>Attacking an enemy who has a superior capacity for procuring resources, manpower, and advanced weaponry, while you're largely stuck with the army you start with and any outdated legacy equipment lying aroundHow the hell was Russia planning on beating Ukraine again? Pic unrelated.
>>64610248I'm going to use this poorly made foreign bait thread to say that Ukraine actually taught me a lot about the Civil War. It's agonizing reading about month and months of nothing significant happening in between these daring and decisive actions. I can understand much better why Lincoln was always in such hot water and why so many Union attacks were so haphazard, rushed, or pushed through despite better judgement. I also gained a new understanding of just how difficult it is to win a total war. Armies can be beaten swiftly and cleanly in the ideal Prussian style, but defeating an entire nation in an existential fight to death is another matter.
>>64610248They thought the Ukraine of 2022 was the same one as 2012 which rolled over like a bitch when they took Crimea. To be fair, they were at least spot on about the fact the US wouldn't have the stomach to honor its nuke disarmament agreement after getting booted from Afghanistan.
>>64610319>US wouldn't have the stomach to honor its nuke disarmament agreementThe US fully honored its agreementIt was Russia that didn't honor theirs
>>64610248gaynigger
>>64610284There was a German observer at the time who pointed out that both sides didn't understand the finer points of Napoleonic Warfare. You see both the Union and Confederacy would get into really bloody pitch battles without properly utilizing artillery which is why the death toll in the Civil War was horrendous coumpared with many European wars at the time.
>>64610248They made the classic blunder of assuming they could take the capital fast forcing capitulation, they never considered Ukraine might be able to mount an effective defence.Thanks for face saving eastern culture Putin is now stuck and can't leave Ukraine without being overthrown for looking weak.
>>64610331The US is supposed to guarantee Ukrainian territorial integrity, and after NOT providing Ukraine the tools to win on purpose under the Biden admin they are now not helping at all whilst actively pressuring Ukraine to violate it's own territorial integrity under Trump.
>>64616704>The US is supposed to guarantee Ukrainian territorial integrityThat is not what it said. The Budapest Memorandum said that the US would not invade Ukraine. It was a non-aggression pact, not a defensive alliance.
>>64610248Confederate and Union armies were roughly on the same tech tree for most of the war>b-but muh repeating riflesWere only introduced in the Union Army late in the war and in very limited numbers (only a handful of regiments and brigades were equipped with them).Pic related, one of the Union Army's premiere formations, the Irish Brigade, which was stuck using M1842 smoothbore muskets until late 1863
>>64615556Huh that perfectly mirrors the current reliance on trenches and drones.Fascinating how similar events always tend to be.
>>64610248>advanced weaponry
>>64620211> tech treeplease kill yourself now
>>64615556I still don't understand how the Austro-Prussian War of 1866 only lasted a month.
>>64610248yeah except in this scenario, the confederacy is being supported by europe
>>64610248OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
>zigger defaults to reposting the same tired stuff whenever he gets btfowhats next, the sniper footage in iraq?
>>64615556Neither side had heavy cavalry either, so a routed army would just… successfully run away and regroup a lot of the time.
>>64623719What has them so assmad today?
>>64623742They're always assmad. Why should today be any different?
>>64610248The Russian strategy completely worked in 2014 Crimea. It worked so quickly that procurement was no relevant option. Everyone woke up to a blonde cutie on Russia Today announcing that the conquered land voted for Russia and nobody did shit besides anemic sanctions.Then Putin years later goes back to attack a far more prepared Ukraine thinking 'this will be easy'. It doesn't work because Ukraine has been preparing the entire time but he's an an old man from the time when all non-nato sphere countries were his and wants to talk to you about Yaroslav of Kiev
>>64615556Supposedly that was in part due to the uneven and more forested nature of the American terrain compared to Europe, which limited sightlines. Plus the major European powers had very detailed maps and pre-selected battlefields (Waterloo had been scouted and chosen before before Napoleon had returned to France).
>>64623989Where's Jeb! and Saddam?
>>64624192Jeb! is preparing the counterattack alongside Steiner.
>>64620211>M1842The advantage is you can use buck and ball.
>>64624192As Putin had Dmitry Medvedev, JEB! has Putin. After the next election everyone will know everything.
>>64624797Only an advantage in War of Rights/Mount and Blade
>>64623665Rapid pre-planned mobilisation into a decisive setpiece battle. After Königgrätz the Austrians were just so utterly screwed that once it set in they decided the best move was to just throw the towel and aim for a negotiated peace while they still had the chance to walk away relatively unscathed.
>>64620211Fun fact, the marines on board John Paul Jones ships during his raids on England were not continental marines, but soldiers taken from the Irish Brigade of France. The fact he was able to keep them from going full murder boner on the raids is Amazing lmao
>>64623989I love these silly maps
>>64616704>agreements not ratified by congressNot a binding treaty, thats all just pillow talk, baby. Dont understand American civics? Skill issue.
