at Australia, high chance that they are not actually Malaysian but it’s a false flag since they refuse to engage in conversations involving Israel and their F-35’s
>>64614407Peak Vietcong. They were fighting China on their northern border while pulling this off.
>>64618325King Terry will protect them
>>64614349you never wondered why the Southern Thai insurgents + Moro insurgents had Malaysian military gear on them?hehehe
This shit looks like AI but it's real. Cambodian oil depot on fire.
>>64614316They're former Malay-Siam cities of Langkasuka which preceded by the fall of Sriwijaya/Sriwichai. Siam =/= Dai/Tai (invaders from China).Siam are just Malay Buddhist and Malays are just apostate Buddhist (when they become Muslim) but in modern times some prefer to call themselves Thai, as the definition of Malays has become firm that Malays must be Muslim. The complex chronicles of the Ligor causes some royal family separated into two sides; one that decided to be Muslim and the other one that stays as Buddhist, so when the Buddhist partition serve the Ayutthaya King in Krung Thep, they declare that it's part of Thai. On the other side, they said it's part of the Malay side of Sultanate Kedah/Patani. Skirmishes here and there where family just separated even further because your greatest enemy are the one that used to sleep in your bed, it become what it is now. Nationalist from both sides will always argue about the land extend claims but in the end, the banished feudal monarchs descendants will always have their true story.
>>64614316Malaysia might use this distraction as of means to invade southern thaialnd considering all of there are malay not thai
>>64622446Very few people appreciate that Vietnam has a huge military:>1800+ tanks>4500+ armored vehicles>12000+ AA guns>3000+ artillery>800 MLRS>500k troops, 5 million trained reserve
>>64622977Is this during the Vietnam war or what they currently have right now?A lot of people discredit me when I claim that Vietnam is the only reliable military region. It's not because of the amount of weapons they have, but the fact that they have all their bases covered in terms of equipment. They're the only military in the region that has a ballistic defense along with a SHORAD system for example. Everyone else forgot the memo and is just buying up random stuff with considering the philosophy behind the weapon system and what they need.The thing that's weak about them is their Air Force. They have no AWACS, no airborne EW, and no SIGINT aircraft. All these components are instead ground based.
>>64623057That's right now, they also have alot of War era stuff in reserve like 500 ZSU-57-2s. Interesting note; all their captured US stuff is working again, the US quietly let them buy spares and upgrades.>The thing that's weak about them is their Air Force. They have no AWACS, no airborne EW, and no SIGINT aircraft.True, but the only real air threat they face is the PRC and last time they mauled them badly. Anyone else nearby they will just bludgeon to death, possibly (looking at you Thailand) by going through one or more intervening nations.
>>64623057>They're the only military in the region that has a ballistic defense along with a SHORAD systemLiterally every single SEA country except the poor shitholes (Laos, Cambodia, Philippines) has this, retard
>>64622919I'm not writing it off, anything is possible.>>64623057I see. Thais use Swedish AWACS.
>>64623098Correction, even the fucking Philippines has SPYDER lmao, same shit if not better than Vietnam
>>64623057?? Thailand just procured the BARAK MX system from Israel.https://defencesecurityasia.com/en/thailand-bolsters-air-defence-barak-mx-asean-tensions/
>>64623057>A lot of people discredit me when I claim that Vietnam is the only reliable military regionThat's because you're a fucking retard. Vietnam's military is chink tier
>>64623114>>64623118Vietnam's strength was always having a huge ground force, as i said no one besides China wants to fight them and that didn't work out so well. Vietnam goes out of it's way to keep stuff working and upgraded, they just had all their 37mm/57mm towed guns refurbished and upgrades, they modernized their KS-19s which is kinda neat. They even got Israel to modernize the ZU-23-2s. >>64623119A Malay tail typed this post.
>>64623148Shut the fuck up you Slavshit worshipper
>>64623179Sorry, by 'Malay' i should have specified 'Chinese landlord living in Malaysia' instead. I didn't mean to denigrate your tenants .
