is there a real world equivalent of combat drugs similar to tarkov injectors other than pervitin?
nope. amphetamines are the only real stimpack we have
>>64624542rip-its and modafinil are all you need
Does one become a more formidable adversary under the influence of stimulants? Specifically wondering about coke and meth, and if there is any stimulant purpose-designed to keep soldiers awake.
>>64624645There's all sorts of shit to keep you awake starting with coffee. And there's plenty of videos of guys getting mag dumped by cops and still going until they bleed out, that's usually meth/pcp. Idk about coke.
>>64624645you ignore shock more but your blood pressure doesn't care how fearless you feel, once you go below a certain pressure you simply turn off.
>>64624658>And there's plenty of videos of guys getting mag dumped by copsyeah because the cops are missing all their shots.
>>64624671ugly truthnuke.
>>64624542Captagon is the closest to a practical combat drug. It's basically a slow-release meth lite. It became famous due to ISIS and the Syria conflicts. But like plates, it doesn't stop being sprayed with bullets.
>>64624671Yeah that does happen a lot. But there's definitely a few where these wacked out niggers just tank a whole mag like it's nothing.
Only five combat enhancing drugs are verified by the army. Two are nicotine and caffeine. Everything under the sun was tested during the armys mad scientist era in the 1950's, and I dont know the names of the other three.
>>64624671I've seen people on Captagon (and other drugs most likely) do some wild shit after being hit by rifle rounds to the upper torso and limbs. It hit them hard enough to pause to consider 'something happened' but I have no doubt quite a few of them probably wouldn't have noticed pistol rounds unless they got hit in the head.
>>64624645I fought 3 niggers simultaneously and won, while high on coke.
>>64624645Yes, and no. Read up on Pervitan and its uses in ww2 and youll get all the answers. Its useful short term but has horrible side effects.
>>64624542Former recreational enjoyer of "trucker pills" here from back in the day when you could still legally get the good shit. You FEEL like you have the focus and strength to do anything, but past a very quickly reached point you're just an amped up maniac and absolutely useless. Trying to do just regular PT while pilled to the gills starts off feeling like you can do a thousand push-ups and ends curled up in a ball, dry-heaving, covered in a cold sweat, unable to hear anything but the blood pumping through your ears while your heart bangs away like the bass drum pedal of a thrash metal band. And the mental focus? An illusion. I used to take pills to keep awake driving hours across country, racing back to post from a weekend pass, routinely forcing myself to slow back down to sub-felony speeds and telling myself the monsters darting across the highway weren't real, and realizing the screams were actually just me.Derive the combat effectiveness of such a state on your own.
>>64624542Not really. Some of the chems are real, like Perfotoran was a real soviet blood replacer, and Norepinephrine is a real drug for raising blood pressure; but they dont really do what they're depicted as doing; like L1 would make you tired as fuck from hypertension instead of boosting your strength. While I'm not aware of a specific equivalent to Zagustin, liquid coagulants are absolutely a thing. That drug that makes you invisible to thermals would cause immediate hypothermia and a quick death. But in terms of shit that makes you stronger and faster in combat, a la MULE and SJ6, thats just anabolic steroids but unlike ingame they take weeks to have an effect, you cant just shoot up in the bathroom and then immediately carry your body weight.
>>64624542Old Readers Digest Magazine got a lot of shit after posting the true first hand story of an anonymous F-111B Captain that pasted Kadaghfi's camp. He said when the adrenaline of the strike wore off he went that was no way he could fly all the way back to England. Then he drank the "cocktail" the Flight Surgeon had given him perked right up and cruised on back home like it wasn't shit.
>>64625224If true, congrats. Seriously.I feel like I could do the same thing desu. I might be overestimating my abilities by several magnitudes, but if you got some coke up my nose, I’d totally thug it out with a pack of niggers, and my steel resolve and fearlessness might actually make a difference. it’s been over a decade since I did any, but man did it make me feel bulletproof. I wonder if coke wouldn’t also be useful in combat to keep the fear of death from paralyzing you.
>>64625532>Perfotoran was a real soviet blood replacer,it is still real and is sold in the US as vidaphor. yes, i just googled this, but it's cool enough that i want to post about it>basically perflourocarbons and saline>moves through the lungs, dissolves oxygen>serves as synthetic plasma>administered 36,000+ times and has "comparatively mild and manageable" side effects to, idk, bleeding the fuck outit's obviously not an auto-injector thing though. it's stored frozen and administered intravenously, over about a half hour depending on how much you need.i just think it's super fuckin cool that we have a synthetic product that works somewhere between blood and plasma. i mean, obviously it doesn't work the same as blood, but it's way better bulk than just saline.
>>64624542If it does exist it's kept under wraps and only the spookiest of spooks have access to it. The US version would've probably been whatever MK programs did get completely covered up.
>>64625725It sounds like the expensive, dangerous counterpart to basic Ringer's lactate/Tyrode's solution
>>64624645No I think if anything you become erratic and prone to mistakes.
>>64624645no, anything that makes you that "high" has a large adverse effect on your cognitive ability. You might 'fight good' depending on the person but any semblance of detail about a plan is going to fly out the windowit might work as an emergency "oh my god I'm going to die anyway" stimulant pen that just makes you extremely alert and less prone to falling unconscious from bloodloss/shock