>>64610319>the same one as 2012 which rolled over like a bitch when they took CrimeaCrimea war more of a FSB operation than a military one.They also tried to take Mariupol and the Donbas in general in 2014 and got their shit pushed in by militias.This has been memoryholed of course because it was really embarassing to Russia, but maybe they should have spend some time thinking about what went wrong.
>>64624081>uneven and more forested nature of the American terrain compared to EuropeBeg your pardon?
>>64624081>European powers had very detailed mapsThey literally had topographical corps that mapped the terrain around them as needed. Thats the kind of thing the Americans hadn't understood, that you need shit like that.
>>64631287>This has been memoryholedI still see tankies whine about those football hooligans getting cornered and burned.
>>64616704>after NOT providing Ukraine the tools to win on purpose under the Biden adminbro Biden stalled the entire Russian advance by giving Ukraine 50 rocket trucks in the spring of 2022 and they got tons of shit since. The Russians have only started advancing since Trump got in and put Zelensky in a stranglehold. Biden was great for Ukraine and fucked Russia hard.
>>64620211>Irish stuck using M1842 >Implying it wasn't because they were just being used as cannon fodderFrankly they should have just given them pikes. Even an outdated musket was more valuable than a dozen Irish during that period.
>>64631302Everything of importance is on the continuous green strip
>>64631687Kys retard
>>64610248In case you hadn't noticed Russia is winning. They are playing the long game and the numbers have shifted greatly in their favor
>has a superior capacity for procuring resources, manpower, and advanced weaponry>ukraineukraine has fewer resources and a smaller population than russia. Russia's MIC is also better than Ukraine's and makes better stuff than what Ukraine gets from its allies.
>>64620211This is genus, why don't we do this for all the New England Patriots fans? Give them all UCP camo and M16A2s that hardly run then send them on suicide missions. Cheap and easy solution for dealing with the chaff.>>64631790How? By moving a goal post and calling it a win? They haven't secured pokrovsk yet and the AFU is making gains right now in kupyansk. They are no better now than at the start of January 2025.
>>64631829>a shitty wood-stocked AK-74 manufactured in 1977 with a rusted out bore and no optics is better than a brand new CZ Bren 2 with maybe 400 rounds of non-corrosive ammo through it in training.This is peak kalashbro retardation here. And before you say anything about "Ukrainians use AK-74s" and "Muh AK-12" I'd like to point out that at this stage of the war it is actually mostly Russians you see in combat footage who carry AK-74s. In contrast combat units in Ukraine use mostly UAR-15s, CZ Bren 2s, HK416s, M4A1s, and a few Sig 516s. All of which are newer than most of the shit Russia is still issuing.
>>64631324Only 50?
>>64631889>at this stage of the war it is actually mostly Russians you see in combat footage who carry AK-74s. In contrast combat units in Ukraine use mostly UAR-15s, CZ Bren 2s, HK416s, M4A1s, and a few Sig 516s. All of which are newer than most of the shit Russia is still issuing.Do you have reliable statistics backing up this statement, or are you just extrapolating from a handful of GoPro videos you watched?Anyway, improvements in ARs are basically irrelevant. The big boys are drones (Ukraine has no answer to geran spam), planes (Ukraine's F-16s would need AMRAAMs to challenge Russian jets but they haven't gotten any) and missiles (Ukraine only recently got an iskander analogue (Sapsan) though probably in very limited quantities, and they still don't have an answer to Russian cruise missile spam)Meanwhile, assault rifles have been functionally identical ever since 5.56mm and 5.45mm came out
>>64632422More important is that Russia has 3x as many people than Ukraine and a lot more functioning industry and resource extraction
>>64632437>Russia>FunctioningOkay Ivan
>>64632437>IndustryRussia literally produces nothing. >PopulationThey have less than half the population of the US, at best, and those numbers are hilariously fake anyway. Bonus points that two-thirds of those numbers are boomer pensioners.Anyway, it sure is a good thing that Ukraine is killing the ziggers at ratios as high as 14:1.
>>64632599>the only country in the world to produce 100% of military equipment in-house "produces literally nothing">Russia population numbers are le fake (but 14:1 is totally real and not made up)
>>64620211Iron Brigade was better
>>64632967>the only country in the world to produce 100% of military equipment in-houseActually I think China does too (if you ignore the handful of Sukhois that aren't Chinese-built). The point still stands though.The USA is close to being in the club but we are missing a few crucial elements (e.g. we don't make our own TNT anymore)
>>64632967>the only country in the world to produce 100% of military equipment in-houseIran, North Korea, and China beg to differ