>>64623095> last time they mauled them badlyVietnam can definitely not take chances with China. It HAS to, and I mean that, HAS to be ready for anything China is planning. Superpowers make decisions, and anyone within their sphere of influence has to respond>>64623098>>"ballistic defense" along with a SHORADAre you retarded?>>64623114The Spyder that the Philippines has is anti tactical ballistic, it's not a full BMD. Meaning that it can't defend ICBM>>64623118Barak MX isn't a ballistic missile defense.>>64623119> Vietnam's military is chink tierMy nigga every single military in SEA is chink tier it below. The difference is that Vietnam covers nearly every single military system, even if they're shitty and old. That's the major reason that makes Vietnam's military competent because it's about the system the military has and not the how good a single equipment is.It's pretty clear you thirdies have no clue what you're talking about considering that you're tripping up on basic info that can be searched on Google. > inb4 you're Vietnamese I'm not nigga. I've been checking up on China-SEA situation and looking at the military capabilities of all the SEA countries. I came to the realization that China could sweep the combined force of SEA in a days work, and it's not even close
>>64623234>no Barak MX is not a ballistic missile itself but an integrated air and missile defense systemIt's right there in your screenshot you retard. Are you illiterate?
>>64623234Based ESLjeet with no reading comprehension
>>64623234
>>64623249> right there in your screenshotAnd what does the rest of the screenshot say? It said it had to be completed by other systems such as the Barak ER, which Thailand is not ordering.Even your screenshot (>>64623259) proves my point by referring to it as "network centric". Meaning that, it alone isn't BMD and needs other systems along side it to be BMD. Which Thailand is not ordering.>>64623256> no reading comprehensionConfession through projection
>>64614268same shitty propaganda tactics using older irrelevant footage like when it's India vs Pakistan its annoying
>>64623295You literally said it's not a missile defense system, which is exactly what it is.
>>64623295The ER is a missile, not a missile defense system. They're what arm the MX, not a separate system. Please tell me you're baiting, no one is this fucking stupid.
How do I join the cambodian army to capture a thai ladyboy to be my girlfriend?
>>64616894>south korea was recently trying to repatriate some of its citizens after some particularly bad torture video came outWhat the fuck
>>64623312No, it's not a full on BMD. The Barak MX cab over cover short ranged BMD. BMD is an umbrella term and there are different variants of ballistic missiles that scales up in terms of range.>>64623322> The ER is a missileAnd it's not one of the missile types that Thailand is buying. That's why if you read about it from the news sources, it'll state that Thailand is acquiring a "medium-range" AA system.Thailand isn't preparing for the scenario that there'll be an advanced, modern ICBM heading towards them, which is a risky situation as seen from the war. Thailand got caught with its pants down and is ordering an emergency purchase of a military equipment because they didn't 'cover their bases'. Imagine if China were to invade Thailand for whatever reason, Thailand would almost immediately collapse militarily. It's because modern warfare isn't about the quality of the unit, but if you have the system to defend or attack.
>>64623110> Thais use Swedish AWACS.Yes, they do and I would consider the Thailand Air Force to be one of the most powerful in the region due to this. They are of course eclipsed by the Singaporean Air Force, but nonetheless, very competent.It's funny seeing nations brag about acquiring a large quantity of fighter jets without support aircraft's when all they're really do is giving the opponent free kills. Is like building a wall, but you placed all your time and effort into a single slab of the wall. The enemy can just walk around and make your entire defensive strategy insecure. It's honestly better to have shitty walls, instead of one strong slab of wall
>>64623394>And it's not one of the missile types that Thailand is buyingSo they're buying a missile defense system with no missiles? Show me where it says they're not buying any missiles for the system, I'll wait.
>>64623394Are you implying that if China nuked Vietnam that the Vietnamese would be able to stop an ICBM?
>>64623394>>64623440The ER Isn't the only kind of interceptor missile the Barak MX uses, there's also MR and LR, both of which Thailand is acquiring.
>>64623413>eclipsedThat's a strong word, maybe when Singapore receives its F-35s but right now I wouldn't say the difference is that great.
>>64623413>>64623458truth of the matter is that both Thailand and Singapore will be fighting together if push comes to shove, and the only two SEA nations that will be able to with full interoperability and politically. 7 of Thailand's f-16 are hand me downs from Singapore as payment for access to airbases in Thailand to train.
>>64623413>Is like building a wall, but you placed all your time and effort into a single slab of the wall. The enemy can just walk around....Damn, did you really have to roast the French that hard?
>>64610950Does anyone remember how he bloated and bragged about bringing worst and best korea to the bargaining table, pretending that now their 70 yo tensions were water under the bridge? Then he left, and fat kim just pretended nothing happened. 4 years later, he sent nork battalions to aid russia in ukraine. What a clown
>>64623114>even the fucking Philippines has SPYDER lmaoDoes not mean much when they only have like 4 launchers lmao
>>64623530>bloated I meant gloated, i'm phoneposting on the toilet
>>64610227The atheists are soon going to learn why they shouldn't be in foxholes.
>>64623643>atheistsi'm curious, is that supposed to be directed at the Thai or the Khmer?
>>64623458Its a big gap even without the F-35s. Sing has 40 F-15Es and 60 F-16s while Thailand has 12 Gripens and 47 F-16s. But the Thais have a massive power gap ahead of everyone else in the region for the simple reason of pilot quality and coherent logistics approaching NATO standards while everyone else runs a mix of Western aircraft and slavshit (Indonesia and Malaysia), pure slavshit like Vietnam and Myanmar, or have no modern fighters at all (Flips and the others)>>64623234>>64623394Vietnam doesn't have anything that can intercept ICBMs either (the S-300PMU1 can only intercept tactical ballistic missiles as well), while there are plenty of comparable systems in the region like Barak, NSAMS and SAMP/T, so I'm not sure why you're claiming they're the only ones with a "full on" BMD system (by your own definition)
>>64623534And Vietnam only has five
>>64623234>My nigga every single military in SEA is chink tier it below. Wrong again turdie-kun, the Western-patterned ones like Thailand, Malaysia and even the corrupt as fuck Flips and Indonesians are still light years ahead of the mainland ex-commie shitholes like Vietnam, Myanmar and Cambodia (as the current hostilities and the Myanmar civil war next door are demonstrating). The Viets are probably even behind the Chinks since the latter have actually been modernizing to fight actual first world countries for the last two decades while the Viets (outside the small cadre of special forces with the latest Israeli equipment) still rely primarily on militia mobik hordes and a regular PAVN that resembles the PLA of the 1990s. I can see why Norkfaggot loves them so much, they're like the KPA but worse
>>64623692Contrary to what people say, Malaysia bought russian and american aircraft out of necessity, not simply because of shit and giggles. For years malaysia had been denied access to more modern aircraft because the US is playing favorites with singapore, philippines and thailand. At one point they just said "fuck this" and went to the russian instead. America putting both Indonesia and Pakistan under military sanction really spooked Malaysian decisionmaker hence why they're willing to buy russian made equipment which is generally cheaper and russia is willing to accept almost anything as payment. To be clear, Malaysia did this not because he is a genius but rather out of spite when the US Congress blocked Malaysia's request to buy the Hornet, & bought the Mig29 instead. >Malaysia wanted more F/A-18>Malaysia looking for second hand USN/USMC F/A-18>Uncle Sam said no. Instead offered up F/A-18F>Malaysia tempted to buy F/A-18F but didn't want to surrender their existing F/A-18D as part of buyback option>Deal went dead>Suddenly US came back and "hinted" that they may export F-35 for Malaysia if they could permanently stationed their F-15/F-16 in Malaysia because reasons.>Malaysia said "take that F-35 of yours and shove it up your ass" subtlyTil now American suffering loses because Malaysian opened the market gate for Russian and European arms sales on SE Asia and destroying the American arms sales monopoly. Firstly announced and buying Russian Sukhoi and showing the sign the move from American sphere towards Russian. American military industrial complex will be scared shitless and lobbying the Congress to be allowed to sell some American fighters (Choices are F/A-18D or F variant) with cheaper price to attract the government back to American/NATO sphere of influence.
>>64623692Vietnam's airforce might be old but they have 1000+ fighters, including about 200 F-5s that the US has started helping them modernize. The 650 fishbeds are being turned into drone apparently>250 Cessna Dragonflys. >>64623745Vietnam is hybrid slavshit/Cold war US with a decent amount of modern stuff that they are buying at a very fast rate. It is worth noting that the modern western systems they are buying are all logistics and technical stuff, they are well aware of their deficiencies. Their ground forces are the last thing they need to worry about modernizing simply because they are huge enough to bog down China and no one else is even close to being a ground threat.
>>64623440> So they're buying a missile defense system with no missiles?Man, I don't know if you're thirdie Thai but there's no way the reading comprehension over there is that bad.The Barak MX AA system comprises of SR, MR, LR, and ER. Thailand stated that they're purchasing a "medium-range" AA system, which means they're not buying the ER or even LR missiles. There purchase is going be largely focused on MR missiles.>>64623444> Are you implying that if China nuked Vietnam that the Vietnamese would be able to stop an ICBM?I'm implying that China would have to use an advanced and ranged ballistic missile, as anything below that has a chance to be intercepted. Which is the entire point of covering your bases since China's one of the only nation in the region that can use ballistic missiles against Vietnam has their offensive is greater than Vietnam's BMD.>>64623454Thailand's purchasing a "medium-range" AA system. Where does LR and ER missile fit into that?>>64623521The Maginot line actually worked pretty and it forced the Germans through Belgium to get through France.It served its purpose of having the Germans avoid it, but the French fumbled it because they thought the Ardennes Forest was impossible to get through. So, you can say it failed because of the French being too prideful.>>64623692> Vietnam doesn't have anything that can intercept ICBMsNo, but the S-300PMU1 it can intercept up to IRBM since it has the ability to intercept ballistic missile in its terminal phase. The only othered system in the region that can do that is the SAMP/T. The variant that Thailand is purchasing is geared towards medium-range, which the ER missile likely isn't included as the ER intercepts are basically worlds apart compared to the other missiles.any opponent that plans to attack Vietnam with BM has to acquire ICBM for a reliable hit.> they're the only ones with a "full on" BMD systemNice try, but I didn't claim that.
>>64623745>>64623745Nigga you're retarded. It's pretty clear you haven't been keeping up SEA military developments. All these nations are advancing their military in their own ways, but to say that Vietnam is light years behind shows that you're not even up to date.Vietnam over here is working on their 600 km cruise missile and they recently revealed the 300 km VCM variant at the parades. Hell, they even have their own cruise missile production factory at this point. They're literally the only ones in the region that's independently producing the ASM. So, no they're not light years behind and are in fact leading in certain areas.> SingaporeThey're co-producing them with Israel.
>>64623794> decent amount of modern stuff that they are buying at a very fast rate.Vietnam's main arms suppliers are Russia and Israel, I don't think I need to explain what's going on with them. But Vietnam hasn't been buying anything from them especially Israel.I heard of a leak of Vietnam order around 40 Su-35, EW pods, and couple of other support systems through a loophole. The Vietnamese dudes are saying that the number is inaccurate because Vietnam usually buys in batches of 12 aircraft as that's the amount of units in a squadron for them.Other than that, Vietnam is severely behind in terms of foreign arms order compared to the rest of it neighbors> Indonesia buying everything from everywhere such as the:> KF-21> KAAN> J-10> Rafale> F-15EX (Indonesians saying they're not ordering them tho)> A400M> Chinese UAV> That Italian frigate > Arrowhead-140> Old Chinese frigate (one of the first ones the Chinese built)> etcPhilippines:> FA-50> KF-21 (considering)> Lots of Korean frigates > Korean submarines (considering)> Patrol boats from French> Sabrah> Guarani 6x6> Brahmos> Spyder> Typhon (didn't really buy, US just stationed it there) > etcThailand:> Barak MX> Chinese submarines> Gripens > Towed-missiles> etcMalaysia:> F/A 18 from Kuwait> Turkish warship> 105 mm howitzer (forgot where and who they brought from)Laos:> Some armored vehicles from RussiaCambodia:> 2 free warships from ChinaLaos and Cambodia received more foreign military equipment than Vietnam. Vietnam over here hasn't had anything delivered or potentially even brought
>>64623992Right now Vietnam's biggest supplier is the USA and it's allies, we are giving them a C-130 fleet not to mention maintenance, parts and upgrades for over 500 US made combat aircraft and hundreds of other non combat planes. Since it is politically sensitive we mostly do it through intermediaries like Israel and the Czechs but that is changing quickly, the C-130s are a direct sale.Get over the Cold War, Vietnam is a US ally now.
>>64623992What are you trying to say here? Half the countries on this list don't even have half the airforce that Vietnam has.
>>64624091> Vietnam's biggest supplier is the USA and it's allies Mmmmmm I guess that's true in a sense, but Vietnam is only mostly purchasing support equipment from western sources. Major offensive or defensive assets like warships and aircraft for example will likely be brought from Russia, or even developed on its own.The reason why is because Vietnam's entire military logistics has been dependent on Russian arms. This aspects that range from training protocols to MROs. So unless Vietnam wants to increase its defense spending to maintain its military, it'll still have to shop from Russia for its major systems. Assets such as cargo transport can be switch and not cause much issue, but switching a warship from one dealer to the other is too big of a change to integrate without a lot of work arounds.It's more likely that Vietnam will seek domestic or co-production in major assets, while reaching to foreign partners for help on certain projects.
>>64623696This is chechen-level tiktoking
>>64611029>Boots on the ground marching to Phnom Penh would probably be impossibleHow? Cambodians don't even have boots, ironically enough. What could they realistically do to prevent that?
>>64624129Vietnam's in a somewhat vulnerable, but radical state as of currently.Their major assets are running on a limited amount of spare parts. So, the Vietnamese military has to innovate. Whether that's through domestic production or by switching defense dealers, and either one of these situations will cost Vietnam a ton of money in the short term.It's true that Vietnam's Air Force is quite capable, but it lacks support. It doesn't have:> Air tankers> AWACS> EW aircraft > SIGINT> Air superiority (not that needed)All their aircraft are the Su-30MK2 with no thrust vectoring for ease of maintenance. It has a Doppler radar which is a massive disadvantage and is radar cross section is not that good. The thing going for the Su-30MK2 is its incredible range and heavy payload capacity considering its a heavy multi-role fighter.If Vietnam wants to be more competent in its Air Force, it'll like have to seek foreign dealers as developing an aircraft is momentous difficult, but developing specialized aircraft such as a SIGINT or AWACS is out of the question.A route they could go down is to make drop those roles into specialized UAVs where they'll basically act as aircraft-lite.Still though, it's still an extremely difficult task to design and build these technologies. It could take years to decades to get there
>>64623862>MR missiles.So missiles. In a missile defense system. Which you claimed Barak MX isn't. Checkmate, I'll accept your apology now.
>>64624183>either one of these situations will cost Vietnam a ton of money in the short term.Good thing that their GDP growth has consistently been above 7% for the last decade and they are in the middle of industrialization. They're in the best spot to make commitments.
>>64624189Missile defense system does not equal BMD system.The MR and ER missiles after fundamental different. The ER has two stages for BMD, while the MR doesn't and can only intercept at medium ranges.Thailand stated that they were acquiring the Barak MX as a medium-range AA defense system, and ER is not apart of medium-range defense
>>64624174>How?America
>>64624234> They're in the best spot to make commitments.True, but leaders are basically required to invest in infrastructure and such to keep the GDP growth consistent. They'll only be able to allocate a tiny bit to the military
>>64624246Show use your specific source for which missiles Thailand is and is not buying for their Barak systems you ESL phoneposting AI-powered jeet fuck.
>>64624148We just gave them a third Hamilton Cutter class this year, alot of the stuff we are just giving to them. The list for their Navy equipment on wiki is incomplete, my personal brand of autism noticed they didn't list their midget subs. Not only do they have Yonos they can make them.Hilariously they use them as training aggressors with DPRK advisers in exercises with their four Pohang-class corvettes which have RoK advisors. The Pohang class of course being famous for having one of them sunk by a Yono. Imagine how awkward the after action reviews are. >>64624251The US is committed to supporting them, we are giving them alot of stuff especially upgrades and parts for older equipment. We also get many of our allies to give them free stuff especially navy equipment.
>>64624251watch China stir up more shit in the Spratleys and support for military spending skyrocket.
>>64618922Sounds like Belka
>>64624277> Show use> ESLLOLLLLL
>>64624246>missile defense does not equal missile defenseThis is annoying, just admit you were wrong.
>>64624282> third Hamilton Cutter class this yearYes, I've heard about this. But the ships are being used as patrol vessels rather which makes sense given that they're too old to do much of anything.> The Pohang class of course being famous for having one of them sunk by a Yono.I haven't really heard of this, but I know that the Vietnamese managed to reverse engineer the NK midget submarine.> The US is committed to supporting them, we are giving them alot of stuff especially upgrades and parts for older equipment.I've heard about this development, but didn't it was this serious. I thought it was more of support in spirit.>>64624291Yeah, that definitely could be the case. I know that the Vietnam are building up their Spratly island, but China isn't really messing with them for some reason
>>64624674Cheonan was a Pohang.>the Vietnamese managed to reverse engineer the NK midget submarine.The Norks just showed them how, apparently Yono production is a standard export item, besides Vietnam Iran and even Cuba have done it. Basically they give you one, show you how to use it then put together a kit based on your specific needs. After you make that they look over your industry and show you how to do it yourself, what you need to get or buy and suddenly you can make the worlds most basic 'modern' sub. It is a neat little sales model, if suddenly Suriname or Somaliland wants domestic sub production they can get it. It also ensures repeat sales since from all indications the torpedoes (and/or missiles in Irans case) require far more technical ability than the subs themselves. If i was in charge of some nowhere coastal third world nation and they showed up and offered a sub and the means to make them for $25 million or access to resources or whatever i'd do it. >I TOLD YOU FUCKERS TO STOP FISHING ON THE GAMBIA WITHOUT A LICENSE NOW YOU PAY YOU CAPE VERDEAN BITCHES!
>>64624654No, you're just retarded and don't know why you're talking about. Military equipment are extremely specialized to what they do and the purpose they serve. It's the reason why there are different types of aircraft's and warships. It's because each other them are specialized in carrying out their intended design.Thinking > muh BMD equals any other type of missile defense is hilariously why the Thailand military had to place an emergency order for the Barak MX. Because they realized there's more to missile defense than just a unit, it's a system
>>64624818That's explains a lot and it's no wonder why the Vietnamese brought the midget submarines to jump start their submarine production.So the NKs are giving out tech transfer to anyone that wants it
>>64624833>So the NKs are giving out tech transfer to anyone that wants itTo allies yes, to anyone who will pay otherwise. They probably just gave it to Vietnam, they are friends after all.It isn't even much of a tech transfer, everything about them uses off the shelf materials and components. They are basically just showing you how to put everything together and make a water tight pressure weld. Given a couple million dollars and the plans your average medium sized US metal fabrication shop could probably make one. On a technical level the torpedoes would be much harder to make than the sub.
>>64623923>muh VCM-01There it is. You're obviously that same Viet shill who for years has hyped the shitty Neptune knockoff from the 60s as a metric for some kind of quantum capability. Fuck off you dogeating discount chink, at least the malayshizo is entertaining
>>64623794>Vietnam's airforce might be old but they have 1000+ fighters, including about 200 F-5s that the US has started helping them modernize.lmao not even close you fucking retard, the US wouldn't be trying to sell them F-16s if this were the case. The F-5s were out of service long ago. Its not as simple as mothballing M113s, turns out maintaining aircraft without spares is hard, and Vietnam is clearly no Iran in this regard. You Vietshills and that faggot Norktard make me sick. It's clear that sucking Russian balls in this day and age is untenable, and China is too disliked, so you slavshit worshipping fags have to latch on to any semi-competent looking combloc gook dictatorship just to get your rocks off. But just like any typical commie, you lie, and lie, and lie
>>64625166You have zero reading comprehension do you? The very next sentence clearly stated their intention of turning 650 of the Migs into drones since they are useless otherwise. The vast majority of the F-5s are for parts to serve as trainers until they settle on which new trainer they want. Fuck off tourist.
>>64625166>But just like any typical commie, you lie, and lie, and liePeople need to understand that Viets are an authoritarian East Asian culture, and unlike the more open ones like Japan, South Korea and Taiwan, more closely resembles China in both political culture and social/economic development Vietnam is at the stage of rapid growth approximately where China was a decade ago, with almost identical issues cropping up - they even have their own mini-Xi heading the VCP right now having a corruption purge.Note the autistic rules lawyering, goalpost shifting and use of implessive esoteric metrics messaged to artificially put Vietnam ahead of everyone else (e.g. we have hypersonics and you don't) being employed by the Vietshills here, and you realize that this is the exact same playbook used by the chinkshills. Because that's what Vietnamese are despite a thousand years of resistance and cultural separation: knockoff bugmen
>>64625226Stop replying to yourself everyone knows exactly who you are, you shit up at least one thread every day. No one is interested in the ranting of a edgy racist teenager LARPing as a retarded baby boomer who doesn't know the cold war has been over for more than three decades.
>>64625214>>64625245And we see you for what you are, Nguyen
>>64625251>Malay shill is so new he doesn't know the thread reached the post limit and no one is reading it anymore
>>64625256Like I said earlier: I'd take the Malayschizo over any one of you tiresome autistic thin-skinned Vietshits. He's at least unintentionally hilarious, you're just a shittier version of implessiveposting
>>64625245 That is your new metoditchka, yes, which is why you’re desperately spamming it everywhere A problem though: you are a compulsive liar who intentionally joins threads in bad faith to manipulate and lie I expect better from you chinkshill, i’m docking your pay.
>>64625266>>64625260Go away Malaysia shills, you aren't even real Asians. It's why you keep trying to steal islands and atolls for your Yankee masters, you even use a fake US flag instead of a real one.
>>64624825You said there's no missile defense system, then you admitted it's there but it doesn't have missiles, then you said there are missiles but not the kind you like. Just admit you're wrong.
>>64625166China has more than 500 J-20.
>>64625110> You're obviously that same Viet shillYou Thailand thirdies are actually retarded if you think I'm a Viet shill or Vietnamese for bringing up the VCM. > as a metric for some kind of quantum capabilityBecause it basically is fag. The fact that a shitty ass third world country like Vietnam had the capabilities to break into the aerospace industry is already something, but the fact that a product that only a handful of countries have been able to replicate is a rarity in itself.>>64625680> You said there's no missile defense systemNo, you said that I claimed that> admitted it's there but it doesn't have missilesThailand's only buying SR and MR missiles. Never said they weren't buying missiles. Again, you're just putting words into my mouth> Just admit you're wrong.No, just admit you're stupid can't understand the nuance without employing reductionism to the extreme and generalization to everything I say
>>64626627Look at your first post. You literally said it wasn't a missile defense system. You FAILED.
>>64623923Isn't Vietnam the country that's producing a knockoff BMP-1 and hailed it as a great achievement?
>>64621952If you can't help your curiosity, the answer is yes
>>64625964LMAO you pull these numbers out your ass? They got maximum 350 as it stands.